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Speaker 1: On scoring lis Oustodio.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. Did Anthony Albn easy breach the Minister or

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Speaker 3: quote of conduct seeking flight upgrades? Just how much trouble

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Speaker 3: is the Prime Minister? In a special guest joins me

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Speaker 3: tonight before the first ad break, the Great Matt Walsh,

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Speaker 3: the man behind ground breaking documentaries What is a Woman?

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Speaker 3: And am I Racist? Last time I had him on

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Speaker 3: the show, the video had around five million views on

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Speaker 3: YouTube alone. You don't want to miss that. We'll look

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Speaker 3: at the deranged manor MSNBC covered the Trump rally at

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Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden and talking about left is losing it. Well,

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Speaker 3: we've got plenty of broken celebrities for you tonight, including

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Speaker 3: Robert de Niro. But first, the Prime Minister's relationship with

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Speaker 3: former Quantus CEO Alan Joyce is under scrutiny yet again,

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Speaker 3: in light of further revelations that between two thousand and

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Speaker 3: seven to twenty nineteen, during his tenure as a Transport

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Speaker 3: Minister and Shadow Transport Minister, he personally solicited twenty two

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Speaker 3: free Quantus flight upgrades worth tens of thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Now there is conjecture about whether that constitutes a breach

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Speaker 3: of the Ministerial Code of Conduct that were in place

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Speaker 3: from December two thousand and seven onwards, which bans ministers

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Speaker 3: from seeking or encouraging any form of gift in their

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Speaker 3: personal capacity. Anthony Albanesi was Transport Minister under both Rudd

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Speaker 3: and Gillard between two thousand and seven and twenty and thirteen,

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Speaker 3: and the standards of ministerial ethics were first released by

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Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd in two thousand and seven, adopted by Julia

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Speaker 3: Gillard in twenty ten, and the rules are really quite clear.

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Speaker 4: They state ministers are required to exercise the functions of

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Speaker 4: their public office unaffected by considerations of personal advantage or disadvantage.

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Speaker 4: Ministers in their official capacity may therefore accept customary official gifts,

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Speaker 4: hospitality tokens of appreciation, and similar formal gestures in accordance

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Speaker 4: with the relevant guidelines. But and it's a big butt,

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Speaker 4: must not seek or encourage any form of gift in

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Speaker 4: their personal capacity. Journalist Joe Aston has published these sensational

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Speaker 4: claims in his new book called The Chairman's Lounge, The

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Speaker 4: insights Story of how quantus sold us out here. He

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Speaker 4: is on the ABC last night explaining why these allegations

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Speaker 4: are so serious.

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Speaker 5: To solicit upgrades when you are on private travel and

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Speaker 5: you are the Minister for Transport regulating the airline industry,

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Speaker 5: to approach the CEO of the national airline to ask

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Speaker 5: to have your economy ticket magically turned into a point

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Speaker 5: end ticket, it's just inappropriate conduct, whether or not it's

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Speaker 5: declared or not. If Anthony Alberzi had to have been

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Speaker 5: Financial Services Minister and had called the CEO of a

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Speaker 5: bank and said would you please put fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: in my bank account and then disclose it on the

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Speaker 5: Pecuniary Interest Register, I certainly don't think anyone would be

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Speaker 5: sitting around saying, oh, well, he declared it, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi has snapped back at reporters today when pressed

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Speaker 3: on these allegations.

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Speaker 6: I have shared very clearly that I recall direct discussions

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Speaker 6: with Alan Joyce over over the flights the Emirates or

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Speaker 6: Quanish flight to Dubai and of course the first flight

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Speaker 6: to Perth. They're the only times that I was on

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Speaker 6: a plane with Alan Joyce. Of the twenty two flights,

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Speaker 6: ten of them doing the leadership ballot between myself and

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Speaker 6: Bill Shorten in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 3: He also told reporters on Sunday that from time to

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Speaker 3: time members of Parliament receive upgrades. What's important is that

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Speaker 3: they are declared. All of mine have been declared. But

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Speaker 3: that claim has also been questioned, with an exclusive story

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Speaker 3: in the Australian Financial Review revealing that the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: failed to declare thousands of dollars worth of business class

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Speaker 3: flight upgrades that he secured for his former wife. The

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Speaker 3: Opposition has used the allegations to call for a fresh

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Speaker 3: Senate inquiry into Contus's relationship with the government and of

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Speaker 3: Alan Joyce and Anthony Alberese's relationship in particular. Joining me

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Speaker 3: now for more on this as News Corps senior writer

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Speaker 3: and columnist Patrick Carline, Patrick, this scandal is growing. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: seem to pass the pop test. The Prime Minister looks

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Speaker 3: entitled here. He certainly seems a little bit out of touch.

