Speaker 1: La General. Welcome late babe, good evening, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand filling
Speaker 1: in for Caleb Bond. Coming up tonight. A four year
Speaker 1: old toddler calls nine to eleven. Wait until you hear
Speaker 1: the crime that was reported. Will play you that a
Speaker 1: little later. Plus, when we look at the papers Federal
Speaker 1: Labor have deleted from their website modeling regarding carbon reduction
Speaker 1: as their own targets look increasingly unlikely to be met.
Speaker 1: And trouble for the Victorian Opposition leader after he claimed
Speaker 1: to be visiting cycle and affected family in Queensland but
Speaker 1: seems like it was actually on a four day cruise.
Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that when we look at
Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines, but first we need to talk about Malcolm Turnbull.
Speaker 1: Last week, Malcolm Turnbull slammed Donald Trump, comparing him unfavorably
Speaker 1: to the Chinese dictator e Jujingping. This week, Malcolm Turnbull,
Speaker 1: the former Prime Minister, was slamming the Orcust deal, describing
Speaker 1: it as terrible and unfair.
Speaker 2: Orcus is a terrible deal.
Speaker 3: It is so unfair to Australia and the reason it
Speaker 3: is unfair is that we are paying three billion US
Speaker 3: dollars to the Americans to support their submarine industrial base,
Speaker 3: but we have no guarantee that we will ever get
Speaker 3: any submarines. People say, do will Donald Trump like it? Well,
Speaker 3: of course he'd like it. It's such a bad deal
Speaker 3: for us. Will He's only thinking, he'd be back of
Speaker 3: his mind. He'll be thinking, who are these dumb guys
Speaker 3: that agreed to this deal?
Speaker 1: So it seems to me there's two issues here. First
Speaker 1: and foremost is Malcolm Turnbull right? It is true we're
Speaker 1: paying three billion dollars upfront to the US without any
Speaker 1: guarantee that will ever get any submarine in return. And
Speaker 1: if that happens, where does that leave our national defense?
Speaker 1: The second issue, of course, is why is Malcolm Turnbull
Speaker 1: suddenly omnipresent? I mean, you see more of Melk Turnbull
Speaker 1: than Eddie McGuire these days.
Speaker 2: That's I'm going to Eddie.
Speaker 1: Are his unsolicited interjections in the political scene damaging our
Speaker 1: already strained relations with our major ally, Joe, how about it?
Speaker 4: Which issue do you want to address first?
Speaker 5: Is he right?
Speaker 2: So many No, he's not right? And someone like Malcolm
Speaker 2: Turnbull was just you know again, I used to think
Speaker 2: there was just so much potential in that bloke, and
Speaker 2: like everyone else I was.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the Labor Party thought, yeah, we thought he
Speaker 1: was one of us.
Speaker 5: Everyone long for the leather jacket, they loved that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Okay. Firstly, the Orcust Deal is not
Speaker 2: really about submarines, and anyone who can't see that from
Speaker 2: space has no business being in politics, let alone commentating
Speaker 2: on foreign affairs and geostrategic matters. The Orcust Deal is
Speaker 2: about locking Australia and the US in a strategic military
Speaker 2: defense alliance that basically is the sort of hardware around
Speaker 2: the ANSAs Treaty, and to making sure that no matter
Speaker 2: what happens in our region, America is obliged, not just
Speaker 2: because of the Anzis Treaty that it's already signed, or
Speaker 2: indeed because of the Orgestrae it's ally time, but because
Speaker 2: it is in it up to its neck, because its
Speaker 2: stuff is on the line, much like if it was
Speaker 2: digging up rare earth in Ukraine, for example, that it
Speaker 2: will have to come to our aid. And it's all
Speaker 2: the more important now because we have a superpower on
Speaker 2: the rise in China, and that is potentially hopefully not,
Speaker 2: but that is potentially a real strategic risk if, for example,
Speaker 2: it tries to block access to the South China Sea
Speaker 2: or you know, re invade or you re absorb Taiwan
Speaker 2: into it, and that sparks the sort of regional conflict
Speaker 2: that Australia by sort of domino effect could get involved in.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 2: We need America on our side, our back.
Speaker 1: It's not really, it's more than it's only are it
Speaker 1: gets so well.
Speaker 2: The submarines are symbolic if you like, like hopefully we
Speaker 2: will get the subs and I can guarantee you they
Speaker 2: will be late and over budget. But the point is
Speaker 2: it puts US. It makes the fate of US, our
Speaker 2: military and the US's military inextricably intertwined over a very
Speaker 2: very long period of time. And that's what matters. We
Speaker 2: are not going to be relying on these submarines if
Speaker 2: and when they ever come to defeat China or take
Speaker 2: on China, or defend ourselves against China on their own.
Speaker 2: We are going to be defending on America. And the
Speaker 2: best way you get America to act is when it's
Speaker 2: also in its own self interest. And speaking of self interest,
Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull is of course the guy who did the
Speaker 2: previous substeal with the French government, which again, if it
Speaker 2: was just submarines might look better on paper, maybe we
Speaker 2: get more for our money, and maybe we get them sooner.
Speaker 2: But it's not just about submarines. And anyone who can't
Speaker 2: see that isn't seeing the forest for the trees. And
Speaker 2: what are the French going to do if China suddenly
Speaker 2: gets belligerent and aggressive towards Australia, Well, they will make
Speaker 2: sure that they come right here in the region right
Speaker 2: now and officially surrender on Australia's behalf, because that's all
Speaker 2: the frogs already got at. And they've been screwing things
Speaker 2: up for years. They screwed up the situation in Indo China.
Speaker 2: They screwed up when they said the Emperor Maximilian over
Speaker 2: to Mexico to become the last Emperor of Mexico. They
Speaker 2: screwed up in the Napoleonic Wars. These guys are just hopeless.
Speaker 2: What happens when they know what happens when the Germans
Speaker 2: rock up and imparasitor.
Speaker 1: Speaking of screwing up Liz is Malcolm Turnbull screwing up
Speaker 1: ol flimsy relationship.
Speaker 5: No, no, not at all.
Speaker 6: Look, he has a point in that it's very unlikely
Speaker 6: we're going to get these subs because the deal says
Speaker 6: America is only giving us these three subs if and
Speaker 6: when it doesn't cost them with regard to their own
Speaker 6: naval capacity. Now, subs are the most expensive and important
Speaker 6: asset the Americans have, indeed any military has.
