WEBVTT - The Truth About Love Island (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely dated my fair share of douchebags. My time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get tingling.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm spiraling. Oh my God, tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything flame emojis cleft, right and center.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt loves a bit of God.

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<v Speaker 2>And I need to text you back. I really need.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jealous. I'm the most jealous person ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Relationships like a fart. If you have to force it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably shiit Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>City dot Com for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be a bloody single and alone with ten cats

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie.

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<v Speaker 3>On today's episode of Where's Your Head Out, we are

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<v Speaker 3>jumping straight back into our Love Island tea spill.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I know, let's not fuck spiders. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>straight back into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all

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<v Speaker 3>things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,

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<v Speaker 2>intimate details, advice, and much more. All right, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we've already spilt a lot of tea, a lot of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've asked you guys to ask us your top

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<v Speaker 2>questions about Love Island and our experience. So do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump in let's do it all right. So

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<v Speaker 2>the first one is do you have access to the

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<v Speaker 2>outside world at all?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>So you literally get off of the plane because we

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<v Speaker 3>filmed in Fiji, and they take away your phone, your passport.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally become a prisoner you do.

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<v Speaker 2>So. I remember literally coming off the plane and the

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<v Speaker 2>producer was standing there and she's like passport and wallet

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<v Speaker 2>and phone, and I was just like, it's like, can

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<v Speaker 2>I least say good to my mum? And she was

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, sure, and I was just like see your mom,

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<v Speaker 2>see on the other side, and then just handed it over.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being in the car on the way to

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel where we stayed out. I was like real stress,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was like, shit, this is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's all becoming very real. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So you basically away from your phone for seven weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crazy in itself because people wantn't get off

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<v Speaker 3>their phone these days seven minutes seven minutes, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>seven weeks. And when you actually get your phone back,

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<v Speaker 3>the feeling is so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels like a different world.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember picking up my phone, like turning it back

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<v Speaker 2>on and like I was looking at like their notifications

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<v Speaker 2>because it was seven weeks of it, and I remember shaking,

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<v Speaker 2>like my hand was shaking. I was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not ready for this, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And like everything had happened, people had seen everything that

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<v Speaker 2>had happened in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, and you don't know what they've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know do you remember that? Like the four of us

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<v Speaker 2>we all just I remember just taking a phone charge

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<v Speaker 2>and I sat in like the restaurant of the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just sat on my phone. I was like

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<v Speaker 2>for two or three hours just scrolling replying back to people.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know where any of you guys were.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just engulfed in it because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck has happened? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember calling my parents and the reception was really bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, I just want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to people normally and calling my best friends and then

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<v Speaker 3>being like knowing who Josh was and like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't told you exactly? And I'm in the group

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<v Speaker 2>chat with the boys. They're like talking about like cart

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that, and I was like, what the fuck? You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? I was like, this is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like talking about her coming to like our parties

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<v Speaker 2>in that, and I was just like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>It almost feels like an invasion of privacy because you

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<v Speaker 3>go on the show and you know it's being filmed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're being filmed the whole time, and in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of your mind to some level, know that

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<v Speaker 3>people are watching. But when you get your phone back

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<v Speaker 3>and they've actually been watching, You're like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I first got my phone back and

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<v Speaker 3>someone had sent me a clip and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>clip of Josh and I in the shower and how

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<v Speaker 3>do I describe this? They had cut me off just

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<v Speaker 3>before the so we basically like are naked in the

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<v Speaker 3>shower together. And I was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 3>am humiliated. And it had like millions of years, so

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked. I was like, what have I done that,

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<v Speaker 3>I've ruined my life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that was wild. And then like the

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<v Speaker 2>little clips I was seeing and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>even don't even remember saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the it's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>It was next question that you guys want to know,

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<v Speaker 3>do you agree with how they made you look on

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke about it before, Yeah, I do, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, they pick one bit of

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<v Speaker 2>your personality. They could have picked anything. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>was the funny guy I should have been from the start,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way it is, they made me the emotional guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the emotional model. Well with the sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at the start they wanted me to be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of like the player ahead and the player,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I think they realized, quick spark that that's

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<v Speaker 2>not my personality. Yeah, I'm not actually like the player,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I come across like that, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Would someone dis I agree, I do it tastefully at least,

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<v Speaker 3>what is being a player tastefully that Like, No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm not. I just yeah, I'm not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they realized that quick smart, and they're like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to like.