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Speaker 3: And you've got question is judgment.

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Speaker 7: The optics are terrible. I think this story, as you've suggested,

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Speaker 7: that press conference today, he's been very unconvincing in his responses.

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Speaker 7: The devil is in the detail, as Joe Aston was

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Speaker 7: saying there before. Was he Transport Minister and was he

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Speaker 7: soliciting Allen Joyce personally to get benefits well Quantas personally.

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Speaker 3: Whether you know, if you're in the chairman's lounge, you

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Speaker 3: probably have got a special phone number you can call

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Speaker 3: where you get very good service.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 3: No, certainly Platinum members have access to a different phone line.

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Speaker 3: So even if it wasn't going directly to Joyce, if

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Speaker 3: it was going to anybody at Quantas are seeking this upgrade.

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Speaker 7: It stinks. It really does stink. As you said, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't pass the pub test, and it's going to get worse.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's going to be a distraction for

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Speaker 7: the government for weeks. I suspect, and I think if

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Speaker 7: you jump three steps ahead, you might actually be wondering

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Speaker 7: whether the ALP wants Antony alban Easy to lead the

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Speaker 7: party into the next election. I mean, it's just distraction

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Speaker 7: after distraction.

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Speaker 3: Well, the sense of entitlement that it portrays also is

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Speaker 3: really quite ugly because it just shows he's completely out

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Speaker 3: of touch with the average Australian Now. I was amused

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Speaker 3: to see this analysis from the ABC. The reporter Tom

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Speaker 3: Lowry wrote that Quantus's infamous Chairman's lounger just offered a

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Speaker 3: quiet place to wait for your next flight. He wrote,

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Speaker 3: the lounges themselves are apparently not all that interesting. They're

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Speaker 3: a comfortable airline lounge with enough room for a private

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Speaker 3: conversation or a quiet space to work. Club sandwiches and

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Speaker 3: salt and pepper squid are on the menu. Patrick, that

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Speaker 3: sounds like the musings of a man who has never

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Speaker 3: been in the Chairman's Lounge. Let me tell you, comparing

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Speaker 3: it to a regular business lounge is like comparing a

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Speaker 3: Battle of Grange to cask wine. It is a special thing.

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Speaker 3: And should Quantus be able to use the Chairman's lounge,

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Speaker 3: every MP gets membership to essentially an influenced buying exercise,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 7: That's right? Look up it in the Chairman's lounge once.

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Speaker 7: I think in my life I was with two very

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Speaker 7: public figures. I looked around the room and I was

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Speaker 7: the most anonymous person in the room by mile. It

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Speaker 7: is very important. Look it is a space where very

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Speaker 7: powerful people will meet. It is very good for networking.

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Speaker 7: It is very good for seeing people and talking about

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Speaker 7: things privately in a way that does sort of bring

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Speaker 7: it does get brought in the question, doesn't it? I mean,

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Speaker 7: it sounds too cozy, It sounds way too cozy.

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Speaker 3: And the experience is just so much superior to what

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Speaker 3: else is out there, and so exclusive invitation only, and

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Speaker 3: it must have an impact. But Quantus wouldn't be spending

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Speaker 3: ess for no influence, for no power. There must be

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Speaker 3: a payback more along the way.

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Speaker 7: And you look at what happened to Qatar Air last year.

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Speaker 7: They wanted to bring more flights in that. I'm not

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Speaker 7: sure where the truth lies, but it looks bad, doesn't it.

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Speaker 7: The perception is that it's too cozy, and it's been

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Speaker 7: cozy for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: And is that pop test we talked about again, exactly,

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Speaker 3: Passer Patrick Carline, thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 3: this evening. Now, my next guest has been at the

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Speaker 3: forefront of challenging the left's relentless culture wars. He's had

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Speaker 3: enormous success and exposing just how extreme and dangerous this

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Speaker 3: movement has become, but also how completely vacuous it is.

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Speaker 3: His documentaries, including the brilliant What Is a Woman, have

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Speaker 3: achieved huge commercial success and they have also opened the

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Speaker 3: eyes of many to what is being pushed in the

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Speaker 3: name of diversity, inclusion and equity. Let's have a look

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Speaker 3: at his latest groundbreaking work, Am I Racist?

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear what's happening in this country to Nazism.

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Speaker 8: Republicans are Nazis.

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Speaker 1: You cannot separate yourselves from the bad waite people.

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Speaker 9: Is because I said I had seventeen black friends, it

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Speaker 9: might have been fifteen. It depends on how you count them.