Speaker 5: When you're talking about subs.
Speaker 6: You're talking about the Apex predator. If you have subs,
Speaker 6: you're doing incredibly well for yourself.
Speaker 5: So we're not doing well for ourselves.
Speaker 6: At all, which is why we need these guys. But
Speaker 6: they're currently twenty sub short in America of the amount
Speaker 6: of subs that they want. So when you think of
Speaker 6: how many subs they've got to get up and running
Speaker 6: before they've.
Speaker 5: Got three Sparez's that they're going to be like Australia.
Speaker 5: We've got those three.
Speaker 6: That's not going to cost us our naval capacity.
Speaker 5: That's probably never going to happen.
Speaker 6: But for the exact reasons that Joe has just elucidated on,
Speaker 6: this is very important. We would agree to anything that
Speaker 6: the Yanks want.
Speaker 5: Why because they are the biggest military power on Earth
Speaker 5: just ahead.
Speaker 6: Of Russia, followed by China, and those two have been
Speaker 6: driven into each other's arms in recent years. So our alliance,
Speaker 6: our friendship with the Yanks is more important now than
Speaker 6: ever before. If you would sign anything, even if it
Speaker 6: meant we got nothing except for the understanding that if
Speaker 6: we say yes to this, you guys are going to
Speaker 6: come for us, right like, if we need you, you're
Speaker 6: going to be there.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Albanezer government really believed that,
Speaker 1: because if they did, surely they would lift defense spending
Speaker 1: to the three percent of GDP that Trump wants. Instead
Speaker 1: of promising what they say, they lift it from about
Speaker 1: two percent to two point three percent, which is I
Speaker 1: think about one hundred billion dollars extra over that period.
Speaker 1: But it's hardly the three percent that Trump says should
Speaker 1: be a minimum for any country that isn't an alliance
Speaker 1: with the United States.
Speaker 6: I would say it's because they know the Yanks will
Speaker 6: come to our rescue that they're like, you know what,
Speaker 6: if we raise it by a few point percentages more,
Speaker 6: what difference is it really going to make in the
Speaker 6: big scheme of things. We will still be wholly and
Speaker 6: solely reliable on America in the event of any kind
Speaker 6: of squabble with the powers that be, and of course
Speaker 6: geographically we're way closer to China, will be the first
Speaker 6: oh when something bad goes wrong, should they decide to flex,
Speaker 6: and again, all eyes will be on America, not US
Speaker 6: as a middle power, especially with the capability.
Speaker 5: Or lack there of, of our military at the moment. That's simple.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you one thing that Anthey Albanez he
Speaker 1: wishes he had, and that was Donald Trump's approval ratings
Speaker 1: after just three months. Donald Trump is doing quite well.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's the most popular he's ever been. His
Speaker 1: USU's describing exactly where he's at.
Speaker 7: Let's just start with Trump himself. That forty seven percent
Speaker 7: job approval reading. Two ways of looking at this. First
Speaker 7: of all, if you compare Trump to every recent president
Speaker 7: this point after coming into office, Trump's number here is
Speaker 7: the lowest, significantly the lowest of any of his modern
Speaker 7: predecessors except Donald Trump in his first term. He was
Speaker 7: at forty percent at this point in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: So Donald Trump is beating himself, which is quite an accomplishment.
Speaker 1: The interesting part about these polls, there's a lot will
Speaker 1: go through in a moment. But ninety percent of Republicans
Speaker 1: approve of Donald Trump's performance, only four percent of Democrats
Speaker 1: approve of Trump's performance. Now, you might say, well, that's obvious,
Speaker 1: but that's the largest gap in approval of a president
Speaker 1: between Republicans and Democrats in close to one hundred years.
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 1: It just goes to show how incredibly divided America still is,
Speaker 1: even though a lot of Americans do believe for the
Speaker 1: first time, well more Americans than in the past twenty
Speaker 1: years now believe America's on the right track, but still
Speaker 1: an incredibly divided nation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredibly divided. And also, I think that figure
Speaker 2: kind of comes on the back of America for the
Speaker 2: first time in the kind of in the sort of
Speaker 2: mid twenty tens, twenty twenties, actually suddenly starting to doubt
Speaker 2: itself and suddenly think, hang on, maybe we are a
Speaker 2: washed up souperer. Maybe our best days behind us. And remember,
Speaker 2: you know, we had the American Century in the twentieth century,
Speaker 2: but America has only been a global superpower for about
Speaker 2: one hundred years. You look at places like you know, China,
Speaker 2: it's been thousands in their sphere of influence and in
Speaker 2: some ways or you know ten. So I think that's
Speaker 2: the first thing to look at. The second thing is
Speaker 2: the guy's absolutely right. You can only compare Donald Trump
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump because everything else is that apples without
Speaker 2: apples with oranges, because he's so different to every other
Speaker 2: former president that the normal sort of rules don't apply.
Speaker 2: And the reason why more people will disapprove of him,
Speaker 2: even though he's just won this massive landslide election including
Speaker 2: both Houses of Congress, is because the people who approve
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump really really really really really approve of him,
Speaker 2: and they will go and get out to vote for him,
Speaker 2: where you'd have a whole bunch of people, including registered voters,
Speaker 2: will say yeah, I don't approve on him, and then
Speaker 2: go and you know, smoke another bomb on the couch
Speaker 2: or whatever it is they do. But this guy electrifies
Speaker 2: people and gets out the vote. Interestingly, the only thing
Speaker 2: he's got a mega net approval rating in terms of
Speaker 2: issues is border security and immigration, which just goes to
Speaker 2: show how stupid the Democrats were to open the floodgates again.
Speaker 2: Especially they didn't have to do anything. All they had
Speaker 2: to do is say, oh, well, Donald Trump's built the wall,
Speaker 2: shut the gate. We'll just keep it shut and then
Speaker 2: you know, bitch and marn about it a little bit.
