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Speaker 1: Dr Stephanie Rimke, Welcome to the Heartiness Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here, doctor Paul.

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Speaker 3: Now, where do we find you?

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Speaker 2: Where? If I tell you, I am in Florida right now,

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Speaker 2: but I live in Atlanta. But so that's the State's

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Speaker 2: the warm parts by the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Smart move, very smart move. And tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit for the listeners. Tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your background.

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Speaker 2: Well, I started thirty years ago working in a mental

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Speaker 2: hospital with schizophrenics, and.

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Speaker 1: I was Jesus, that's a that's a baptism of that.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't your first real job, was it?

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Speaker 2: That was my first real job out of college. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it was a caseworker helping get schizophrenics, deciding and

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Speaker 2: selecting a game ready to go out into group homes,

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Speaker 2: ones who could be ready to live in a home

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Speaker 2: and be in more in the community and not in

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Speaker 2: the institutionalized setting. For women. It was women only that

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Speaker 2: I was working with, and it was an incredibly satisfying, rewarding,

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Speaker 2: and horrifying and frightening experience. At the same time, I

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Speaker 2: was taking a year off after I graduated to decide

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Speaker 2: did I really want to commit to the eight years

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Speaker 2: of medical school because I thought I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: an orthopedic surgeon, and my teachers in college were kind

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Speaker 2: of fighting over me that I was a psychology minor

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Speaker 2: and biology major and physical education sports kinesiology majors. I

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Speaker 2: had multiple majors Spanish as well, so they were like,

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Speaker 2: all right, child psychiatrists, orthopedic surgeon, and I needed to

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Speaker 2: take a minute to kind of figure it out. And

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Speaker 2: I ended up none of those things because I was

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Speaker 2: disgusted by the entire western medicine Rockefeller way of doing it.

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Speaker 2: By reading these case and what the drugs were doing

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Speaker 2: to these women, plus what seemed like almost organized violence

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Speaker 2: against people once they were in these state institutions, it

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Speaker 2: was just very interesting and horrifying and yet inspiring and

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Speaker 2: exciting and challenging, and I just said, there has got

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Speaker 2: to be a better way. This cannot be what we

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Speaker 2: are doing with people. This is unacceptable. This just can't

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Speaker 2: be it. So I'm going to go figure out where

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Speaker 2: what is. It took me down a long path of

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Speaker 2: being trained by an incredible psychiatrist out of Canada, doctor

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Speaker 2: Abram Hoffer, who worked with Carl Pfeiffer, and they created

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Speaker 2: orthomolecular psychiatry, ended up board sort of fied, and neural feedback,

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Speaker 2: so I was a talk therapist, I chiropractor, board certified,

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Speaker 2: and neural feedback pepside certified. I mean, I've been doing

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Speaker 2: a lot of things over that time span because my

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Speaker 2: genre and my niche and my passion became autism, schizophrenia, bipolar,

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Speaker 2: dissociat of identity PTSD, suicide, ideation, dyslexia, anxiety, basically all

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Speaker 2: the things that every pediatrician and psychiatrist is absolute shit

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Speaker 2: at doing is what I like to do because they

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Speaker 2: don't look at the brain, and all mental health issues

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Speaker 2: are brain issues, So they don't understand the structure and

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Speaker 2: function of the brain, and they don't look at it.

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Speaker 2: They don't test it, and they don't measure it. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you can diagnose and prescribe a

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Speaker 2: powerful drug to treat something you've never looked at or investigated.

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Speaker 2: But that's just me. So I look at the brain.

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Speaker 2: I measure it. My primary tools our nineteen channels, Z score,

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Speaker 2: Loretta brain maps. We do biofeedback and neurofeedback, but I

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Speaker 2: do a host of other functional urine and blad blood

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Speaker 2: and sometimes feekle testing that goes along with the orthomolecular psychiatry,

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Speaker 2: very small niche functional medicine. So I'm looking at trying

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Speaker 2: to get to the root cause of this and teaching

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Speaker 2: people brain equals behavior, You are not crazy, What if

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Speaker 2: you're just zinc deficient, what if you know you're starving

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Speaker 2: from this, or and trying to explain to them and

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Speaker 2: every psychologist I've ever had in my office working for me,

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Speaker 2: and every therapist I've ever worked with, and they are

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Speaker 2: incredible people and their hearts are there, but they don't

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Speaker 2: know dopamine from serotonin, from vasopressin, from oxytocin, from clotho

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Speaker 2: and the kidney. They literally have no idea how the

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Speaker 2: human body works and where emotions actually come from. And

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand what talking about it eventually for

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Speaker 3: It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I've had a couple of chats with Professor Joan Reid,

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Speaker 1: who is a researcher in psychology and mostly psychiatry, and

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Speaker 1: just discussing with him that there is not one of

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Speaker 1: the DSM category that has a clear consistent biological signature.

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Speaker 1: Yet we are we are led to believe that these

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Speaker 1: are biological conditions, right, but not one of them has

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Speaker 1: this clear signature which which has always kind of.

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Speaker 2: Markers to them for sure. They just don't know. They

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Speaker 2: don't accept it, they don't look for it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can't. Psychiatrists as a whole will fight against you

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Speaker 2: to take a test. They don't think. Their minds can't

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Speaker 2: wrap around you would ever do blood urine genetic testing,

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Speaker 2: an MRI, a functional MRI, a qe g. Anything to diagnose.

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Speaker 2: They're so entrained there's no such tests, so it doesn't

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Speaker 2: surprise me they don't have that. But I can show

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Speaker 2: you spec scans, which are not my favorite, but nineteen

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Speaker 2: thirteen subtypes of ADHD. It is a real biological issue,

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Speaker 2: and I can show you the differences, and you have

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Speaker 2: to treat them all different, and adderall and riddlin are

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Speaker 2: not any of the solutions. But there are real things.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that there are some signatures if you do

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Speaker 1: If you're saying that, if you do do the right

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Speaker 1: clear signatures that are starting to show up.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And there's a hundred other neurological conditions that look like, say,

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Speaker 2: attention deficit. You have to differentiate. I've had people walk

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Speaker 2: in with that diagnosis from a psychiatrist on medications, and

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Speaker 2: it's actually an undiagnosed seizure disorder. I caught the seizures.

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Speaker 2: It's actually severe anxiety panic. It's associative identity multipersonality disorder,

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Speaker 2: it's auditory processing disorder. I mean, we test it, but

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Speaker 2: like that's the issue. You don't have anything in your

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Speaker 2: their prefuncal cortex. You don't have this. Sometimes it's a

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Speaker 2: zinc deficiency. When's the last time you guys measure their zinc.

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Speaker 2: That is the most important mineral in my mind in

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Speaker 2: and eight times out of ten, if I get zinc right,

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Speaker 2: everything else fixes itself.

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Speaker 3: So talk us through what zinc then does in the brain.

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Speaker 1: And let's just take a let's just take a couple

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Speaker 1: of things in what do you talk about automolecular psychiatry.

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Speaker 1: So let's first of all hold in on zinc. So

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Speaker 1: talk us through, or talk our listeners through the role

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Speaker 2: It's so many that I'm not going to be able

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Speaker 2: I give everybody charts because it's like it's overwhelming. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of saying, what does growth hormone? Do? You have?

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Speaker 2: Five hours? Right? Simply always remembering everything in nature and

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Speaker 2: has a coupled system and nothing is working alone and independently. Right.