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Speaker 8: Am I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you laugh.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to learn on this journey. Can you please leave.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to sort this out. I need to go

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Speaker 8: deeper undercover, so I want to be an ally. I

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Speaker 8: need to look like well.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is the man behind Am I Racist?

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Speaker 3: I certified? Matt Walsh. Matt, firstly, congratulations on the success

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Speaker 3: of this film. It's clever, it's funny, really funny, and

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Speaker 3: it's been hugely successful at the box office. After only

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. It was the highest grossing documentary

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Speaker 3: of the Year, despite the fact that critics refused to

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Speaker 3: review the film.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, it was. You know, it's I'm

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Speaker 9: not sure. I don't know if we keep track of

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Speaker 9: this kind of thing, but I think it's probably one

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Speaker 9: of the only films that had a wide release theatrically

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Speaker 9: and debuted top five of the box office and yet

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Speaker 9: was not reviewed by a single mainstream film critic.

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Speaker 8: And you know it was.

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Speaker 9: It was in theaters for four or five, six weeks

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Speaker 9: and never got those reviews. Now it's on Deli wire

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Speaker 9: dot com streaming, so everybody can see it after they've

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Speaker 9: become members.

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Speaker 8: And through this whole run.

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Speaker 9: Still the mainstream film critics are basically trying to pretend

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Speaker 9: that the movie doesn't exist.

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Speaker 8: Which is which? Which is which? Is interesting to me?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And if you're interested in US politics, if you're

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Speaker 3: interested in the culture wars at all, the Daily Wire

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Speaker 3: is a subscription to have. Certainly, Now, the film may

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Speaker 3: have been stopped by critics, but the viewers have given

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Speaker 3: it a ninety seven percent rating, which is enormous. That's

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Speaker 3: to say rating The Godfather Part two has the best one. Now, Matt,

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Speaker 3: tell me about your transformation from conservative, white, heteronormative man

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Speaker 3: the enemy if you will have it to the certified

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Speaker 3: DEI expert complete with and Bonnie, were you treated differently

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Speaker 3: after this transformation and how did so many fall for

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Speaker 8: I want to treat it differently.

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Speaker 9: You know, I got the actual certification and it's they

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Speaker 9: give you a little card. They mailed it to me,

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Speaker 9: and I found that that card opens a lot of doors.

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Speaker 9: I mean literally opens a lot of doors. And I

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Speaker 9: think it's because on the left they are very careful

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Speaker 9: a lot of their ideas are just don't don't stand

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Speaker 9: up to scrutiny, and in particular the race hustlers, the

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Speaker 9: DEI con artists who pushed this stuff, I mean they know,

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Speaker 9: I think they know at some level that their ideas

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Speaker 9: under the slightest scrutiny. So what we discovered this is

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Speaker 9: pretty simple, is as long as you present yourself as

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Speaker 9: someone who is not going to challenge them, as someone

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Speaker 9: who is, as they would say, safe, then they'll they'll

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Speaker 9: welcome you with open arms and more importantly, and this

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Speaker 9: is what we wanted to bring out in the film.

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Speaker 8: They'll just be honest, They'll they'll tell you what they.

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Speaker 9: Actually think, and they'll behave in the ways that they

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Speaker 9: would actually behave in real life. And that's what we

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Speaker 9: wanted to bring out in the film. That's why we

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Speaker 9: approach it the way we did, where I'm you know,

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Speaker 9: where I am presenting myself as someone who agrees with

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Speaker 9: them and is just eager to learn more and kind

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Speaker 9: of putting their ideas into practice. We wanted the audience

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Speaker 9: to be able to see, you know, if you take

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Speaker 9: these ideas seriously and if you put them into practice, this.

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Speaker 8: Is where it leads.

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Speaker 8: It is it's brutal. I mean, it's ruthless.

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Speaker 8: So at all.

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Speaker 8: They oftentimes they really do punch down.

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Speaker 9: I mean they are embarrassing normal Americans or just living

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Speaker 8: But the fact is that these people have a lot

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Speaker 3: the case concluded Sesame Street one, the twenty five million

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Speaker 3: lawsuit was has failed. But Matt, why is there this

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Speaker 3: eagerness in the media amongst the activist class too to

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Speaker 3: push any claim of racism, no matter how fanci all

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Speaker 3: and that just Smallett one that was so absurd on

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Speaker 3: the face of it, and yet everyone from Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: down believed it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I think it's because when you've got a lot of

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Speaker 9: racial resentment and racial guilt and suspicion and all of

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Speaker 9: that in society, people are much it's much easier to

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Speaker 9: manipulate and control people. It's it's it's a tool that

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Speaker 9: people in power, the cultural forces, you know, in our

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Speaker 9: society use to control and manipulate and and that's why

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Speaker 9: they want to that's why they always want to like

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Speaker 9: find more reasons to accuse people of racism. They need

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Speaker 9: to convince people either that they are racist or that

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Speaker 9: they're the victims of racism, which.