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<v Speaker 3>Adapts adapt said, yeah, I mean, look, I definitely think

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<v Speaker 3>my personality was shown. I definitely was seen to be

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<v Speaker 3>doing a lot of mothering of cars, yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely in my personality, and very nurturing my relationship with Josh,

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<v Speaker 3>like we were obsessed with each other, so that was

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<v Speaker 3>seen a lot. The one thing they didn't show is

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<v Speaker 3>if Josh and I had a bit of a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that that was that like when we, like

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<v Speaker 2>you guys were hating each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other, we were having a massive fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thinking the right time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I remember we were in the fight and

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<v Speaker 3>Josh got on the bike and they asked a question

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<v Speaker 3>about me and he said something cute and I smiled

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<v Speaker 3>like just like a little bit, And that was the

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<v Speaker 3>only part that they showed.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole time I was like, I was like

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad mood. I was like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>None of the fights of Josh and I was showing

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<v Speaker 3>because they wanted us to look like this amazing couple

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<v Speaker 3>who were so in love and would never fight.

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<v Speaker 1>But that just wasn't the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>So another question is is love and scripted? Do the

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<v Speaker 2>producers tell you what to do?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not scripted.

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<v Speaker 2>None of it is scripted, none of it. We're out

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<v Speaker 2>there doing our own thing. But the one thing they

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<v Speaker 2>tell you to do would be where to sit to

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<v Speaker 2>have certain conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>You and you're constantly probed to talk about your emotions

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<v Speaker 3>with people, even if it's been like ten minutes since

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<v Speaker 3>you said that you like them. They're like, go have

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<v Speaker 3>a chat and discuss how you feel, which is so

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<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable and would never happen in real life, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That early into a relationships totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one thing that people don't really get a

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<v Speaker 3>clear sense of is we obviously go into the beach

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<v Speaker 3>hut to talk with the producers, which comes is edited

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<v Speaker 3>into the footage that they have from the day or

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<v Speaker 3>the week or whatever. And I think you get a

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<v Speaker 3>clear sense of what the producers want you to say.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that in a way could be classified

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<v Speaker 3>as being somewhat manipulated, because they might say to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that they never would straight up asking what

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<v Speaker 2>to say. They would have a roundabout sort of way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet they would have an angle, and you could tell

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<v Speaker 3>what their angle was, and until you said it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting out of that beacht. You're not coming

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<v Speaker 2>to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>So they'd be like, so, Matt, you like Isabelle and Jordan.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually like Jordan more. But they would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>but we think that you and Isabelle are so cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Isabelle. And then in your head you'd

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<v Speaker 3>know that they wanted you to be with Isabelle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, which brings us to the next question, did

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<v Speaker 2>the producers matchmake couples? And I think that I've told you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the only time that I was

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<v Speaker 2>steered in one direction. Yeah, and they never told me

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<v Speaker 2>who to pick, but the way they were talking, they

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<v Speaker 2>steered me to Isabelle away from Jordan, which naturally I

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<v Speaker 2>would have picked Jordan. Yeah, but I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was steered in that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've told me that you regret that, right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do regret not picking Jordan. Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>picked her. She was definitely my flavor. Yeah. So next

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<v Speaker 2>question we were asked is do any of the couples

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<v Speaker 2>have sex on the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think a lot more than you'd probably think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I first arrived into the Love Island

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<v Speaker 3>villa and Matt's bed was situated very close to mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm comfortably close, and there was a lot of noise

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<v Speaker 3>coming from your bed. I was like, wow, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>on camera, like it's the series.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I got off what I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any fants on and you were like fuck, Matt, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, disgusting. Yeah, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the couples did. But did it even show any of

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So they definitely don't show anyone having sex obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's not born, but it's implied. It's definitely implied,