Speaker 2: But basically because that is what any like if labor
Speaker 2: got that. Well, again, they didn't exactly do that twenty seven,
Speaker 2: but they learned pretty quickly. You just let the Libs
Speaker 2: and the Coalition the right do all the tough on
Speaker 2: popular stuff that you secretly want to do, and say, well,
Speaker 2: they did it, and now we can't really undo it,
Speaker 2: and then talk about something else like health and education.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the war between Russia and Ukraine,
Speaker 2: you have the equal biggest difference exactly the same as
Speaker 2: inflation of the cost of living fifty five to forty
Speaker 2: two who actually think that Donald Trump is doing the
Speaker 2: wrong thing. So if you think about what he's doing
Speaker 2: on tariffs, which we've set off a lot of alarm bells,
Speaker 2: that obviously feeds directly into inflation because it makes American
Speaker 2: imports expensive in America. And if you look out, of course,
Speaker 2: where the mainstream sits on Ukraine, clearly overwhelmingly it is
Speaker 2: pro Ukraine and in opposition to Donald Trump's position. So
Speaker 2: there you go, America.
Speaker 1: I hope you're watching I would have thought a forty
Speaker 1: seven percent approval rating after just three months, Liz, when effectively,
Speaker 1: what he's doing now is trying to undo all of
Speaker 1: the garbage that the Biden administration thrust upon the United States.
Speaker 1: And if you've ever done a home renovation, it always
Speaker 1: looks worse before it gets better. So if Trump is
Speaker 1: going this well compared to his previous term after just
Speaker 1: three months, I reckon if you check back in a
Speaker 1: year after he's made good progress undoing all the stuff
Speaker 1: he wants to undo before he can start implementing his
Speaker 1: full agenda, he's doing quite well.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, it's an early judgment call.
Speaker 6: I mean, these are very very early days of this
Speaker 6: new Trump administration, but a lot of the headlines that
Speaker 6: we're seeing coming out of America singing the guy's praises.
Speaker 6: And I've always been pretty outspoken in my support of Trump,
Speaker 6: but as someone who I would consider a Trumper, I've
Speaker 6: been disappointed by quite a few things that the admin
Speaker 6: has done so far, most noticeably passing a continuing resolution
Speaker 6: last week, which meant that they were going to keep
Speaker 6: up the same spending levels as the Biden administration until
Speaker 6: September at least at which point they could just pass.
Speaker 5: Another see R.
Speaker 6: So all these headlines that we've been talking about dose
Speaker 6: covering all this ridiculous government corruption and these insane expenditures,
Speaker 6: and we're laughing and saying, oh, they're going to pack
Speaker 6: it in.
Speaker 5: Yes, this is awesome.
Speaker 6: They just agreed to keep spending the same amount of
Speaker 6: money to keep funding who knows where the funding is
Speaker 6: going now, but the same amount. And that's after they
Speaker 6: campaigned months and months and months.
Speaker 5: Saying, oh, we're going to cut government spending. This has
Speaker 5: gone effect inflation. You're going to see these numbers.
Speaker 6: Really, No, No, you just passed a continuing resolution. And
Speaker 6: let's be clear, because it was such a comprehensive election outcome,
Speaker 6: the Republicans now control the House and the Senate, there
Speaker 6: is absolutely no excuse for any promises that were made
Speaker 6: prior to the election simply not being delivered on. So
Speaker 6: while everyone in the States and indeed US have been
Speaker 6: harping on about these great wins and we're slashing usaid,
Speaker 6: eighty three percent of their programs are now out the window.
Speaker 5: For me, the Continuing.
Speaker 6: Resolution past last week literally blew my mind.
Speaker 5: And then what does Trump do?
Speaker 6: He attacks the one senator who had the gonads to
Speaker 6: call out the hypocrisy and say, hang on a minute.
Speaker 6: You promised us one thing and you guys are doing another.
Speaker 6: And laughably, it was the Dems that got it across
Speaker 6: the line.
Speaker 5: Ten Dems voted.
Speaker 6: With the Republicans to get it across the line in
Speaker 6: the Senate.
Speaker 5: It's not a red flag, you guys.
Speaker 6: So there's quite a few promises that conservatives are going.
Speaker 5: Hang on the.
Speaker 6: JFK files, you promised us. They still haven't got those.
Speaker 6: The Epstein files, you promise us, still haven't got those.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 6: Indeed, we'd love to note this ridiculous, outlandish declaration that
Speaker 6: ethnic cleansing of a territory is perfectly fine in the
Speaker 6: case of Gaza. Apparently it's okay when we do it.
Speaker 6: Given him coming out last week as the Trump administration
Speaker 6: and condemning the carnage that we're now seeing in Syria,
Speaker 6: Oh we condemned this, but we have him on tape.
Speaker 5: We played that for you Thursday of last week.
Speaker 6: If you were watching, condemning the fact that the US
Speaker 6: was funding these terrorists in the lead up to toppling
Speaker 6: the Assad regime, which they wanted to do forever. Now
Speaker 6: those terrorists are killing all in Sundry. If you're a
Speaker 6: Christian or an Alloyite in Syria.
Speaker 5: And all which condemn that, Mate, you know.
Speaker 6: Exactly where those Terrrians came from them.
Speaker 4: Both of those I could go on same time.
Speaker 1: But while Trump might have his faults, the Democrats are
Speaker 1: favor Their favorability rating Joe is twenty seven percent, the
Speaker 1: lowest it's ever been all of history, in.
Speaker 2: All of every homon time in their history.
Speaker 1: So Democrats don't know how to respond to Trump at all.
Speaker 1: We saw during his address to the Joint House of
Speaker 1: Congress that they're holding up signs just jeticy. They're refusing
Speaker 1: to stand even for a kid who's overcome brain cancer.
Speaker 4: No wonder. Their favorability rating is the lowest it's ever been.