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Speaker 8: Is also why they tell you that.

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Speaker 9: And we hear this in the film too, that hey,

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Speaker 9: if you you know, if you say that you're not

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Speaker 9: racist as a white person, if you claim you're not racist,

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Speaker 9: and that's that's just all the more evidence that actually

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Speaker 9: you are. So becomes this unfalsifiable claim. And the people

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Speaker 9: that are turning it into it on falsifiable claim, you know,

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Speaker 9: it's their motivation. I think it's pretty clear they stand

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Speaker 9: to make a lot of money off of it, and

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Speaker 9: there's a lot of power and influence from it for.

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Speaker 8: Them as well.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you've just done such exceptional work. You expose the

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Speaker 3: excesses of the trans movement with what is a woman?

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Speaker 3: Am I Racist? The race baces have been exposed. We

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Speaker 3: need you now to focus on some sort of a

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Speaker 3: climate change movie, Matt, please, we need that in the culture.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're working on next? Do you have

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Speaker 3: a next project? Already underway.

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Speaker 9: I have a couple of ideas that I'm pretty excited about,

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Speaker 9: but I couldn't.

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Speaker 8: I it's going to be. It's going to be in

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Speaker 8: the vault.

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Speaker 9: It's a it's a it's a secret for you know,

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Speaker 9: a while now before anyone hears anything about it.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate your time tonight, Matt Walsh.

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Speaker 8: You've been very generous.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Still to come an extended edition of Lefty's Losing It,

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Speaker 3: featuring more than one a less celebrity. Welcome back. Now

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Speaker 3: it's time for Lefties Losing It. And I regret to

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Speaker 3: inform you that Robert de Niro has gone fully demented again.

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Speaker 3: You'll remember his various anti Trump, ranced, ranged bile field

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Speaker 3: attacks that show that de Niro is suffering from an

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Speaker 3: advance case of Trump derangement syndrome. Are talking about, Ah,

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Speaker 3: what a charming man, not at all bitter or insane?

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Speaker 8: Is he?

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Speaker 3: You know what he's like the male Whoopie Goldberg and

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Speaker 3: talking about whoopee. Here she is claiming that Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: will deport the colored wives of white men. He'll break

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Speaker 3: up into racial marriages and will then marry off the

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Speaker 3: white men to new wives.

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Speaker 13: Walking about you.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be he's not gonna.

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Speaker 11: You know, say, oh, you're with a white guy.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to keep you from being deported.

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Speaker 15: No, you're going to port you and put the white

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Speaker 15: guy with someone else.

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Speaker 8: The man is out there.

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Speaker 3: What can you say about these people? They really should

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Speaker 3: have never closed those asylums. And while we're on the view,

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Speaker 3: let's have a look at this meltdown from Sonny Houston,

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Speaker 3: who blames Donald Trump personally for a joke told by

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Speaker 3: comedian Tony Hitchcliff at Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 14: This Puerto Rican has something to say about the island

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Speaker 14: that I love where my family is from. Puerto Rico

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Speaker 14: is trash. We are Americans, Donald Trump, Why.

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Speaker 3: Are you telling Donald Trump? It was a comedian who

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Speaker 3: made the joke, this joke.

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Speaker 10: Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but

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Speaker 10: there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle

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Speaker 10: of the ocean right now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Okay, yep, it was Tony's joke. He's

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Speaker 3: a comedian. He got a mixed response from the crowd

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Speaker 3: for that joke. Do we expect folks to change their

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Speaker 3: vote because of a joke about Puerto Rico. Well, Sunny

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Speaker 3: Houstin expects it, and in this rather hysterical die Tribe,

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Speaker 3: she again seems to mislead her dim audience, giving them

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Speaker 3: the impression that it was Donald Trump who told that joke.

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Speaker 14: We vote Donald Trump, trash away. Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin,

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Speaker 14: Bad Bunny, Luis Fonce and Mark Anthony have over three

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Speaker 14: hundred and forty five million followers on Instagram. I think

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Speaker 14: you only have twenty six million, since you care so

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Speaker 14: much about size, and we don't like what we said

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Speaker 14: about Puerto Rico, and we know how to take the

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Speaker 14: trash out Donald Trump, trash that has been collecting since

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Speaker 14: twenty sixteen. And that's you, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Oh, turned down the hyperbole. Love, You're going to hurt

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Speaker 3: yourself now. For the record, most Latinos that I know

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Speaker 3: of are not the celebt she mentioned. Most Latinos have

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Speaker 3: a pretty good sense of humor. They're not easily offended,

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Speaker 3: they're not snowflakes, and they probably know that Puerto Rico

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Speaker 3: has a significant trash problem has had for many years.