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<v Speaker 3>And some people got a worse edit than others. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I felt so sorry for Margarita, Like people were getting

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<v Speaker 3>up to serious mischief in the bedroom and they made

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<v Speaker 3>it out like she was going crazy with Blake in

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<v Speaker 3>the bed. So I was like, when I watched it back,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I feel bad for Like, if I

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<v Speaker 3>was targeted like that after seeing what everyone else was

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<v Speaker 3>getting up to, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I went into the show being like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way I'm going to be sleeping with anyone

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<v Speaker 3>on there, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to be having sex on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even saying that out loud feels so wild. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're sleeping in bed with someone who you really

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<v Speaker 3>like every single night.

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<v Speaker 2>You're only human.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be surprised what happens under the cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye gonna crack it or get angry about that. So

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<v Speaker 2>another question is are there cameras in the Love Island toilets? Yes, sirious,

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<v Speaker 2>there's cameras everywhere. You literally cannot get off camera the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. Yeah. I remember I was having a little

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<v Speaker 2>silk one time and I was laying on the back

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<v Speaker 2>and I literally watched the camera follow me get off,

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<v Speaker 2>like sit somewhere else that I've tried to walk to

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<v Speaker 2>another place, and it literally was following year and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, fuck off. I was like, seriously with

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<v Speaker 2>some time to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, every single person in there, literally

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<v Speaker 3>within forty eight hours has had a mild to large

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<v Speaker 3>mental breakdown, mainly on the large side, Like I think

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours in I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was bawling my eyes out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it just wasn't shown because it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>foreign environment. You literally have a breakdown because it's so overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the feeling of being in there and being on

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<v Speaker 3>camera twenty four to seven is, without a doubt, the

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<v Speaker 3>most overwhelmed I've ever felt in my life. And I

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<v Speaker 3>remember one so I was also having a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a breakdown and I just felt claustrophobic, like I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like the walls were closing in on me and I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get out, and I actually they could see me

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<v Speaker 3>freaking out and I started crying and they took me

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<v Speaker 3>out to the front of the villa just so I

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<v Speaker 3>could have a breath because I was like, honestly felt

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<v Speaker 3>like just an overwhelming I was basically heading towards having

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<v Speaker 3>a panic attack, and I think they could see that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they took me out the front to just

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<v Speaker 3>take a break breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in saying there's cameras everywhere and you're aways on camera,

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<v Speaker 2>you do forget though, Like I felt like I forgot

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<v Speaker 2>that I was on camera.

0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean for the first twenty four hours, I definitely

0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.680
<v Speaker 3>was watching the cameras and kind of figured out where

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<v Speaker 3>they were all places.

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<v Speaker 2>See, how could you not they were standing there, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they were everywhere, And I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to take in.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, after the twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four hours of your first being in their passes, totally forget,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's such a far distant memory that you're on

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<v Speaker 3>camera because.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of other concerns Other than.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of other concerns, like there's so much drama.

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<v Speaker 1>You're constantly on edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we used to always say the moment you felt

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<v Speaker 3>like oh my God, like I can actually relax, something

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<v Speaker 3>really bad would happen and they'd bring someone else in,

0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:27.520
<v Speaker 3>they'd bring in a bomb squad, Like it was constant stress.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think for seven whole weeks, I was in

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<v Speaker 3>a constant state of anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>The same I reckon I was as well. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to like everyone used to be like, yeah, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a challenge today. Woo, I'm so excited. And I used

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<v Speaker 2>to sit there like, fuck, what are they gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck with me today?