Speaker 2: But they still they just still do not understand what's
Speaker 2: going on. Lord, you give them eyes, and yet they
Speaker 2: do not see. They just have no they cannot get
Speaker 2: their heads around what has happened. And you saw just
Speaker 2: a tiny bit of sort of the scales sort of
Speaker 2: peeling back from their eyes a little bit on election
Speaker 2: night after they were completely blind slid sided by this
Speaker 2: massive result, and everyone there was a bit of introspections
Speaker 2: like how did we miss all this? Where did we
Speaker 2: go so wrong? You know, Joe Scarborough went to Mari
Speaker 2: Lago and even met with Donald Trump, And there is
Speaker 2: there is a bit of soul search in the Democrats,
Speaker 2: but again they still just sort of go to the
Speaker 2: default position. It's like a Pavlovian response. You know, someone
Speaker 2: rings the bell and they start drooling again. And there
Speaker 2: is an interesting thing last week there was apparently there's
Speaker 2: a group of moderate Democrats who who went away on
Speaker 2: this sort of big sort of retreats, say right, what
Speaker 2: do we do? What do we do? And We've got
Speaker 2: to get back to the community. We've got to stop
Speaker 2: looking like we hate America. We've got to start being
Speaker 2: more patriotic. We've got to start going to where the
Speaker 2: community is, going to gun shows, heaven forbid, and talking
Speaker 2: to real people there and saying, you know, why do
Speaker 2: patriotic Americans hate us so much? And then you get
Speaker 2: polling like this, and I think it found that the
Speaker 2: the most popular candidate among respondents to be the next
Speaker 2: kind of candidate for presidents was AOC left Tim Waltz.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't give that's right, so you know it's
Speaker 2: just insane. I mean, it should be Tulsy Gabbard, but
Speaker 2: unfortunately she's already left the building.
Speaker 1: Well, no matter what you say about the Democrats in
Speaker 1: the US, it doesn't get much better here in Australia.
Speaker 4: Of course, Jim Charmers is preparing.
Speaker 1: To give a budget update in March, and I think
Speaker 1: we've heard what he's going to be saying when he
Speaker 1: gives that address, A cyclone ate my homework.
Speaker 8: Treasury expects there will be about a one point two
Speaker 8: billion dollar hit to economic output just as a consequence
Speaker 8: of xtc Alfred. That's about a quarter of a percentage
Speaker 8: point in GDP.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Opposition Treasurer Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor called
Speaker 1: Jim Charmers out with the obvious.
Speaker 9: If you've got a government that's been managing its budget
Speaker 9: can absorb these sort of things, it has the shock
Speaker 9: absorbers built into its budget and into the economy where
Speaker 9: it can absorb it. And the truth is that we've
Speaker 9: got Jim Chalmers out there looking for another excuse for
Speaker 9: why he is failing as treasurer.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 4: No one is seriously going to buy this, are they.
Speaker 1: I mean, we are old enough to remember when Jim
Speaker 1: Chalmers was blaming the Middle East. Then it was Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: Now it's cyclone, Alfred. No one is going to believe this.
Speaker 1: In fact, everyone just wants a government that will be
Speaker 1: accountable and take responsibility, like Anthony ELBINIZI promised only three
Speaker 1: short years ago.
Speaker 4: A cyclone.
Speaker 6: Really, yeah, angus sailor is quite right. I mean it's
Speaker 6: very timely. Can you imagine if your lady you're like,
Speaker 6: yes me, I mean this he isn't.
Speaker 5: This is a natural disaster.
Speaker 6: This was how could we have budgeted for this? There's
Speaker 6: going to be a whole I mean is perfect timing
Speaker 6: for them, given of course, now the election is being
Speaker 6: called later than we suspect they anticipated two said cyclone,
Speaker 6: and they do have to come up with another budget.
Speaker 1: It's funny because Anthony Alberanzi race to Queensland, right, so
Speaker 1: he could be on the spot in this category ten cyclone.
Speaker 2: A true leader, like a strong leader, and I reckon.
Speaker 1: Everyone was relieved that it wasn't any more than a
Speaker 1: category two to a category one. Other than Anthony Albanzi,
Speaker 1: he probably would have liked a real disaster to demonstrate
Speaker 1: his leadership. Capabilities. But Jim Chalmers is prepared to get
Speaker 1: as much out of this cyclone as he possibly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on him for it. I mean, look, the
Speaker 2: truth is that the budget would be in trouble no
Speaker 2: matter who was running it. The only reason that it
Speaker 2: was in surplus for the previous two years was because
Speaker 2: they basically changed the way that the surfaces and deficits
Speaker 2: were calculated. So again, they got lucky, and that's good.
Speaker 2: And ninety nine percent of what governments do is get
Speaker 2: lucky and they take the credit for it, and then
Speaker 2: they get unlucky and they blame someone else for it,
Speaker 2: and that's just politics.
Speaker 4: But I've been worse than unlucky though.
Speaker 1: I mean the amount of spending they have announced just
Speaker 1: in the last couple of months. I think it's like
Speaker 1: six point three dollars in nets spending on the lead.
Speaker 4: Up to the election. I totally get meant to be
Speaker 4: fighting inflation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, And I can completely understand how if
Speaker 2: you're an economic dry or if you're on the conservative
Speaker 2: side of politics, say, listen, this flation, this spending is
Speaker 2: going to be inflationary, and it will mean that inflation
Speaker 2: stays higher for longer. And we've got a cut, cut, cut, cut,
Speaker 2: cut spending, and that is totally valid, but that does
Speaker 2: mean an awful lot of people on the scrap heap
Speaker 2: and a lot of people who won't be able to
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, last out the winter, if you like,
Speaker 2: the economic winter, until they see the sunshine. And labor
Speaker 2: is obviously going to take a more sort of compassionate view,
Speaker 2: and it is obviously going to make sure that people
Speaker 2: do have things like the free childcare or the energy rebates,
Speaker 2: or the pressing for the higher minimum wage or you know,
Speaker 2: higher wage deals in sectors like age care and stuff
Speaker 2: like that to recruit more people. So I mean that's
Speaker 2: just kind of like two, Yes, the price you pay
Speaker 2: for that might be slightly higher, stick hear inflation for longer,
Speaker 2: but it means that more people survive that survive that
Speaker 2: sort of darkness. But what I do really like about
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers's speech is he calls Tropical Cyclone out look
Speaker 2: because it's former Tropical Psycho. He calls it XTC for
Speaker 2: Extra ex Tropicals. I got off and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that XTC was a house band in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2: Is it ecstasy ecstasy textas exit. I'm sure it was
Speaker 2: or something like anyway, I was emf was another one anyway,
Speaker 2: but it just sounded so sounded so funky. It was
Speaker 2: the greatest.
Speaker 6: Aren't bash Labor for this because if it was a
Speaker 6: liberal government, they'd be doing it exactly.
Speaker 2: They are doing the same.