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Speaker 3: In any case, it was a joke. I don't recall

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Speaker 3: the Democrats, including the likes of the views Sonny Houston,

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Speaker 3: having a tantrum over this joke told recently at a

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Speaker 3: Kamala rally, suggesting that Mexicans are a faving miscreants.

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall,

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Speaker 13: and George Lopez said, you better build it in one day,

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Speaker 13: because if you leave.

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Speaker 2: That material out there overnight.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember Kamala having to disavow that joke or

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Speaker 3: the media having a mass meltdown about it. And of

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Speaker 3: course Don Lemon was joining in the insanity. Listen to

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Speaker 3: this nonsense.

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Speaker 12: You want to see the October surprise that just might

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Speaker 12: kill Donald Trump's chances of becoming president. This one stupid

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Speaker 12: racist joke. And they released a statement almost immediately trying

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Speaker 12: to distance Donald Trump from the comedian and that joke,

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Speaker 12: but not before some really high profile stars started reposting

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Speaker 12: videos of Kamala Harris's support of Puerto Rico, like Bad Bunny,

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Speaker 12: j Lo and Ricky Martin. They have hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 12: if not millions, of loyal fans that comedian kill Tony

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Speaker 12: may have just killed Donald Trump's chances of becoming president.

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Speaker 3: That is called wishful thinking folks. Good luck with that, Donna.

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Speaker 3: Let's check it now with Tim Walls, who wants Republicans

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Speaker 3: to stop all that name calling.

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Speaker 2: I think the core principle adhering to the Constitution, the

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Speaker 2: rule of law, getting away from the name calling and

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Speaker 2: the division.

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Speaker 3: But wasn't it Tim Walls who just a few days

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Speaker 3: ago called the world's richest man the genius sending rockets

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Speaker 3: into space and using his considerable wealth to help save

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Speaker 3: free speech. Wasn't it Tim Walls who called Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: a dipshit.

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Speaker 2: Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dips

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Speaker 2: on these stones.

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Speaker 8: You know it?

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Speaker 3: And remember when the man who put tampons in boys'

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Speaker 3: bathrooms in schools across Minnesota. Cold Republicans weird and creepy.

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Speaker 2: You know it, You feel it. These guys are.

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Speaker 8: Creepy, and yes, just where it as hell.

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Speaker 2: That's what you see.

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Speaker 3: And here is Tim Walls pushing the dangerous lie that

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Speaker 3: Trump's sellout rally at Madison Square Garden or some Nazi

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Speaker 3: inspired event.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has descended into madness over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: And I think some of you don't miss on this.

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Speaker 2: Go do your google on this. Donald Trump's got this

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Speaker 2: big rally going at Madison Square Garden. There's a direct

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Speaker 2: parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there.

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Speaker 3: That's the weirdo accusing his opponents of using reckless language. Really,

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Speaker 3: now it's time to check in with the woman herself,

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. Here she is with a bunch of celebs,

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Speaker 3: including John Legend, chanting we are not going back, We're

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Speaker 3: not going back. Did you spot actor Mark Ruffalo there?

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Speaker 3: How is he getting faced time with the veep when

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Speaker 3: he's out there pushing dangerous lies about Israel? The man

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Speaker 3: is an anti Zionist disinformation machine. Interesting company that she keeps.

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Speaker 3: But don't expect the media to ask about that. The

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Speaker 3: media won't even ask her about her many accents, But

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Speaker 3: the content creators keep coming up with gems like this.

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Speaker 16: Yes, oh, hello, young lady, it's quite a marvelous day

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Speaker 16: in it.

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Speaker 15: Why does she talk so weird?

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Speaker 8: Let me play with her.

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Speaker 16: Well, hey, there, little nugget, I'm going to be the

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Speaker 16: first black female president of the United States of America.

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Speaker 15: Man, this dog sucks.

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Speaker 17: Accent Switch Kamala can emulate any accent you like as

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Speaker 17: long as it grants her credibility.

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Speaker 15: You have a quo power.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Accent Switch Kamala can even do a German accent

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Speaker 3: and comes with a bunch of useful accessories.

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Speaker 15: Goodness or.

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Speaker 10: Sid switch.

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Speaker 17: But wait, there's more. All new accent Switch Karmala comes

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Speaker 17: with two bags of campaign money, a blind eye for

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Speaker 17: illegal immigration, and her own multi lab three thousand generators

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Speaker 17: lab in every way possible. It's accent Switch Kamala and

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Speaker 17: brand new tampon Tim.

