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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the official Super Coach AFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Al Payton.

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Speaker 1: This is the fourth and final positional show for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five preseason and it's a big one because

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about forwards. There's a few picks

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Speaker 1: which are in a lot of teams and after that

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Speaker 1: it's very much up in the air. Very keen to

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Speaker 1: hear the thoughts of our expert panel here to talk

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Speaker 1: about forwards today and joining me. First of all, welcome

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Speaker 1: back Chloe who was on our rock show last week. Chloe,

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Speaker 1: happy to have you on to talk forwards.

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Speaker 3: Great to be back. Plenty of forwards to get through,

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Speaker 3: so keen to have a chat about.

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Speaker 1: Them absolutely, and Tim Mitchell is with us again, Timmy,

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Speaker 1: great to have you on board.

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Speaker 4: Hey oh yeah, good to be back on board for

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. And we're recording this just before the

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Speaker 4: preseason matches as well, so sure there'll be plenty to

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Speaker 4: talk about the next couple of weeks as we get

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Speaker 4: closer to the first beunt to the season.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's definitely worth mentioning.

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Speaker 1: And Patch obviously normally on the show, but he's out

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Speaker 1: with a one week injury.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: We have a very capable replacement, the Godfather himself, top ten,

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Speaker 1: top five finisher in Supercoach a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: YouTube Sensation.

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Speaker 2: Welcome aboard. Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, and absolute pleasure my first appearance,

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Speaker 5: and this will be another one that's going a treasure forever,

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Speaker 5: will be your memory. Are going to keep the rest of

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Speaker 5: my life.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we're going to live up to that billing.

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Speaker 1: But we've got you on before we get into some

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Speaker 1: forward chat, how are you looking at thinking about the season?

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Speaker 2: How is your team looking?

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Speaker 1: Without going into too much detail at this stage, but

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Speaker 1: you've just put out an absolute mountain of content over

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Speaker 1: the preseason. But I did see you had a video

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Speaker 1: yesterday something about are you confusion? I think it was

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Speaker 1: called so how are we feeling with so many players

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Speaker 1: up for discussion?

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Speaker 5: I built a team, I deleted it, built another team,

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Speaker 5: and then repeated that process one thousand times. Okay, now

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Speaker 5: I'll past a one thousand time mark, and you my

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Speaker 5: latest team is that no dollars left. The Spuds have

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Speaker 5: taken rules, so it's all disappeared. So at the moment,

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Speaker 5: I'm broke, I'm trying to find money, can't find it,

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Speaker 5: No banks limit money, nothing's been.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we might be able to find something today that

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Speaker 2: can help you out.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get into some forwards, and I thought we've

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Speaker 1: used these on these positional shows down a little bit

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Speaker 1: of strategy talk before we get into some specific players,

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Speaker 1: and really with the forward line, it's just a question

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Speaker 1: of do we just go full on mid price madness.

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Speaker 1: There's actually quite a few good rookies. I think when

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Speaker 1: we get to those, we'll get into them more. But

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Speaker 1: there's some names that we could consider starting on the field,

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Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of players that you would

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Speaker 1: consider primos in the forward line. But of those sort

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Speaker 1: of maybe four or five, Tim, can I ask you

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Speaker 1: how many have you actually got in your team currently?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. Al I was pretty set when the

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Speaker 4: game opened on going pretty hard at the forward line

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Speaker 4: and trying to get probably sort of four or five

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Speaker 4: that I thought could be there for most of the season,

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Speaker 4: talking about guys like Jason Horn, Francis, Isaac Rankin, obviously,

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Speaker 4: Caleb Daniel who's just about the number one pick this year,

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Speaker 4: and then Matteas Philip who was in that mix as well.

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Speaker 4: And him getting injured sort of threw me a bit

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Speaker 4: because he was sort of a great price point and

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Speaker 4: there's not too many options around his sort of three

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Speaker 4: had to sort of think about what I'm going to

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Speaker 4: as well, looks a bargain. It's at Kilda two, so

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Speaker 4: I was pretty happy to lock in those five, and

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Speaker 4: then I thought, I'll just spend whatever money I've got

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Speaker 4: on the rest of the premiums. But at the moment,

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Speaker 4: I don't have Isaac Rankin just a little bit worried

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Speaker 4: about his durability, but I'm just trying to find reasons

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Speaker 4: not to pick him, really because I want that extra

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Speaker 4: midfield premium. But who knows, with all the midfield rookies

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Speaker 4: that we've got on off of this year, maybe the

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Speaker 4: forward line is the place to spend up and to

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Speaker 4: go big.

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Speaker 1: Looking at my team did another reshuffle on the weekend

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Speaker 1: and the thing that stood out to me was that

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Speaker 1: the forward rookies are actually looking pretty good compared to

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Speaker 1: does that limit how many of the primos or the

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Speaker 1: mid prices, even in the forward line that I can pick,

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Speaker 1: because you want to make sure you've got the right rookies.

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Speaker 1: But where do you sit quickly on that one at

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Speaker 1: the moment, Chloe, So, as per.

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Speaker 3: Usual, I am unfortunately trying to squeeze in as many

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Speaker 3: of those great forward mid price options as possible, even

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Speaker 3: so having one in my flex position currently, so I

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Speaker 3: only have one premium as a result. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: how some of those rookies are looking fantastic. I think

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Speaker 3: at least the ones that I have in my team

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Speaker 3: but they seem like quite a high percentage to play

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Speaker 3: as opposed to some other areas of the ground at

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Speaker 3: the moment. But I do love those mid price options,

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Speaker 3: So at the moment, I'm sticking to a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: And abs how much of your bank has gone on

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Speaker 2: the on the forward line, I should.

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Speaker 5: Say, because the Ford line is so cheap, a lot

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Speaker 5: of my money's gone there. But at the moment, the

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Speaker 5: thing is, it's all about scoring points in Super Coach

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Speaker 5: and these mid prices like you've got You've got players

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Speaker 5: of the caliber of McCrae, Parker, Calb Daniel. I mean

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Speaker 5: at their price, I'm going to point per dollar and

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Speaker 5: they're bargains and you got to I've got to get

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Speaker 5: them because I like to shop at the market, so

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Speaker 5: the little prices. So I've also snuck in Sanders somehow.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how why I got him, but I

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Speaker 5: have a feeling that Bev is going to look after

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Speaker 5: me this year and do good for me. So Sanders.

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Speaker 5: So I've got five. Last night I had six, but

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Speaker 5: I took I took Ranking out because the cash I've

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Speaker 5: maybe could spend it on the midfielder. So I took

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Speaker 1: Do we want to start with We want to start

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Speaker 1: you would consider a promo in the forward line. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tim, what attracted you to him in the

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Speaker 1: first place? And then is there a reason you're off

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Speaker 4: I think it's just how quickly scores points out. Like

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Speaker 4: we know that there's always the chance that a guy

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Speaker 4: who spends a feurv oft of time up forward can

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Speaker 4: have longer periods of games where maybe he doesn't have

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Speaker 4: a great number of disposals. But I think we saw

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Speaker 4: what within sort of ten or fifteen minute berths him

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Speaker 4: score big points in Super Coach. And I know he

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Speaker 4: ended up averaging ninety seven last year, but you've got

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Speaker 4: a factor in that that includes a game where he

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Speaker 4: more if Rankin hadn't been injured in that particular game,

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Speaker 4: but I mentioned and Abs has left him out as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's sort of the one that I don't have out

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Speaker 4: moment and pretty caen to see what the midfield splits

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Speaker 4: like for the Crows. But yet there's plenty of reasons

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Speaker 4: to be hot on Isaac rankin this year. And I

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Speaker 4: reckon especially with the way that the Crows draw is

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Speaker 4: early on, like they've got a pretty friendly sort of

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Speaker 4: first five or six weeks ranking could explode out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Abs, what do you think about his role?

