1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Viral video is going out about some of the huge 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: paypackets that ossie traders are getting at the moment, which 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: is great, which we need. We need people to go 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: into trades in the industry. It is struggling a little 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: bit as well. There's certain areas, but there is some 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: good money to be made. But it's unbelievable. These girls 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: just went around the street and were just asking people 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: what they got paid. A majority of them were trades. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Have I listened to this. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm a plumber. 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: I get paid about forty to forty five bucks an hour. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm a second year carpentry apprentice after tax about eleven 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: hundred a week. 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm a concrete pumper and I make about thirteen hundred 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: a week. 17 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm a scaffolder and I make one point five kre week. 18 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: I'm an auto electrician and a diesel fitter. 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: I make about one hundred and twenty a year. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm a diesel fitter by trade, work on heavy earth 21 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: moving equipment, one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty. 22 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: Hour feeding and machining in the mind and between one 23 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one hundred and forty thousand. 24 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: I'm a scaffolder and I make about three grand a 25 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: week after attacks. I am a coleminer and I make 26 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: about one hundred and sixty thousand a year. 27 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the scaffolder because I didn't 28 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: know scaffolders make that much. 29 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: So he loaded. 30 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: That guy went on to say, I was working at 31 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: Macas and a made of mine who was a scaffolder, 32 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: got me involved and he goes, I love the physical work. 33 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Now he takes home three thousand dollars a week. 34 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: Kate, I've got to. 35 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: Know what you're doing. A lot of regulation in scaffolding. 36 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 5: Yes, you can be quite dangerous. 37 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Someone said why putting Why does putting up some metal 38 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: framing pay so much? And another one replied because it's 39 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: a horrible job that destroys your body. It's a tough 40 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: job all it is. And there's a lot of trades 41 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: out there. You look at brick layers as well. I 42 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: mean they get paid good money back though back, but 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: see they this is the thing now I think coming 44 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: in at top spot. Boiler makers get an average income 45 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: of one hundred and twelve thousand. Electricians get ninety six 46 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: thousand and plumbers are right behind him on ninety five. 47 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: That's just average. Now if you go out on your own, 48 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: there's more money to me. What you want to focus 49 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: on this morning, and that's great, it is thriving. I 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: want to talk about people over quoting and did you 51 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: receive a ridiculous quote? Because the reason I was watching that. 52 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: So how's this the other day? We need to get 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: a little there's a wall that we found out a 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: couple of people have been jumping, so we need to 55 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: get a tiny little fence that needs to be put 56 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: on the top of the wall cape so people can't 57 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: jump this wall next to our house. 58 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 6: Okay, so it's a bit higher. You're erasing the height 59 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 6: of it. 60 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: It would be I reckon around about three to four 61 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: meters long. Now, obviously it's a little fin It doesn't 62 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: have to be a big one. We just needed deter 63 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: people getting over the walls. 64 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: A brickwork or timberwork. 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: No, it's just a steel fence. So it'll be slats 66 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: of steel. We'll go there and it will deter them 67 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: jumping the fence. It needs to be custom made. I 68 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: understand that. But when you get a quote for twenty 69 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: eight pow. 70 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: Oh god, I honestly know it's fitzy. 71 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: So I then asked around and this is the best 72 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: thing about trades, because everyone has friends that would know 73 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: someone or went to school with someone who is in 74 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: a trade. Finally got to a guy who looked after me. 75 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: He came and quoted it and he did the job 76 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: for three thousand. 77 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 6: That is unbelievable, from twenty to three thousand. 78 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: Did you call the guy that gave you the twenty 79 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: eight quote and go can you explain this? 80 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: I was fuming because and then at the moment we're 81 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: we're in a tough spot at the moment as well, 82 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: because they can put these quotes out there. They don't 83 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: want to do the job, No they don't. It's a 84 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: bonus if they get it. And it's unfortunately that everyday 85 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Australians need some of these jobs done and the elderly 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: would just usually go okay, well you can take my 87 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: life savings and I need to get this done. 88 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's like, if you want a job 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: done prior to Christmas, all the traders will just price 90 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: themselves out of it unless you pick up the job. 91 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: So you go, well, if they want it, they're going 92 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: to have to pay for at. 93 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 6: A time, and then they will come and do it 94 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: on a Saturday or a Sunday if they're getting paid 95 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 6: ten times as much as. 96 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: They usually, because that's what that is. Fits. This is 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: a twenty eight thousand from three. 