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Speaker 3: We've got more lefties losing it after the ad break,

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Speaker 3: including the leftist media's insane coverage of Trump's huge Madison

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Speaker 3: Square Garden rally. Batiya Unga Sagon joins me next welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at how MSNBC covered the huge

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Speaker 3: trumpel at rally at Madison Square Garden, which featured everyone

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Speaker 3: from Milania to Hulk Hogan to doctor phil and Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 3: and also Trump's dream team. Those are the people expected

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Speaker 3: to be part of his administration. The likes of Elon

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Speaker 3: Mask Vivit Ramaswami, Tulsea Gabbett.

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Speaker 8: And Robert F. Kennedy.

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Speaker 3: It was a jubilant affair, but let's hear how MSNBC

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Speaker 3: coverted this is insane.

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Speaker 13: In that place is particularly chilling because in nineteen thirty nine,

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Speaker 13: more than twenty thousand supporters of a different fascist leader,

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Speaker 13: Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a so called pro

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Speaker 13: America rally, a rally where speakers voiced anti Semitic rhetoric

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Speaker 13: from a stage draped with Nazi banners. When a Jewish

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Speaker 13: protester rushed the stage, the Associated Press reported quote Instantly

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Speaker 13: a dozen or more stormtroopers set upon him, knocking him

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Speaker 13: down and beating him. As he held his head in

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Speaker 13: his arms. Most of his clothing was torn from his body.

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Speaker 13: Later he was booked for disorderly conduct. Now against that

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Speaker 13: backdrop of history, and he.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't us to MSNBC where the lefties were losing it.

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Speaker 3: One of their anchors brought some extra crazy to the

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Speaker 3: views desk on the ABAC.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think it was everything that you need to

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Speaker 11: know about Donald Trump in one weird white nationalist Nazi

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Speaker 11: type rally. And of course there's historic parallels to where

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Speaker 11: and when this happened.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is the deputy opinion editor at Newsweek

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Speaker 3: and author of Second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's

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Speaker 3: working men and Women. Batiya Unga Sagon, Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for your time.

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Speaker 8: What is your.

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Speaker 3: Response to the manner in which MSNBC and other leftist

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Speaker 3: media covered Trump's Madison Square Garden rally.

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Speaker 15: Thank you so much for having me, and also thank

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Speaker 15: you for your continued.

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Speaker 18: Humor about all of these utterly ridiculous things read. I

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Speaker 18: know that I and all of your viewers so appreciate

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Speaker 18: your perspective on everything. You know, it is so incredibly

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Speaker 18: ridiculous the way they talked about it. They talked about

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Speaker 18: this as though nobody had appeared in Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 18: between the Nazi rally and Donald Trump showing up, when

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Speaker 18: of course, it is one of the most desirable venues

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Speaker 18: in the country.

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Speaker 15: Tons and tons and tons of people have appeared there.

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Speaker 15: This rally was full of Jewish people, supporters of Israel,

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Speaker 15: black people, Hispanic people. The idea that it is a

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Speaker 15: Nazi rally, it is utter wishful thinking by the left,

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Speaker 15: and you have to understand the reason that they're doing

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Speaker 15: this When they call Trump Hitler, they're doing so because

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Speaker 15: he has vowed to rid this country of the scourge

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Speaker 15: of illegal immigration. And so what they're doing is they

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Speaker 15: are comparing Hitler, who took away the citizenship of millions

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Speaker 15: of Jews and then mass murdered them, with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 15: who is effectively saying, I'm going to put Americans first,

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Speaker 15: American citizens first, and take away the scourge of illegal immigration,

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Speaker 15: which not only has brought a lot of violence to

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Speaker 15: this country, but also has been a downward pressure on

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Speaker 15: working class wages because of course they come and they

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Speaker 15: compete with the working class. So why do they do this,

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Speaker 15: Why do they compare Donald Trump, who's trying to protect

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Speaker 15: American citizens with Hitler, who murdered German citizens who happened

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Speaker 15: to be Jewish. And what they're trying to do their

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Speaker 15: rita is erase the distinction between citizen and non citizen. Right,

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Speaker 15: they're saying that for Donald Trump to deport illegal immigrants

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Speaker 15: who are non citizens is the same as Hitler killing

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Speaker 15: actual citizens. They don't want you to know that there

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Speaker 15: is actually a difference between being an American and not

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Speaker 15: being an American, because to them, it means nothing to

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Speaker 15: be an American. They do not believe that Americans have

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Speaker 15: the right to insist that it means something to be

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Speaker 15: an American and that we owe something to our fellow Americans,

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Speaker 15: because they feel that they owe them nothing. They have

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Speaker 15: nothing but contempt for their fellow Americans, especially the working class.