Speaker 5: I mean, don't waste the crisis. Isn't that politics? One
Speaker 5: oh one?
Speaker 6: Any government would be like, look, we just had a cyclone,
Speaker 6: so everything's out of whack right now. To Queensland now,
Speaker 6: where a new poll shows that the Greens are looking
Speaker 6: at a wipe out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we dream say it is. So check this out.
Speaker 5: In the seat of Brisbane in.
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty two, they held a twenty seven point two
Speaker 6: percent vote. It's looking like if this pole can be believed,
Speaker 6: that is around eighteen point what check out that nose
Speaker 6: dive to the seat of Griffith, which they currently hold
Speaker 6: at the moment. The Greens are looking at another nose dive,
Speaker 6: not as severe, but it would still cost them the
Speaker 6: seat well questionably if the Libs can edge above them
Speaker 6: here from thirty four point six percent to thirty one
Speaker 6: point three percent. And in Ryan they're also looking at
Speaker 6: a loss going from.
Speaker 5: Again, if this pole if this dream is going to
Speaker 5: come true.
Speaker 6: From thirty point two percent to twenty seven point four percent.
Speaker 5: Not all of.
Speaker 6: Those are huge, but as we know, in this game,
Speaker 6: all it takes is a handful of votes.
Speaker 2: Really on all these in these three corner contests between
Speaker 2: the Greens of Libra and the Libs, all that matters
Speaker 2: is the order in which the parties get knocked out
Speaker 2: and where those preferences flow. So in this car the
Speaker 2: big difference is that Liberals are putting the Greens last,
Speaker 2: so as long as the so if it becomes a
Speaker 2: contest between Labor and the Greens, if the Libs go
Speaker 2: out first, all their preferences, if people follow how to vote,
Speaker 2: go to the Labor Party. The problem though, is that
Speaker 2: the people the votes that are going from the Greens
Speaker 2: and make of this what you will, are not going
Speaker 2: to the Labor Party. It's usually a pox on both
Speaker 2: your houses. With the exception of Brisbane, which is pretty
Speaker 2: much still the same, these votes are going elsewhere. So
Speaker 2: in Brisbane all these votes are going to Independence.
Speaker 6: So there's an indivis nine points.
Speaker 2: Independent running there has just picked up all all that,
Speaker 2: So wherever their preferences go will determine it and obviously
Speaker 2: this new outfit Insightfully which has done it as commissioned
Speaker 2: by Advance, which I think you see it for. This
Speaker 2: is a new, a new outfit that is founded by
Speaker 2: an ex employee of Crosby Texter, So I'm not I
Speaker 2: don't know how reliable. Six hundred people per seed, which
Speaker 2: is pretty high for just one electric but anyway, it'd
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how that goes out. But I
Speaker 2: know that Labour reckoned that they might be able to
Speaker 2: pick up Brisbane, but this polling shows it's fifty three
Speaker 2: point or fifty three thereabouts to the Libs. And then
Speaker 2: Griffith again, similar story. You know, the labor drops, you
Speaker 2: know the Greens drop too, from thirty four to thirty
Speaker 2: one and over three percent. This is Max Chandler Matho,
Speaker 2: who's the most insufferable Green of them all, the housing
Speaker 2: guy who you know says that everyone else has to
Speaker 2: provide free housing for and won't approve any new projects
Speaker 2: in his electorate. And again Labour's vote is also going
Speaker 2: down by the Libs are going up. So if that
Speaker 2: goes to anywhere, And this is Kevin ruddsold seat. This
Speaker 2: was held by Terry Butler and she wasn't meant to
Speaker 2: lose it at the last election where there was a
Speaker 2: big landslide Loberes. I don't know what she was doing there.
Speaker 1: We will not be surprised that the Greens are losing ground.
Speaker 1: I mean Elizabeth Watson Brown in the seat of Ryan
Speaker 1: famously refused to fly the Australian flag in her Electric
Speaker 1: office and then when the war memorial was graffited, she
Speaker 1: refused to condemn it. So you know, people who might
Speaker 1: have voted Greens because they were under the illusion. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure why anyone would be under the illusion to
Speaker 1: this day that the Greens are all about the environment,
Speaker 1: but very clearly they're anti Australia. They're not about the
Speaker 1: environment at all, and people are awake to it. If
Speaker 1: they lose these three seats in Queens and that leaves
Speaker 1: them in the Lower House with Adam Bant, so they're
Speaker 1: dreams of being kingmakers and power brokers after the election
Speaker 1: are started.
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert. Same polling found that the Greens, and this
Speaker 2: is unbelievable given that McNamara is home to probably the
Speaker 2: biggest Jewish population in Melbourne. The Greens might actually pick
Speaker 2: up McNamara off labor so that's why I'm a just
Speaker 2: a bit I'm sounding like Anthony Green.
Speaker 1: Now, why would one of the largest Jewish populations vote
Speaker 1: for Green.
Speaker 2: This is why this polling seems to be painting two
Speaker 2: different pictures. Now we know that we know that labor,
Speaker 2: we know that Victoria is just a different country, and
Speaker 2: Victoria is almost structurally left wing. But again, all the
Speaker 2: Greens have to do is get ahead of liberal So
Speaker 2: I get ahead of labor, and then if the labor
Speaker 2: preference preferences knock out and flow to the Greens. So
Speaker 2: if liberal if Liberal outpolls labor, this is why it's weird.
Speaker 2: So if liberal outpolls labor and labor and the Greens
Speaker 2: and the liber and the Greens are the too top
Speaker 2: and labor drops out, which is which is how it
Speaker 2: could happen, is how it happened last time around, because
Speaker 2: so they get a third each weelve. If labor just
Speaker 2: falls thort of that third drops out, its preferences will
Speaker 2: then probably flow to the Greens, not as much as
Speaker 2: the Green flow to labor, but a bit, and that
Speaker 2: will be enough to push the Greens over the top
Speaker 2: of the lips. So it's bonkers.
Speaker 6: It really is and because we know that we're looking
Speaker 6: at potentially labor minority government, in which case they're going
Speaker 6: to have to choose bedfellows.
Speaker 5: It is very interesting.
Speaker 6: Although I don't know about I'm not a big believer
Speaker 6: in poles.
Speaker 5: I really we've been shocked in the past.
