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Speaker 1: From the newsroom. A news still come to me.

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Speaker 2: Gooday, there, I'm Andrew Bucklow, and boy do I have

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Speaker 2: a fun episode for you today. I am joined by

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Speaker 2: a star from one of the most successful reality TV

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Speaker 2: shows in history, who Get This has worked with arguably

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Speaker 2: the world's most famous musician, and had this to say

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Speaker 2: about her.

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Speaker 1: I think Taylor Swift must be an alien?

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Speaker 2: Why does my guest think Taylor's an alien? For You're

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Speaker 2: just gonna have to keep listening to find out. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get this chat underway for you right now. Trinity

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Speaker 2: the Tuck is one of the world's most famous drag queens.

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Speaker 2: Hailing from Alabama, she rose to fame on RuPaul's Drag Race,

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Speaker 2: eventually taking home the crown on All Stars of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Since then, she has toured the world, released music, starred

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Speaker 2: in the Taylor Swift video, and now she's fighting vampires

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Speaker 2: in the to be original movie Sleigh Trinity Talk good eight. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you listed everything?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't list all your achievements. Welcome back to Australia.

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Speaker 2: I know you've been here before. I love watching these

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Speaker 2: TikTok videos right where Americans list all the weird things

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Speaker 2: they've noticed about our country, like the fact that burger

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Speaker 2: king is called hungry Jacks in some states, and that

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Speaker 2: we have dry through bottle shops, which I don't think

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Speaker 2: you have in the US. What is something random you

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Speaker 2: have noticed about our country that doesn't quite make sense

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say that there are giant spiders here,

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Speaker 1: like the size of a small dog. Okay, that is unusual.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I knew that you didn't like spiders, so

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Speaker 2: I've got a surprise for you. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, no, we don't have a budget on

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Speaker 2: this show. You've toured Australia a few times now, How

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Speaker 2: do Ossie audiences differ from American audiences?

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Speaker 1: And you know they're pretty much the same an accent,

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Speaker 1: he's hotter, Oh definitely Australians. Oh my goodness, Australian men

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Speaker 1: and women are beautiful and days. I don't want I

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Speaker 1: don't want to leave anybody out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this actually leads into my next little thing. I've

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Speaker 2: got a game for you. I've got some photos of

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Speaker 2: some famous aussie's acaine. I want you to rate them

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Speaker 2: on the scale of zero to ten. Zero beaning I

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Speaker 2: ain't a fan of them at all. Ten being I

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Speaker 2: am in love with this person. Okay, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: start with this man. It is the one and only

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Speaker 2: Robert Irwin his sexy Bonds underwear shoe. What do you

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Speaker 2: think of Robert Irwin? Out of zero to ten?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say five and let me let me,

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Speaker 1: let me hear me out. Hear me out, hear me out,

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Speaker 1: hear me out, hear me out. He's he's too young

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Speaker 1: for me. I mean, he's beautiful, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: I could probably be his parent. Okay, that is weird

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Speaker 1: to me. I would never. I think he's a very

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Speaker 1: attractive young man and I'm going to be a good

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Speaker 1: Christian lady and leave it at that. He had a

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Speaker 1: very large snake on his.

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Speaker 2: Shoulders though, So is that the only one?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? All right?

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Speaker 2: Photo number two, I'm going to show you. It's out

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Speaker 2: Aussie pop David Kylie Minogue zero to ten.

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Speaker 1: She is a thousand. I love Kylie.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I have been a super fan. I'm not usually

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Speaker 1: she headlined we have Pride in LA and I was like,

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Speaker 1: see her live. Because she was doing a long set.

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Speaker 1: I had an edible and I weaseled my way into

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Speaker 1: the front of where the concert was. There's all these speakers,

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Speaker 1: midway through her first song, I have to leave. How horrible.

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Speaker 2: That's awful.

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Speaker 1: Don't do drugs even if they're legal. All right.

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Speaker 2: One one of our favorite little twinks here in Australia.

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Speaker 2: It is the one and only Troy Savan Sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: I would say he's a good eight. You know, I

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Speaker 1: used to really love twinks, but now that I'm an

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Speaker 2: Do you think twinks have to be under a certain age?

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Speaker 2: So what do you reckon? The cutoff is for a twink.

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Speaker 1: You're probably in your twinies, and then after that you

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Speaker 2: At that point, Wow, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well are you?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I would have liked a bit more

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Speaker 2: surprise in your voice when when I said forty, you

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Speaker 2: just went, uh huh, well that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I'm off My knees are forty, so you know they

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Speaker 2: You are in Australia to promote a movie called Slay.

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Speaker 2: It's available to watch on two B, which is a

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Speaker 2: completely free streaming service. The movie is about four drag

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Speaker 2: queens who book a gig in a biker bar by mistake,

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Speaker 2: and then end up having to team up with those

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Speaker 2: bikers to fight off van.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about vampires?

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Speaker 2: Is there some sort of rule that they can come

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Speaker 2: inside unless they're invited? That gonna work? Not a single one.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, Jason Patrick, we need weapons.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing, Lucia split up?

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Speaker 2: I've venture into the basement, but I'm black, so I'll

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Speaker 2: take the back door.

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Speaker 1: Might as well go out and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It is so funny, it's like gloriously camped drag horror.

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Speaker 2: I would like to know. Was there a moment on

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Speaker 2: set where things went hilariously wrong? Were totally off script?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there were so many moments. So the

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Speaker 1: girls all had at stunt doubles, but me. We went

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Speaker 2: You're fine.