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Speaker 3: Well, these comparisons with Hitler, they're not only offensive and absurd,

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Speaker 3: as you've just described, but he actually looked at that

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Speaker 3: rally at Madison Square Garden. There were Israeli flags, there

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Speaker 3: were plenty of Jews in attendance inside the venue and

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Speaker 3: outside the venue in the overflow area as well, and

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Speaker 3: the speakers were from all sorts of backgrounds, so we

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Speaker 3: had black speakers, brown speakers, and to characterize that as

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Speaker 3: some sort of white supremacist Nazi rally is so absurd.

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Speaker 3: But on your point about conflating illegal immigrants with legal migrants,

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Speaker 3: that is something that the Democrats do quite deliberately. Media

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Speaker 3: allow them to get awaye with that. Why do you

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Speaker 3: think that is You mentioned that for a lot of them,

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Speaker 3: being American doesn't actually mean anything, but surely those in

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Speaker 3: the media would want to make that distinction, that there

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Speaker 3: is actually a difference between illegal and lego migration.

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Speaker 15: They totally don't believe in that distinction. And the reason

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Speaker 15: for that is is that for the elites, the open

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Speaker 15: border is very much in their economic interests. They talk

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Speaker 15: about immigration through the lens of morality, we should help

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Speaker 15: these poor people from other countries, But they think about

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Speaker 15: immigration through an economic lens because the elites are the

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Speaker 15: consumers of low wage labor. They are the people employing

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Speaker 15: all of these illegal migrants, and of course they would

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Speaker 15: rather pay an illegal migrant a fraction of what they

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Speaker 15: would have to pay an American, So it is very

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Speaker 15: much in their interest to open that border. It is

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Speaker 15: the working class who pays for it. So this open

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Speaker 15: border situation that the Democrats have been pushing since Donald

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Speaker 15: Trump showed up on the scene has been an upward

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Speaker 15: transfer of wealth from the working class neighbors of the

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Speaker 15: elites into the pockets of the elites. And what's so ironic, Rita,

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Speaker 15: is that through the nineteen nineties, it was the Democrats

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Speaker 15: who insisted that we have a strong border because their

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Speaker 15: base was labor. It was the Democrats saying, why would

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Speaker 15: we allow millions of people to come here from other

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Speaker 15: countries and undercut our workers that's suicide. That is collective suicide.

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Speaker 15: When Donald Trump showed up and said, wow, we should

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Speaker 15: probably control immigration and protect our working class, the Democrats

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Speaker 15: realized that he had picked up not just their agenda,

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Speaker 15: but their working class base, increasingly of all races. As

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Speaker 15: you so beautifully pointed out out, the real threat that

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump pauses is not that he is a divider.

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Speaker 15: It's that he has united the working class in one

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Speaker 15: voice against the elites who hate them.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is why he's getting so much support from

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Speaker 3: members of the Hispanic community, increasingly from members of the

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Speaker 3: black community. And I want to ask you about that,

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Speaker 3: because we saw the Democrats kick an own goal when

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Speaker 3: they're sending Barack Obama out there to bret black men

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Speaker 3: for not supporting Kamala And now Michelle Obama is out

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Speaker 3: there lecturing men, let's play this clip from a rally

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Speaker 3: in Michigan. This is how we should view men. Apparently,

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Speaker 3: if we don't.

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Speaker 16: Get this election right, you're white, your daughter, your mother,

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Speaker 16: We as women will become collateral damage to your rage.

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Speaker 16: So are you, as men prepared to look into the

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Speaker 16: eyes of the women and children you love and tell

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Speaker 16: them that you supported this assault on our safety.

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Speaker 3: And she also suggested that if you don't vote for Kamala,

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Speaker 3: you're either racist or sexist.

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Speaker 16: What in the world is going on? And it's clear

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Speaker 16: to me that the question isn't whether Kamala is ready

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Speaker 16: for this moment, because by every measure she has demonstrated

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Speaker 16: that she's ready. The real country, the real question is,

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Speaker 16: as a country, are we ready for this moment?

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Speaker 3: She went on to demand that men put aside their

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Speaker 3: anger and vote for Kamala, and she also suggested that

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Speaker 3: women should demand their men do better and back Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Well that messaging work or is it just preaching to

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Speaker 3: the converted?

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Speaker 15: It's so amazing. I mean, can you imagine asking for

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Speaker 15: somebody's vote by telling them your only role here is

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Speaker 15: to shut up and become subservient to some other group.

