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Speaker 1: High Scrollers is produced on gadigul Land.

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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this

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Speaker 2: country and Elder's past and present.

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Speaker 3: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this very special episode of Close Friends.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're doing our Royal flush because we totally forgot

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Speaker 2: and ran out of time to do it in the

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Speaker 2: main episode. But before we get into that, I do

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Speaker 2: need to ask, where are you at with Hillary duff tickets?

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Speaker 3: No, mad I have not dated. No, no, no, It's good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Really good because for context everyone, I tried really freaking

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Speaker 2: hard to get them and I'm missed out.

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Speaker 1: Well, can I give you a little rundown? Okay, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much I can say on here.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a secret. Okay, But I was breaking

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Speaker 1: out too, because, as everyone knows, I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get a suite for Hillary so that we can take

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Speaker 1: people there, and I've had a few roadblocks when it

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Speaker 1: comes to artist ip, which totally makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's a business. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't like run a competition, Okay, do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Which is fair?

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Speaker 1: It makes sense, like for me to do that, I

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Speaker 1: would need to get permission from Hillary Duff's team to

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Speaker 1: use her name to.

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Speaker 3: Run a competition.

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Speaker 1: But I've got a work around, okay, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you about that a little later. But during all the

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Speaker 1: freak out of this, I bought four tickets.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if I've been scammed.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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Speaker 3: I bought them on a website called via Go Go.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of that?

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Speaker 4: Notorious for scams?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but then I was googling and it's like

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Speaker 1: it is legit, but it's like people sell their tickets

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Speaker 1: on there and I might not get the tickets until

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Speaker 1: like a week before kind of thing. So I bought

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Speaker 1: four GA tickets on there. So we've got those just

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Speaker 1: in case. I don't want to beep.

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Speaker 3: This out, but I've.

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Speaker 4: So be all that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's chat after this, okay, because I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Wet me pants.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I need more info.

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Speaker 1: It's happening, everyone, but I can't say much, but I'll

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Speaker 1: say that on the pod. It's happening, okay, and just

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Speaker 1: bear with me because I just got to work out

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Speaker 1: the logistics of it and I need your ideas. Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I said, no matter what, if it happens,

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Speaker 2: what do you need me to do, I'll do I'll

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Speaker 2: do whatever. Okay, I'll clean the bloody thing, I'll set

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Speaker 2: things up, I'll do a maat and great, what are

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Speaker 2: your need?

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Speaker 1: What do you need to get me asking to But

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Speaker 1: I don't want to like talk about it because I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, we'll talk logistics down the track.

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Speaker 4: Please be upstanding for the royal flush.

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Speaker 1: But let's get onto these royal flushes now, Matt, you

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Speaker 1: said in the main this week.

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Speaker 4: That my main is an anti royal flush.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you remember we've we've actually made her out

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Speaker 2: royal flush in the past. I think her name is

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Speaker 2: Shae Forever. Remember Shae Forever, the one that says the

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Speaker 3: Parties, and she says the keys to the city.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the keys to the city. Yeah, death for you

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Speaker 2: and your uber driver. Yeah, and we love that content. Well, no,

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Speaker 2: an anti royal flush for you, because this is.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like I think Scullers.

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Speaker 2: You have to listen to this with a bit of

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Speaker 4: She's eating it off the floor. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking how dirty the floor is in here,

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Speaker 2: We love foods to the party and we love that content. Well,

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Speaker 4: Well, she's found.

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Speaker 2: God, little baby Jesus, Oh, little Baby Jesus.

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Speaker 2: She has done a whole one eighty on her content.

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Speaker 2: Will never react to food videos again. Why she did

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Speaker 2: And as I said, in general, it's just no matter

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Speaker 2: I love most in this world. Religion is set up

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Speaker 2: against us. Maybe not yours, maybe not your church, maybe

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Speaker 2: I mean, anything's possible, we could get there. They never know,

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Speaker 3: I just want to say for myself, I'm like, all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they think that for you doing whatever you need

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Speaker 2: it's not for me, and let's just respect each other

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Speaker 1: And so you know, and above always sad that she's

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Speaker 2: Very sad that she's not doing the video She.

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Speaker 1: Like on this mat with you saying, like she's changed

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Speaker 2: It's now going to become if she really doesn't go

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Speaker 4: And also, I mean, I've done the whole church thing.

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Speaker 3: Actually know how to probably pronounce her last name. Mikayla

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the Kimkadashian girl makeup artist never to go

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Speaker 3: Get ready with me to go to I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She's been in and out of drama for ages now,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we never got to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 3: She's never once falsies on like you could see them.

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Speaker 4: She just did one in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: She's just announced that her and her husband are divorcing

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Speaker 4: I don't want to sit down for this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that video would have popped off on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Down, you can a golden hour.

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Speaker 1: But you know, she's been involved in so many different

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Speaker 1: Just because she's always in hot water, people are always

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Speaker 2: She did a video explaining like, yes, I put my

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll play something for you.

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Speaker 5: I'm not from Boston. I've never said that. People just

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Speaker 4: And I look, she goes on for eight and a

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Speaker 3: We are not going to listen to that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, she kind of just sits there and goes,

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Speaker 1: And I kind of like obviously watched her kind of

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Speaker 1: did you see Oh she's like, get ready to me

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I fucking like her.

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Speaker 1: Like people find her annoying, or they talk about her

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Speaker 3: Yeah what she posts, people.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, good on you.

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Speaker 2: You've always been a bitch for the underdog, haven't you.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, You've just been a bitch for

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Speaker 4: Rooted for the underdog? Yeap all the time? Lovebea Rebecca

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Speaker 3: Her out and she's just still going.

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Speaker 3: They were going shopping. She spent a ridiculous amount of money.

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Speaker 1: She did a hall of shit she got there, and

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it was like how much in the end one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and something thousand dollars?

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Speaker 1: Yes, which I know is it's crazy, it's out of touch,

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Speaker 3: She's just living her best life.

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Speaker 1: She's clearly got a lot going on, like going through

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Speaker 3: Will I regret saying this? Down the track? I might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we might have to do another redact.

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Speaker 1: We have established on this episode we're allowed to redact

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Speaker 3: Yes, just because we said it doesn't mean we mean it.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't like it, we'll see you next Tuesday.

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