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Speaker 2: We inhale, we exhale their sun. There's the moon, there's

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Speaker 2: night day, there's male female. We have a couple system

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Speaker 2: You can't do one without affecting the other. So gas, brake,

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Speaker 2: So Zinc and copper have a beautiful relationship, just like

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Speaker 2: you know, sodium potassium, calcium magnesium. People hurt, Oh cal

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Speaker 2: meg is a supplement. Oh yeah, sodium potassium pump. You've

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Speaker 2: heard these things from sixth grade biology or something. When

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Speaker 2: you're learning about a cell. Right, so zinc though, is

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Speaker 2: so critical. The brain is this incredible organ I consider

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Speaker 2: the spinal cord brain tissue. I don't consider it very separate.

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Speaker 2: That's why the brain, the spotal corn earned housed by

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Speaker 2: you know, bone, because they're so so important. But we

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Speaker 2: It's a very It's a closed system that does communicate

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Speaker 2: don't need to know every micro nutrient in your big

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Speaker 2: think some people want to overtest things that make a

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Speaker 2: That is not where your anxiety is coming from. It's this, right,

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Speaker 2: let's get back to sometimes basics. I think people get

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Speaker 2: too fancy. So Zinc is required directly in the converted

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Speaker 2: required to make testosterone. It's required to indirectly then serotonin

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Speaker 2: acetoclon gab up. So all these incredible neurotransmitter neuropeptides that

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Speaker 2: neuro transmitters are made in your gut. That's great. None

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Speaker 2: of those NeuroD transmitters go inside your brain, though there's

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Speaker 2: Dopamine is a molecule of you and I I'm sure

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Speaker 2: have a tremendous amount of it. We're highly dopaminergic type people.

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Speaker 2: So dopamine is a molecule of more makes you curious,

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Speaker 2: it makes you. People mistakenly call it a feel good chemical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's not true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's inappropriate. You know, it does feel good, but

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Speaker 2: it has an addictive quality. You can absolutely get addicted

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Speaker 2: it makes you curious, you want to learn things, you

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Speaker 4: It's not well, yes, and different than cortisol, right, which

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Speaker 4: then engaged, like oh, so when you fall in love

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Speaker 2: Cortisol spikes damn, she looks good. You know, you're like,

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Speaker 2: whoa this cortisol first, and then dopamine. She opens her

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Speaker 2: That's food, you know, sugar, alcohol, drugs, porn, gambling, dopamine.

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Speaker 1: They you'll find that people will bounce from one thing

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Speaker 1: they're not really into their exercise or something like that.

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Speaker 2: of a stable way. It's often people who are zinc

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Speaker 2: usually highly zinc deficient people who end up looking they're

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Speaker 2: still anxious. I can measure their brain. I can tell you,

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Ultra processed foods which are known to increase anxiety

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Speaker 3: Of a whole heap of neurotransmitters. How are they supposed

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Speaker 2: Many children, because of the high palette, because their mother

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Speaker 2: You can clearly go it's ADHD, it's anxiety, it's none

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Speaker 2: because of something called neuroplasticity, and we can just reverse

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 5: That's the beauty of this, none of the Let's talk

429
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Speaker 5: about what interventions. But before we do that, let's talk

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Speaker 5: about the nervous system in general.

431
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned a bit of eagle tone.

432
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Speaker 1: You've hinted at at least the sympathetic nervous system.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about nervous system regulation in general, and then.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into things that we can kind of do

435
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Speaker 1: about it. Why is the nervous system, I mean, it's

436
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: a pretty obvious question, but that the it's important in

437
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: behavior and the over stimulation and understimulation of the nervous system,

438
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Speaker 1: let's explode.

439
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in general, we've made up these divisions so

440
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: our human brains can kind of understand and categorize because

441
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: we need to separate things. Not obviously none of it's

442
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: really separate, but uh, you know, we're a really old

443
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: biological animal and we're living in the biology of us.

444
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: Anatomy physiology has hasn't changed at all, but our environment

445
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: has radically changed. So our relationship with the environment, right

446
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: living in houses, TVs that you know, like wearing clothes

447
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: like all of.

448
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: It's very neutral environment.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's just a huge difference of the but

450
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Speaker 2: the anatomy physiology isn't the same. But the further we

451
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Speaker 2: get away from living that way, the larger these excursions

452
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: show up in nervous systems. So I just want people

453
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Speaker 2: to understand, if you're out with indigenous tribes who don't

454
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: have technological interventions and don't have some of the social

455
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: constructs that we have, and don't have access to the

456
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: addiction to comfort that we've basically created, they don't have

457
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: these problems. I'm gonna mention, I'm just going to point

458
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: that out. Okay, So, the normal state for the human

459
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: body is to be overwhelmingly dominant parasympathetic. That is the rest,

460
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: digest neutral aliveness. It's alive, it's repair, it's not flat

461
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: and empty. I think sometimes people think it means sleep.

462
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it is joyful, it is present, it's

463
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: it's relaxed and ready to go. Okay. The sympathetic activity

464
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: is supposed to be basically a very short lived thing

465
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Speaker 2: you might not really get to do every day. Some

466
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: people might go hunt out every day, but everybody's doing

467
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Speaker 2: that all the time. It's the fight, flight, freeze, fawn response.

468
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Speaker 2: So you know, in modern day language, I'm a woman,

469
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Speaker 2: pretty much, what do I need fight or flight for?

470
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm running away from a dog or some man going

471
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Speaker 2: to hurt me. I'm either going to get away, and

472
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Speaker 2: it's going to take me what thirty to ninety seconds

473
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Speaker 2: to figure that. I should go as hard as I

474
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Speaker 2: can to the point I might vomit. I'm so explosive

475
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: in that energy, so intense and physical output to get

476
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Speaker 2: away from a life or death. If a man grabs me,

477
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Speaker 2: now I have to fight again. I've only got so

478
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Speaker 2: much time. Okay, I'm either going to get away. I'm

479
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Speaker 2: going to win the fight, or I'm going to die.

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00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: That's what the simple that's the only reason the sympathetic

481
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: nervous system should really be activated some quick emergency situation

482
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Speaker 2: where you must respond physically physically, not be still typically,

483
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: and if you are still, something's going to happen to

484
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: you really quick, and it's going to be over pretty quickly. Right,

485
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Speaker 2: It's not designed to go on for even several minutes,

486
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Speaker 2: I mean much less hours, much less days or months.

487
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Speaker 2: So in those short verse when we get away, it's

488
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Speaker 2: always it's been proven in nature, we strongly adapt and

489
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: become much more resilient. Our immune system gets better, everything

490
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: about us gets better. If we get away or when

491
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Speaker 2: that fight or whatever happens and we make it okay,

492
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Speaker 2: everything is better about it. It's true for every mammal.

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Speaker 2: So the gazelle that gets taken down by the lion

494
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: and then escapes is stronger for it. When they recover,

495
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: everything about them is better. We're the same, However, we're

496
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: having life and death physical unconscious responses because of our

497
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Speaker 2: interpretation in modern life of something life or death traffic.

498
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Speaker 2: I mean, what a show it can be, right, I mean,

499
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: you know, people's blood pressures going up cortisols, but you

500
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Speaker 2: can watch people get red, you can watch shiting.

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Speaker 1: You're not moving, Stephanie, right, is like the distress that's

502
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Speaker 1: coming in the psychological straction.