98 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: Mate. I've got a block drain pipe downpipe at the moment, 99 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: and I rang one of. 100 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 5: These feeling okay, yes, is that what the grumbling is? 101 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Musil as well, so soundblocks, that's what it is. So anyway, 102 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: I rang one of the well known plumbing games. I 103 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 3: won't mention their name, and they sent me a quote 104 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: which was over five hundred dollars. Now, what they said 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: was we'll stick a camera down the downpipe so we 106 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: can have a look down and I went, that's great news. 107 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: I don't like from a consumer's point of it. I 108 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: don't care how you fix it. Fix it. They then said, 109 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: the great news is once we've cleared it, we can 110 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: then put the camera back down there to show you 111 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: it's cleared and give you a copy of that. Guys, 112 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm in my spare time. I will not be sitting 113 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: at home to see what the camera look like going 114 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: down the downpipe. 115 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, you just showed us a video that you kept 116 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: from sicily over overlooking some yachts and eatings. 117 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 5: That's completely it's so different. 118 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 6: But what are you going to do it comes to 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 6: Saturday night? Are you going to watch saltburn again? 120 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: No? 121 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: Watch the video of the empire the camera up down? 122 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: My god? Do you know what? I went and bought 123 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: a harness for twenty seven dollars from Buddings and I 124 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: went and did it myself. 125 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: No, you did it Tommy. 126 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: You got a harness for his fortieth day as well. 127 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Mum wasn't leather. 128 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Though. 129 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: We're talking about trade's at the moment, and obviously you 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: can earn some good corning coin, but there are some oath, 131 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: there's some overquoting that's going on in the industry at 132 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: the moment. What was the koait that you received, Rachel 133 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: and Snives? 134 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: What did you get? Roach? 135 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: Hey? 136 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: Guys, we got a quote for two new jip rock 137 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: walls in our apartments for five and a half grand 138 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: and that was a discounted quote through my husband's building company. 139 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: Two walls, so just jip rock studded. 140 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Walls, yep, eight pieces. 141 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: Did you work out how much the eight pieces of 142 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: jip rock was Earth and how much they are slinging 143 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: you for the labor. 144 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: Well, my husband reckons he could have done it for 145 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: two two and a half. 146 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rach, get it. I mean unless it's something like 147 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: you know, electrical work, where you need to have somebody 148 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: that's registered to do it. I reckon you jump on 149 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: YouTube and actually. 150 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 5: That is such an insult to training. 151 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: And next thing, you know, Now. 152 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: Do you know what I want to call Rach, what 153 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 6: I want to ask Rach about those If your husband 154 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: saying he could have done it for two and a half, 155 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 6: then why didn't. 156 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: He Well he did the framing and the demolishing, but 157 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: he didn't want to do the standing. 158 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah and a half? Lynn in Sylvania, have you been 159 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: ripped off by tradey? 160 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 6: Lynn? 161 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look my parents and it's really quite sad. My 162 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: parents have been married for sixty six years. And you 163 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: know the double story house, you know, the dream home. 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: And I just happened to be going passed one day 165 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: after work. I'm an early child, and I say a 166 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: guy in their roof and I put it in. I say, 167 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: where's the guy in the roof? Oh, you know, you 168 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: just happened to be going past. And he said, we've 169 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: got practice some of our tiles and he's up there 170 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and he's six to them and I said, well, what 171 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: how much you pay? Only five thousand cash? I was 172 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: paying five thousand dollars cash and I went and I said, Mum, 173 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. That's one of those cans to get it 174 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: getting down. You know, you don't know about that. No, 175 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: he's fine anyway, So he did the job, got the 176 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: little five thousand dollars at a little kid. And they're 177 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: not doing it easy, doing it tough. And I'm a 178 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: bit emotional because I've got a dad in the hospital 179 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: at the moment. You need to look after your parents 180 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: when you know things are getting tough, and you need 181 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: to put him in the homes and needs the money. 182 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: That could have been, of course a long story thought, 183 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: is it not do anything? He actually damaged tiles and 184 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: then we had to get someone else out because the 185 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: possum got in the roof. Because he actually damaged tiles. 186 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Then we had to get some back in the child 187 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: more money. 188 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: On top of that, the Irish rufers they've been going 189 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: around doing that quite a bit as well. 190 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Now are trade and they would never do anything like 191 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: that people, So there's good tradinges out there. Believe me. 192 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 6: Maybe just don't ant and never answer the knock on 193 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: the door. But you're right, people like you, Mum and Dad, 194 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: they just they wouldn't because their own grandsons would never 195 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: do anything like that. They just wouldn't imagine that anyone 196 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 6: else would. 197 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: They wouldn't get their grandsons because they think they're busy 198 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I'm busy, but it's just 199 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: so annoying, you know, and the money that you know 200 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: they need. 201 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: Now, of course, what you do there is you you 202 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: organize some some concrete and you go and dump it 203 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: in the block. Strive your horsehead. 204 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: That starts a war house, isn't that? 205 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Sorry about that? Bad advice. Kate Ritchie is an over 206 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: podcast walk great shows like this. 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