WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 27 December 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:08.320 Welcome to the wait to play Hello and welcome to 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:09.280 the Late Debate. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.120 Thank you for your company this evening. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.440 I'm Gabriella Power and joining us tonight is Joe Hildebrann 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.919 and Frei Leach coming up on the show. Nigel Farag's 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:23.320 Reform UK Party is certainly building momentum. The party has 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.640 now taken over the Tory's membership numbers. Also, Russia's president 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.600 Vladimir Putin has flagged that he's ready to meet with 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.640 President elect Donald Trump and back home. It's been along 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.400 eighteen months, but more Redeeming has finally been readmitted to 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.280 the Victorian Liberal Party. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.120 But first, what did Christmas Eve. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.199 At Mara Lago look like? One big party? According to 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.400 Page six. According to reports, Donald Trump was behind the 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.240 DJ dex and he closed his set with YMCA with 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.800 some of the crowd doing the Trump Dance, and the 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.520 President elect reportedly played number of tunes including the theme 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.160 of Founder of the Opera as well. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.360 As Elvis Presley songs. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.120 And tickets for the Christmas ever went event rather, I 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.120 went for three hundred and. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:10.920 Fifty dollars each. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.759 But here's a little video of Donald Trump busting out 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:25.960 some moves so he's not behind the DJ decks there, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.440 but those moves are iconic. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.759 It's funny, amazing, They're still Waxen and milkin. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.360 He gets worth three hundred, three hundred and fifty dollars. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.600 I think people would pay a lot more to see 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:36.400 Donald Trump. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.120 I'm pretty sure he doesn't need the money. I wonder 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.440 why wouldn't have just been a sort of invitation only 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.240 only event for his you know, his first buddy, you know, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.440 is Elon Musk's and everything. I imagine he's probably giving giving 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.800 the money to a charity of his choice. And I'm 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.280 just going through my mind try to imagine what sort 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.440 of charity Donald Trump would choose, Like, you know, I 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.160 like astronauts for Trump or you know, love. It would 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.880 be something amazing. But it's just I think it is 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.080 just so. And we're seeing this sort of stuff just 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.240 light up everywhere, you know, football games where everyone's doing 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.000 a little Trump dads, or there's all these crazy memes 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.120 doing the rounds. At the moment, the whole mood of 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.600 America seems to have changed, and I think there was 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:22.919 this kind of really constricted sort of fear that you know, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.160 that no one was allowed to say anything, or no 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.080 one was allowed to actually just rewatch the Dave Chappelle 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.160 The Closer special last night on Netflix, and just the 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.800 amount of anxiety that people felt about what they were 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:41.080 and weren't allowed to say or do in public, the earnestness, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.800 you know, the sort of doctrinaire sort of nagging by 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.600 sort of liberal left East and West Coast Karens to 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.720 the general population. And now it's almost like everyone has 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.800 kind of realized, oh, we don't actually have to listen 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.880 to them anymore. We can just sort of have fun 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.920 do stupid stuff. And the fact that Donald Trump's signature, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.160 i mean, all the woke people attack him, obviously. Donald 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:07.800 Trump's signature tune is from a gay pop group of 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.279 the nineteen seventies who sing about staying at the YMCA 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.160 because it's all men, and whose makeup includes, you know, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.480 an African American, an Indian who may or may not 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.919 be strictly Native American. I'm not sure if they've done 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.720 a DNA test. And let's not forget the construction worker 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.480 and the traffic cop. But again, it's just so it's 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.000 so kind of bizarre and it makes no sense, and 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.720 that's kind of the fun of it. There's no longer 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.600 this humorous orthodoxy about what people have to believe and 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.120 how they yes and how they have to behave. And 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.560 I think that is what the left constantly missed about 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.880 Trump's attraction. And you know, I've got made of mind 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.400 in the Labor Party constantly bombarding me with just joyous 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.880 tweets about how awesome it is to be under Trump, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.880 because people, even on the left have just so sick 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.840 to the back teeth of it, and they thought this 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.160 was a life sentence and Trump is action, know, and 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.880 it's not doesn't have to be screw you. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.520 And Kamala Harris was trying to bang on about joy, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.560 but then look what the joy Johnald Trump is bringing. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.480 He's kind of becoming this cultural icon. He's becoming this 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.880 cool politician with young people even though he's a seventy 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.719 eight year old and people can't get enough of his 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.080 dance move. That's the complete irony of it. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.640 Kamala Harris ran her whole or attempted to run her 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.800 whole campaign on this concept of bring joy back. But 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.080 really it's as Joe said, it's the left that is 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.880 killing joy and Trump is bringing joy back and is 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:37.120 kind of cool, counter cultural Elon musk vivek Ramaswami, Doge, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.960 Department of Government Efficiency. Like it's all adding to this 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.640 this sense that America is back, fun is back. We 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.560 can actually be optimistic. And I think it's that that 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.520 optimism that actually underlines the joy that we're seeing and 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:57.240 the way the cultural vibe has just complepletely swung is 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.680 genuinely incredible. And to see you know, even you said, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:05.320 young people jen Z YouTubers that I watch coming out 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:10.440 supporting Trump, doing content with Trump, speaking at Trump rallies. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.560 That is just unheard of. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.640 Seeing a twenty five year old male like Bryce Hall, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:20.080 for example, very famous TikTok and YouTuber and he spoke 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.560 at a Trump rally like it is just I don't 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.520 think we've ever seen that kind of complete pendulum swing 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.040 in pop culture ever. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.599 And he's brought sarcasm back, He's brought humor back. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.000 You know, the. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.040 Electric campaign when he was trolling Joe Biden, he brought 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.560 out the garbage Truck's so funny. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.840 It's so funny, that's the thing. Funny. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.760 It's just such a it's rough. Politians don't speak that way. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.440 It's kind of like, you know, the chaser for Republicans 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.680 and again and this is the thing, and again, this 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.159 is another really creepy thing about the kind of new 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.360 doctrinaire upper middle class left who have become the new establishment. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.360 And you know, again you got everyone from you know, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.080 Johnny Rotten to Joe all these x kind of people 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.800 who thought they were the rebels and they were the 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.280 Alaricans and they were the the you know, they were 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.560 the wild ones saying no, the left is now the 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.599 horrible doctrinaire one. And Karma has banging on about joy 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.080 is actually the perfect example because she's not actually saying 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.400 anything funny. She's not actually giving you something to be 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.840 joyous about it. She's just saying you have to be joyful. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.200 I mean, that's kind of Paul Pot thing, isn't that 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.400 you have? That's right. You have to love your leader, 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.440 you have to be filled with love for the new Republic. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.200 You have to love the big brother, you know, like 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.760 that is what you do when you don't actually, you know, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.799 it's feeling without content. Comedians don't you know, talk about joys, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.640 talking about laughter. Donald Trump doesn't get last by going 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.360 out and say all right, everybody laugh. Now you get 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.480 it by being funny, and it's being funny and again, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.719 you know, Ricky Gervais, Phil mah Dave Chappelle, you know 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.560 people right across the spectrum who have been have been 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.640 railing against this council culture, railing against the censoriousness of 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.159 the new Left, and the new Left sort of just 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.200 hasn't been listening and just said no, no, we're just 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.800 going to carry on telling you what to think and 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.440 telling you why all these things are offensive. And eventually 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.360 everyone just got together and went, if you yeah, it's going. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.640 To be an interesting thing years. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.840 I think people will still be doing the Trump doubts 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.000 in four years' time. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.880 We can't seems good enough of it. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.320 But let's look at what Joe Biden's doing. He only 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.040 has three weeks left in the top job, and with 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.360 the little time that he has left, he's of course 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.640 pardoned his son Hunter Biden after saying that he wouldn't. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.920 He's commuted some of the worst and most. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.480 Violent criminals, and now he's taken himself off for a 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:38.840 week long holiday. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:39.840 You think that he. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.560 Had waited a couple of weeks until he's no longer 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.200 the president, but he doesn't want to miss an opportunity 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.480 to have some son have a little rest. We know 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.360 his bedtime is pretty early. Joe Biden has reportedly spent 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.880 five hundred and seventy days, which is nearly forty percent 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.200 of his entire presidency away from the White House. So 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.560 this trip, I suppose it comes as no surprise. World 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.520 leaders are already responding to the strength of Donald Trump 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.840 and essentially treating him like he's already president, which we'll 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:09.480 get into in. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.560 A moment, and Biden's. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.559 Just making sure that he and his family are getting 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.200 well looked after and having a good rest. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:16.600 Prayer. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.000 Are you surprised to see him taking off on this holiday, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:19.960 Not at all. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:20.360 He is. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.040 You know, there's this great movie, The Corpse Bride. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.640 He's the corpse President, and he has been for the 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.040 last four years, and it's no surprise that that's continuing. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.400 But I do think that he and as I think, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.440 as Moura tell, all books about the Biden administration come 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.439 out in the coming years will know the full scale of. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.079 The cover up. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.360 But I think the way that his advisors and the 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.400 left wing media colluded to cover up the fact that 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.680 America was being run by a senile, incapacitated half Dead 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.240 Man is truly going to go down as one of 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:58.319 the worst political scandals in American history. And it is reckless, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.000 Like we laugh about it, but it's rest you look 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.720 at his record on foreign policy. Part of the expose 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.680 that came out a couple of days ago, which we 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.599 talked about on this show, it was I think it 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.520 was the chair of the National Arms Committee, and he 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.680 was saying during the Afghanistan withdrawal, he was trying to 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.400 get hold of Joe Biden to express his concerns about 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.040 the fragility of Afghanistan and the ability of the government 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.920 to hold on to power there, but he literally could 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:32.400 not get hold of the president. The only the only 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.120 time the president called him in his entire four year 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.600 term was to apologize for not being there. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:38.480 But that was it. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.400 And so that just sums it up. And you look 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.560 at the results of that, American troops dying, foreign policy chaos, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:48.200 Russia advancing Iran, embolden China going after Taiwan, like all 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.880 this stuff is a result of a president literally asleep 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:52.280 at the wheel. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.120 You make it sound like it's all bad. The Taliban 0:09:54.200 --> 0:10:01.640 is acting really fast on climate channe. They've actually developed 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.160 the Taliban have cards for more action on Clive. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.200 They love powers. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.800 Oh no, it's too risky, it's risky to your health. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.840 Biden holiday right now, he doesn't even have a month 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.080 to go. Is it really the best time? 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.679 Taking more than a holiday is taking the piss? But 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.680 but it's I think it's just one of those things 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.120 where Biden would say, hey, guys, I was thinking of, 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.440 you know, maybe just taking a couple of days, and 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.160 everyone goes, no, no, no, take the week, Go go 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.280 for a long free charge those batteries. Take Jill with you, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.880 you know, stay as long as you want. We've got 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.880 things here. You'll be right. And again, I mean, he's 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.920 the as Prayer said, the White House has been so ruddless, 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.600 and it's clearly been, strangely enough, the only authority that 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:52.439 Biden really seemed to put his presidential stamp on more 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.160 than anything else. Like a lot of stuff seemed to 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.040 be just every all the Democrats are one of the 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.080 Green New Deal stuff, you know, the inflation busting package whatever. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.840 He's just like, yeah, kid's chuck it in the back 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:01.839 of the car. It was a bit like with the 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.680 Voice campaigns, like what else do you want? Yep, Yeah, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.080 what do you want? Yep, yeah, yeah, what do you want? 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.960 Everyone will vote for it anyway, what could go wrong? 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.320 Chuck it all in the back of the boot and 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.200 let's get going. And the only thing that he sort 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.959 of put his foot down on and put his stamp 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.720 of authority on was that he would run for president 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.120 again in twenty twenty four. So it's kind of like 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.760 the exact opposite of what should have happened. And it 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.880 really and honestly does I probably sound like a broken record, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.000 but as someone who wants to see the Democrat Party 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.400 get moved back to the sort of center represent mainstream 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.319 working class people and wants to see the Labor Party 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.080 do the exact same thing. Get back to the center, 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.280 ditch all this rubbish, ditch all this ideological crap, ditch 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.840 all these sort of preoccupations and rabbit holes, and get 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.800 back to representing mainstream working Australians. And you just look 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.880 at the top apparatus of the Democratic Party, which is 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.520 meant to be the gold standard, you know, the New Rome, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.040 the United States of America, the oldest democracy of the 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.960 modern era and the greatest democracy of the modern era, 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.280 and they're just morons. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.680 There's just nothing under the hood, and you're like, you 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.520 flip the bonnet and it's just a bowl of spaghetti, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.840 and it's like I could stick my you know, I 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.640 could stick my five year old daughter in there with 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.440 a barbie doll and a paint gun and she would 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.040 make more sense and. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:28.920 She would stay up. Honestly, that's right. It's not pably, honestly, 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:34.320 just absolutely gobsmacked that this is going on at this level. Yeah, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.520 like with you know, literally the planet, the safety of 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.439 the planet had say, oh, sorry, guys, we letting the 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.000 Taliban back into Afghanistan. It's my bad. Sorry, must have 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.560 been in the shower when you call it literally, that happened. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.600 That actually happened. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.680 And as far as said, we've just seen the consequences 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.559 of what has happened. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.000 On climate change in Afghanistan. That's what's happened. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.320 And it would of course be hard for world leaders 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.720 to take Joe Biden seriously. But Russian President of Bladimir 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:04.280 Prute is reportedly ready for potential talks with President elect 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.080 Donald Trump on ending the nearly three year long war 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:08.920 in Ukraine. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:09.160 Now. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.720 During an end of year news conference, he claimed that 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.439 he hasn't spoken to Trump in years, and that there 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.480 are no current plans for a meeting, but if they 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.400 do talk, he's ready to make compromises to end the war. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.199 According to The New York Post, Pruden said, of course, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.960 I'm ready to talk any time. I'll be ready to 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.839 meet with him if he wishes. Now, Donald Trump has 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.840 of course promised to lead these peace talks between Russia 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.200 and Ukraine. He's claimed that he's going to end the 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.920 conflict on day one back in office. That's obviously going 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:41.199 to be quite hard, but it is going to be 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:42.680 a top priority for Donald. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.520 Trump definitely, and I think it should be. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.120 Ukraine is an issue that is also dividing the Republican Party, 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.240 and I think there are a lot of internal tensions 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.319 around what the approach to foreign policy should be. There 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.160 are definitely key people like Telsea Gadad who are opposed 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.160 to ongoing involved in funding of Ukraine, and so I 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.240 think for Trump, both from an internal Republican Party perspective 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.400 and just for foreign policy more broadly, Ukraine will be 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.480 a top priority. I mean, the guiding ideology that the 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:22.560 Democrats have operated by under Obama and then Biden was appeasement. Essentially, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.520 let's strike a deal with Iran, appease them, Let's appease Russia. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.320 Let's just appease everyone and just play nice, and hopefully 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.040 the liberal international order will do its thing and will 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.360 all be okay. But what that has done is it 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:41.680 has emboldened belligerence around the world. And I think truly 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:46.800 the only language dictators understand is strength. It's how they operate, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.240 it's what they understand. And Trump, love or hate him, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.560 he has the strength, and his reckless tweets, it all 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.800 feeds into that sense of strength, and so I think 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.760 really the only thing Putin will respect is strong America, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.680 and that is what Trump is promising to bring back. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.160 If he does that, then I think the prospect of 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.560 resolving that conflict is a bit higher. However, I wouldn't 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.160 take anything Putin says seriously because he also loves to lie. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.280 So we'll see what happened. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.640 Yeah, but it's an interesting point that, you know, world 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.400 leaders do respond to his strength. We saw in Trump's 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.400 first term he met with Kim Johng un like he 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.840 actually yeah and actually talks. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.360 Yeah. I'm not sure if it's so much strength as 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.160 just unpredictability, and people are just not sure what he's 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.400 going to do next What lengths he's actually prepared to 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.920 go to He talks up such a crazy game like 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.240 he talks up He says, you know, day one, if 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.560 all the hostages aren't back in Gaza to Israel by 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.280 January twenty, I'm going to start the biggest war in 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.680 all of history in the Middle East. And you're, you know, like, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.560 what on earth that means? Who knows, but you can 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.480 bet your bottom dollar it's making her mass nervous already. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.120 I think it's still a cease fire that Hesbella, I 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.280 believe is still observing, and that happened just after Trump 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.880 got in because again they know that there is not 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.080 going to be as others leaders have said, any restraint 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.600 with Donald Trump and again Putin. The biggest casualty of 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:14.840 the Ukrainian War has been Putin's ego and Russian pride 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.480 and prestige. They've been utterly humiliated. Putin has been made 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.960 and it used to be thought about Putin that, however 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.280 evil or cruel or unscrupulous he was, he was at 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.680 least very smart, very calculating XKGB, you know, the whole lot, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.280 and that this was a really shrewd operator and the 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.760 way that they invaded Ukraine, with such an appalling blunder 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.640 and such an appalling miscalculation. It's actually done the worst 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.840 thing for Putin, which is to embarrass him, to make 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.200 him look stupid, and to make him look impotent. And 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.240 so he is desperately looking for a way to get 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.840 out of this war while saving face. And so you've 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.240 got this amazing thing with both Trump and Putin each 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.560 pretending that it's the other who wants to with them. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.000 So it's like my grandma used to do this when 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.159 she wanted a game of tennis. She'd never allow herself 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.760 to ask anyone for a game of tennis. She would 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.480 just sit there and it would be definitely quiet, nobody 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.240 would be saying it, and she just all right, if 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.159 you want a game of tennis, I guess I'll have 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.399 one with you. And no one would have said anything, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.280 and then suddenly all the rest of oh that's great, 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.680 I was waiting for a game of tennis. Oh thank 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.800 you so much, blah blah blah. And that's what those were. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.920 There's so they're trying to save face by not looking 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.280 like it's them that actually wants it, and of course 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.520 Putin will come to the table because he desperately needs 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.840 a way to get out, and Trump offers a kind 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.640 of reset and excuse because well I couldn't because Joe 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.520 Biden was so weak and hopeless or whatever. But Donald 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.040 Trump has shown that he's prepared to respect my authority 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.520 and by talking to me, and therefore we're able to 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.880 reach an accommodation. It's great for Russia blah blah blah, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.880 and they'll pick off a few Eastern provinces and blah blah. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:54.800 But that is what is going on there, and I 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.960 had no doubt that will work. It's classic mad and diplomacy. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.560 Well, yeah, I think most of the world what's seen 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:01.440 an end to this war. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.240 More than twelve thousand people have died. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.719 And as you say, it was splitting the Republican Party 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.040 with the amount of spending and the amount of money 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.320 that was getting sent over to Ukraine. So for sure, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.320 and I think to pick up on Joe's point there, 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.399 I think we'll see a similar dynamic in the Middle 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:17.119 East as well. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:18.480 I think Iran is. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:23.000 Absolutely terrified of Trump, and the Abraham Accords, which Trump 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.240 brought in in his last term of government, completely changed 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.000 the game. There was this idea that the Israel Palestine 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.800 problem and peace in the Middle East couldn't be achieved 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:37.480 until there was Palestinian statehood. But the Abraham Accords shattered 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.679 all of that. By going directly to Arab countries that 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.719 had an interest in economic liberalization and an interest in 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.840 containing Iran, they were basically able to circumvent the issue 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.679 of the Palestinians and make huge progress towards peace in 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.480 the Middle East. I think that is going to pick 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.200 up under Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.520 Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords very soon. And I 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:08.760 think the credibility that the US lost under Biden is spectacular. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.159 The fact that there is still I believe it's seven 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.600 Americans being held hostage in Gaza for over four hundred 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.720 days and Biden has not lifted a finger to get 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.640 them back. He should have sent American troops in there 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.880 the next day to get his Americans back. He should 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.199 have been working with the Israelis and supporting them in 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.240 any way he could. Instead, he's completely turned his back 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.760 on them, probably because it's his woke Democrat advisors actually 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.399 calling the shots and not him, And I think that 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.119 is the greatest travesty because by allowing seven Americans to 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.280 rot in tunnels in Gaza for over a year, the 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.200 US has essentially said to all these terrorist organizations, take 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.959 our people. We are so weak, we can't do anything 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.280 about it. And that is not what you want from 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:56.960 the leader of the free. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.600 I don't think a single other president since Ginny would 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.080 have allowed that to Dan Reagan would never have done it. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.320 Clinton would never have done it, Neither of the Bushes, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.520 Obama would never have done it. Trump. Obviously it is staggering. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.200 And again it's just that somnambulance, and you are absolutely great. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.840 Let's not forget the reason why Hamas, because this is 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:20.080 also a Sunny conflict as well as and Palestinian Israeli conflict. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.800 The reason Hamas launched their terror attack on October seven 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:28.439