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Speaker 1: And you know, does he need to get those center

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Speaker 1: bounds to be a real premium scorer? Looking up the

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Speaker 1: cbas from the Crows last year, it was a very

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Speaker 1: wide sort of you know that a lot of players

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Speaker 1: go through there. Matt Crouch was number one with sixty

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Speaker 1: ranking down on thirty eight percent. So is there a

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Speaker 5: The news I've been hearing is that he's going to

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Speaker 5: get close to fifty. So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 5: But if that's the case, he can go crazy. He

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Speaker 5: he's actually he'll be f one for sure. The team

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Speaker 5: we've also ranked his as team mentioned those quick thirty points.

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Speaker 5: He gets a lot of those in the last five

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Speaker 5: or he'll do something to win the game for them,

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Speaker 5: or he'll get those quick bonus forty to fifty points.

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Speaker 5: Because as a non owner last year, I was watching

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Speaker 5: him close because I was hoping he wouldn't score right

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Speaker 5: so and what I was noticing was these big scores

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Speaker 5: when he was on eighty. So he'll just go bang

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Speaker 5: and get those massive points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely in consideration, but it's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of can you you know, could you get him at

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Speaker 1: a similar price maybe later in the year, or or

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Speaker 1: it's best to get on early.

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Speaker 2: With that that early fixture, he's.

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Speaker 4: Not going to go about five hundred and fifty k

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Speaker 3: He I think for me as well, it's more so

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Speaker 3: when you pick him in your forward line. Obviously there

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Speaker 3: should be that great output, especially if he's able to

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Speaker 3: get those cbs up, But it is one of those

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Speaker 3: spots that you then can't use on one of those

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Speaker 3: mid prices. So if someone like a Kayleb Daniel could

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Speaker 3: easily equal that total, then obviously it's pretty smart to

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Speaker 3: go with the cheaper option, and then if Rankin's killing it,

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Speaker 3: try and find a way to bring him in a

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Speaker 4: We should mention as well. So I think four games

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Speaker 4: last year where he had twenty disposals or more. In

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Speaker 4: each of those, I think you went above one hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty. So you had twenty seven against the Giants

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Speaker 4: here won twenty one. Season high against the Lions was

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Speaker 4: twenty three and thirty, he had sort of won twenty

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Speaker 4: There was only one game last year where Rankin didn't

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Speaker 1: The player that's a lot of people are choosing maybe

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Speaker 2: Is he a lock for starting teams? Or am I

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Speaker 5: Well, from what I what I've what I've been hearing

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Speaker 5: time I was on your show. Actually, but the horny

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Speaker 5: Man does have a problem with his tank, and it's improved.

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Speaker 5: which means with easy games, I can see him well

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Speaker 5: his output. If it's just if his attitude is right,

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Speaker 5: we're going to have a big year from the horny.

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Speaker 1: Man and last year. I'm really searching for reasons to

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Speaker 1: justify not picking him. But in twenty one games last year,

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Speaker 1: he had nine over one hundred. After the bye fourteen

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Speaker 2: But is that something to worry about Choe?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Personally, it's not enough to deter me just because I

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Speaker 3: think that he will take his game to another level

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Speaker 3: this year. I did own him last year, which I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can definitely have an impact forward. It's

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Speaker 1: just I guess the other matter of the mix and

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Speaker 1: mention that he averaged just under one hundred last year,

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Speaker 2: How much can you bank on that?

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Speaker 1: But any interest in any other of these, you know,

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Speaker 1: the juicy mid prices.

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Speaker 2: Rank Luke, Jackson, Gillamore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think both of those guys will score well,

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Speaker 4: Of You've got Sewan Darcy's not going to be there

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Speaker 4: around one ol, But I'm pretty confident Radi'll play. He

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Speaker 4: showed enough in those two games, and the Dockers like

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Speaker 4: if Liam Reedy didn't play with Luke Jackson early on,

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Speaker 4: so that pretty much cancels him out because he needs

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Speaker 4: to play as a sole ruckman to do anything. Dylan

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Speaker 4: to get out of control, like he had some really

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Speaker 4: the one that sort of plateaus at that one hundred

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Speaker 4: did last year. You just got to remember on Horn

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Speaker 4: So that's definitely a factor in sort of his scoring

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Speaker 4: I just can't see a word where what's he priced

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Speaker 4: right now, Like he's on an upwards trajectory. I think

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get him much cheaper by leaving him out,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it makes make sense to start him,

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Speaker 5: On the topic of Jackson, strip's going to come back

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Speaker 5: the minute strepth comes back. Then what he can do

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Speaker 2: So as soon as that happens, Yeah, yep, And you're

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Speaker 2: right about Horn fantasy. I'll probably gave it some stage,

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Speaker 2: but I'm trying to hold out for as long as

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Speaker 2: I possibly can. But we need to talk mid prices

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Speaker 1: And how much time do we need to spend on

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Speaker 1: someone like Caleb Daniel. He's already in sixty nine percent

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Speaker 1: the worst of his whole AFL career was sub eight times.

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Speaker 2: He's gone to North Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: We know he's got the license to just pick it

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if any to really say much

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Speaker 1: mean we sort of assume he will just go straight

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Speaker 1: But he averaged ninety seven in twenty twenty two, or

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Speaker 5: around about it. I'd say about a ninety plus. At

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Speaker 5: you should add to his teammates. Plus at Geelong they

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Speaker 5: So I can't see Smith's averaging more than ninety's. That's

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Speaker 5: what I've got him, and I've got him as an

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Speaker 2: So he's not in your team.

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Speaker 5: No, he hasn't been in my team all year.

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Speaker 3: Finding it's very interesting because I have been toying with

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking maybe that's where my money could be better spent,

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Speaker 3: even if it's not quite matching that ninety that might

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Speaker 3: So I am too kind of shopping at the markets.

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Speaker 3: But that's my main reason for wanting to leave him out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You had to put a number on it, Tim, What

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think Abs is probably close to like I might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely one would be keen to see you

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Speaker 2: in action.

440
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Speaker 5: I looked at his average in twenty twenty two and

441
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Speaker 5: I've got it at ninety eight. He had a lot

442
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Speaker 5: of games where he had one hundred percent time on ground.

443
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Speaker 5: He like he was virtually playing every minute he wasn't

444
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Speaker 5: off the ground. There was I think I think most

445
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 5: of them were ninety plus. He won't get that at Geelong.

446
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 5: He's just come off a one year injury. So if

447
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 5: he goes at eighty percent time on ground, plus as

448
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 5: you mentioned his disposal efficiency, he needs to get the

449
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 5: ball forty times with twenty of those will be kicked properly,

450
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Speaker 5: so it'll be hard for him to get that one

451
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Speaker 5: hundred plus. That's how I see it.

