WEBVTT - #1897 Interviewed By A Listener - Kelly Smith (PT2) 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.280 I get a team, ID your bloody terrific yesterday or 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.240 the other day or whenever you heard it. If you 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.160 heard it young Kelly Smith, who's a I guess I 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.560 could say fan of the show, listener of the show. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.840 And Kel and I intersect at the gym. We high five, 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.200 we say a low to each other. We're not besties, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.240 but we're certainly acquainted, and I think I can safely 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:25.840 say we like each other. And Kel said, when I 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.360 was doing a Q and a kind of call out, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.440 could I come on and ask some questions? And I said, fuck, yeah, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.160 saves me hosting. So she's put up her hand to host, 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.479 and she's back with me, Hi, Kel, Hi, Craig. It 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.280 feels only like a few minutes ago. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:47.920 We were doing this momentarily momentarily interesting though. I was 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.120 kind of putting my hand up to ask other people's questions. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.960 And then you said, give me fifteen and you can 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.279 come and interview me. And I thought, challenge, accepted, let's go, 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:58.720 well that that. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.680 Is absolutely true you wanted to ask, and I went, well, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.920 fuck it, you're pretty clever. I reckon you should, and 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.000 as I said last episode, I love what you've done. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.000 These questions are really good, and I will say that 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.800 we're probably okay. I was excessively for both. So we're 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.560 going to do another five questions. We'll try and get 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.120 through them. I don't think you listeners mine though, but 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.320 Melissa mins Melsa, She's like, can you do them a 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.600 little bit shorter? So yesterday we're not going to go 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.520 through them again. But we spoke about a range of 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.000 different stuff like any single messages that are on point 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.480 in the fitness industry and ones that are missing the point. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.959 And we spoke about why perhaps I'm more open and 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.800 vulnerable these days. And we also spoke about what I've 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.320 learned over the last ten years, what's been the biggest 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.520 takeaways or lessons, And also we chatted a bit about 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:58.080 my PhD. But question one for today is question six 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.880 on your list, kel and what is that question? 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.080 This question is and it goes back to what we've 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.720 previously mentioned, but what is it within yourself that has 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.720 led you towards what could be described as a life 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.320 of service? 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.880 Yeah, that's a good that's a good question. So do 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.240 you know what There's one thing that I hesitate to 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.920 talk about because I feel like I'm being disrespectful to 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:34.160 part of my journey and some people who are still 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.720 in a place that I'm not really that much in. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:41.600 And that is my kind of my my theological background, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.040 like my my you know, I grew up in a 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.360 Catholic church, but then I went and I spent quite 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.280 a quite more than a few years in other what 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:56.320 we would call fundamental Christian churches, very very biblically focused, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:03.360 and I spent a lot of time reading, studying, you know, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.919 basically Genesis to Revelation, first book in the Old Testament 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.560 through the last book in the New Testament and everything 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.400 in between, and trying to understand that I always had 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.520 a I always had what do I call it a 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:23.720 God curiosity, and I had a faith of sorts, but 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.600 it didn't it was kind of incomplete. I didn't really know, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.960 you know, what that meant, but I did I wanted to, like, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.680 for me, part of my deep dive into any kind 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:41.600 of faith or spiritual kind of path was really trying 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.040 to connect with something bigger than me, which you know, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.800 some people call God, some people call the divine, some 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.400 people call like you know that kind of you know, 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:57.360 mystical not magical, but you know, insight, wisdom, you know, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.440 the conduit to that that's bigger and better me. So 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:06.520 for me, you know, realizing that, like there was a 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.640 lot I didn't like about me when I was young, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.400 and we've spoken about that, but I felt like when 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.960 I was in that that that kind of searching space, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:22.360 that spiritual searching space, I actually liked me more because 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:32.960 I was less selfish and and less less about yeah, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:38.280 less less about Craig. And I've always felt like the 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.160 more my life isn't about me, right, the more I'm 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.040 not focused on me. Yes, I need to I need 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.279 to eat, and I need to have a job and 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.240 make money, and I need to make sure that, you know, 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.760 there needs to be a level of focus on myself 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.880 so that I can manage me so that I'm good 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.400 for others. But I've always felt through that period, that 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.920 church period