1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed the week ahead. I'm sure 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: and alma, and as always I'm joined by economist Stephen Coculis. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: You'll hined him at the Cook dot com, tg k UK, 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Thecook dot com and on next using the handle the 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Stephen. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Sean. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: You've had a couple of weeks break, Stephen. It's all over. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: What a massive week for the economy, starting off with 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the all important inflation data for the September quarter and 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: the month of September. 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been sort of in a bit of a 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: data drought, but this week is a corker. And yes, 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: the inflation numbers that are coming out on Wednesday will 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: be well, all important for the Australian market. The Reserve 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: Bank will be watching them with a huge amount of 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: interest to see whether they've got any I don't know, 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: any confirmation or further confirmation that inflation's falling, or rather 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: than whether inflation's falling how quickly it's falling, because we 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: know it's coming down, but it's just a matter of 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: how much. 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: So what do you expect? 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: Oh, look the quarterly first, it looks like the headline 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: figure is going to be about the zero point three 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: for the quarter, round about two point nine annual inflation rate. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: So remember that that incorporates the effect of the subsidies 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: on electricity from both the federal government and some state governments, 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: particularly up in Queensland where they've been giving us household 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: as a big rebate on our electricity. So a very 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: low headline figure. So in a sense, we've got that 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: headline figure in the two to three target range, which 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: will be a nice thing for I suppose inflation expectations. 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: But the trimmed mean, which we believe the Reserve Bank 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: does focus on more because it sort of strips out 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: what we might call these artificial changes in prices, probably 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: decelerating to aboutero point seven percent growth for the quarter 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: down to a round about that three point three three 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: point four something like that. So coming down towards the target, 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: anything around those numbers will just reinforce the rates on hold. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: When the RBA meets next week, if we get a 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: little bit lower, then that'll excite a few people, and 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: particularly in the context of you know, for example, last week, 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: the Bank of Canada cutting into Straits and all these 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: other central banks that have been cutting and maybe that 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: rate cut scenario, which has sort of been a bit 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: of a sleep for the last few weeks, might just 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: awake from its hibernation. So all eyes on that inflation number. 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, very exciting. Now there's a bunch of partial data 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: points this week too, but before I mean building approvals, 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: retail trade, lending data, but before we get us house prices. 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: What's going on in the property market house prices? 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Now, yes, look, it's a really divergent price series from 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: city to city. Bottom line, house price growth is still slowing, 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: but in Melbourne, Hobart, Darwin and Canberra already prices are 54 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: actually dropping not much, but they're down about that half 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: to one percent from where they were a quarter ago. 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Likely to be reinforced with the numbers that come out 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: later this week for the month of October. Sydney's slowings 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: so probably about flat for the month, So confirming that, 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's a lot of new listings out there. 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: The softening in the labor markets, except that we've had 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: that coming through, might just be seeing people sort of 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: putting their properties on the market, so there's a bit 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: of extra supply. Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane's still booming, but the 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: rate of increases slowing down, so we're expecting sort of 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: monthly increases between point five point seven for those still 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: strong cities. But overall, house prices are coming off the boil, 67 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: and as I said, we've got roughly half the country 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: with prices flat or down. 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Okay, what were the retail sales figures that we're going 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: to see this week therefore September? 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: I presume Stephen, they are for September. Indeed, and we 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: had a lovely surprise last month. When you're trying to 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: forecast a month a lumber, you look what happened last 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: month to sort of see whether there's momental what it 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: means if there's another strong number. But you might recall 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: last month we had one point seven percent increase in 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: retail sales. That was August, where you know, we got 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: our income tax cuts paid. We mentioned the subsidies coming 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: through on electricity and other items, so maybe we saved 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: a few dollars that way. And of course wages growth 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: is still reasonable. So all of a sudden, the consumer 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: side of the economy wouldn't say it's roaring back, but 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: it's sort of found a base. Look, the market's looking 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: for a sort of a flatish result that, you know, 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: consolidating the jump that we saw in August in September. Again, 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: anything stronger slash weaker than that will give us a 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: bit more of a handle on how we consume as 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: we householders are dealing with this raid high king environment 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: that we've been in, these high interest rates and the 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: pressure that's occurring elsewhere. So I'll be watching that closely. 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: Building approvals, Sean, I think I've been like a broken 92 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: record on this for years. We want to see an increase. 93 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: The market's got basically a flat figure in there. So 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: we want to build more houses. The housing crisis that 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: some people are terming it, we want to build. We 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: need to build houses, and we need building approvals to 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: go up. So again, we just want to see a 98 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 2: positive result coming through on that monthly indicator. 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: And just quickly on the lending data. 100 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Lending data, look, look, people are still borrowing. This is 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: the really curious thing about the housing site at the moment, 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: with prices moderating and activities saying a small uptick in 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: lending because people are still borrowing, reasonable about some money. 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: Access to capital's pretty good. The labor markets helping people 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: to borrow because they've got a job generally, and banks 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: like that of course, well they don't lean to people 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: or not. Huge amounts of people are run employed, so 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: that's going to be important. And in addition to that, 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup's not that far away, so after the weekend 110 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: that we just had, I'm narrowing it down. Yeah, the 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: map is my early tip, but I'm going to focus 112 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: on that for next week's week ahead. 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: All right, I thank you, Steve, and enjoy your week. 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Thanks John A's Economus seven. Co coulis better known as 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the Koki. You can find him at the cook dot 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: com and follow him on ex using the handle of 117 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the Coirk. Come Sean Almer and this is fear and 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Greed The week Ahead