452
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, with it with his kicking, I just think

453
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Speaker 4: about it as an inside midfielder. That's a harder role

454
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Speaker 4: to get decent kicks in and to hit targets in

455
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Speaker 4: than playing and sort of that outside like he did

456
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Speaker 4: at the Bulldogs. So who knows, maybe he'll turn his

457
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 4: kicking around, but yeah, it hasn't been pretty to this point.

458
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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think as makes a really good point too.

459
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Speaker 4: The Cats and never afraid to manage players, especially like

460
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 4: they're more experienced players. They often sub Dangerfield out, or

461
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 4: they'll Subguthrie out late in the game just to limit

462
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Speaker 4: their minutes and know that there's bigger challenges coming up.

463
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Speaker 4: And it wouldn't surprise you after so long out of

464
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Speaker 4: the game. If the Smith, let's say they're miles ahead

465
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Speaker 4: in round two or round three. I haven't looked at

466
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 4: the boys closely enough to know if they're playing in

467
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 4: those rounds, but it wouldn't surprise you if Scott just

468
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 4: gave him a tap and say, look, mate, have the

469
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Speaker 4: last fifteen minutes on the bench and have a bit

470
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Speaker 4: of a rest, and that potentially limited scoring as well.

471
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he's a great price. I'm still

472
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Speaker 4: going to pick him, but there's some definite, sort of

473
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: potential red flags there.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's not playing in round three, and

475
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Speaker 1: that's another reason you might think about potentially passing on

476
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Speaker 1: him if you can't feed them all in, because yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: we do have a lot of players potentially missing that round,

478
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Speaker 1: so they could sort of solve a little bit of

479
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: a problem if you don't pick Bailey Smith in the

480
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Speaker 1: Ford line. But Chloe, what about the other ex dog

481
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: Jack McCrae has gone to the Saints. Surely there's no

482
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Speaker 1: doubts over his role down at Maravin.

483
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Speaker 3: No doubts he's at sixty one percent owned. I'm not

484
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Speaker 3: quite sure why that isn't telling me that he is

485
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent owned, because I've heard Dossie said a

486
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: couple of times over on the lair and number one

487
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: lock of of this year price only seventy three, and

488
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 3: we just how consistent has he been apart from last year? Really,

489
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: how can you argue with that consistency?

490
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Speaker 5: Thirty?

491
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Speaker 4: Like people are idiots? Lost thirty one percent anyway? Like Stio,

492
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Speaker 4: I don't see him.

493
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Speaker 3: Being thirty being an issue. Is he thirty one long

494
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: turn thirty?

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

496
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Speaker 3: I don't think it matters anyway, though, because you know,

497
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: I can't be saying that that's old, because that means

498
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: that Cryps' Crips is getting old, and then I have

499
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Speaker 3: to start to be concerned about that. So no, yeah,

500
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: some of the numbers just just speak for themselves. So

501
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three was, obviously everybody knows this already his

502
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: lowest average since his debut season in twenty thirteen. So

503
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Speaker 3: being priced at that seventy three price point, I think

504
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: he's just going to be able to smash that pretty easily.

505
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: It is a bit of pressure to put on him

506
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: at that price to expect a one hundred plus average,

507
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: but I think he's definitely capable of that, and he's

508
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: the kind of player that Saint Kilda have been crying

509
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 3: out for. And then when Matta's Philippo went down, I

510
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: guess that just even increases that responsibility too for him.

511
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't have any concerns at all.

512
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: We had twelve percent CBA's last year and this year,

513
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's Jack Steele and then him, wouldn't you say?

514
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a very similar player to Matt Crouch. If

515
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 5: you ever watched Matt Crouch, he'll just get that ball

516
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 5: all the time. Does a loose ball get all the time?

517
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: He just scues for fun, We'll get the ball hand

518
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 5: passed because his hand pass is are there. The accurate

519
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 5: he kicks are accurate, he tackles it. He has no

520
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 5: flaws except Bevo was his floors. So it doesn't happen

521
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 5: this year. So hopefully Ryan or Lyon can keep him

522
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 5: in the midfield under and he has to there's nobody else.

523
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 5: So I can see a one ten plus because as

524
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 5: Chloe mentioned, ninety nine was his worst average and he

525
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 5: was playing forward, so imagine when he plays in their midfield.

526
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: So I can see you won ten plus.

527
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love love Jack McCrae.

528
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: The next few names are a bit more interesting because

529
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people We've got a couple

530
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: here that are maybe going antipod on Bailey Smith, but

531
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people looking in Smith, Daniel and McCrae.

532
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: But then you've got two or three other really interesting

533
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: names around that.

534
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Sort of three hundred k price bracket.

535
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: Unfortunately no Mitayos Philipoo for the first part of the

536
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: season anyway. But Luke Parker at three hundred and forty

537
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: three k twenty three percent owned Riley Sanders we've mentioned

538
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: briefly three hundred and thirty nine k at seventeen percent.

539
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Shae Bolton was in my team for a little while

540
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: twelve percent. He's over the four hundred k maup. But

541
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: of these guys, can we can we fit in another

542
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: one tim? Or are we moving down to the rookies now?

543
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm well and truly not sold on Luke Parker.

544
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: I saw him going into North Melbourne to play a

545
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: lot more kind of half forward, bit of a goalkicker,

546
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 4: kicked twenty twenty five goals and inching in the midfield.

547
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 4: Maybe play ten or twenty percent midfield. Don't see how

548
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: he gets this regular midfield time that people are talking

549
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: about when when they've got a full complement of midfielders anyway,

550
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 4: So George Wardlowd no guarantee to be there around one

551
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: because he's had his injury issues, but you've got him,

552
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: like you've got alder Yu, You've got Sheesel who's the midfielder.

553
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 4: Now there's your best three midfield Luke Parker's not in

554
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: that and then you're going down to You would expect

555
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: that Clarko wants to expose Fino Sullivan at some point

556
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 4: because he's going to be a midfielder. He's not just

557
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: going to play and a wing his whole career, so

558
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 4: he'll play cbas at some point. Colby Mckerche's in that

559
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: mix as well, Joyce Simpkins in that mix. Like there's

560
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 4: a hell of a lot of midfielders at North Melbourne

561
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 4: and they just they just keep drafting midfielders. So that's

562
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: a whole other discussion point. But I think Luke Parker's

563
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: midfield times maybe not going to be as high as

564
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: some people are hoping for. And I know that there's

565
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: been good signs in pre season that it might be

566
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: up there, but yeah, I'm not as bullish on him

567
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: playing as high at midfield. Do I think he's underpriced, Yes,

568
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: but I probably think he's underpriced by ten or fifteen points.

569
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't think he's underpriced by thirty points and suddenly

570
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: going to go back to scoring hundreds. So yeah, wishing

571
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: wishing well, and I think I think it'd be a

572
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: decent pick for his price. But is he top six?

573
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think he's more sort of

574
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: in that top ten top twelve range.

575
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he everaged ninety six or more for ten years

576
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: in a row before last year when he averaged seventy one,

577
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: when he had he already played seven games, broke his arm,

578
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, got suspended in the VFL.

579
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: Everything kind of went off the.

