Speaker 1: I've definitely dated my fair share of douchebags. My time.
Speaker 2: Let's get tingling.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm spiraling. Oh my God, tell us.
Speaker 2: Everything flame emojis cleft, right and center.
Speaker 1: Matt loves a bit of God.
Speaker 2: And I need to text you back. I really need.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. I'm the most jealous person ever.
Speaker 2: Relationships like a fart. If you have to force it,
Speaker 2: it's probably shiit Hi.
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Speaker 3: I'll be a bloody single and alone with ten cats
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Lie.
Speaker 3: On today's episode of Where's Your Head Out, we are
Speaker 3: jumping straight back into our Love Island tea spill.
Speaker 2: All right, I know, let's not fuck spiders. Let's get
Speaker 2: straight back into it.
Speaker 3: Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all
Speaker 3: things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more. All right, and so
Speaker 2: we've already spilt a lot of tea, a lot of tea.
Speaker 2: So we've asked you guys to ask us your top
Speaker 2: questions about Love Island and our experience. So do we
Speaker 2: want to jump in let's do it all right. So
Speaker 2: the first one is do you have access to the
Speaker 2: outside world at all?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: So you literally get off of the plane because we
Speaker 3: filmed in Fiji, and they take away your phone, your passport.
Speaker 1: You literally become a prisoner you do.
Speaker 2: So. I remember literally coming off the plane and the
Speaker 2: producer was standing there and she's like passport and wallet
Speaker 2: and phone, and I was just like, it's like, can
Speaker 2: I least say good to my mum? And she was
Speaker 2: like yeah, sure, and I was just like see your mom,
Speaker 2: see on the other side, and then just handed it over.
Speaker 2: I remember being in the car on the way to
Speaker 2: the hotel where we stayed out. I was like real stress,
Speaker 2: Like I was like, shit, this is real.
Speaker 1: Now, it's all becoming very real. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you basically away from your phone for seven weeks,
Speaker 3: which is crazy in itself because people wantn't get off
Speaker 3: their phone these days seven minutes seven minutes, let alone
Speaker 3: seven weeks. And when you actually get your phone back,
Speaker 3: the feeling is so bizarre.
Speaker 1: It just feels like a different world.
Speaker 2: I remember picking up my phone, like turning it back
Speaker 2: on and like I was looking at like their notifications
Speaker 2: because it was seven weeks of it, and I remember shaking,
Speaker 2: like my hand was shaking. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for this, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And like everything had happened, people had seen everything that
Speaker 2: had happened in there.
Speaker 1: You don't know, and you don't know what they've seen,
Speaker 1: and you don't.
Speaker 2: Know do you remember that? Like the four of us
Speaker 2: we all just I remember just taking a phone charge
Speaker 2: and I sat in like the restaurant of the thing,
Speaker 2: and I just sat on my phone. I was like
Speaker 2: for two or three hours just scrolling replying back to people.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know where any of you guys were.
Speaker 2: I was just engulfed in it because I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck has happened? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember calling my parents and the reception was really bad,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I just want to talk
Speaker 3: to people normally and calling my best friends and then
Speaker 3: being like knowing who Josh was and like, how do
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 2: I haven't told you exactly? And I'm in the group
Speaker 2: chat with the boys. They're like talking about like cart
Speaker 2: hearing that, and I was like, what the fuck? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I was like, this is wild.
Speaker 2: They're like talking about her coming to like our parties
Speaker 2: in that, and I was just like, I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck.
Speaker 3: It almost feels like an invasion of privacy because you
Speaker 3: go on the show and you know it's being filmed.
Speaker 3: You know you're being filmed the whole time, and in
Speaker 3: the back of your mind to some level, know that
Speaker 3: people are watching. But when you get your phone back
Speaker 3: and they've actually been watching, You're like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I remember when I first got my phone back and
Speaker 3: someone had sent me a clip and it was a
Speaker 3: clip of Josh and I in the shower and how
Speaker 3: do I describe this? They had cut me off just
Speaker 3: before the so we basically like are naked in the
Speaker 3: shower together. And I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: am humiliated. And it had like millions of years, so
Speaker 3: I was shocked. I was like, what have I done that,
Speaker 3: I've ruined my life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that was wild. And then like the
Speaker 2: little clips I was seeing and I was like, I
Speaker 2: even don't even remember saying this.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the it's wild.