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Speaker 2: We're not just charge it. Yeah, the body it wants

504
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Speaker 2: to run or punch. I mean, it's like that's what

505
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Speaker 2: it's built to do. You get it. I mean we

506
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Speaker 2: all know the stories, these famous stories of the mother

507
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Speaker 2: who lifted a car off her children after an accident,

508
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Speaker 2: some extraordinary feat. She'd never why could you do that?

509
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Because of the stress chemicals surging through her body that

510
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: made her extraort. Let me tell you, there's nobody stronger

511
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: than a schizophrenic who's scared. I have never seen the physicality.

512
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Speaker 2: It's a very scary. I've seen sixty year old ladies

513
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: take down three six foot five men, I mean destroy them.

514
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's superhuman. What can happen in a

515
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: fear panic state to a person. It can make you

516
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: extraordinarily successful to get away from a situation, which is fantastic.

517
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Speaker 2: But sitting trapped in a car or at a dinner table,

518
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Speaker 2: and you know your husband's having an affair, and you

519
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: have a child with autism, and you know your mother's

520
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: has all time that's a very stressful place for a

521
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Speaker 2: woman to be. So what is she doing eating cake

522
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: and drinking wine because she's like, I don't know what

523
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: else to do right now, that's what she's got to

524
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: try to manage this. So let me say, so we

525
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: should be rest, digest neutral. We're all amped up, and

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Speaker 2: the chemicals that are there that are good. I don't

527
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Speaker 2: think there's a single thing the body makes that's bad.

528
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Speaker 2: But at too long, in the wrong inappropriate time and

529
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: for too long, they start destroying the body. They have

530
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: catabolic breakdown properties and it's very draining, intopleting, and so

531
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Speaker 2: the system, you know, we wanted. Most people are spiking

532
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: up in activation throughout the day and they never coming

533
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: back down to neutral. So if neutral is zero in

534
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: pure panic, running is ten. They might be walking around

535
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Speaker 2: at a five or four all the time. So shooting

536
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: up to eight, nine or ten is very easy for

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00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: the nervous system to do. So, right, so just to

538
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: give me that, that's the general gist of my job

539
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: is to teach them how to shift you into para

540
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: sympathetic over and over and over again at will, so

541
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: this becomes your new normal, which can be hard because

542
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: they're addicted to that. Those chemicals are highly addictive as well,

543
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: and so that to them, they think is what they're

544
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: how they're supposed to be. So to feel calm for

545
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: many people is actually very comfortable, but that's part of

546
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: the process of taking time to do it, so it's

547
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: not as quick as it sounds. Nice. But some people

548
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: don't know what it's hard to they're addicted to the chaos, right, and.

549
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Speaker 1: Some people Stephanie are well, a lot of people will

550
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Speaker 1: come home, let's make this practical. They'll come home from

551
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Speaker 1: a stressful day where they're disregulated in terms of their

552
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: nervous system, and they think, Jesus, that's been a hard

553
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: day and they want to recover. But they're actually relaxing,

554
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: not recovering. And I say to people, sitting in front

555
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: of the television with your feet up with a bottle

556
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: of iron and ship food, watching Netflix with your partner

557
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: is relaxation.

558
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Speaker 3: It's not recovery.

559
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's no role lever for relaxation,

560
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Speaker 1: but do not kid yourself that you're recovering, because you're

561
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Speaker 1: stimulating your sympathetic nervous system even more, even low level.

562
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Speaker 2: That's what they need to understand when I explain that

563
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Speaker 2: to people, because I'm as incredibly anti media, anti TV person,

564
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 2: haven't own one for thirty five years. My son never

565
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: see a show till he was twelve. I went and

566
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: those a school Waldorf has no computers, no technology, none

567
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: of it. And like, because it's not the content, it's

568
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: the actual medium itself. And the way the lights are

569
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: flickering on the screen that are exactly the same as

570
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: how we are hardwired visually to see flickering lights in

571
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: the forest and the grass, like, because that means there's

572
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: somebody coming. So the way a screen, I don't care

573
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: if it's a child's cartoon or you think it's an

574
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: educational documentary, it is putting your brain in fight or flight.

575
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: And so that's why it feels. And what happens is

576
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: that much stimulation the system goes. This is what happens

577
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: with the biology of trauma. When you're in state two anxiety.

578
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: You can only this is where your work around heartiness

579
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: comes in. And I don't use that term, and I

580
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: don't use that. I talk about overwhelming the nervous system,

581
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: which is really the breaking point of the mitochondria. It

582
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: says I'm done. I can't sustain this any longer, and

583
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: we have collapse. So we have some breakpoint some people's

584
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: The heartiness does determine where your breakpoint is. How what's

585
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: the endurance of how long you can go right? And

586
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: your fitness level, your mental fitness, your physical fitness has

587
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: many reasons that develop mental age determines this. Right, there's

588
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: a breaking point. So what happens though, when we leave

589
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: acute stress anxiety, the body has to there's a parasympathetic overtake.

590
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: There's an override. It says, I'm gonna I'm gonna shut

591
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: this down. I cannot handle it. So the dorsal vagel

592
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: part of the vegas arvitation here, I think, takes over.

593
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: We've already had some danger response. We've already everything's breaking apart.

594
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Calcium shells develop and we we've got all kinds of

595
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: problems up here. You know, osteoporosis is setting in. You're

596
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: not doing great, but the system says, I can't handle

597
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: it even watching the movie. So this is why it

598
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: feels relaxing, because it's what it's doing is it's helping

599
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: you dissociate, which is actually a state three trauma response.

600
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: They're using dissociation and confusing that with relaxation. That is

601
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: not the same thing. You know, so, and every show

602
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: does it. Every screen, if they're watching anything, it's doing

603
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: the same response. It's why I don't I don't allow

604
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: any children are coming to me for care. There is

605
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: not a screen allowed Monday through Friday. I'm like, nope.

606
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: If you're doing nerfit is you assign a contract with me,

607
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: There'll be none of this because I will not have

608
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: what we're doing be reversed by what you That screen.

609
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty minutes of a TV screen on a child's

610
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: brain literally will override everything they've learned all day in school.

611
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: They need time to develop their own images, their own

612
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: pictures to turn that information long term memory. What screens

613
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: can do and how powerful we've made images now and complicated,

614
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: they have no chance of If they're watching Avatar is

615
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: the book they read? Are they going to be able

616
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: to create the images that are ever going to override

617
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: what they saw? They can't. That's why they don't remember

618
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: what they read, because you took it the opportunity away

619
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: from their neurology.

620
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, you overstimulated them.

621
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: And overstimulated and it's creating dopamine depletion, and that you're

622
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: creating no networks that know how to do anything wrong.

623
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: So all of the screens are creating dyslexia, are creating ADHD,

624
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: and are creating anxiety. And we're at a culture now

625
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: where people are handing their phones to six month old

626
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: nine months like little babies in a stroller are looking

627
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: at screens. I've never seen anything, and it, you know,

628
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: takes everything in me. So I've written a lot about that,

629
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: like the dangers of no child to me should see

630
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: a screen before twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: I read at a start recently that just scarred the

632
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: shit out of me. The average American kid size teenager

633
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: is spending four to six hours on a screen outside

634
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: of school, right, So that's outside of school's four to

635
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: six hours per day, like six hours. That's twenty five

636
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: percent of your day of the and that's.