and beyond that I'm a better person when 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:06.400 I've got a purpose bigger than me and so that, Yeah, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.159 and I know when I'm helping people, when I'm serving people, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.160 By the way, can I be an asshole? Of course 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.360 I can do I get trapped in ego and bullshit, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:20.960 yes I do. But I know that genuinely when I'm 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:27.360 you know, doing something that it's not strategic. There's nothing 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.520 in it for me other than maybe to feel good, right, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.839 But I'm not doing it even for that. I'm just 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.960 doing it because this person needs it. You know. Many 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.520 times people have said to me, how come you're helping, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.080 and I go, because you need help, and they think 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.480 there's got to be another reason that doesn't And obviously 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.200 I can't do that for everyone, with everyone, and you know, yeah, 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.240 I still get paid to do different shit. But these 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.039 days I would say of all of the things that 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.960 I do, you know, like speaking with people, helping people 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.760 doing you know, like on I won't even say who 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.840 for but we're recording this Tuesday night. Thursday night, I 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.039 got asked to do a talk for a school at 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:13.719 four pm to the teachers and they don't have a budget. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.440 And I'm like, sure, I'll do it. And I'm not 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.720 doing it because makes me look good. I'm doing it 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:24.720 because hopefully, you know, I can help someone. And if 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:29.400 I'm getting paid zero or five grand, they get exactly 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.800 the same quality of me, right, And for me, that's 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.400 really you know important, Like of course I'm going to 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.240 go earn money and do stuff, but also I want 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.479 to have at least a percentage of my life, and 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.120 I hope that gets bigger as the years go on, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.800 where I'm just doing it because it's serving and it's 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.440 helping and you know, and I think also there's a 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:58.240 kind of wealth, and that's a spiritual wealth that that 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:04.480 kind of grows when you're not all about self service, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.680 if you know what I mean that. I feel like 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:11.720 that was messy, but I I feel like I have 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.240 in This sounds so lame, but I'm going to say 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.600 it's not the right word, but it's close. I feel 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.760 like I have an innate calling to help people. I 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:22.960 think that's my purpose. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.240 That's a beautiful thing, isn't it. And I don't think 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.240 it was messy how you described it, because you started 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.360 off by saying that you didn't want to be disrespectful, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.360 and so it was very you were very selective in 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.120 the words that you were using and how you were 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.160 talking about it. But it also goes back to you 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.120 talking about how you said previously in the first episode 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:50.640 that living your values is quite often very hard, but 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.120 what you just described is exactly that, and it seems 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:59.480 like the way that you do it is that putting 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.280 yourself out. They're in service to other people leaves less 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:08.520 time for wondering about Craig, and that seems to be 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.960 the spot where I don't know, it's just the golden 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:14.600 point for you. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.240 Yeah, and honestly, and this is going to sound weird 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.800 as well, but I'm just going to say it, like 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.600 all the hate and hurt and echo chambers and online vitriol, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.480 and it makes me sad. And I know it's not 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.040 gone away, but it makes me sad. And I just 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.320 and I know I'm an idealist, and I know that 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.760 you know it ain't going to happen anytime soon, if ever, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.360 but imagine, imagine if we just had a world built 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:51.960 around love. Imagine imagine like imagine if you know, like 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.880 we just even when you think about the division between countries, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.840 it's like we're literally killing other humans and rationalizing it. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.120 I know that this is much bigger than this chat, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.880 but god, I don't get it. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.480 But anyway, it does make you think though, that if 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.640 if more people were being a bit of service and 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:21.920 actually leading with love and kindness rather than ego, where 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.280 could we be? You know, where could be? 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.319 But you know, one good thing, I think I think 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.800 a lot of people, not all people, but a lot 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:36.320 of people at their core can be fucking amazingly beautiful 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:42.880 and kind, and you know, like you know when someone's 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:48.440 really like fucked and somebody's like the amount of people 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.840 there might be two or three, it might be twenty, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.000 but who often will come out of the woodwork and 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.719 go anything you need, Like, what do you need? How 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.600 can I help? And I try to be that for 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.320 as many people as I can practically, and like I've 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:11.800 met people that I how do I say this? So 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.600 people that I people approach me about people in their 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:20.640 life that are struggling with stuff, right, big, big, big stuff. 