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, have I done?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the fuck are they going to

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<v Speaker 2>do to me today? So with other challenges, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as stressed as the ones when I was coupled with

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<v Speaker 2>Vanessa because I knew that they were going to try

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<v Speaker 2>a driver wedge between me and her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the final question we got was did anyone have

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<v Speaker 2>a breakdown?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think everyone had a breakdown at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely did documented that I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I actually because I came in with Phoebe

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember getting in there, and I think I

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<v Speaker 3>adapted to the situation a little bit better than she did.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember Phoebe just being like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that I'm on a TV show, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't expect it to be this full on, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being filmed constantly, and she was right like it was insane,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we would be in the shower number one. The

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<v Speaker 3>showers were very communal, like everyone in the whole villa

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<v Speaker 3>saw each other naked. There was no sort of privacy,

0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.520
<v Speaker 3>and you have to remember this is people you don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like trying to form relationships with these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Phoebe was just like I can't even shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I walked out to the shower and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like look at the cameras and they'd like swing

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<v Speaker 2>onto the shower and I'm like, fuck, just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of privacy wouldn't hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, couldn't go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing we were allowed to do is take

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<v Speaker 3>our mics off to actually go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a massive, massive camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember every time I walked in through the bathroom, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, guys, you don't want to hear this. And

0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like gotta be a big one, like strip

0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the micro right off and throw it on the counter. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it was just constant anxiety, and when you're in

0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.200
<v Speaker 3>a state of constant anxiety, breakdowns are inevitable. Yeah, like

0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.400
<v Speaker 3>everyone's going to break down. It's really difficult. And as

0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.400
<v Speaker 3>we touched on before, everyone's mental health issues really.

0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Got brought to the surface. So we're going to talk

0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.280
<v Speaker 1>about that next, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and let's discuss the mental health issues that come

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<v Speaker 2>with being on a reality TV show. Obviously, before we

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<v Speaker 2>go on, they do all the psychological testing. They have

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<v Speaker 2>a psychologist watching us the whole time we're on there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have access to him. But that doesn't take

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<v Speaker 2>away from the stuff that comes at being on that show.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I think they definitely, for their own

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<v Speaker 3>legal purposes, have to have a psychologist watching over everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, there was definitely a few times that

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<v Speaker 3>I would see people hit breaking point and the psychologists

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<v Speaker 3>never really came in to rescue anyone, but people were

0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of just like talked off alledge in the villa

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<v Speaker 3>because they didn't want anyone to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was having one of my first

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<v Speaker 2>big breakdown in the beach Hut and they offered him

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I said.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh, okay, So they did offer him.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought of it as a sign of like I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I don't, like, I'm not that bad,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like, I didn't want

0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.680
<v Speaker 2>it to be portrayed because if I thought in my head,

0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.680
<v Speaker 2>if it's that bad. Imagine how it's going to look,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? So I was trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>like myself, talk myself out of it, but obviously it

0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 2>got aired and I was pulling my eyes out.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's interesting because I didn't know that. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you were crying in the beach Hut and really upset,

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<v Speaker 3>normally only when everyone because literally you weren't the only person.

0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Every single person had those moments. But they've just aired

0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.560
<v Speaker 3>yours because they were going along with Matt Cryes all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, that type of vibe.

0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they aired mine, and they probably didn't air

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else's I don't think. Which was not about Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 2>That crying, if you want to know the hot goss,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not about Vanessa. I was missing someone on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside and I was crying about that. It was

0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.080
<v Speaker 2>bringing up old emotions from that. Wow, And then they

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<v Speaker 2>made it out like it was Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I was crying about my ex and they made it

0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.320
<v Speaker 2>out like it was Vanessa because it was bringing old

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<v Speaker 2>emotions to the search.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some serious tea. Just yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, look, and I think for anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>has never been on a reality TV show, which is

0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 3>most people, they run you on not a lot of sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I reckon, we would be getting three to five

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<v Speaker 3>hours of sleep at night mat max max. So there

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<v Speaker 3>was times when the sun was coming up and we

0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.520
<v Speaker 3>were only just going to bed.

0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.520
<v Speaker 2>So when we film those beach huts, when we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the camera, that's after a full day. So when

0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 2>we're in our going like our dress up close for

0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the night, that's we don't have any concept of time either.

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget that, but that was probably between three to

0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.080
<v Speaker 2>four am in the morning. That's why we look so

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<v Speaker 2>like tired and what we're saying is actually complete garbage

0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it.

0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So just to touch on that more, we don't

0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 3>have any clocks watches like obviously phones with time on it,

0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.440
<v Speaker 3>so we basically rely on their time schedule.