580
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: Right, playing the team that won a lot more games

581
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: in North Melbourne as well to attract a lot more

582
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 4: super Coach points. So I just don't know. I think

583
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 4: there's a lot of rules in that team that are

584
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: going to take points off him as well. How many

585
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: of she like, if they're not winning a lot of games,

586
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: and let's say they win six to eight games this year,

587
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: how many of cheesel Ldu mckircher Cherry, who's scored one

588
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty points every week. How many of these

589
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: guys plus Parker can be putting up one hundreds, hundred

590
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 4: and twenty. There's only so many points that are going

591
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 4: to go to losing teams.

592
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: I don't have the stats in front of me, Tim,

593
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 3: but I know that last year, unless I'm making this up,

594
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: it felt like North Melbourne, despite losing, would still have

595
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: a relatively high time in possession, and they did like

596
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: to pass the ball around to each other a lot

597
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 3: by foot and by hand, which we know that they

598
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: have done off their back line for a fair while,

599
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: which has always been obviously not Parker's roll but a

600
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: good scoring role at the ruse. But I think that

601
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: that could help his scoring, the way that they like

602
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: to share the ball around and just with that time

603
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: in possession. This is just anecdotal evidence. As I said,

604
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: I don't have any stats, but I think there were

605
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: plenty of games where it was kind of that mid

606
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: forward connection that they were really lacking, so they would

607
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: have plenty of the ballers just every time they would

608
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: go into that forward line. You know, they couldn't really score,

609
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 3: but I think that they still had a decent time

610
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: in possession. As I said, don't have it in front

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: of me. But that is just kind of what I witnessed.

612
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: I think with Parker in particular, you know, he's gone

613
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 3: in there for some experience as well, right, so they

614
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have the most experienced midfield. I think they

615
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: would love to have him running around in there too,

616
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: not just kind of helping out the younger guys on

617
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: the sidelines, but also leading from the front on the field. Obviously,

618
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: he won't play, you know, a massive amount of time

619
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: in the middle like someone like a Jack McCrae, but

620
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: I think it will still be decent enough and he

621
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: can impact going forward to was one of their best

622
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: players really in the Grand Final in my opinion. So yeah,

623
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm pretty bullish on him. He's in

624
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: my team at the moment, hoping that he could get

625
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: to ninety plus and then anything above that would be great.

626
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: I'll mattually with chlothe on this one. Okay, sorry Tim,

627
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: but I'm with Chloe on this one. And the way

628
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: I see it, Okay, North Melbourne hard bodied, we can

629
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 5: all those midfielders. Okay, you mentioned all those midfielders. We're

630
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: talking about hard bodied midfielders now, and the main one

631
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: is gone World War he was a machine. He's gone. Okay,

632
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: he'll come back. But until he back, it's going to

633
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: be Parker's job to get that hard ball and pass

634
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: it off to these players that you were mentioning. Because

635
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: players like that, they don't want to I mean, shoes

636
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: Als is a good boy, okay, and he's a strong boy,

637
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 5: but he's not a strong They don't want to hurt him. Okay,

638
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: that don't want If someone's going to get hurts to

639
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: be Parker, and he's going to be. He's going to

640
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: be that bull getting that hard ball out. So I

641
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 5: could see Parker at least for the first four or

642
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: five rounds until Warmer comes back, going maybe at nineteen

643
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: ninety five. Here's here's what we call a stepping star. Okay,

644
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 5: so Parker is my ticket to get ranking. So if

645
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 5: Parker from three fifty K can go to four fifty K,

646
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: then with that extra fifty k on top, I'll just

647
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: get ranking. So he's like a stepping star.

648
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind that. So what about Sanders head?

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Does he fit into the planes?

650
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: With Sanders? I've actually did a review for him and

651
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 5: I actually love him, love his role now because I

652
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: looked at North Sorry, at the Western Bulldogs midfield, they've

653
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: got nobody. Okay, you look at liber Okay, now Liba

654
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: maybe get that, but he's had all these concussion issues,

655
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: so I think you're gonna make him. You know, he's

656
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: not gonna Maybe he'll spend time in there, all right,

657
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: but with tra law outs, you need that player on

658
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 5: the outside to pass to give it to. Okay, And

659
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 5: now that they've got they got this young boy with him.

660
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: Last year he actually averaged ninety as a midfielder and

661
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 5: and he hardly played there, so I can see him.

662
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 5: He's probably the fourth or fifth midfielder maybe the fourth

663
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 5: at North mil at the Dogs right now, and I

664
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 5: can see him going at ninety if he's given the

665
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: time by Bever. Bever looks after him. So we've got

666
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 5: the Bev factor. It's a gamble, a huge gamble. He's

667
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: also a stepping stone, okay, again, another one that's not

668
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: a keeper. But you get upgrading maybe maybe to Patraca.

669
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 5: When Patraka gets Afford DPP you just like switch. So

670
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: he's going to be another upgrade target, just as a

671
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: stipping stone for now.

672
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: But so Sir Riley Sanders Obviously, we're talking about three

673
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: thirty nine k a forward mid He's in seventeen percent

674
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: of team, so there's a bit of love out there

675
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: for him, definitely. The Dogs are giving him some love

676
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: on their social accounts over the preseason. He's looking pretty

677
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: good in some of their match simulations. So we'll see

678
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: what happens when we get some real practice matches. I

679
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: think they play on the weekend, so it'd be great

680
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: to have a look at him. He was pick six

681
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three draft obviously, so this is

682
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: only his second year, but he averaged sixty three last year.

683
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: He was the sub four times.

684
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: They put him back to the VFL and he just

685
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: put up absolutely monster numbers, and yeah, trula or obviously

686
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: creates a bit of an opening in the midfield, but yeah,

687
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: you did mention the Bevo factor. So it's just, you know,

688
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: how brave are we to go there?

689
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Tim? Is he in your team?

690
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: He's been in and out, and yeah, it's predominantly down

691
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: to that Luke Beverage factor. And then Brendon lad comes

692
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: out and says that they want all their players to

693
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: have flexibility and that they see Sanders as a guy

694
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: who can go to our forward and have an impact

695
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: and that's less than idea year. Assistant coaches saying stuff

696
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: like that, but maybe they're just red hearings and they're

697
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: trying to throw us off. I think with these guys

698
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: like Parker and sand is just because of their price,

699
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: Like ABS said that they don't have to do a

700
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: lot in the couple of preseason games that we might

701
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: see to convince us to start them, Like we don't

702
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: want to be too reactive to what we see over

703
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: a couple of games, but at their price, Like at

704
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: the worst case scenario for us, if they say start slowly,

705
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: they're only going to need one or two games to

706
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: spike make that eighty to one hundred K that ABS

707
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 4: is talking about to turn them into stepping stones, and

708
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: then their year avenue to a couple of big premiums.

709
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, both of those guys, they're not

710
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: in my team at the moment, but if I see

711
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: even a slight sign that there's an increasing midfield time

712
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: or sort of a good role there, I'll probably end

713
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: up with them in my team to start with.

714
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think all of these guys are

715
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: probably going to outscore what their priced at it's just

716
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: a matter of by how much and how quickly and

717
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: what you can do with them. And obviously, yeah, Abs

718
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: as a plan for he's going to do with all

719
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: of these guys. But unless there's anyone else in that

720
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: sort of mid price bracket that I've missed, if we

721
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: go down to the bit of rookie chat to finish off,

722
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of names here that I find really interesting,

723
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: he could could potentially be good picks for us out

724
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: of all that bracket. Chloe, Hu do you like at

725
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: the at the moment from a rookie point of view?