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.000 And I can't do it all the time, but whenever 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.440 I can, I sit with those people and I go, look, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.840 I'm the I don't know, I don't have the answers, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:35.040 but like in that moment, I feel like when they go, oh, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.160 here's a guy who's quite busy, who's got a bit 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.240 of a profile, who doesn't know me, and he's sitting 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.959 there and he's all about me, and I go, I 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.280 am all about you. I don't give a fuck what 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.360 else goes on for the next hour or so, nothing 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.320 else matters to me. For the moment, all that matters 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.160 to me for the moment, for this hour that we're 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.000 together is you. I'm not going to look at my phone. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.599 I'm not going to crack a joke. I don't want you, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.080 you don't owe me anything. I'm not special. I'm just 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.480 here because you need someone to be here. And maybe 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.880 I've got some thoughts and ideas that might be of 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:16.160 value or not, we'll see, but that anyone can do that. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.800 You don't need to be a coach or a psychologist 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.120 or you can go. Look, I'm I'm just going to 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:23.920 sit with you and talk to you and look at 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.760 you and fucking be with you. You know, imagine if 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:33.320 we all just did that. Imagine, imagine, imagine I feel 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.640 like I'm banged on too long? 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:35.079 All right? 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.200 What about me? Going? Oh, this one will be quicker? 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.240 And then I talk for twenty minutes on the first 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.480 fuck I can't learn Harper. Question two. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.160 Question two. So, with all of this, and I think 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.560 you may have touched on it with some previous answers, 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.200 but when did being accountable really clicking for you? So 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:04.760 that would be you know, living in alignment, walking me talk. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.160 Okay, So the very very first time, the very first 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:18.320 time was when I started tracking slash diarizing everything I 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.720 did with my training. I'm not saying that was a 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.600 moment of enlightenment or great wisdom, but where I realized that, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.200 so I started being accountable in terms of tracking my 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.080 food and my exercise and what I ate and when 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.840 I ate, and my sleep and coffee and tea and 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:45.520 supplements and all of that stuff. Where I started to create, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.440 you know, or try to create a protocol that worked 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:54.240 for me, and tried to understand by doing all of 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.600 these things and tracking all of these things and identifying 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.280 all of these things and being accountable in that everything 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.240 I did to my body, I wrote it down. I 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:09.480 didn't I didn't leave anything out. What that did was 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.880 it gave me a very steep learning curve about, at 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.640 the very least, how my body worked, How my body 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.839 responded to training in the morning versus training in the 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:26.120 night or the afternoon, How my body worked with you know, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.640 egg protein versus chicken or beef, How my body worked 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.280 with two meals a day or three or four meals 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.760 a day's same calories but divided up how you know everything. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.120 What time of day was best for me to do cardio, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.400 What time of day was best for me even cognitively, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.520 like when does my brain work best? What supplements was 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.280 I taking and what did I notice? Like I would 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.440 back in the day when supplements, you know, like I 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.520 used to take all these different amino as acids and 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.320 nothing illegal, everything you could buy over the counter, and 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:07.280 desicated liver and fucking but I would take thirty pills 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.000 a day. And I remember doing an experiment where I 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.440 stopped everything except food, so no supplements for two weeks. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.839 I felt exactly the same. So I just ditched all 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.080 my all of the stuff, which clearly was doing nothing. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.240 Yeah, dexicated whatever, ye. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.720 Desicated liver, which sounds fucking disgusting, and it is, I'm sure, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.560 but they were just no, no, no, it's not actually liver. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.000 It's like pills, pills, like dehydrated. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.440 Yeah. I'm surprised that wasn't doing anything for you, honestly. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.840 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well I've probably had enough iron in 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.800 my diet without that. But yeah, So that was when, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.840 you know, But then as I started developing businesses and 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.000 you know, I opened my first business at twenty six, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.080 I needed to be pretty responsible and accountable. So that 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.560 was a steep learning. But I would say around my 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:10.120 mid twenties, I started to be a little bit more methodical, accountable, practical, 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.640 rather than just the freestyling fuck with that I was 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:15.880 until that point in time. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.160 Well done, twenties is pretty early, isn't it to be 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.200 self aware and to lock in on that. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.400 Well, you know, there were still moments, as we know, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:32.640 a question. Oh this was an interesting question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.120 this was I've was not ready for this question. Yep, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:36.440 go on. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.960 Really okay, So describe your favorite kind of person. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.240 I mean, based on what I've been speaking about, you know, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.040 no surprise, but people who just people who, like you said, 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.280 lead with love, people who you know, like people who 0:15:55.320 --> 0:16:06.200 give without strategy or agenda or expectation, people who people 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.479 who live with gratitude and a level of self awareness 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.520 and humility. I know, that's you know whatever. But people 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.440 who love watching others, genuinely love watching others succeed, you know. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:24.200 And people who, as Stephen Covey says and many other 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.000 authors over the years, but people who seek first to understand. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.240 So people who are really interested in it, understanding the 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:38.680 person in front of them rather than pushing to be understood. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.800 give me attention, listen to me, understand me, meet my needs, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.320 be what I need, fuck all that. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.560 Yeah, you know, like. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.280 People who you know, it's like one of my favorite, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.040 one of my top ten people in the world. And 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.840 I know a lot of people. Is Johnny that I 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.920 train in the gym, who you know and you've met 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.960 and you've seen probably hundreds of times at the gym 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.119 with me, you know, And here's a guy who's in 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.159 his seventies. You know, he's got an full disclosure so 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.840 you might want to put your fingers in years. But 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.800 he's got a bag for poo and a bag for wei, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.520 and he's got a spinal cord injury, and he's got 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.959 a traumatic brain injury. And I fucking love him. And 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.080 he's just the best person. And he's just grateful, and 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.160 he's humble, and he's loving, and he's kind and he's 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.520 a sweetheart. And I just there ain't many people that 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.040 I think more highly of than him. And he's the 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.240 person that most people would walk past not even notice. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.760 Yeah. Look, I've seen him working out a number of times, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:52.800 and I feel like he radiates something that is like 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:58.639 a warmth. He's he's always got an acknowledgment. Well for me, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.800 like I think I've given him a smile and a 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:06.040 hello whenever I see him, and he always seems very 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.919 approachable and very warm, and that is something that you 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:10.600 can't fake that. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.320 Yeah, yeah, And you know, sometimes I think, fuck, if 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.920 anyone had a reason to be grumpy and pissed off 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.760 and angry, it's not me, it's not me, it's that guy. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.320 It's that guy. And he's not Yeah, yeah. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.120 He's definitely not. All right. Question, Oh, we've got two 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.280 more to go. We're on a roll. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:35.359 Two more on a roll. So in line with everything 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.439 that you give in service and how I guess available 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:44.040 you are to people, how do you know when to stop? 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.040 And I'm not talking about quitting. I'm just talking about 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.520 how do you know when it's time to pull back 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.760 and preserve something for yourself so that you do then 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.439 have things to give to others? 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:02.000 Yeah? Right, So what I wrote what I wrote, and 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.760 I'll expand on this because you you. I jotted down 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.960 a few ideas off your question. I wrote, when your body, soul, innate, wisdom, 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.639 and internal sat nav tell you for me? That's like 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:19.000 I'm getting like my body is telling me or my 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.800 subconscious or my you know that that internal sat nav 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:27.240 that wisdom that whatever that is, like, it's just no, 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:33.359 I just know it's intuitive, right, And I realized that, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.239 and I think this is true for everybody you know. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.119 There there are times when it's actually good for me 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:48.119 to be unproductive today. It's actually good for my overall 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:53.160 productivity and happiness and health to have a fuck all 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:57.160 day or even a fuck all week, depending on depending 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.440 on you know, your situation and where you're at. And 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:06.440 so I think that one of the things that we 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:13.760 do habitually, many of us, is we we kind of 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.320 block out all the inbound wisdom. You know. It's like 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.600 you've heard me so many times. Your body is buy 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.399 a feedback system. Your body's always telling you something. And 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.400 it might not be telling you you need to lose 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.400 weight or get fitter. It might be telling you, hey, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.879 my nervous system's fucking fried. Could you fucking chill out 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:39.879 and go for a swim or just meditate, or like, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.359 our body is always teaching us something or trying to 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.280 teach us something, and it might not be even about 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.720 the body. It might be about the chaotic mind or 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:56.480 the overloaded brain or so I know that there are 0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:04.119 times when I kind of choose to be intentionally unproductive 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.280 because I know that's going to be good for my mental, emotional, 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:12.719 and physical health. And also I know that when I 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.880 turn up to do what I've going to what I've 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:19.080 got to do, I'll be better. Like sometimes, for example, 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.000 if I've got an afternoon gig and I've got to 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.960 talk for in the in the afternoon between one and five, 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.399 which is not uncommon, or one thirty and five, like 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.439 three or four hours, I will intentionally do fuck all 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:35.719 for the whole day before that. Sometimes, yeah, you know, 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.600 and I go because I just want to be brand 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.600 new when I go and stand in front of those people, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.879 because three hours, Like think about talking for three or 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:50.800 four hours and being hopefully mentally focused at somewhere near 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.800 one hundred percent for the whole time and interesting and 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.320 engaging and building rapport and connection and being relevant and 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.800 been a great storyteller and creating an experience that people 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.560 want to be in and you know all of that. Well, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.520 you can't turn up half fried and then do that. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.160 You can't go. I got up at four, I did 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.200 a run, a swim, a workout. I've done nine podcasts 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.200 and so you guys are going to get the dregs. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:20.680 You can't well I can't anyway, So I think strategic 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.920 energy management is crucial. 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.760 I like that. Strategic energy management. 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.679 Yeah, because you're trying to manage your physical, mental, and 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:30.600 emotional energy. 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:35.239 Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm going to use that. 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.119 It's only taken two podcasts and fucking nine and a 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.840 half questions. All right, let's do our last. 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:44.840 Ye okay, this is yeah, this one. I'm very curious. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.600 I think I might know your answer, but I'm probably wrong. 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.520 So you can only do one exercise for the rest 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.200 of your life? What is it? Right? 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.200 Now? This is a hard question because I really needed 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.680 more information. But okay, so I'm going to tell my 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.840 tell you my rationale. So the question is, you can 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:06.680 only do one exercise for the rest of your life? 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:07.119 What is it? 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:08.120 Right? Yeah? 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:12.199 Now, well that if we're talking about well one, we 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:17.280 need cardiovascular fitness, and we need flexibility, and we need 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.440 strength and bone density and some muscle, and we need 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.120 balance and coordination and right, but if I can only 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.320 do one thing, how the fuck do I cover all 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.000 those bases? Right? So you probably thought I'm going to 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.359 say strength training. I'm not. 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:32.520 No, I didn't thint it. 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.480 What do you what do you think my answer is 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:35.840 going to be. 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.199 I think your answer might be walking. 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:44.040 No, okay, my answer is And again everyone, this is 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.440 just if you ask me in a month, I might 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.359 give you a different answer. Right, So this is not 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:56.000 set in stone. But I've given two answers. The first 0:23:56.040 --> 0:24:04.760 one is kind of all the same ballpark surfing, paddling, kayaking, 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:11.760 or swimming. Now, let the exercise scientist explain the rationale. 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:16.000 Please think about surfing, for example, what are you doing? 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.400 You're balancing? What are you doing? You're using your arms 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:25.960 and legs, so coordination, timing, spatial awareness, where's the wave? 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:31.120 Where am I balance? Coordination? You're using muscular endurance because 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.119 you've got addle, paddle, swim, fall off swim for your board. 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.840 You're using strength because you've got to kick, and strength 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.400 upper body you've got to pull yourself through the water, 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:47.040 which so you're you're training your muscular system, your cardiovascular system, 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:52.920 your nervous system. You're getting fitness, cardio, fitness and strength 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:58.560 and muscular endurance. It is a total body workout. Obviously 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.040 not everybody can do that, but I'm just talking about 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:08.240 as a standalone thing. Also, very similar explanations for paddling 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:14.080 stand up paddling, which is great fitness, and you know 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.680 there's a lot of stand up paddle borders around where 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:21.639 I live, kayaking or canoeing, whatever, swimming, same thing, So 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.679 you're never going to be well, that's not true. I 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:26.800 was going to say, you're never going to be a 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.360 big muscular thing. But there are some kayakers who are 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.000