Speaker 3: It was next question that you guys want to know,
Speaker 3: do you agree with how they made you look on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: We spoke about it before, Yeah, I do, I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, they pick one bit of
Speaker 2: your personality. They could have picked anything. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was the funny guy I should have been from the start,
Speaker 2: but the way it is, they made me the emotional guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the emotional model. Well with the sense of humor.
Speaker 2: I think at the start they wanted me to be
Speaker 2: a bit of like the player ahead and the player,
Speaker 2: and then I think they realized, quick spark that that's
Speaker 2: not my personality. Yeah, I'm not actually like the player,
Speaker 2: Like I come across like that, but.
Speaker 3: Would someone dis I agree, I do it tastefully at least,
Speaker 3: what is being a player tastefully that Like, No, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm not. I just yeah, I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: Then they realized that quick smart, and they're like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to like.
Speaker 3: Adapts adapt said, yeah, I mean, look, I definitely think
Speaker 3: my personality was shown. I definitely was seen to be
Speaker 3: doing a lot of mothering of cars, yeah, which is
Speaker 3: definitely in my personality, and very nurturing my relationship with Josh,
Speaker 3: like we were obsessed with each other, so that was
Speaker 3: seen a lot. The one thing they didn't show is
Speaker 3: if Josh and I had a bit of a fight.
Speaker 2: I remember that that was that like when we, like
Speaker 2: you guys were hating each.
Speaker 1: Other, we were having a massive fight.
Speaker 2: Yes, thinking the right time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I remember we were in the fight and
Speaker 3: Josh got on the bike and they asked a question
Speaker 3: about me and he said something cute and I smiled
Speaker 3: like just like a little bit, And that was the
Speaker 3: only part that they showed.
Speaker 1: And the whole time I was like, I was like
Speaker 1: in a bad mood. I was like this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: None of the fights of Josh and I was showing
Speaker 3: because they wanted us to look like this amazing couple
Speaker 3: who were so in love and would never fight.
Speaker 1: But that just wasn't the reality.
Speaker 2: So another question is is love and scripted? Do the
Speaker 2: producers tell you what to do?
Speaker 1: It's not scripted.
Speaker 2: None of it is scripted, none of it. We're out
Speaker 2: there doing our own thing. But the one thing they
Speaker 2: tell you to do would be where to sit to
Speaker 2: have certain conversations.
Speaker 3: You and you're constantly probed to talk about your emotions
Speaker 3: with people, even if it's been like ten minutes since
Speaker 3: you said that you like them. They're like, go have
Speaker 3: a chat and discuss how you feel, which is so
Speaker 3: uncomfortable and would never happen in real life, but.
Speaker 2: That early into a relationships totally.
Speaker 3: I think one thing that people don't really get a
Speaker 3: clear sense of is we obviously go into the beach
Speaker 3: hut to talk with the producers, which comes is edited
Speaker 3: into the footage that they have from the day or
Speaker 3: the week or whatever. And I think you get a
Speaker 3: clear sense of what the producers want you to say.
Speaker 3: And I think that in a way could be classified
Speaker 3: as being somewhat manipulated, because they might say to you.
Speaker 2: I remember that they never would straight up asking what
Speaker 2: to say. They would have a roundabout sort of way.
Speaker 3: Yet they would have an angle, and you could tell
Speaker 3: what their angle was, and until you said it.
Speaker 2: You're not getting out of that beacht. You're not coming
Speaker 2: to bed.
Speaker 3: So they'd be like, so, Matt, you like Isabelle and Jordan.
Speaker 3: You actually like Jordan more. But they would be like,
Speaker 3: but we think that you and Isabelle are so cute.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Isabelle. And then in your head you'd
Speaker 3: know that they wanted you to be with Isabelle.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which brings us to the next question, did
Speaker 2: the producers matchmake couples? And I think that I've told you.
Speaker 2: I think that was the only time that I was
Speaker 2: steered in one direction. Yeah, and they never told me
Speaker 2: who to pick, but the way they were talking, they
Speaker 2: steered me to Isabelle away from Jordan, which naturally I
Speaker 2: would have picked Jordan. Yeah, but I felt like I
Speaker 2: was steered in that direction.
Speaker 1: And you've told me that you regret that, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: I do regret not picking Jordan. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 2: picked her. She was definitely my flavor. Yeah. So next
Speaker 2: question we were asked is do any of the couples
Speaker 2: have sex on the show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think a lot more than you'd probably think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember when I first arrived into the Love Island
Speaker 3: villa and Matt's bed was situated very close to mine.
Speaker 3: I'm comfortably close, and there was a lot of noise
Speaker 3: coming from your bed. I was like, wow, like we're
Speaker 3: on camera, like it's the series.