Speaker 2: That's right. Again, this is so different to a pole
Speaker 2: where it's just red versus blue, or because you have
Speaker 2: to because how people preference will make all the difference.
Speaker 2: So it's not just where someone's first preference is and
Speaker 2: how the rest split. It's it's it's who.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So again I'm just going to stop talking now, but.
Speaker 6: It's well, it's something that gets all of our blood boiling.
Speaker 6: The extortionate cost of parking at a hospital.
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but this gets my goat.
Speaker 6: Here are people in some of the most vulnerable positions
Speaker 6: in their lives.
Speaker 5: They're visiting at an airport. Ones at an airport.
Speaker 2: Which is even this is airport parking. Oh well, but
Speaker 2: again people are in a very vulnerable position at the airport.
Speaker 2: I know, I'll to hospital. I've been to hospitals and airports.
Speaker 6: Hospitals I don't think they should charge at all, but
Speaker 6: airports I mean, who is taking that for a ride?
Speaker 6: Who's like, I'm just going to park here for ages,
Speaker 6: for laughs. Nobody, nobody's hanging out at an airport for fun.
Speaker 6: And you will not believe the amount of money they
Speaker 6: are making office just because we want to scooch in
Speaker 6: greet our loved ones or see them off in a
Speaker 6: tearful Farewell, get this.
Speaker 5: Brisbane airport mage the most.
Speaker 6: This is just twenty twenty four financial year profits. They
Speaker 6: earned one hundred and thirteen point four million.
Speaker 5: With a seventy six point six profit margin.
Speaker 6: Melbourne is in second place with one hundred and eight
Speaker 6: point one million dollar profit. Sydney had the highest hourly
Speaker 6: fee at twenty three sixty, which is probably why they
Speaker 6: weren't in the two because nobody's insane enough.
Speaker 5: To pay the park there.
Speaker 6: And Melbourne and Brisbane reduced spaces oh my gosh, while
Speaker 6: Perth and Sydney added more. This is just absolutely extortionate.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a singular defensive. No one's taking
Speaker 6: the mix camping out at airports just for fun.
Speaker 2: In defense of Sydney, they did, as you say, charged
Speaker 2: the most expensive thing. I saw the finishally thought, oh
Speaker 2: that's disappointing. Surely Sydney is the most shamelessly profiteering airport
Speaker 2: in the country, and indeed it is. You'll be relieved now,
Speaker 2: it's just that they don't have as much because they're
Speaker 2: really small airport, they don't have as much space. But
Speaker 2: what the space they do have they're really squeezing over.
Speaker 4: Well it shows you how good the Brisbane Airport is.
Speaker 1: I mean they've reduced spaces and I still made the
Speaker 1: greatest profit on car parking spaces, which add on it
Speaker 1: informs us all that airports are really they're just glorified
Speaker 1: car parking businesses, really indeed making an incredible amount of money,
Speaker 1: a seventy six point six percent profit margin. Name another
Speaker 1: business in this country that has such a high profit.
Speaker 5: I want some shares, like what are these going for?
Speaker 1: I mean this report was done by the Australian Competition
Speaker 1: and Consumer Commission, and of course the issue is that
Speaker 1: there's no competition at all when it comes to parking
Speaker 1: at your airport, so even even the cost of parking
Speaker 1: I did laugh at this was being criticized by representatives
Speaker 1: of the airlines, whether Virgin or Quantus, and you know
Speaker 1: when Quantus are criticizing the costs of airports that extorted.
Speaker 2: Although I mean to be fair, you know, like you say,
Speaker 2: there's no competition, like Melbourne came in second with one
Speaker 2: hundred and eight million. But you know again, if you
Speaker 2: don't want to pay the cost of parking at the airport,
Speaker 2: just take the train.
Speaker 1: Well, and maybe that's why there is no pla airport
Speaker 1: because it's certainly not been the interests of Melbourne.
Speaker 4: Support the Labor government.
Speaker 10: Where broad Meadows and then maybe it'll sur scenic tour.
Speaker 10: That's what I could see all of Melbourne before you leave,
Speaker 10: just to know, remember what Cranburn looks like.
Speaker 1: I mean I used to take the car and you'd
Speaker 1: park at the airport. Then I got wise to that
Speaker 1: and found a parking place a little bit out of
Speaker 1: the airport, so you'd park there and then get an
Speaker 1: uber that was cheaper. And of course then you realized,
Speaker 1: you know, with the Metro and the rail, might as
Speaker 1: well just do that. Indeed, it's not as comfortable, but
Speaker 1: you save a lot of money. That's how Sydney works.
Speaker 1: But I reckon you're right about Melbourne. Why would they
Speaker 1: ever support a rail link when they're making so much
Speaker 1: money from.
Speaker 6: Park and I reckon the franchise is because there's Sydney Airport.
Speaker 6: You've got a Macer's right there, You've got a KFC
Speaker 6: right there, You've got a Krispy Kreme right there. So
Speaker 6: people pull in and they'll be like texting whoever there
Speaker 6: to pick up or whatever, being like oh another fifteen
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, no worries, and they camp out in
Speaker 6: the car parts of those franchises that then make a
Speaker 6: buck because everyone's like, that's what I used to do.
Speaker 2: On the Tullamarine Freeway leading up into Melbourne. Now there's
Speaker 2: just nothing but signs saying you are not allowed to
Speaker 2: put your guy, start to the car park and pay
Speaker 2: what is it, fifteen dollars. That's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Good on your Melbourne well, I mean the Brisbane Airport
Speaker 1: used to park. I remember years ago. You'd park on
Speaker 1: the side of the road, you know that leads up
Speaker 1: to the terminal and you just wait there for fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes if you were just sweating on someone arriving. Then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's no parking signs appeared, I'm
Speaker 1: sure because it was just unsafe.
Speaker 4: Of course, there was another.
Speaker 2: You suggest it was revenue raising for good, a man
Speaker 2: of religion and peace, maybe for Zoyacore.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: We've been talking the last week about more revelations read
Speaker 1: the effects of COVID and lockdowns and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. But there's another story that's been brewing, and
Speaker 1: that is just what spy agencies knew and told their
Speaker 1: governments about the origin of COVID nineteen as early as
Speaker 1: February and March twenty twenty. Reports today that I six
Speaker 1: told Boris Johnson's UK government in March that they were
Speaker 1: pretty sure the virus had resulted from a lab leak.