637
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Speaker 3: The entire day. If you take out, if we take

638
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: out sleeping and.

639
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Being in bed, you know, we're up to forty percent

640
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: of the day with that external stimulation and which clearly

641
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: can't be good. Let's talk about let's talk about rebalancing

642
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: a disregulated nervous SYSM.

643
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned neurofeedback. You mentioned biofeedback.

644
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Speaker 1: First of all, what sort of tools are you using,

645
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: are you using HRV, what sort of tools are you

646
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: using both to measure somebody's nervous system the state of

647
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: their nervous system, and then in terms of the intervention

648
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: and what sort of things do you use and what's

649
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the whole picture look?

650
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I've been using HIV heart math for

651
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: you know, as long as twenty years or whatever. We

652
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: so HIV every session actually, so that's kind of a

653
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: pre warm up and EEGs. I do a lot of

654
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: just the qegs. You can do them very very quickly,

655
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: assess everything. And then the live training you're seeing exactly

656
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: what's happening. You're like, I can tell we can't they

657
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: can't bring beta down, or this is through the roof today,

658
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: where's the alpha whatever? You can see it. So in

659
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: neuro feedback you can see it. I use a lot

660
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: of light, so I also do I used to do

661
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: sound testing, so we do measuring of tone. So the

662
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: ears open up, so you have to address all this.

663
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: You have to deal with the ears, the mouth, the eyes,

664
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: and the brain because that input is going into the brain, right,

665
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: So where is the information. Where's the hiccup? Right? So

666
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: sometimes we have to stop what we're doing and they

667
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: need therapy because the coordination of the muscles is deranged

668
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: and we have to do exercises. Sometimes it's the it's

669
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: they can't hear the sound. So when you're an infant,

670
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: right when you're born, you come out, you hear very

671
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: it's very low frequency. Because inside the womb it sounds

672
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: like a washing machine. It's very low. A lot of

673
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: people they make the mistake and think babies need quiet, like, no,

674
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: they don't, so why they like washing machines and vacuum ears.

675
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: And they like this low like noise. Yet right, they're used.

676
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: To they want to be on the mother. They're used

677
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: to hearing her voice through the body and how that vibrates.

678
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: Its very very low frequency. So we measure the frequencies

679
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: that the brain can hear, that the ears can hear,

680
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: because the frequencies go to different parts of the lower

681
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: It goes to the lower brain before we get up

682
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: to the prefrontal cortex, so not until so they open

683
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: up every year. So if I can see a twelve

684
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: year old is shut down at seven hundred herd, So

685
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, they can't hear the sounds above this very well.

686
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: So I know the year the physical or emotional trauma happens, like, oh, oh,

687
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: does something happen at five? Was there a surgery or

688
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: was there a divorce or what happened? I could see

689
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: the ages. I go, oh, it's at one hundred and

690
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: twenty five hurts. I'm like, okay, we're shut down there.

691
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: I have a fourteen year old can't really differentiate sound. Now,

692
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they have a hearing problem. It means

693
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: they have a tonal problem because tone the frequencies. You know,

694
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: So you're a father, right, I know you have kids, right,

695
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: how old are they?

696
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: Nineteen and fifteen?

697
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know if you did this, but

698
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: a lot of men do this. But you are brain guys,

699
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: so maybe you didn't. A lot of men get in

700
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: trouble because men like to be sarcastic. It's like a

701
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: thing you guys seem to do more, and they will

702
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: make sarcastic jokes with children and then the kids will

703
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: cry and then you're like, but I was kidding, and

704
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: then the wife is like, what are you an idiot?

705
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: You just think you'll understand that so why little kids

706
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: and people with autism don't understand tone, It is because

707
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: I could say this, pick up your bag off the floor.

708
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: Pick up your bag off the floor, very different, right,

709
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: so you should volume, no change in volume. It was all.

710
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: Tonal tone developmentally driven.

711
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: Every year it opens up more because a five year

712
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: old shouldn't be able to pick up the tone of

713
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: a fourteen tone. Those frequencies five hundred, seven hundred fifty hertz,

714
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: thousand herds, three thousand herds. There is different information in

715
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: five thousand hurts than there is in one thousand hertz.

716
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: There's emotional information in the tone. Children don't need to

717
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: know that information. That's why parents can say things to

718
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: each other and they don't know what you just said,

719
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: especially when you use tone.

720
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: It's also same with dogs, right dogs, yes, yes.

721
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: So to give you an idea, and this is why

722
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: we use Mozart's music so much. So the average normal

723
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: it's normal to hear up to Oh gosh, I hope

724
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: I get it right, about eighteen thousand. It's either fifteen

725
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: thousand or eighteen thousand herds. It's been a minute, sins,

726
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: I said it. That's how But you'ren't born hearing that.

727
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: If you are, it's actually sensory overwhelming. We see many

728
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: autistic kids will be open and it's so much sound

729
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: and information. They're like, they can't handle it because you're

730
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: not supposed to hear all that. You're supposed to see

731
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: your mother's face and hear her voice, and everybody else

732
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: can go to help. They're very internally focused. They're all

733
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: delta wave driven. They don't care. They only see so

734
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: far because they can't take in that much information. That's

735
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: all that matters is her.

736
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: It's how my little kids always look like they're on

737
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: acid trips.

738
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes, they're all delta theta waves. They're so hard you're

739
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: just like whoah, yeah. And when they start to see

740
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: other stuff, it's like what is going on? Yeah, because

741
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: they're literally opening up to seeing. They don't see the

742
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: world the same. Mozarts music goes up to twenty thousand hurts.

743
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: He heard sounds other people can't hear, so he embedded

744
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: his music. It's why his music makes people smarter, because

745
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: it has more information and more openness to it than

746
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: anything else we've heard. We have a reason we think

747
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: we mother was a cello player and she played against

748
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: rebelly and he was he had so much vibration sound

749
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: percussion it altered his own ear and waited. So I

750
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: look at sound, We look at that, we look at

751
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: I use a lot of lights, so I do a

752
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: lot of that, but I do start with basics. I

753
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: don't want people going to technology. What are you putting

754
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: in your mouth? How do you sleep? What is your

755
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: relationship to nature? When's the last time you went to

756
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: a forest? You know? Like put the phone down, you know,

757
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: like I'm I want it to be things they can get.

758
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: Most of the things I'm going to recommend are basically free,

759
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: and it's.

760
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, this is what I'm king Stephanie is to say. Okay,

761
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: So so for the listener, now let's get into what

762
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: can they do by themselves, and then what sort of biofeedback,

763
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: neurofeedback things might be out there that they could use

764
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: for themselves just to try to regulate their nervous systems

765
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: a bit better.

766
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: So, for sure, neural feedback with a board certified neurofeedback therapist,

767
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: not somebody who bought something on Amazon is charging you

768
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: for sessions. Get somebody who is board certified, and I

769
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: can give you the websites where you can find the

770
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: clinicians that have been trained all over the world that

771
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: have gone through the training, the hard work, the mentorship,

772
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: taking the test, did what we had to do to

773
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: get a board certification. Because it's very, very different, and

774
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: we specialize in different things. Not everybody somebody's like we do.

775
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: We do ADHD, anxiety, sleep disorders. I only only do seizures,

776
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: concussions and this, and it I'm super into. I do

777
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: the alcoholics of drug addicts, the severe trauma. So you know,

778
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: a four therapists in my office and like, the guys

779
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: didn't do any of the rape trauma. That is solely me.