0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which they would change, I'm assuming to keep us guessing,

0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.680
<v Speaker 2>because I remember sometimes dinner would be when there was sun.

0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it'd be like felt like hours after the sun

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>had set. Yeah, it was wild.

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I mean, yeah, we were definitely overly emotional

0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.520
<v Speaker 3>because we were running on a lack of sleep. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember coming out of the villa and everyone had

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<v Speaker 3>a meeting with the psychologist, and he said to me,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be surprised if you sleep for like a week

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<v Speaker 3>or two weeks straight, because you've not actually been getting

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of sleep in there.

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.840
<v Speaker 1>And he related it somewhat.

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 3>To people who have gone away in the army and

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.480
<v Speaker 3>haven't slept for days on end, and then they'll come

0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.479
<v Speaker 3>home and do a massive sleep And basically that's what

0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.520
<v Speaker 3>he told me. So even psychologically, I was just like, what,

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.840
<v Speaker 3>like that sounds bizarre, And he was right. I came

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 3>back from Fiji and I slept for like a week

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<v Speaker 3>and a half straight.

0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I was exhausted.

0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I was actually the opposite. So I was still going

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.960
<v Speaker 2>off that sleeping pattern. I was going to sleep at

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<v Speaker 2>all hours of the morning, right, but I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of things, like a lot of events

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>in that and I would like come back and I

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<v Speaker 2>like wouldn't fall asleep till god knows what time, and

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd wake up randomly in the morning, like an early time.

0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So it took me a long time to get back

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<v Speaker 2>into my normal sleeping pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably still running off a lot of adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something that I wanted to touch on which I've

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<v Speaker 3>never really spoken is coming off of Love Island and

0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.880
<v Speaker 3>my mental state because I was not in a good place.

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I was very dissociated.

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>What does associated me, So.

0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Being dissociated is when you feel very detached from your

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.600
<v Speaker 3>environment and the people around you or your body. So

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.680
<v Speaker 3>when I actually came off of Love Island, I felt

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.919
<v Speaker 3>like I was watching myself from above. I felt so

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.959
<v Speaker 3>distant from myself, and I think it was because number one,

0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I came off of the show and I was like,

0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.680
<v Speaker 3>it kind of blew my mind that people had watched

0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.120
<v Speaker 3>the past seven weeks of my life and were really

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.720
<v Speaker 3>invested in it, which I knew was going to happen,

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 3>but when it actually happened, I was like, what it

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 3>felt like a huge invasion of my privacy and it

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:52.720
<v Speaker 3>was just really traumatizing. I just felt like I had

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:53.720
<v Speaker 3>ruined my life.

0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 2>So now that you've said that word, I one hundred

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.679
<v Speaker 2>percent felt the same. So it was like the lights

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 2>were on, but like no one was home, so like

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I was just going through motions. I was like meeting people.

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was doing everything that I was

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 2>meant to be doing, but like I wasn't there, Like

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the what's going on? Like I'm

0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't like a shell of myself because I

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.879
<v Speaker 2>was still myself, but like everything just felt not real.

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:18.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just really trippy.

0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And you were dissociated.

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that I don't know if you remember this,

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but do you remember coming through Melbourne Airport? It was

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 2>just you and me and we had just grabbed our

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 2>luggage and we're coming through customs. Do you remember the

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.159
<v Speaker 2>customs police standing there? Do you remember? I don't know

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>if you know that. They started whispering to each other

0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.400
<v Speaker 2>like there's Anna and Matt and before we even came

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.760
<v Speaker 2>through the gate, and I remember thinking to myself, what

0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.359
<v Speaker 2>the fuck? Yeah, like, how do they know who the

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:43.560
<v Speaker 2>fuck we are? You know what I mean? I was

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.399
<v Speaker 2>like I remember like pushing our trolley and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is wild. And then you rely when we came

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 2>through and everyone was like pointing at us and.

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 3>That yeah, and then there was the paparazz si and

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 3>it was just like an unreal experience.

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like it was weird.

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 3>It was like we left our life and then we

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 3>came back to it and everything was different and no

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:07.119
<v Speaker 3>one could understand how we fell, even our friends and family.