Speaker 2: I remember when I got off what I didn't have
Speaker 2: any fants on and you were like fuck, Matt, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, disgusting. Yeah, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: the couples did. But did it even show any of
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they definitely don't show anyone having sex obviously,
Speaker 3: because it's not born, but it's implied. It's definitely implied,
Speaker 3: And some people got a worse edit than others. Like
Speaker 3: I felt so sorry for Margarita, Like people were getting
Speaker 3: up to serious mischief in the bedroom and they made
Speaker 3: it out like she was going crazy with Blake in
Speaker 3: the bed. So I was like, when I watched it back,
Speaker 3: I was like, I feel bad for Like, if I
Speaker 3: was targeted like that after seeing what everyone else was
Speaker 3: getting up to, I.
Speaker 1: Would be pissed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I went into the show being like,
Speaker 3: there's no way I'm going to be sleeping with anyone
Speaker 3: on there, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be having sex on camera.
Speaker 3: Like even saying that out loud feels so wild. But yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're sleeping in bed with someone who you really
Speaker 3: like every single night.
Speaker 2: You're only human.
Speaker 1: He'd be surprised what happens under the cover.
Speaker 2: Ye gonna crack it or get angry about that. So
Speaker 2: another question is are there cameras in the Love Island toilets? Yes, sirious,
Speaker 2: there's cameras everywhere. You literally cannot get off camera the
Speaker 2: whole time. Yeah. I remember I was having a little
Speaker 2: silk one time and I was laying on the back
Speaker 2: and I literally watched the camera follow me get off,
Speaker 2: like sit somewhere else that I've tried to walk to
Speaker 2: another place, and it literally was following year and I
Speaker 2: was just like, fuck off. I was like, seriously with
Speaker 2: some time to myself.
Speaker 3: And you know what, every single person in there, literally
Speaker 3: within forty eight hours has had a mild to large
Speaker 3: mental breakdown, mainly on the large side, Like I think
Speaker 3: twenty four hours in I.
Speaker 1: Was bawling my eyes out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just wasn't shown because it's such a
Speaker 3: foreign environment. You literally have a breakdown because it's so overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Like the feeling of being in there and being on
Speaker 3: camera twenty four to seven is, without a doubt, the
Speaker 3: most overwhelmed I've ever felt in my life. And I
Speaker 3: remember one so I was also having a bit of
Speaker 3: a breakdown and I just felt claustrophobic, like I felt
Speaker 3: like the walls were closing in on me and I
Speaker 3: couldn't get out, and I actually they could see me
Speaker 3: freaking out and I started crying and they took me
Speaker 3: out to the front of the villa just so I
Speaker 3: could have a breath because I was like, honestly felt
Speaker 3: like just an overwhelming I was basically heading towards having
Speaker 3: a panic attack, and I think they could see that,
Speaker 3: and so they took me out the front to just
Speaker 3: take a break breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, in saying there's cameras everywhere and you're aways on camera,
Speaker 2: you do forget though, Like I felt like I forgot
Speaker 2: that I was on camera.
Speaker 3: I mean for the first twenty four hours, I definitely
Speaker 3: was watching the cameras and kind of figured out where
Speaker 3: they were all places.
Speaker 2: See, how could you not they were standing there, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were everywhere, And I think that was
Speaker 3: a lot to take in.
Speaker 1: But honestly, after the twenty.
Speaker 3: Four hours of your first being in their passes, totally forget,
Speaker 3: like it's such a far distant memory that you're on
Speaker 3: camera because.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of other concerns Other than.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of other concerns, like there's so much drama.
Speaker 1: You're constantly on edge.
Speaker 3: Like we used to always say the moment you felt
Speaker 3: like oh my God, like I can actually relax, something
Speaker 3: really bad would happen and they'd bring someone else in,
Speaker 3: they'd bring in a bomb squad, Like it was constant stress.
Speaker 3: Like I think for seven whole weeks, I was in
Speaker 3: a constant state of anxiety.
Speaker 2: The same I reckon I was as well. I used
Speaker 2: to like everyone used to be like, yeah, we've got
Speaker 2: a challenge today. Woo, I'm so excited. And I used
Speaker 2: to sit there like, fuck, what are they gonna do
Speaker 2: to fuck with me today?
Speaker 1: I just like, have I done?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck are they going to
Speaker 2: do to me today? So with other challenges, I wasn't
Speaker 2: as stressed as the ones when I was coupled with
Speaker 2: Vanessa because I knew that they were going to try
Speaker 2: a driver wedge between me and her.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right.