780
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: My technicians didn't like the interns weren't comfortable with I'm like,

781
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: I got it. I'm gonna handle all the screaming. You

782
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: guys go over there and just do the ADHD. Really like,

783
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: that's easy, so believe it or ADHD anxiety panic PTSD

784
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: easy with neurofeedback. These are easy. And you're being told

785
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: that these things are hard and permanent and not reversible.

786
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent bullshit. Okay, we'll have a small

787
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: group of people who will be non responders, but even

788
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: then that clinician is going to know what to tell

789
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: you what to do now to help a brain change need,

790
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: you can't just send workers to fix a road with

791
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: some brooms, but we don't give them asphalt and concrete

792
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: and tar. So I'm the neurofeedback is the working and

793
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: you're going to be doing the XITE CrossFit for the brain.

794
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to take you and basically train

795
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: you to run a marathon, I must feed you well,

796
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: I must hydrate you well. I must sleep you well

797
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: or I'm going to hurt you. And this is not

798
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: going to work for us.

799
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: So lots of neuroplasticity, right, they need those to need that.

800
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: They need the zinc, the amino acids of protein, the cholesterol,

801
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: the minerals. I need those B vitamins and magnesium, the

802
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: kolonie and the omega three's. There's only so many things

803
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: the brain needs, but I cannot go without it, and

804
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: most likely you are depleted in those things. That's why

805
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: you ended up in this way. And the brain is

806
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: not doing anything stupid if it needs to make a

807
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: bunch of alpha theater waves, it's trying to slow you

808
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: down from some over arousal problem. So we might have

809
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: we created slowness to deal with. You know what it's

810
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: like for a dyslexic child to walk in that nobody

811
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: knows is having that problem and they can't explain it.

812
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: To be in a classroom year after year when they

813
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: finally figure out they're different and every you know, like

814
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: they feel, this is a highly stressful thing for that child.

815
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: Then they know that to them, something's wrong with me.

816
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm broken, and they don't know how to

817
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: tell anybody. So then they're just suffering in silence. So

818
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: now school becomes one of the most horrifying places to go.

819
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: They've probably been getting in trouble, they've probably been getting

820
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: bad grades, they might have had their name written on

821
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: a board. They're like seven, eight nine. This can feel

822
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: like war to them now, right, So now we have

823
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: an anxiety problem on top of the learning disorder. Right,

824
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: So you have to so that it does take time,

825
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: might take months and layers to get through it, but

826
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: you can do it. So I just want to say,

827
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: neural feedback is one of my favorite modalities out there period,

828
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: and children do extraordinarily well when you teach them. You're

829
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: in charge of this. You are not a victim. Here.

830
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Let me show you, how strong and powerful you are.

831
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: Look at your brain. Look how beautiful you are. I

832
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: show them the brain maps. I show them all you

833
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: gotta do. See all that yellow that's not supposed to

834
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: be there, it'supposed to be like this. All you're gonna

835
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: do is you're gonna play the video games with your mind.

836
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: You're going to control.

837
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: So yes, just to explain to some people may have

838
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: not heard of neuro feedback, Stephanie. So, so there's pretty

839
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: cool video games where you're like you're moving a hot

840
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: or balloon or whatever, but you have.

841
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: To be in certain bream way of states to be able.

842
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: To do just a state yeap, whatever we're working on.

843
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: So some people that's focused, some people that's relaxation. Some

844
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: people those are the two big ones. But you're like,

845
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: whatever we're asking your brain to do, you just have

846
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: to do that. And as you get rewarded, and the brain,

847
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: like the just says, I like to win, and so

848
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: it just does it unconsciously. All I have to do

849
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: is plant the seed and your brain takes over and

850
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: children grab. They don't fight you, they don't think it's

851
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: not real. They I don't have to deal with all

852
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: that monkey mind they don't do it. They're like, that

853
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: was awesome, And I mean you just let them know,

854
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: then you then you turn them into there are they're

855
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: a strong warrior, sovereign over their body, not a victim

856
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: to some diagnosis, and certainly not a victim to taking

857
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: a drug for the rest of their life because they're

858
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: broken and they have a disorder. So I throw that

859
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: ship out the door. It's like, nothing is wrong with you.

860
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: You do not have these letters after your name. Never

861
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: say that again. Never say my ADHD, my anxiety.

862
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: I detest that when people say I'm on it because

863
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: it's like, Whatno, it's a core, deep part of you.

864
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: It's like, I think that's the wrong with your identity.

865
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: But that's if you want to keep them on a

866
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: drug for life, you tell them you have this chemical

867
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: imbalance for life. No, the child hasn't had a stake

868
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: in four years. Why don't we just see them? Why

869
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: don't you stop giving them brownies for breakfast? That's how

870
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: I do it, Paul. I'm like, why don't you being stupid?

871
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is incredible how many people, And look,

872
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: some of this is just not knowing.

873
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: It's a lack of education, right.

874
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: And then some of it is well, I know, but

875
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: maybe I don't really believe, and some of it is

876
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: just well, it's a shit. A lot easier to do this,

877
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Like the unsexy truth is that for a lot of people,

878
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: if they exercise well, they eat well, they sleep well,

879
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: they recover well, and a lot of shit would actually disappear.

880
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: Right.

881
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: And I've actually said to the point of, let's just

882
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: take exercise, and I think we could replace exercise with

883
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: lots of things that we see in the in the

884
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: in the research that exercises a way more powerful intervention

885
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: than SSRIs for depression.

886
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: Right, That's been shown over and over again.

887
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: There was a recent British Medical Journal article that that

888
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: compared two underd and eighteen studies, and so that exercise

889
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: blows SSRIs out of the water. And I talked to

890
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: people about what happens when you're exercising. Don't mean serotonin

891
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: or adrenaline and cannabinoids and falins and doorphins, and it's

892
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: and it's not so much that exercise is an antidepressant,

893
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: it's that being sedentary is a depressant.

894
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: Right.

895
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: And then for me, the same thing as applying with

896
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: sleep and all of those It's not just that sleep

897
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: is good for you or good nutrition is good for you.

898
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: It's that if you're not doing it, you're an active

899
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: agent and the destruction of your own physical and mental health, right,

900
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: And that's a different that's a different lens to look

901
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: at it through.

902
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: It is and I'm you know, here's where I'm careful

903
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: about the language. And I know you're an exercise physiologist

904
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: and this is you know you you work. Do you

905
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: work primarily with men?

906
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 3: No? No, no, I work with corporate.

907
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: So I'm careful about using that word because most people

908
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: don't like the way it sounds. Want no seven year

909
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: old wants to exercise, like I don't want to experis

910
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: when I was seven eight? But who the hell? Nobody?

911
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody who Actually my mother didn't exercise.

912
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: We all played, Yeah, yeah.

913
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: We all played. Play is a very different word, and

914
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: it's a very different thing. Play requires all mammals play,

915
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: but it requires looking at each other, It requires another person,

916
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: and it requires face to eye contact. It requires checking

917
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: in with the face, reading what's going on. And it's

918
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: this very complicated and it requires movement. So you have

919
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: to have a face and you have to have movement.

920
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: You could play with your dog or your cat. Believe

921
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: it or not. Absolutely, we are still picking up cues.

922
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: That's why we're deciding and looking. Are we good? Are

923
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: we serious? Are we about to really punch each other?