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea like I remember I was putting

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 2>my luggage in the boot of my dad's car and

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 2>this car just broke pulled over, and like these people

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 2>got outside taking photos of me, and I was like,

0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck. I still shake a little bit about

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 2>it. It was like weird. It was like, why do they care? Yeah,

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>it's strange.

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 3>I remember I got home to my parents' house and

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 3>the next day I stayed at their house and the

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 3>next day my dad was like, let's go for a

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<v Speaker 3>walk and I was like, no way. Like it honestly

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<v Speaker 3>felt like the scariest thing ever. And I didn't leave

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<v Speaker 3>the house for like three or four days after I

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<v Speaker 3>got home because I was so afraid of someone recognizing me,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it felt traumatic, which sounds ridiculous, and I understand

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<v Speaker 3>now that that sounds totally bizarre, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want anyone to recognize me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember my.

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<v Speaker 3>Close friends threw like a little get together party for

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<v Speaker 3>it was literally five or six of us and it

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<v Speaker 3>was so unlucky. But I left the house and as

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<v Speaker 3>I was leaving the house, this big group of teenagers

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<v Speaker 3>was walking past and they went ballistic, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was the moment when I realized I was really

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<v Speaker 3>feeling dissociated because it was like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching it all unfold.

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<v Speaker 3>They were all screaming and running up to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, like my life is

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<v Speaker 3>never going to be the same again, which it is

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<v Speaker 3>now and it's fine, but in that moment, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>this is terrible, and I remember getting into my friend's

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<v Speaker 3>car and balling my eyes out.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know that? Yeah, yeah, a pack of

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers were the worst fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, And I mean, Matt and I have spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to all of our cast members. Everyone went into therapy

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<v Speaker 3>after the show. So I think that if you are

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to go on to a reality TV show, number one,

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<v Speaker 3>your mental health has to be at its optimum.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're having any sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Mental health issues, I would say steer well clear of

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<v Speaker 3>a reality TV show because you are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>seriously tested coming out of it. I had an amazing edit,

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<v Speaker 3>like my fights with Josh weren't even shown, and I

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<v Speaker 3>struggled to the maximum. I know you struggled to the maximum,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think if my edit wasn't that good, but

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I mean I think, Matt, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you guys about this for anyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about going on a reality TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>With the new season of love Aland coming up as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just being mindful that it will really test

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<v Speaker 3>you and it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a fun time.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like we were having a seven week holiday

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<v Speaker 3>and everything with sunshine and rainbows and like social media.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not, as it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>No, get ready to be tested. Yeah, but some people

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<v Speaker 2>are stronger and some people can go through it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, And I mean, look, there are some amazing

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<v Speaker 3>things that have come from it. Obviously we have our

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<v Speaker 3>podcast now, which I'm super grateful for, our friendship, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we have all of this great stuff that's come from it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was very testing mentally at the start and

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<v Speaker 3>obviously like not something that we would wish upon.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like going through that, though, did mature me

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<v Speaker 2>so much. I believe I matured so much when I

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<v Speaker 2>came off the show because I was put in situations

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<v Speaker 2>environments that I wasn't used to and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>like handle myself in a certain way. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I developed in leaps and bounds and I would

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<v Speaker 2>have if I didn't go on the show. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I mean yeah, I think any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>testing situation does help me grow. Like we've spoken about

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<v Speaker 3>with our testing relationships, the show was testing and we

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<v Speaker 3>both come out the other end.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, some people are still struggling. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that for a fact, so it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A little warning, but also like once in a lifetime

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<v Speaker 3>experience that we both have some amazing memories from.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, guys, so I hope we answered enough of

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<v Speaker 2>your questions. If we didn't, make sure you head over

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<v Speaker 2>to at Where's your Head at pod and ask away

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully we can get to some more of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And on next week's episode we are talking about surviving rejection.

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<v Speaker 1>And the I yeah, Matt's got a lot to learn

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<v Speaker 1>about the ick.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, until next time, we will see you later,

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<v Speaker 3>so bye.