Speaker 1: But the Lord Patrick Valance, he was a science minister
Speaker 1: and the chief science advisor to Boris Johnson, appeared in
Speaker 1: most of the press conferences when they were talking about
Speaker 1: what action they would take to mitigate COVID. He was
Speaker 1: suppressing that report out fear of offending the Chinese, fear
Speaker 1: of besmirching the endeavor of science, but more sinisterly jeopardizing
Speaker 1: funding for scientific research.
Speaker 4: And it's not just MI six.
Speaker 1: German spy agencies told the German government, but they kept
Speaker 1: it quiet. And of course we know that the US
Speaker 1: government were aware of a Lablik as well. But there
Speaker 1: was that famous teleconference, Liz where Tony Anthony Fauci got
Speaker 1: together with some of his associates from around the world.
Speaker 1: They agreed an article would be written saying there was
Speaker 1: no credence to a Lablik.
Speaker 4: After that, it pretty.
Speaker 1: Much became impossible to suggest the lablique without being condemned
Speaker 1: as a conspiracy theorist and written off. But now it's
Speaker 1: all starting to come out that all the spy agencies
Speaker 1: were telling their governments this is what it is, and
Speaker 1: their governments just chose to suppress it.
Speaker 6: I mean, lies upon lies upon lies. They knew and
Speaker 6: they kept it from you. Why well, I could do
Speaker 6: an hour long monologue on that without drawing breath. But
Speaker 6: in terms of this particular story, no one's put it
Speaker 6: better than Michael Schellenberger, independent journo. He tweeted, the former
Speaker 6: head of the UK's Foreign intelligence agency m I six
Speaker 6: is really spelling it out for us.
Speaker 5: Here told Boris.
Speaker 6: Johnson in early twenty twenty that the COVID virus escaped
Speaker 6: from the Wuhan lab. That means that the US, the UK,
Speaker 6: Chinese and German governments all knew the truth, covered it
Speaker 6: up and spread disinformation.
Speaker 5: Closed.
Speaker 6: To be clear, the MI six documents said, it is
Speaker 6: now bit quote, it is now beyond reasonable doubt that
Speaker 6: COVID nineteen was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Speaker 6: I mean, my goodness, poor Sharry didn't even need to
Speaker 6: write the book if only these flogs had just coughed
Speaker 6: up the facts when they knew them.
Speaker 5: No, it took how many years has it been? Now
Speaker 5: it's five.
Speaker 6: Years after this fact and they are exposed for the
Speaker 6: liars that they are.
Speaker 5: Trust the experts.
Speaker 6: They said, well, if you're anything like me, you never
Speaker 6: did not for a minute.
Speaker 2: Although I think about all the royalties that Sharry would
Speaker 2: have missed out on if they had to come out
Speaker 2: with this in twenty twenty. It's because no one's thinking
Speaker 2: of Shari in this scenario. It's a very good arment,
Speaker 2: but it is just staggering. And the group think during
Speaker 2: COVID was just one of the ultimate just sort of
Speaker 2: mass collective shames on broken ground. It was just terrible
Speaker 2: and just the sheer, fearful, panic driven decision making and
Speaker 2: then the gas lighter say, okay, we've all agreed to
Speaker 2: this decision and now we're just all going to go
Speaker 2: off and do something completely different to what we've announced
Speaker 2: we're going to do, and no one is allowed to
Speaker 2: question that. I mean, and of course Tomi mites.
Speaker 1: Later all this information comes out, those responsible are now
Speaker 1: out of office.
Speaker 4: Everybody will just move.
Speaker 2: On, So let's never speak of it again. Like a
Speaker 2: cup of tea.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll look at tomorrow's headlines, including Federal Labor
Speaker 1: deletes evidence of their emissions modeling as they look increasingly
Speaker 1: unlikely to meet any of their emission's targets.
Speaker 4: But first, here's a quick word from Liz.
Speaker 6: Last Tuesday, The Late Debate featured a story about the
Speaker 6: unveiling of a statue of a Hindu god at the
Speaker 6: Hindu temple in Kevin's Creek, New South Wowes as part
Speaker 6: of a broader discussion about multiculturalism in Australia. During that discussion,
Speaker 6: I made some remarks that some viewers found offensive. I
Speaker 6: sincerely apologize to those viewers and want to acknowledge the
Speaker 6: contribution made by immigrants to Australia over many years, including
Speaker 6: the valuable role played by the Indian community. While issues
Speaker 6: such as multiculturalism are important subjects for debate. I want
Speaker 6: to stress my belief that racism has no place in Australia.
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what's making headlines intomorrow's papers.
Speaker 1: The Herald Sun has the Liberal Opposition shooting themselves in
Speaker 1: the foot. Vic Libb's fury as leader goes a wall
Speaker 1: in crime crisis to visit cyclone hit parents and spend
Speaker 1: four nights living it up on the high seas.
Speaker 4: I guess they would have been high seas.
Speaker 2: If he was visiting low seeds, there would have been
Speaker 2: no problem.
Speaker 4: But the high series cruise Control reads the headlines.
Speaker 1: State Opposition leader Brad Baton is facing a party backlash
Speaker 1: after claiming he was visiting a cyclone affected family as
Speaker 1: Victoria's crime us are spoiled over, but now admitting he
Speaker 1: also took a four night cruise.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The Victorian Liberal Party are doing pretty well. Just Siner
Speaker 1: Allen is in all kinds of trouble, performing backflips nearly
Speaker 1: every week, and the Victorian Libs want to unleash fury
Speaker 1: at their leader. This is something surely you just deal
Speaker 1: with quietly, but.
Speaker 2: Surely you don't go on the cruise in the middle
Speaker 2: of a there's been a problem, but there's been a
Speaker 2: crime crisis in Victoria for the last time. Use the
Speaker 2: natural disaster for going on, for getting away from that.
Speaker 2: The problem is that somewhere in the Victorian Liberal Party
Speaker 2: is this incredibly large red self destruct button just can't
Speaker 2: stop hitting. It's like I'm trying to blow myself up.
Speaker 2: They're like a political sort of suicide bomb. It's like, oh, look,
Speaker 2: we're doing quite well, so you've.