726
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: In the forward line?

727
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: I do have Elijah Hewitt at the moment, so he

728
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: did not play last year, and I'm pretty keen on

729
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: him this year as long as he's able to keep

730
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: those injury woes behind him. I'm sure DOSSI would have

731
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: a lot more knowledge about him than I myself would,

732
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: But I've just heard good things about him and playing

733
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: midfield minutes apparently, So that's what we love, isn't it?

734
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes? One percent? Abs, who are here? Who's at the

735
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: top of your well? Have you got Elijah Hewitt? And

736
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: who else do you like?

737
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: Well? Davidson? But before I mentioned Davidson. There's another young

738
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: boy that everyone's talking about. I don't know much about him,

739
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 5: so maybe you guys can help me out here. But

740
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: it's marriage at West Coast. His price around about two

741
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: fifty K from what my friends are telling me now, right,

742
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: think my friends Okay, they're telling me that he's taking

743
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 5: the kickings. Now obviously it's probably in a practice game.

744
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: I've seen some pharos of him. He looks like the

745
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: whole cook. He looks as big as me. Okay, so

746
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: he's pretty strong, but I'm not sure what he can score.

747
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 5: Is he going to be another look the fish, packed

748
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: the ball, run get the ball? Is he going to

749
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 5: be one of these big scorers? So it's going to

750
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 5: be interesting to watch him in the preseason team.

751
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to jump in there

752
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: because you were keen on another I think West Coast

753
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: player around a similar price range.

754
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeahs a couple of Eagles that I like. Marriage is

755
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: good shit. I sort of have my doubt about how

756
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: many kickings Jeremy McGovern's going to let him take, though,

757
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: Like I've just absolutely ate all of them up last year,

758
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: and I reckon at some point he's just going to

759
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: go on the senior player here. I'm going to pull

760
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: rank on one of the kickouts, so that'll be an

761
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: interesting watch during the season. But yeah, I'm keen to

762
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: say Jack Hutchinson. He's been the mid season drafter. He've

763
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: been training on a wing from all reports, so it

764
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: looks like he's going to play a bit further up

765
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: the ground than where he was initially drafted to play

766
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: under Andrew McWalter. He's only one percent owned at the moment,

767
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: and I guess if we look at his most recent adding,

768
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: it was against Geelong in a pretty heavy loss in

769
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: round twenty four and Jared Schofield stuck him in the midfield.

770
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: It's got one hundred and two super coach playing as

771
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: a midfielder. He had twenty four disposals and six clearances.

772
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: So the signs are there that when he plays a

773
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: bit further up the ground obviously a mature age guy

774
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: being drafted out of the VFL where he was playing

775
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: for Collingwood, that he could potentially be one that is

776
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: sort of well below his price. I can see him

777
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: averaging sort of seventy to eighty playing on that wing

778
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 4: and maybe potentially even a bit of inside mid time

779
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: as well. So yeah, he's another Eagle that I've definitely

780
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: got my own.

781
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: Can I just Devil's advocate for a second. Sorry?

782
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes.

783
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: With Hutchison, I mean I don't know. I will admit

784
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: that I don't know a heap about him, but I

785
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: suppose we are just really going off one really good

786
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: score at his price is obviously not a lot to lose.

787
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: But I remember watching that game and it was not

788
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: at all close to one of the best games I

789
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: saw the year. I would almost say it was one

790
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: of the worst, apart from Carton losing of course, so

791
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: it's almost like maybe Geelong took their foot off the

792
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 3: pedal for him to be able to score that much.

793
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: And then Midfield, obviously we know is pretty easy to

794
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: score against, at least it was last year to a

795
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: certain extent, so I would just bear that in mind

796
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: when looking at him.

797
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 4: And obviously ready to a round twenty four blowyer. It's

798
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: a fair yea.

799
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: And also with these two fifty K players, which again

800
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: goes to my marriage pick, you want them to score

801
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: minimum eighty to make that one fifty k and anything

802
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: below that and it's a loss. Plus you're losing one

803
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: hundred k. Sorry, what my TV is going off?

804
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 4: All right?

805
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 5: Plus you're losing one fifty one hundred k from uprunning

806
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: another player because you've spent so much only on one

807
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: player just to make one fifty k extra, That one

808
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: hundred k you could have spent elsewhere goes missing. So

809
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: it sort of put your team down. Unless this player,

810
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: Yet you paid two fifty k for can go, I'd

811
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 5: say ninety would be the right right amount. Even eighty

812
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 5: is not enough? How do you feel about that?

813
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: But this is so, this is that whole debate al

814
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: that we've been having in recent years of like super

815
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: Coat trending more towards players play behind the ball as

816
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 4: opposed to like looking for more midfield minutes. So you've

817
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: got Hutchinson that drafted as a forward, looks like he's

818
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: going to play more on a wing, maybe some inside

819
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: mid marriage at pretty much the same price going to

820
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: play behind the ball. I think if it came down

821
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: to picking one of those two, you'd almost go for

822
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: the player that plays behind the footy. Neil, when you

823
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: use the ball well, going to get a few intercepts,

824
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: going to get a lot of kick ins like that,

825
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: ticks a lot of boxes free guys. The kick out

826
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: eighty that Abs talks about, yeah.

827
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Kicking if you if you know that he's getting some

828
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: kick ins, that's you know, sort of a bit of

829
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: a safety net really that at least it gives you

830
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: a bit of something to build on every week. Whereas

831
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: who knows with the midfield and has Covie sort of

832
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: touched on the Eagles, how competitive the Eagles it is

833
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: going to be most weeks is a is.

834
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: A pretty big question mark.

835
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned another miture age of Creed Sam Davidson as

836
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: came on him.

837
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, well he's going to play in the wing

838
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 5: from what I'm hearing, also forward forward. He's very quick,

839
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 5: he's very agile. English if you played for Richmond, maybe

840
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 5: he can. But I'm hearing he's gonna play wing half forward.

841
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: That's what. That's what. There's the actually the Wolf comedies,

842
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: So the Wolf and from all reports he's doing really

843
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: well and he's going to play round one from what

844
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: I'm hearing. So he's a lock.

845
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like him. I like him as well

846
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: on the bench obviously when the was it for the

847
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: girl round medal? Is going another name in there too

848
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: in the in the VFL and the last year for

849
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: the best most promising young player in the very film.

850
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 4: Would Mitchell in The Father Glory and Chill Middle Sorry

851
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: Awthorn coach.

852
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, NEI look at the past winners of that and

853
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like Luke, Ryan, Nick Newman, Sam Close. So yeah,

854
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: they've all got had a pretty good super coach pedigree.

855
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: So hopefully Bevo gives.

856
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: Him a run in.

857
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: To me, he just seems like Bevo loves his Anthony Scott's,

858
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: He's Lucky McNeil, the sort of guys out of the VFL,

859
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: and he plays them and gives them a role.

860
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: So hopefully.

861
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: You're just about guaranteed twenty games at the West Walls.

862
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. So that's Bevo.