924
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: Or are we still play fighting? Is he going to

925
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: kill me? Or no? We're good? Okay? Cool? You know.

926
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: And for adults, the ultimate play what happens is sex,

927
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: and so many people throw that away as if it's

928
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: a luxury. I'm like, no, mamma, this is your number

929
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: one so sport. What are you talking about? How are

930
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: you guys not doing this every day? Who the hell

931
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: wants to exercise? But I want to let's get busy

932
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: in the bed? Baby? What I don't want to exercise, Paul,

933
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I'm just telling you.

934
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: You say that to a special needs mom who hasn't slept.

935
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: That she's like, yeah, I'm tired.

936
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: But playing is different because that automatically gives her some movement,

937
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: has some energy. It's fun. You have enough a participant,

938
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: you have community of something.

939
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: You can go dance, go dance.

940
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: Yes, remember one prescribing is I tell people to say

941
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: dance lessons. That's the most powerful cognitive decline. Thing you

942
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: can do is take formal dancing lessons.

943
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: And actually dancing is one of the most successful interventions

944
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: for old people in preventing roles.

945
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: Incredible, let's cross hemispheric movement fires so much to think

946
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: about it. Plus then you have music playing and they're

947
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: touching someone.

948
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, on top of all of that, the muscles

949
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: are decelerating under control, right, And it's that loss of

950
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: the ability to decelerate under control that that actually creates

951
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: false But I am aware of this.

952
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: We start with eating. I'm just on. We start with basics.

953
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: I want basic nutrition. I want animal based nutrition. I

954
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: want that to be very very strong. I don't want

955
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: as little fake foods. There's no more. I focus for

956
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: children and adults. Breakfast to me again, especially sending these

957
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: children off to school, and they're giving them like pop

958
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: tarts and a Coca cola. They're wondering why at ten o'clock,

959
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: little Timmy is losing his mind and he's both and

960
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: he got to watch TV or a movie on his

961
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: iPad while he ate that protein cereal bar in the

962
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: back of the car. And you wonder why at ten

963
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: am he is bouncing off the walls and he's bored

964
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: out of his mind listening to Miss Susie go over algebra?

965
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, are you are we all this stupid? I

966
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: would be, you know what I'm saying. So so I

967
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: literally tell people, I'm like, so you're gonna buy a

968
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 2: crock pot. They're like what I'm like, Listen, we're gonna

969
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: help you get a crock pot. You have to cook.

970
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: You could just put it in the morning, and it's

971
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: going to be dinner, right Like, I understand everyone's busy.

972
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: And so what we've gotten is again this ultimate lie

973
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: that we're not supposed to work anymore. We're not supposed

974
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: to do anything any like. The ultimate sign of success now,

975
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: at least here is I don't cut my own grass,

976
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't clean my own roof. I don't clean my gutters.

977
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: I don't do my laundry, I don't make my bed.

978
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: I got a housekeeper, a yard keeper, a long guy.

979
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That that was a kid.

980
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: Everybody did everything. They shoveled the snow, they cleaned everything,

981
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: They worked, They cooked. My mother cooked the hot breakfast

982
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: every single day. She still had three jobs, but she

983
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: cooked that. We didn't eat cereal. That was like not

984
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: food okay, cooked and we ate hot food okay. Again,

985
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: the most bioavailable for the things your brain needs, the cholesterol,

986
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: all the fat, the b vitamins of zinc, the copper,

987
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: everything in perfect ratios and bioavailable. All of that you

988
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: need is in eggs and meat.

989
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: So that's the really interesting sorry, Stephanie little aside. I

990
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: interviewed Professor Felice Jaka, who started the nutritional psychiatry movement.

991
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Right She's a psychiatrist also treatined as a dietitian. And

992
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: she told me that when she started doing her PhD,

993
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: she was looking at the impact of food on mood.

994
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: And she said to me, paul I was vegan.

995
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't remember if she still is,

996
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: but she said, and she said, I had an existential

997
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: crisis because my research actually showed that animal based foods

998
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: are meat and meat, and that other animal based foods

999
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: were hugely important for mental health and and so and

1000
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: this is not and I say to people, a lot

1001
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: of people, if they're vegetarian and vegan, often there's strong

1002
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: ethical reasons for that. And I'm like, I get it,

1003
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,479
Speaker 1: I completely get it, but particularly when we're talking about

1004
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: brain health and somebody who's been stressed for a long

1005
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: period of time. Because Bruce Eum's professor bruceiums theory and

1006
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: about that, that basically shows that your body prioritized the

1007
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: creation of stress hormones, and when you're highly stressed, it

1008
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: robs the brain and nervous system of nutrients to create

1009
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: those stress hormones, so you get a depleted brain. And

1010
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: then if you're not eating those animal based foods, so

1011
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: they're really important to all those nutrients that you do.

1012
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: You describe you you're just really you're pretty, and it's

1013
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: just kind of cold.

1014
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: It's an animal. We are animal. We are all protein minerals.

1015
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: In fat. There's only two thousand calories of a carb

1016
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: in me and stores of glycogen. That's it. You know

1017
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 2: how hard it is to turn kale and broccoli into

1018
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: a human brain. It's extraordinarily difficult. And every cell in

1019
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: your body makes cholesterol. The brain is primarily cholesterol, and

1020
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: it makes all of its own. Please tell me how

1021
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: that's going to kill you. Please tell me how. The

1022
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: thing I mean again, what they've been genius at is

1023
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: telling you the things that your body does naturally to

1024
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: perform well are somehow dangerous and reckless for you. And

1025
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: then so people have been starving themselves are the things

1026
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: that they really need. So that's where I start with people.

1027
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: I was a vegan for twelve years. I no longer

1028
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: take any vegans. I will never work with them again.

1029
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: It's almost it's virtual. Neural feedback doesn't work. Their brains

1030
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: can't hold a charge. So it does work, it's going

1031
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: to always reverse. And so I figured that out, and

1032
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't just keep taking your money, because

1033
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: you will have to continue for life. Neural feedback is permanent.

1034
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: We hit a point done. It's not like a muscle.

1035
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't atrophy. It actually just keeps getting better. It

1036
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 2: will never happen in a vegan brain.

1037
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: Wow, it's not a single.

1038
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: Natural indigenous culture on Earth that is vegan. They all

1039
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: would go, they'd be sterile, and they would never approcate.

1040
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: It wouldn't work. It doesn't work. Humans, by nature, in nature,

1041
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: never make that choice. They're all hyper carnivore. They all

1042
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: have an incredibly at least seventy percent of their diet

1043
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: is animal based, and most of them, the longest living

1044
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: cultures are almost all The Russians have figured this out,

1045
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: So all, yeah, eating that way is the only way

1046
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: to handle schizophrenia, autism and gut disorders.

1047
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: It is the only way that's interesting. And so getting

1048
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: the diet right you talked about.

1049
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: It to go with a lot of circadian biology with

1050
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: the sun, teaching the clocks of the body in a

1051
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: simple way, like listen, if you could do the one thing,

1052
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: if the only thing people can do is start to

1053
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: align themselves to see the sunrise before any other light,

1054
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: no context, no glasses outside, as much eye and skin

1055
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: as we can. What that does to reset sleep rhythms

1056
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: and hormones and drop the cortisol down and get things

1057
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: the way and start bringing appetite back on and the

1058
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: way we need it and releasing the melotone. It make

1059
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: you make dopamine and serotonin and melatonin from sunlight in

1060
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: your eyes in the morning. So I want to hit

1061
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: every avenue to teach them how their body is working.