Speaker 2: So the final question we got was did anyone have
Speaker 2: a breakdown?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone had a breakdown at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely did documented that I did.
Speaker 3: I remember I actually because I came in with Phoebe
Speaker 3: and I remember getting in there, and I think I
Speaker 3: adapted to the situation a little bit better than she did.
Speaker 3: And I remember Phoebe just being like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I know that I'm on a TV show, but I
Speaker 3: didn't expect it to be this full on, like I'm
Speaker 3: being filmed constantly, and she was right like it was insane,
Speaker 3: Like we would be in the shower number one. The
Speaker 3: showers were very communal, like everyone in the whole villa
Speaker 3: saw each other naked. There was no sort of privacy,
Speaker 3: and you have to remember this is people you don't know,
Speaker 3: and you're like trying to form relationships with these people.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Phoebe was just like I can't even shower.
Speaker 2: I remember when I walked out to the shower and
Speaker 2: I'd like look at the cameras and they'd like swing
Speaker 2: onto the shower and I'm like, fuck, just a little
Speaker 2: bit of privacy wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, couldn't go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: The only thing we were allowed to do is take
Speaker 3: our mics off to actually go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: But there was a massive, massive camera.
Speaker 2: Remember every time I walked in through the bathroom, I
Speaker 2: was like, guys, you don't want to hear this. And
Speaker 2: I was like gotta be a big one, like strip
Speaker 2: the micro right off and throw it on the counter. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, it was just constant anxiety, and when you're in
Speaker 3: a state of constant anxiety, breakdowns are inevitable. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: everyone's going to break down. It's really difficult. And as
Speaker 3: we touched on before, everyone's mental health issues really.
Speaker 1: Got brought to the surface. So we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that next, all.
Speaker 2: Right, and let's discuss the mental health issues that come
Speaker 2: with being on a reality TV show. Obviously, before we
Speaker 2: go on, they do all the psychological testing. They have
Speaker 2: a psychologist watching us the whole time we're on there,
Speaker 2: and we have access to him. But that doesn't take
Speaker 2: away from the stuff that comes at being on that show.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think they definitely, for their own
Speaker 3: legal purposes, have to have a psychologist watching over everything.
Speaker 3: But I mean, there was definitely a few times that
Speaker 3: I would see people hit breaking point and the psychologists
Speaker 3: never really came in to rescue anyone, but people were
Speaker 3: kind of just like talked off alledge in the villa
Speaker 3: because they didn't want anyone to leave.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was having one of my first
Speaker 2: big breakdown in the beach Hut and they offered him
Speaker 2: to me, and I said.
Speaker 1: No, oh, okay, So they did offer him.
Speaker 2: I thought of it as a sign of like I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I don't, like, I'm not that bad,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, I didn't want
Speaker 2: it to be portrayed because if I thought in my head,
Speaker 2: if it's that bad. Imagine how it's going to look,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So I was trying to,
Speaker 2: like myself, talk myself out of it, but obviously it
Speaker 2: got aired and I was pulling my eyes out.
Speaker 3: So that's interesting because I didn't know that. So when
Speaker 3: you were crying in the beach Hut and really upset,
Speaker 3: normally only when everyone because literally you weren't the only person.
Speaker 3: Every single person had those moments. But they've just aired
Speaker 3: yours because they were going along with Matt Cryes all
Speaker 3: the time, that type of vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they aired mine, and they probably didn't air
Speaker 2: anyone else's I don't think. Which was not about Vanessa.
Speaker 2: That crying, if you want to know the hot goss,
Speaker 2: it was not about Vanessa. I was missing someone on
Speaker 2: the outside and I was crying about that. It was
Speaker 2: bringing up old emotions from that. Wow, And then they
Speaker 2: made it out like it was Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I was crying about my ex and they made it
Speaker 2: out like it was Vanessa because it was bringing old
Speaker 2: emotions to the search.
Speaker 1: That's some serious tea. Just yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, and I think for anyone who
Speaker 3: has never been on a reality TV show, which is
Speaker 3: most people, they run you on not a lot of sleep,
Speaker 3: Like I reckon, we would be getting three to five
Speaker 3: hours of sleep at night mat max max. So there
Speaker 3: was times when the sun was coming up and we
Speaker 3: were only just going to bed.
Speaker 2: So when we film those beach huts, when we're talking
Speaker 2: to the camera, that's after a full day. So when
Speaker 2: we're in our going like our dress up close for
Speaker 2: the night, that's we don't have any concept of time either.