863
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, we know Bevo has he's quirks, but that's

864
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: one thing we can usually rely on him for. So yeah,

865
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: I've definitely got Sam Davidson in my full line and

866
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: potentially someone you could start on field. We'll see see

867
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: how he goes in the preseason. What about Isaac Kaco,

868
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: who's picked thirteen in the draft last year, one hundred

869
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: and forty nine k so, you know, not not as

870
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: cheap as some of these other guys. Forward mid though

871
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: he's fifty percent owned. And the thing I just do

872
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: like about him is I think given that Esen have

873
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: been screaming out for a play like this for a

874
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: long time, I just think he's going to play every

875
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: week and hopefully won't be the sub there.

876
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, well we'll get some boalatile scores, won't

877
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: we Coloen abs because he's a small forward and who

878
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: knows how and then to go This year they've sort

879
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 4: of seemingly gone back, not back to the drawing board

880
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: a little bit, but they seem happy to take a

881
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 4: couple of steps back to potentially sort of then launch

882
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 4: and make themselves a premiership contender. So I'm sure there's

883
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: going to be games where he scores thirty or forty

884
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: but looks really exciting and doesn't just rely on goals

885
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: from all we here to score points as well, and

886
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: with the DPP, I think he's a pretty easy selection.

887
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: With the doc forward.

888
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: It's also a matter of team balance because finding that

889
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 5: one forty k sometimes can be the hardest thing to do, Like,

890
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: I can't find it. I can't even find she's nearly

891
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: one fifty k. Yeah, so to pay one forty nine

892
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: k one fifty K and if he's going to score

893
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: forties and thirties, maybe a couple of odds sixty or seventy.

894
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: If there are better options, I'd go for the better options,

895
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: to be honest, because it's a lot of money to spend,

896
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: and at apps Magic we're pretty tight. We don't want

897
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 5: to much special the cash.

898
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have him in my team either at

899
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: the moment, mainly for that same reason. But there is

900
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: a lot to love about him, especially the DPP, but

901
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: the price is just yeah, it's a bit awkward for

902
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: me at the moment. I am in terms of my

903
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: whole team structure. I'm still weighing up whether it is

904
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: worth spending more money on my bench or not at

905
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: the moment. But I'm trying to strip it back a

906
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: bit at the moment to get those points on field.

907
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: But I guess the benefit of someone like a CaCO

908
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: is that he's definitely going to play at Essendon, So

909
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: especially when you get to the buy arounds, it's always

910
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: good to know that you've got some warm bodies there

911
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: or even just some cash generation waiting on the sidelines

912
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: for you. But yeah, I'm not expecting pretty much what

913
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: you said Tim, I'm not expecting really consistent scoring from

914
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: him just based on his role.

915
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: He went, so you could potentially cop one Pristoise as

916
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: well and get him in after that if he had

917
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: started really well. And let's say I know the surround

918
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: Ziero factors into the price changes, don't actually we don't

919
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: count it in super Coach, so you get a look

920
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: at him as well, I think playing round zero, so

921
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: pretty easy one if you want to sit and wait

922
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: and make a judgment call after the buye in round

923
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: four for us and then.

924
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean he could be Andy Lupol on that on

925
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that by around if we've still got most of our

926
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: players playing. But because losing him from your best A

927
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: team's probably not a big hit. But whether that's where

928
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: it's spending the extra money for, I mean, Ahabs, who

929
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: have you found?

930
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Who's who's a bit cheaper than that? Who? I've found

931
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: a bench.

932
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: I've been shopping at Victorian Market this morning and I've

933
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: sort of found one, but I'm not sure if he's

934
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: going to play or not. It's from Saint Kilda and

935
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 5: it's a tall defender in Barrett's and now I'm not

936
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: sure how there's until the back line stocks are at

937
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: the moment, but if any tall man goes down, Barrett

938
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: possibly could go in. I've been watching a bit of

939
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: Saints TV, so it's sort of listening to all the

940
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: goss and they're highly praising Barrett. But he's not going

941
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: to be a scorer either, so probably going to score

942
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: as maybe fifty or sixty. But he's only one thirteen K.

943
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: But he's only going to be on the watch list

944
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: if you play, so he's probably needing an injury to

945
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: happen and come in.

946
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: Who are you talking about it? I'm not even familiar

947
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: with James James Barrett.

948
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, second or third round draft e last year. Have

949
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: just plucked one from absolutely nowhere.

950
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that he would play, if I'm being honest,

951
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: but if you've heard word otherwise, then I would definitely

952
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: back that in.

953
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: That'd be a good segment. Now, just a random pick.

954
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's out there.

955
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: I had to go to Aisle Freeingly Victorian Market to

956
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: find him, right.

957
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: It has been another one who's.

958
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: Middle all of audio apps. We just wind him amongst

959
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: all the garden supplies and the toilet trees and everything

960
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: else that are just throwing together.

961
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean another one who's a forward in Super Coacho

962
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: has been talked about it might play a bit of

963
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: Defense's Connor Stone at the Giants high draft pick from

964
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: a couple years ago, hasn't played too many games.

965
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: It has been the sub a lot, I think.

966
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't essinate into him in the trade

967
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: period and the Giant didn't want to let him go,

968
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: So yeah.

969
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: They maybe tells you something.

970
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: And they've had a lot of outs there at GWS,

971
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: so maybe there's a role for him in defense.

972
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Well, he's been training there pretty much all year and

973
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: it had a little article about him. You might have

974
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: read one of your posts, So there's a little article

975
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: about him and he was saying that he's been practicing

976
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: a new role and he's pretty much GWS has lost

977
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 5: a few defenders, so I'd say he's a big chance.

978
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 5: But they do have a bit of competition there, so

979
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: there's another player that's campaining our back lines that might

980
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: get that spot. So it depends which one they picked.

981
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: I reckon. If you're shopping in that one thirteen k

982
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: price range out you're probably looking at like an Aiden

983
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: Johnson from Melbourne Mature Agia that comes in from Whereby

984
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: and j Class reported a few times during this preseason

985
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: that he's right in the mix for round one to

986
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: the White potentially partner Jacob van Royen up forward for

987
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: the d so you want to keep him in mind.

988
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 4: And the word out of Arbor Street's pretty promising about

989
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: Matt Whitlock as well. Like they moved around to pieces,

990
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: didn't they in the draft I think to get him

991
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: into their team, so clearly they rate him pretty highly.

992
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: And I think he's been playing in defense since he's

993
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: still a young tall so we might not see him

994
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: early on, but definitely one to keep in mind for

995
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: some stage during the year too. He's also only one

996
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: thirteen k so he might be another one to consider

997
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: if he impresses during the preseason.

998
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: And he's a deaf forward, which has become a bit

999
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: of a recent super Coat tradition to pick a North

1000
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Melbourne deaf forward around this year, but has.

1001
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: Been so many below that, like job Shanahan apparently going okay,

1002
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 4: but does he start at West Coast? Wouldn't have thought,

1003
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: so see a few people picking Tom Simms as well,

1004
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: Like I know that Richmond is really lacking in bodies,

1005
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 4: but he's not going to play early. Is he like,

1006
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: if you're picking, he's probably picking him.

1007
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 3: I think he's on people's rock benches, which I don't

1008
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: know where they've got Harry Boyd, but I think just

1009
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: in terms of that DPP, he's probably people's What do.