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Speaker 15: Now that's insulting enough on its own, but bear in

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Speaker 15: mind that the last forty years of Democratic policy has

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Speaker 15: taken the jobs of American men of all races who

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Speaker 15: are working class, and either ship them overseas, defunded vocational training,

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Speaker 15: or imported an entire slave cast to do construction work.

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Speaker 15: So first they sold these men out. They made it

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Speaker 15: impossible for them to support a family on a single income.

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Speaker 15: Then they called them toxic if they dared protest and say,

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Speaker 15: wait a minute, maybe a society needs strong men. No, no,

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Speaker 15: that's toxic masculinity. And now to put the cherry on

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Speaker 15: the cake, they're telling them shut up, support women or

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Speaker 15: we will call you sai and racist. And the worst

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Speaker 15: part of this is is that this election is pitting

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Speaker 15: the real, urgent concerns of working class men over fake,

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Speaker 15: made up concerns of college educated and rich women. Why

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Speaker 15: is Michelle Obama, one of the last people on planet

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Speaker 15: Earth who will ever need an abortion, out there saying

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Speaker 15: her life is in danger and all of these women's

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Speaker 15: lives are in danger. They're not in danger. Daltrep promised

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Speaker 15: to veto a national abortion ban. They made up this concern,

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Speaker 15: this issue because it allows billionaire and millionaire women to

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Speaker 15: pretend that they are the oppressed, because somehow they are

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Speaker 15: related tangentially to a woman who might need a ninth

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Speaker 15: month abortion for some reason. Right, it is all about

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Speaker 15: who gets to larp as the oppressed. That's basically what

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Speaker 15: they're doing here.

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Speaker 3: Well, you write in your book Second Class about the

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Speaker 3: political real life alignment that we are seeing where the privileged, affluent,

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Speaker 3: often women, leaning left, and the working class, those who

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Speaker 3: are aspirational classes you may call them, are leaning increasingly right.

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Speaker 3: You argue America has broken its contract with its laboring class.

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Speaker 3: Explain what you mean by that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the real divide in America is not left versus right.

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Speaker 15: It's not god forbid racial it's the class divide that

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Speaker 15: separates out people with a college education from people who

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Speaker 15: work with their hands for a living and do the

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Speaker 15: jobs we all rely on to survive. And thanks to

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Speaker 15: forty years of democratic economic policy, they basically use the

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Speaker 15: economy as an upward funnel of wealth from the working

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Speaker 15: class to the college educated, so that now the top

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Speaker 15: twenty percent in America control over fifty percent of the

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Speaker 15: GDP and the working class is struggling. And that's why

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Speaker 15: they're abandoning the Democrats, because the Democrats abandoned them. And

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Speaker 15: I would say, even a little more subtly, they're not

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Speaker 15: moving to the right. They are voicing a radically moderate center,

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Speaker 15: which is exactly where Donald Trump is on every single

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Speaker 15: policy issue, which again is why they call him a fascist,

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Speaker 15: because the truth is such a threat to the Democrats.

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump showed up and picked up the reasonable new

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Speaker 15: Deal Democrat policies from the fifties through the nineties that

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Speaker 15: represent labor, and that's why they have to destroy him.

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Speaker 3: Now there's been a mass tantrum after leftist papers, the

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Speaker 3: LA Times and the Washington Posts refuse to formally endorse

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. This is unusual for both papers. Why do

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Speaker 3: you think they've taken that position? Because if you actually

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Speaker 3: look at their output, they just churn out anti trunk

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Speaker 3: pieces day and night, NonStop. Why aren't they formally endorsing Harris?

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Speaker 3: What's the thinking there?

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Speaker 15: Do you know what's so amazing, Rita is these are

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Speaker 15: the very organs that organized the coup against Joe Biden.

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Speaker 15: So they spent all of this capital because they thought

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Speaker 15: Biden was going to lose to get Kamala Harris elected

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Speaker 15: or put at the top of the ticket without having

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Speaker 15: won a single vote. And now that she's been at

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Speaker 15: the top of that ticket for three months, they realize, oh, actually,

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Speaker 15: we all knew Kamala all along, Like it's the same

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Speaker 15: person who failed to get a single vote in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 15: and they just don't want the egg on their face

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Speaker 15: at this point. It's so amazing to see how when

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Speaker 15: you mess with democracy it takes its revenge. I think

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Speaker 15: that's what we're really seeing here.

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Speaker 3: That's an excellent message. Thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: time tonight, Patiya Unga Sagon. Always a pleasure, and that's

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Speaker 3: all the time we've got tonight. I'll see you at

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Speaker 3: eleven tomorrow. Up next is Newsnight.