Speaker 2: Don't forget that, but that was probably between three to
Speaker 2: four am in the morning. That's why we look so
Speaker 2: like tired and what we're saying is actually complete garbage
Speaker 2: if you think about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So just to touch on that more, we don't
Speaker 3: have any clocks watches like obviously phones with time on it,
Speaker 3: so we basically rely on their time schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which they would change, I'm assuming to keep us guessing,
Speaker 2: because I remember sometimes dinner would be when there was sun.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it'd be like felt like hours after the sun
Speaker 2: had set. Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, we were definitely overly emotional
Speaker 3: because we were running on a lack of sleep. And
Speaker 3: I remember coming out of the villa and everyone had
Speaker 3: a meeting with the psychologist, and he said to me,
Speaker 3: don't be surprised if you sleep for like a week
Speaker 3: or two weeks straight, because you've not actually been getting
Speaker 3: a lot of sleep in there.
Speaker 1: And he related it somewhat.
Speaker 3: To people who have gone away in the army and
Speaker 3: haven't slept for days on end, and then they'll come
Speaker 3: home and do a massive sleep And basically that's what
Speaker 3: he told me. So even psychologically, I was just like, what,
Speaker 3: like that sounds bizarre, And he was right. I came
Speaker 3: back from Fiji and I slept for like a week
Speaker 3: and a half straight.
Speaker 1: I was exhausted.
Speaker 2: I was actually the opposite. So I was still going
Speaker 2: off that sleeping pattern. I was going to sleep at
Speaker 2: all hours of the morning, right, but I was going
Speaker 2: to a lot of things, like a lot of events
Speaker 2: in that and I would like come back and I
Speaker 2: like wouldn't fall asleep till god knows what time, and
Speaker 2: I'd wake up randomly in the morning, like an early time.
Speaker 2: So it took me a long time to get back
Speaker 2: into my normal sleeping pattern.
Speaker 1: Probably still running off a lot of adrenaline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something that I wanted to touch on which I've
Speaker 3: never really spoken is coming off of Love Island and
Speaker 3: my mental state because I was not in a good place.
Speaker 1: I was very dissociated.
Speaker 2: What does associated me, So.
Speaker 3: Being dissociated is when you feel very detached from your
Speaker 3: environment and the people around you or your body. So
Speaker 3: when I actually came off of Love Island, I felt
Speaker 3: like I was watching myself from above. I felt so
Speaker 3: distant from myself, and I think it was because number one,
Speaker 3: I came off of the show and I was like,
Speaker 3: it kind of blew my mind that people had watched
Speaker 3: the past seven weeks of my life and were really
Speaker 3: invested in it, which I knew was going to happen,
Speaker 3: but when it actually happened, I was like, what it
Speaker 3: felt like a huge invasion of my privacy and it
Speaker 3: was just really traumatizing. I just felt like I had
Speaker 3: ruined my life.
Speaker 2: So now that you've said that word, I one hundred
Speaker 2: percent felt the same. So it was like the lights
Speaker 2: were on, but like no one was home, so like
Speaker 2: I was just going through motions. I was like meeting people.
Speaker 2: I was like I was doing everything that I was
Speaker 2: meant to be doing, but like I wasn't there, Like
Speaker 2: I was like, what the what's going on? Like I'm
Speaker 2: like it wasn't like a shell of myself because I
Speaker 2: was still myself, but like everything just felt not real.
Speaker 2: It's just really trippy.
Speaker 1: And you were dissociated.
Speaker 2: And the thing that I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 2: but do you remember coming through Melbourne Airport? It was
Speaker 2: just you and me and we had just grabbed our
Speaker 2: luggage and we're coming through customs. Do you remember the
Speaker 2: customs police standing there? Do you remember? I don't know
Speaker 2: if you know that. They started whispering to each other
Speaker 2: like there's Anna and Matt and before we even came
Speaker 2: through the gate, and I remember thinking to myself, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah, like, how do they know who the
Speaker 2: fuck we are? You know what I mean? I was
Speaker 2: like I remember like pushing our trolley and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is wild. And then you rely when we came
Speaker 2: through and everyone was like pointing at us and.
Speaker 3: That yeah, and then there was the paparazz si and
Speaker 3: it was just like an unreal experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was weird.
Speaker 3: It was like we left our life and then we
Speaker 3: came back to it and everything was different and no
Speaker 3: one could understand how we fell, even our friends and family.