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Speaker 1: Those were the funniest moments because if you you gotta

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Speaker 1: picture of what their stunt doubles look like versus what

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Speaker 1: they look like in the face, Oh my.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, not flattering.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. No from the back though, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look like them, but no, in the face,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they didn't give you a stunt double,

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Speaker 2: because they're like, no, one's just pretty. We can't find

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Speaker 2: as pretty as stunt double as Trinity.

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Speaker 1: It was actually in my contract. No ugly people.

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Speaker 2: Now, you've done so many incredible things in your career,

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Speaker 2: the music video for Taylor Swift. You need to calm down.

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Speaker 2: What an incredible experience. Did you get much FaceTime with Taylor?

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Speaker 2: If so, what is Taylor Swift like? Everyone wants to know.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course, not only did I get to do

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Speaker 1: which was incredible. Yeah, she's absolutely a doll. She spends

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Speaker 1: She really takes care of them. Not only does she

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Speaker 1: dining phenomenally, You're in nice hotels, you have everything you need.

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Speaker 1: She goes above and beyond. She's very genuine love Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: There were so many celebrities in that music video alongside you, Ellen,

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Speaker 2: Katie Perry, Ryan Reynolds, Adam Lambert, the Queer Eye. Guys,

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Speaker 2: do you have a fun behind the scenes story about

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Speaker 2: one of the celebrities that you met that day?

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Speaker 1: We actually didn't interact with any other because she shot

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Speaker 1: these in sections, right, So I think each celebrity was

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Speaker 1: kind of like their own day and so our section

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Speaker 1: that I got to secee. But she was carrying around

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Speaker 1: her cat, her cat, her cat. Yeah, she has a

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Speaker 1: lot of cats. She loves cats.

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Speaker 2: Does she just carry in her arm? The cat doesn't

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Speaker 2: run away? Hated me, would always like jump out of

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Speaker 1: No, she has these trained.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Taylor Swift must be an alien

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Speaker 1: because everybody like even including cats, just love her.

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Speaker 2: Stick around in just a moment, Trinity is going to

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Speaker 2: tell us about a tucking accident, Yes, tucking accident that

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Speaker 2: left her with a black and bruised you know what,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. You are listening to my chat with drag

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Speaker 2: icon Trinity the tuck. You have performed on some of

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Speaker 2: the biggest stages in the world. Now, in the past,

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Speaker 2: you've talked about drag being both like an art and

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Speaker 2: an armor. Okay, what is being in drag give you

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Speaker 2: that out of drag? Trinity doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Did I say that? Was that something I said?

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that drag allows you to have this

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Speaker 1: confidence that maybe you're not necessarily naturally given when you're

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Speaker 1: because as quick people were bullied. We're made fun of

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Speaker 1: by the way we talk, we act, we look and

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Speaker 1: so when you're in drag, you're in control of what

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Speaker 1: you look like, act like, sound like, and I can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, drag isn't just for gay people either, you know,

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Speaker 2: like so many straight people love it. I have straight

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Speaker 2: to know, have straight men ever hit on you while

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, of course it happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at me.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever hooked up with a straight guy that

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Speaker 1: I would not say I hooked up with them like

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Speaker 1: right as they were hitting on me. But have I

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Speaker 1: hooked up in drag? Yes, twice in the same week.

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Speaker 1: But I've been doing drag for twenty two years. And

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Speaker 1: I was like when I first heard a drag and

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Speaker 1: for many many years, I said, no, absolutely not. This

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Speaker 1: is not for me. I don't want I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. It's too messy, too much makeup, too much,

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Speaker 1: two wigs, things can come off, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, you know what, I've got

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Speaker 1: to just experience this before I stopped doing drag because

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Speaker 1: you just never know that's right. And so I tried

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I like this.

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Speaker 1: Let let me do one more taste test just to see.

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Speaker 1: And I did it in the same week because I

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Speaker 1: did it and it was over as soon as it started.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is too much work for that

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Speaker 1: it was over.

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Speaker 2: As soon as it started. They'd obviously be too excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so never again.

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Speaker 2: Your name is obviously Trinity to talk. So I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about tucking. Okay, there are going to be

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Speaker 2: some people watching this, listening to this who have no

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Speaker 2: queen Art Simone, how they described it art. Simone said,

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Speaker 2: it's sausage origami. How do you explain it to people?

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Speaker 1: I think that is very appropriate. I think drag queens

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Speaker 1: we you have to go through training and I would say,

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Speaker 2: So it's the at of making yourself downstairs look more

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Speaker 1: Right, I wouldn't say look like a woman. You definitely

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Speaker 2: how does one talk? Well?

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Speaker 2: I read something about you on the internet that you're

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Speaker 2: God where you may have injured yourself once while talking.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you probably heard the story about my

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Speaker 1: first season of drag Race. Could yes, So drag Race,

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Speaker 1: And if you're in a costume that is teeny teeny

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Speaker 1: for hours, so you got to think tape tight adhesive

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Speaker 1: because of that. Yeah, you know, can you imagine your

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Speaker 1: I waited until after we filmed. As soon as we

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, please help me. I think I have

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Speaker 1: you're just allergic to that specific tape because of the

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Speaker 1: adhesive relief. And so I was like, oh, good, just

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Speaker 1: flesh eating bacteria, not an STI So it's come good now, Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's all good, it all it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Tudy, it has been such a pleasure to chat to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming to Australia and congrats

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Speaker 2: on the movie. Sleigh. Everyone should watch it on TV.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again, Yes, thanks for having me. She was

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Speaker 2: such a hoot and she looked incredible too. You can

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Speaker 2: photos there of the stunt doubles that she was talking about,

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Speaker 2: the ones that weren't exactly very flattering to the other

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Speaker 2: drag stars in the movie. All Right, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening. We'll be back with another episode next Friday,

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