1062
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: So in light is a nutrient. I'm like, you're missing

1063
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Speaker 2: the most important thing. Then if I can get midday,

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: we do the midday, then we get the sunset, you

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: know I do. Then I teach them about the lighting

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01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: and the how I teach them all these things slowly,

1067
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: like can you convert to candles at night? Can you convert?

1068
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: Put put red or or salt lamps on the floor

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01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: and turn the overhead up? Like it just starts start

1070
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: thinking about what you would live like if you went.

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01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: This.

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01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: This is exactly the point I was about to say,

1073
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: is that no animal does well when they're taken out

1074
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: of their natural environment, none of right and and human being,

1075
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: why would be Why would we be so arrogant to

1076
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: think that we would be different?

1077
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Speaker 3: Right?

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01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: And you know, we know that spanning time in nature

1079
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: is anti inflammatory, you know, and that spanning a shit

1080
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: heap of time indoors just drives inflammation, disrupts circadian rhythms,

1081
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: and and I think me and you could do a

1082
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: whole politicast on circadian disruption.

1083
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: But just being indoors is actually physically stressful to your system.

1084
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: I have higher stress hormones running through my body sitting

1085
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: here under these lights inside this house than if I

1086
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: was in the backyard, And just what looking at nature

1087
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: and experience of it physically, it alters all my brain waves,

1088
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: which then alters all my neurochemistry, which also you know,

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: we're bringing in bacteria through there. There's so many things,

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Speaker 2: but I mean University of Michigan to the studies. People

1091
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: solve problems completely differently in a forest and they do

1092
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: in a library. You are smarter outside. I get a

1093
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: simple things I do and like then they're doing homework.

1094
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: You got to have a table outside. Great, all the

1095
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: homeworks outside from now on. Stop having them be in

1096
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: their bedroom with four computer Pull all the computers out

1097
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: of your bedroom, all the TV's out of your bedroom,

1098
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: turn off your wife. I get hardcore Pauls, but I

1099
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: take a long time to do it. Start with basics.

1100
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: If your great grandmama was over at your house, she

1101
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: would feed you, she would give you a bath at

1102
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: seven thirty at night, and you would go to bed,

1103
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: go to bed, read a book, be bored. So I

1104
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: think people should let their children be bored as well.

1105
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: We do a lot of that. Don't entertain them. They

1106
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: have to learn how to use imagination. Imagination is a

1107
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: wonderful thing. They have to learn to solve problems. So

1108
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: that's where I start again. I don't I'm not going

1109
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: to start doing hard brain exercises on someone that is

1110
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: starving for nutrients based sleep rhythm, you know, and is drained.

1111
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: It's like that'd be taken like you would Newhorn mother

1112
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: and say let's train you for a marathon. You're sleeping

1113
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: two hours a night. It's like, let's use Wait what

1114
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: that would that would be? So you can't I don't,

1115
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't fast and anorexic. We have to feed that person.

1116
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: So you have to start with a system that's strong

1117
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: enough to do some of these things, and you may

1118
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: not have to do some of the I think all

1119
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: the electromagnetic therapies are amazing. I use a lot of

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01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: also devices vagel stem I like to yes, I love

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01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: the whole list. That's my favorite one. People which one?

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: Which one coolest? H I don't know if you guys

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: can get it there. It's small. You can put it

1124
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: in a pocket and think it's in my purse, but

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Speaker 2: they can. It's so it's it's the best one I've

1126
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: ever seen. I love the V light. I've got that

1127
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: here VI I like. I love the V light, So

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: I like the alpha and the gamma. So I use

1129
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: I will bring the devices. I love them to have

1130
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: home devices, something they can own at the whole whole

1131
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: family can use.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask Stephanie just on that just

1133
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: because we are running out of time. Is there a

1134
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: good neuro feedback program that people can use that they

1135
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: can use You know those video games where you're moving

1136
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: the things.

1137
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Speaker 3: With your You've got to get your Brian and yeah,

1138
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 3: what's a good commercial one.

1139
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: I would still think you need to see a therapist

1140
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: and get a good good I do remote neual feedback,

1141
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but I am limited in the

1142
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: type of patients I can see. So I've had seven

1143
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: different neurofeedback systems in the inside brick and mortar, but

1144
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: remotely is you You are limited. You can't do as

1145
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: many things. It doesn't really matter if you go see

1146
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: like I can say, well, I like brain Master and

1147
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: I like that. It doesn't matter what the doctor is

1148
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: going to be using. If you go so b C

1149
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: i A dot org or I s n R dot

1150
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 2: org are two certification organizations where you can look up

1151
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: a practitioner who is board certified in either one of those,

1152
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: and it'll range from chiropractors to talk therapists to neurologists

1153
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: like and obviously they'll do me doing different types of training.

1154
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean to get a nice image. What's

1155
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: the baseline. Is it ADHD or is it anxiety? Is

1156
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: it a concussion? What's happening? You don't have you don't sleep? Well,

1157
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: let's see why. Is there something we can see? How

1158
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: many points on a line can we show Is neurofeedback

1159
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: going to help that or not? They're good at telling you.

1160
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: It's like I've had people come to me for things

1161
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I have no idea if I can

1162
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: help you with that. I'm like, there's nothing in the

1163
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: literature like we're so good at ADHD where alcoholism seizures sleeps.

1164
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: Everybody gets better with sleep. That's super easy to do.

1165
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: SMR is a sleep spindle. It's a low level twelve

1166
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: to fourteen fifteen hertz beta wave that's made in the

1167
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: sensory motor cortex only that's where all the sleep spindles

1168
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 2: are made. And we just help you make SMR. Everybody

1169
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: gets better. I mean it's believable. That's so some of

1170
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: that you can do at home. My remote system I

1171
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: use is mind lift, but there's many others. I would

1172
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: not recommend just buying something and training yourself.

1173
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: I think even even the likes of heart maths xfinitely,

1174
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: which is just kind of.

1175
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: That's not the same, right, So that's it's a form

1176
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: of bio. Yes, that's fine. That's not neural feedback. That's

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: a prep. So we do heart math before every session

1178
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: to help with calming the system and then oxygenating the

1179
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: brain and then we do the neural feedback and it's

1180
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: more effective. So yes, I love it's not neural feedback though.

1181
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

1182
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: But simple tools they can do. I love heart math,

1183
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: I love the wholeist. I love V light devices.

1184
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: Is that the I G like A I E L.

1185
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Speaker 2: I G H T. They're out of Canada. Yeah, they're very,

1186
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: very good. So those are some easy like again Parkinson's dementia,

1187
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: traumatic brain injury, sleep. They're incredible for that meditation. They help,

1188
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: they help enhance you with that. So you start with

1189
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: the basics, and I think seeing somebody who understands has

1190
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: the philosophy, there's nothing that's incurable. You can reverse everything.

1191
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: That should be the first If you don't remember, if

1192
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: a clinician doesn't believe that, I would walk right out

1193
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 2: the door. You know, I wouldn't want Why would you

1194
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: want to work with this person? Because they see you

1195
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: as a victim and they see you as weak. I

1196
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: don't want to talk to those people. I'm like, no,

1197
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: thank you, Okay, give me somebody else. So you want

1198
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: somebody who can see the best version of you or

1199
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: your child, the one that you can't even see yet. Right,

1200
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: that's my job as to hold an image over here

1201
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 2: and pull you along until you see it for yourself.