Speaker 2: I had no idea like I remember I was putting
Speaker 2: my luggage in the boot of my dad's car and
Speaker 2: this car just broke pulled over, and like these people
Speaker 2: got outside taking photos of me, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck. I still shake a little bit about
Speaker 2: it. It was like weird. It was like, why do they care? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's strange.
Speaker 3: I remember I got home to my parents' house and
Speaker 3: the next day I stayed at their house and the
Speaker 3: next day my dad was like, let's go for a
Speaker 3: walk and I was like, no way. Like it honestly
Speaker 3: felt like the scariest thing ever. And I didn't leave
Speaker 3: the house for like three or four days after I
Speaker 3: got home because I was so afraid of someone recognizing me,
Speaker 3: Like it felt traumatic, which sounds ridiculous, and I understand
Speaker 3: now that that sounds totally bizarre, but I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to recognize me.
Speaker 1: And I remember my.
Speaker 3: Close friends threw like a little get together party for
Speaker 3: it was literally five or six of us and it
Speaker 3: was so unlucky. But I left the house and as
Speaker 3: I was leaving the house, this big group of teenagers
Speaker 3: was walking past and they went ballistic, and I think
Speaker 3: that was the moment when I realized I was really
Speaker 3: feeling dissociated because it was like I was.
Speaker 1: Watching it all unfold.
Speaker 3: They were all screaming and running up to me, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, like my life is
Speaker 3: never going to be the same again, which it is
Speaker 3: now and it's fine, but in that moment, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is terrible, and I remember getting into my friend's
Speaker 3: car and balling my eyes out.
Speaker 2: How do you know that? Yeah, yeah, a pack of
Speaker 2: teenagers were the worst fact.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, And I mean, Matt and I have spoken
Speaker 3: to all of our cast members. Everyone went into therapy
Speaker 3: after the show. So I think that if you are
Speaker 3: wanting to go on to a reality TV show, number one,
Speaker 3: your mental health has to be at its optimum.
Speaker 1: If you're having any sort of.
Speaker 3: Mental health issues, I would say steer well clear of
Speaker 3: a reality TV show because you are going to be
Speaker 3: seriously tested coming out of it. I had an amazing edit,
Speaker 3: like my fights with Josh weren't even shown, and I
Speaker 3: struggled to the maximum. I know you struggled to the maximum,
Speaker 3: and I think if my edit wasn't that good, but
Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean I think, Matt, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to talk to you guys about this for anyone who's
Speaker 3: thinking about going on a reality TV show.
Speaker 2: With the new season of love Aland coming up as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just being mindful that it will really test
Speaker 3: you and it's not easy.
Speaker 1: It looks like a fun time.
Speaker 3: It looked like we were having a seven week holiday
Speaker 3: and everything with sunshine and rainbows and like social media.
Speaker 1: It was not, as it seems.
Speaker 2: No, get ready to be tested. Yeah, but some people
Speaker 2: are stronger and some people can go through it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, And I mean, look, there are some amazing
Speaker 3: things that have come from it. Obviously we have our
Speaker 3: podcast now, which I'm super grateful for, our friendship, you know,
Speaker 3: we have all of this great stuff that's come from it.
Speaker 3: But it was very testing mentally at the start and
Speaker 3: obviously like not something that we would wish upon.
Speaker 2: I feel like going through that, though, did mature me
Speaker 2: so much. I believe I matured so much when I
Speaker 2: came off the show because I was put in situations
Speaker 2: environments that I wasn't used to and I had to
Speaker 2: like handle myself in a certain way. So I feel
Speaker 2: like I developed in leaps and bounds and I would
Speaker 2: have if I didn't go on the show. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: grateful for that as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean yeah, I think any sort of
Speaker 3: testing situation does help me grow. Like we've spoken about
Speaker 3: with our testing relationships, the show was testing and we
Speaker 3: both come out the other end.
Speaker 1: But you know, some people are still struggling. I know
Speaker 1: that for a fact, so it's.
Speaker 3: A little warning, but also like once in a lifetime
Speaker 3: experience that we both have some amazing memories from.
Speaker 2: All Right, guys, so I hope we answered enough of
Speaker 2: your questions. If we didn't, make sure you head over
Speaker 2: to at Where's your Head at pod and ask away
Speaker 2: and hopefully we can get to some more of them.
Speaker 3: And on next week's episode we are talking about surviving rejection.
Speaker 1: And the I yeah, Matt's got a lot to learn
Speaker 1: about the ick.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, until next time, we will see you later,
Speaker 3: so bye.