1010
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: You guys think about Neil Erasmus because I just and

1011
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: he's a similar price, so he's about five k more

1012
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: than the guys we're talking about. I just cannot get

1013
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: around this. So justin long you Are has shown in

1014
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: the last couple of years he has a very set

1015
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: preferred midfield mix that he goes to in almost every game.

1016
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 4: He goes a bray Shaw, he goes the wrong and

1017
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: now he goes to Hayden Young. Now he's in there

1018
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: full time, And why wouldn't you go to those three

1019
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: because they're all in probably the best twenty or thirty

1020
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: midfielders in the colm. So prefers those three to start.

1021
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: Then it was someone like Fife goes in here, who

1022
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: knows how much longer his time as part of that

1023
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: midfield mix is there. But you've got Shaye Bolton, who

1024
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: he assume is going to go in there at some point.

1025
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: Switch Kowski does a bit of midfield work as well.

1026
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: I feel like a boy Maddi Johnson, Yeah, Maddi Johnson

1027
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: as well that I know our friend Demo super Coach

1028
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: rates very highly. So I just think neither Asthmas are

1029
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: so far down that midfield pecking order, and as good

1030
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: as his Waffle final series was, and we all want

1031
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: to sort of jump on the most recent performances that

1032
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: we've seen from a player. I think best case scenario

1033
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: is in the team it's sort of half forward, and

1034
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything from him yet to suggest that

1035
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: he's the type of guy that plays that he is

1036
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: going to score well enough playing in a variety of roles.

1037
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: I think we need him playing as a center bout

1038
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: to midfielder if he's going to score well. And even

1039
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 4: then when he had I think there was a game

1040
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: late in the season where he had fifty cbas last

1041
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 4: year and he scored forty odd super Coach, so it

1042
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily the most exciting performance anyway. So yeah, I

1043
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: just that's that's one selection I think people are getting

1044
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: wrong at the moment.

1045
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I actually agree with you. I don't I

1046
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: can't even see Bolton getting in that midfield the way

1047
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 5: structed their midfield, only the three or four players, and

1048
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: it's about it.

1049
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Absolutly, they just go to those big three.

1050
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: They all play about ninety per game time, apart from

1051
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 4: Hayden Young when he gets his rest every now and again.

1052
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, bray Sure and so wrong are in there

1053
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: pretty much all the time. And Neil Rasmus isn't going

1054
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: to shift those guys out. We're talking about pretending all

1055
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: Australian midfield as he is, So is it best a

1056
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: fourth or fifth midfielder and probably further down the pecking

1057
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: order than that.

1058
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: And they brought Murphy Reid in as well, who I

1059
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: haven't heard heaps about in the preseason, but you would

1060
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: presume in look looking in the long term picture that

1061
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 3: they would probably prefer to add someone like him into

1062
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: the midfield.

1063
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Or Jackson's trainings in midfields apart from a part of

1064
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: his rock work, like he's spent time trainings in midfielder two.

1065
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: So they're clearly looking at to the other potential options

1066
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 4: to freshen up their midfield as well, and I don't

1067
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: think Erasmus is certainly the answer. So I hope, I

1068
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: hope he goes well and I hope it works out

1069
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: for the people that pick him, but the gut feelers

1070
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: he might be one of those guys. It's like a

1071
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: great waffle play. Might be one of those like in betweens.

1072
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: And maybe it's based on role. Maybe if he went

1073
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: into another team and was playing as a center amount

1074
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: of midfielder, he'd be great and he would score that

1075
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: eighty or ninety that we hope, but I just can't

1076
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 4: see it happening at Frio.

1077
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like I agree a big sub risk

1078
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: if he does play too, which that as well a

1079
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: few times last year. A couple of names that we

1080
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned that we should just quickly touch on before

1081
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: we wrap things up, but sort of do qualify in

1082
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the rookie category even though they're obviously much older. Tom

1083
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: Lynch is in thirty one percent of teams a one

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00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three thousand dollars or just over and

1085
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Sam pel Pepper is in twenty one percent of teams.

1086
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: He's one hundred and eighty k as well, both forwards

1087
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: in Super Coach Any interest in these guys.

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Speaker 5: It's the price their top shelf. I go to bottom shelves,

1089
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Speaker 5: so I can't afford it. It's impossible because you've got

1090
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Speaker 5: at one hundred and eighty K. If I go to

1091
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 5: these gun midfielders, you can get anyone that that's going

1092
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 5: to be a star for one hundred and eighty K.

1093
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: These these two, what are they going to aver reach?

1094
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: I mean, pal Pepper, is he going to play in

1095
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: the midfield? We can't even We're trying to squeeze in

1096
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 5: all these midfielders at Port Adelaide as well, they got

1097
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 5: the same problem he went. He could be a sub

1098
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 5: risk with we're talking about Lynch. He's just had his

1099
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: great grandchild, his grandpa. Okay, so it's very old. So

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Speaker 5: I can't see Lynch kicking a bag of seven eight goals.

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00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: He's not playing for the premiership team. He's playing for

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00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: a team that's Hardy're going to get the ball down there.

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00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: So he loves he loves playing, he loves playing against Carton.

1104
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: He's always got to be him and Dusty. You've always

1105
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: got big round ones in the.

1106
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Speaker 3: He will definitely whip out a big game for Round one.

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00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: But I think the main thing ol you could probably

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00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: speak to this a bit more, but I mean, I

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00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: guess I said something similar with North it was maybe

1110
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: not too as big of an extent with Richmond, but

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00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: I think they definitely had the problem last year of

1112
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: getting the ball forward and then just losing possession because

1113
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: they had nowhere to go. So I think there's been

1114
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: a bit of progression as well, and some of those

1115
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 3: are thinking players like a Seth Cambler, a Ryan Mansell

1116
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: that I think Tom Lynch will be able to get

1117
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: the ball even if he's literally just not running around

1118
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: very much, kind of just standing still. I think he

1119
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: has a couple of bags in him. He's in my

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Speaker 3: team at the moment, but I totally say what you

1121
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: mean about him not being the player that he used to.

1122
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if he gets on the park, that's a

1123
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: win at this point, right. So I think he definitely

1124
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: has some of those big scores in him, but he

1125
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: will if you're buying him, expect some low ones too,

1126
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Speaker 3: I would.

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00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Say, right yeah, And it will be timing, like you

1128
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: need him to get maybe three good ones in a

1129
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: row and you know, make a bit of money and

1130
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: then you could probably offload him. And you know, if

1131
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: you look at response drawer and every game seems hard

1132
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: because we're not very good.

1133
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 5: If he kicks three big ones in a row. Sell

1134
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: him straight away. They've done his estate. Yeah, one hundred

1135
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: k cash. You gotta get rid of him because it's

1136
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: going to go back down again.

1137
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: It could have been said about Coco though, So he

1138
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: has he has, you don't start him. He has one

1139
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: big game and then you go, Okay, there's the cash

1140
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: gen starting. So I'm prepared to burn a trade to

1141
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: get him in there, But then I know that the

1142
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 4: risk is that he then comes out scores twenty the

1143
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 4: next week. So yeah, you want to try and ride

1144
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 4: that cash train, but yeah, maybe that is a bit risky.

1145
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't think scoring twenty is the risk guy that

1146
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 3: with him. I think it's just like not playing injured.