1202
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: And when you can, I'm out of the way. You

1203
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: fire my job. My goal is you fire me. I

1204
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: don't need any more doctor, Thank you so much. Peace out.

1205
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad you don't high five and fire everybody else,

1206
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: fire all of your therapists. You know, so one day

1207
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: you should be like, I want to fire everybody. You know,

1208
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: you shouldn't go to the doctor five times a week.

1209
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: But that's what people are doing.

1210
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 3: Well, well, yeah, that that is true.

1211
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to have somebody for all of your life.

1212
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: Right, you're right.

1213
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: The goal of any good interventionist should be that that

1214
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: they ultimately end up firing.

1215
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: Don't keep me now, you know what to do. Yeah,

1216
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: it's there, you're stable. You know how to do it

1217
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: yourself if you if you need help, you know where

1218
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: we are. You know, Like, that's it. I don't want

1219
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: to see you forever. Why, I mean, send me a

1220
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: car to Christmas. Merry Christmas. Keep me up to date,

1221
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: and they do. I keep up to date. I know

1222
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: what my kids are doing. I know the kids who

1223
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: were arrested, who are doing drugs, and our attorneys now

1224
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,919
Speaker 2: and our psychiatrists and our surgeons. These were my patients.

1225
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: So they tell me. I know where they are. And

1226
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: they were thrown away, they were in handcuffs, and I'm like,

1227
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: this is that that go? First of all, there's nothing

1228
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: wrong with you. Stop thinking he's a problem. Let me

1229
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: just show you what you're doing, what your brain is doing.

1230
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: Something kind of happened, like kind of doesn't matter. Maybe

1231
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: you fell in your head. Maybe maybe it's all the

1232
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: twizzler in the canie you're eating. But I'm gonna need

1233
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: to do a few things. You got to stop eating

1234
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: these few things for me to do this, and then

1235
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: all the rest of all do Like, kids will get

1236
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: on board if you stop talking to them like they're morons,

1237
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: and you stop condescending to them, if you tell them

1238
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: they're strong and powerful, and you know they always want

1239
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: to be bigger, better, faster, stronger. So that's why I

1240
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: talk to them. I don't. They don't want to be

1241
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: calm like a careless you know, mom needs calm, you know,

1242
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: so you talk to them. I talk to a child

1243
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: very different than I talk to a man, very different

1244
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: than I talk to a woman. You guys want different things,

1245
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: and so I say different language. But for them to

1246
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: see you did this and I don't ever, let don't

1247
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: thank me. They're like, you just said I didn't do it.

1248
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: You did it. I just was your coach. You won

1249
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: the game, you know. So that's kind of that's for

1250
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: people who need help. You do need to start with

1251
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 2: the basics, and you need to be around people who understand.

1252
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: A great book that could say people parents could get

1253
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: symphony in the brain. It's by Robins and it's a

1254
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: written really well about neurow feedback. And I also like

1255
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh's nutrient therapy. These are for lay people. I

1256
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,440
Speaker 2: think they're really nice, really easy to understand.

1257
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 3: Cool.

1258
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: And so where do people go to find out more

1259
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: about you in your book?

1260
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: You have me mentioned your book you're promoting. We need

1261
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: to talk about your book.

1262
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: Notes. So a book that has not a single citation,

1263
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't talk about anything I just talked about, but

1264
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: it's basically they It's called Receive the Dance of Feminine Power.

1265
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: And I wrote this not really as a clinician, but

1266
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: you get to see more of what Stephanie Rimka has

1267
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,440
Speaker 2: had to go through. But being a clinician is important,

1268
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: and it's written for all the women patients I've had,

1269
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: or the mothers of all the patients I've had, where

1270
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mama, you've misunderstood your role. And women have

1271
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: and I fell victim to it too. We've really over

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: masculinized ourselves, like the idea of like you've got to

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: be strong and a bad ass and a bad bitch,

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: and it's just so aggressive. And I did what I

1275
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: had to do to survive, but it is not a

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01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: way to thrive and really the greatest power so I

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: talk of and I'm the mother of a boy's twenty, right,

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: so I honor the masculine. I don't degrade it in

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 2: anyone and you or myself. But I try to explain

1280
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: women have taken this on and they're not doing it well,

1281
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: and they're emasculating men. They're never knowing how to receive

1282
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: the ultimate feminine power is that we are receptors and

1283
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: we magnify and amplify anything you give us. And that's amazing,

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01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,919
Speaker 2: and that's wonderful. And women have forgotten this. They've forgotten

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01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: how to be soft, how to surrender, how to I

1286
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: was ashamed of my feminine. I wasn't comfortable with it.

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: I think you had to be tough, you got to

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: kick people's ass. I mean, this was that's what's going

1289
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: to get me through in life and so and being

1290
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: in healthcare will tell you. I think the big problem

1291
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: with what it has become, the sick care that it

1292
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,839
Speaker 2: is the model is based upon violence, war, military speak.

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: It is devoid of the feminine. And the right hemisphere

1294
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: is pure feminine connection to spirit, intuition, God source. And

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: if we keep acting like that's not true and dominated

1296
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: only by the left hemisphere, logic, linear, get shit done,

1297
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: you are missing the power of who you really are.

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I wrote it about. But it's not

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: about science, and it's about my own journey of a

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: broken heart that kind of happened. Even though it's not

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: an autobiography, so I wouldn't call it a self help book.

1302
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: It's more of a love story to myself and to

1303
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: all the women out there. But shockingly. Men love this

1304
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: book and talk to me about it all the time.

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: You know, they're reading it with their wives and they're like,

1306
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, it was so good, you know, making

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: them cry. It's a lot of lyric like lyrical poetry

1308
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: written actually, so it's not it's very right hemisphere. It's

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: very feminine, it's very beautiful. It's like a dance. So anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 2: on website doctor Rimka dot com it because you've.

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Speaker 3: Got You've got also got coursious on your website as way.

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01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of courses I do and

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: I have membership, so you know some of my most

1314
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: of my courses are for women, but some are not.

1315
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: So I range, you know, I clinically teach peptid therapy

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: for clinicians only out of a university. I do continuing

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: education for clinicians. I'll be speaking next month in New

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: York and an aesthetics conference. So I speak on a

1319
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: number of topics. I train on mitochondria and you know, exercise.

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: All those things you said are true, and I don't

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: think any of those are the most important. I think

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01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: the most important thing movement does is that it increases

1323
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: the amount of christe inside of the mitochondria, and that

1324
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: is the only reason I even like doing it. I'm like,

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: well it does what Michael, I'm like, because that is

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: the most important thing. So I'm a science geek. I

1327
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 2: like weird stuff like voltage and charge and what molecules

1328
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: do inside of mitochondria. But I also love poetry and

1329
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: beauty and art, and so that book lets you explore

1330
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: that part of me. But doctor Rimpa gets into the

1331
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: courses that are very science based. But I merge the

1332
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: feminine spirit and soul into everything that I do. I'm

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: not going to talk about it. The way Western medicine is.

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: So very cool. Thank you for your time and your

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 3: religious level.

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01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: Of knowledge across a huge amount of things that are

1337
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: are important for the human being.

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Speaker 3: So keep doing your awesome mark.

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 2: Thank you, My pleasure.