1147
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1148
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think in the preseason, if obviously we

1149
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: want to see him out there. He did have a

1150
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: really good preseason up until a week or two ago when

1151
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: he copped I think it's like a knee to the head.

1152
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: That training might have been from Jacob.

1153
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Because he's keeping one of them big things he's done

1154
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: since he's comes to Richmond. But hopefully that only is

1155
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: a little minor setback and we get Actually, I'd love

1156
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: to have a look at him and you know the

1157
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: ame series or whatever we have now and ideally to

1158
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: close and you'd want him sort of playing center half

1159
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: forward and you know, the long kick down the line

1160
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: he's the one contesting on the wing or you know,

1161
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: half forward, that kind of thing. If he's stuck in

1162
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: the goal square, it could be a very long year, because, yeah,

1163
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: it's going to be a struggle for the Twigs this year,

1164
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: I think. But Tim, you put out on Twitter that

1165
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about forwards and you've got

1166
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: a few replies, was there any other players there that

1167
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: you think we can touch on before we wrap things up?

1168
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 4: A couple of good questions about Hugo Garcia, your boy

1169
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 4: al and the Saints giving his reason to be bullish

1170
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: about him as well. I think they put up a

1171
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: social media post a couple of days before we recorded

1172
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: this talking about Hugo and his tackles and showing that

1173
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 4: he's bulked up a bit as well, which you would

1174
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: expect from a young player that's spent a summer in

1175
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: the gym. So we know that when he came on

1176
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 4: his like his points per minute were really good last

1177
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 4: year and then just unfortunately, for one reason or another

1178
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 4: ross lyone decided that he was better to spend most

1179
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: of the second half of the season at Sandringham, so

1180
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: hopefully he can break in and be a regular in

1181
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: the twenty three. And you'd think with some of the

1182
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: injuries already around Saint Kilda that, especially if some of

1183
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: these midfielders aren't right to go in round one, that

1184
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: Garcia is the type of guy that could potentially break

1185
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: in and play a bit half forward and potentially get

1186
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 4: some midfield time as well. So he's again we're talking

1187
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: about one eighty k guys maybe being a bit too expensive.

1188
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: He's about to forty five I think, so he's exactly

1189
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 4: great price. So if you're picking him, you're not picking Hulcher,

1190
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 4: Cent or Marrick like you're picking one of those three probably.

1191
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, Garcia, we know it takes a lot of

1192
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: boxing to tackles, a lot, wins his own ball, kicked

1193
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: a few goals as well, so it looks an exciting prospect,

1194
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: but I think his price is probably going to be

1195
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: a bit awkward unless he's and sixty seventy eighty midfielder

1196
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: in the preseason and then we can think seriously about him.

1197
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. We need to need to see

1198
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: the role for sure, anyone else. I do like him

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00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: though as a player.

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00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: I think i'd be you're talking about him happy for.

1201
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: The Saints to give him more of a crackers. Yeah.

1202
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: What he showed last year was pretty good in just

1203
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: very small doses.

1204
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 5: Have we mentioned that Adelaide rookie what's his.

1205
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: Name, Barry, very Barry.

1206
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: We know we haven't yet, but he's definitely on the

1207
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: radar for sure.

1208
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1209
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: I think he was pink up in the most recent session,

1210
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: which is probably just that, as Fantom says, like, we

1211
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: panic a lot at this time of year over players

1212
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 4: on light duties and stuff. But he's been there for

1213
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 4: a couple of months. He's not a surprise to see

1214
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 4: a draft on white duties into his first preseason. The

1215
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: other bottle for me is Matt Jefferson, who was in

1216
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: the A team at Melbourne training at the most recent session.

1217
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 4: Apologies if you're listening to this a bit close to

1218
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 4: the season, but yeah, one of the most recent sessions

1219
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 4: in early fab so I spoke about Aiden Johnson and

1220
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: he's probably in what direct competition with Jefferson for a

1221
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: spot to partner Jacob ben Roy and in the Deez

1222
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 4: attack as well, and Jefferson might just have edged ahead.

1223
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 4: So he's another one worth considering to. He hicked twenty

1224
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 4: seven goals in nineteen VFL games last year, so worth

1225
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on too.

1226
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 5: What's jeff Let me look, she's cheap one nineteen.

1227
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 4: I think he's a better chance than James Barrett. Forwards

1228
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: meant to be easy. Forwards meant to be easy. We're

1229
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 4: meant to be able to pick five big dogs a rookie,

1230
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 4: and that would do it. But there's a lot This

1231
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: Philippoo thing is just completely made us rethink, hasn't it.

1232
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing how one injury can sort of

1233
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: completely change your plans.

1234
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we are blessed this year that we've

1235
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: got all these cheap forwards that sort of made up

1236
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 5: for all these rookies that we don't have to have

1237
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 5: so sort of fill up our lines with all these

1238
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 5: cheap os, which is a good thing sometimes.

1239
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1240
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing that sort of yeah thrown

1241
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: me a little bit, as I've mentioned, is just I

1242
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: think there's actually quite a lot of good rookies here

1243
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: and just see how they come along in other parts

1244
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: of the ground. And if if we don't get Josh

1245
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: Milly and these sort of guys, you know, if Lee

1246
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Boy Ashcroft is not ready round one, then maybe we

1247
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: need to load up in the forward line a bit more.

1248
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: But then, you know, can we fit in all these

1249
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: other mid prices and bargains that we want to pick.

1250
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 4: Down there forward in round six?

1251
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 5: L I was going to say that, Yeah, in round six,

1252
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 5: you're gonna have a lot of these rookies that we've

1253
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 5: got in our midfield that may actually go to a

1254
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 5: forward line.

1255
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: So maybe switch and Petrarca, Apps.

1256
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 5: Even Marshall if he plays a bit of forward time

1257
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 5: might get Marshall Petraca avoid you. You can get Langford

1258
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 5: maybe from Melbourne and he might play with the forward time.

1259
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: We don't know, so we'll get Apps podcast.

1260
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, yeah, Tim's already.

1261
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: I think I've done a hype of research on potential

1262
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: DPPs for the who might get that first change before

1263
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: we have even got any starts to work off at all.

1264
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: But we'll get that out soon, So keep an eye on.

1265
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Obviously, all the platforms for your Super Coach content plenty

1266
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: out there, lots for Super Coach Draft as well, which

1267
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: we're we're getting into and as we build up to

1268
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: these practice matches. So next week we'll be into sort

1269
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: of regular programming on the podcast with the Lair on Monday,

1270
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: and we'll have a brand new show on Wednesdays out

1271
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: of Melbourne. So cant wait for that with a big,

1272
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: big guest to kick us off. Can't get much bigger

1273
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: than the scud Father. Sorry, thanks for coming on today.

1274
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Where can people see all your amazing preseason content.

1275
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 5: Well if you go on YouTube and typing Spuds Spuds

1276
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: and you'll find me and.

1277
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: Google that.

1278
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: Brilliant Chloe, thanks for coming on, No Worris, thank you

1279
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: for having me.

1280
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: It's definitely given me a few extra names to consider

1281
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: for my forward line.

1282
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just what we need. More names, more names

1283
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: and Tim. Great to have you back on board.

1284
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: Thanks Hell. I'm off to google James Barrett and work

1285
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: out who you use.

1286
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point to me too. Thanks everybody for listening

1287
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: and we'll catch you very soon.