Speaker 1: Got your sin to alan in the middle of a
Speaker 1: crime crisis. She's fumbling her way through it. And now
Speaker 1: the Victorian Liberals make it all about themselves. And if
Speaker 1: he did go on a cruise after visiting his pair
Speaker 1: of honestly.
Speaker 4: Who cares?
Speaker 1: The goal is take government, not hold their leader accountable
Speaker 1: for did he go on a cruise after visiting his
Speaker 1: mum and dad.
Speaker 6: We'd rather like to think that our leaders do have
Speaker 6: a scare of integrity though, And it's headlines like these
Speaker 6: that can you imagine being PURSUITO Now, he'd be like,
Speaker 6: how do you are back?
Speaker 5: Men?
Speaker 4: Ash?
Speaker 6: Probably I'm just gonna make myself look good while I
Speaker 6: still can to the front page of.
Speaker 5: The Daily Telling.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: Compo claims go mental calling time on rampant psychological injury
Speaker 6: payouts and explosion in workers' compensation claims for psychological injuries
Speaker 6: is costing two point four.
Speaker 5: Billion a year.
Speaker 6: That's not million, that's billion a year, making the system unsustainable.
Speaker 6: New South Wales Treasurer Daniel Mooki has warned announcing an
Speaker 6: major crackdown is on the way.
Speaker 5: How do you crack down on psychological injuries? Well, I
Speaker 5: feel like, you know what, we've been too generous.
Speaker 6: It's shrinking the spectrum.
Speaker 2: It's making, it's making and it is very hard and
Speaker 2: that's why, like workers in New South but I swear
Speaker 2: to God, there's been a problem since forever and a day.
Speaker 2: It is constantly exploding, and it constantly gets broaden out
Speaker 2: and broaden out and broaden out to include more and
Speaker 2: more things like the NDAs or whatever. So the trick
Speaker 2: is to obviously you want to make sure that the
Speaker 2: people with real mental injuries and psychological injuries are taken
Speaker 2: care of, but.
Speaker 5: You also want to make it bullying.
Speaker 2: You're also to make sure that's the thing.
Speaker 1: The number of psychological claims has increased, it three times
Speaker 1: the rate of physical other clorcus compensation claims. And workers
Speaker 1: compensation premiums in New South Wales, called chris Men's have
Speaker 1: gone up eighty percent in the past four years.
Speaker 4: So the government's got.
Speaker 2: To do you get to pay them employe or not people? Well,
Speaker 2: I don't have any employees, so I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But I am just a thing, And so Chrispin said.
Speaker 1: People are claiming for stress, for burnout, for bullying, for harassment,
Speaker 1: for poor support, and primarily the growth is among younger
Speaker 1: staff members.
Speaker 5: Yeah, flake generation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we can guess what one of those. Something
Speaker 1: about the prevalence of it.
Speaker 6: I would categorize as a psychological injury, like your feelings
Speaker 6: are hurt, You're.
Speaker 2: Probably feeling treasurer shares your sentiments.
Speaker 5: Indeed, indeed, I mean it should be cracked down on.
Speaker 5: And good on them for doing something we clearly needed.
Speaker 2: See another endorsement of the men's Labor government by Liz Story.
Speaker 2: You heard it here first on the late debate to
Speaker 2: the odds now and a couple of really interesting yarns.
Speaker 2: First one Higgins scapegoat sues Feds by Ellie Dudley, who
Speaker 2: is all over this story like a cheap search. He's amazing.
Speaker 2: Political staffer Fiona Brown, who claims she was made to
Speaker 2: take the fall for the Morrison government in the wake
Speaker 2: of Britney Higgs rape allegations, has lodged a fair work
Speaker 2: case against the Commonwealth. Ms Brown, former chief of staff
Speaker 2: to Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds, filed documents in a federal
Speaker 2: court claim in the New South Wales Registry last week
Speaker 2: citing a quote breach of general protections. A legal team
Speaker 2: led by barrister Dominic Horn, Hogan, Dora and sc seeking
Speaker 2: to have elements of key documents suppressed, claiming a non
Speaker 2: publication order is necessary quote to protect the safety of
Speaker 2: any person. So there you have it. Fiona Brown, the
Speaker 2: former chief of staff of a former defense minister Linda Reynolds,
Speaker 2: is taking the government to court to see in the
Speaker 2: pace this story just keeps on keeping on. It is phenomenal.
Speaker 6: Just I cannot remember a time before this saga began.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it started before I was born and
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will go on to af drive. The
Speaker 2: other story on the front page is dude, whar's my
Speaker 2: carbon policy off target? ALP scrubs evidence? So that's actually
Speaker 2: a TYPEO is Australian Labor Party takes perfectly sensible precautions
Speaker 2: to remove problematic former policies from the publicly available material.
Speaker 5: It's cal damage control.
Speaker 2: We all know, Greg Brown, another great reporter, Labor will
Speaker 2: fail to meet key targets from the energy policy it
Speaker 2: took to the twenty twenty two election. Energy experts say
Speaker 2: after the party removed a link to the modeling from
Speaker 2: its website that underpins its pledge to lower carbon emissions
Speaker 2: by forty three percent of two thousand and five levels
Speaker 2: by twenty thirty. So basically you just take away it's
Speaker 2: just like it never happened. Indeedes are not the droids
Speaker 2: you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers was is today would the government commit in
Speaker 1: another term to lowering energy prices? And of course that
Speaker 1: promise was repeated ninety seven times prior to winning the
Speaker 1: last election. Jim Charmers client to say that they would
Speaker 1: promise prices would come down. Surely if they have another
Speaker 1: three years with all the renewables they're pumping into the system,
Speaker 1: as Chris Bowen tells us, is the answer. They could say, look,
Speaker 1: we promised, just give us three more years, prices will
Speaker 1: come down. But they're not even confident enough to say
Speaker 1: that and it goes to.
Speaker 6: Show that they two have admitted defeat by taking this
Speaker 6: down off the website.
Speaker 5: They want people to forget.
Speaker 6: That they ever made these outlandish promises, which every energy
Speaker 6: expert or corporation in the country has said for a
Speaker 6: couple of years. Now these are pie in the sky.
Speaker 6: There's absolutely no way we can make them. So they're
Speaker 6: trying to wipe the.
Speaker 5: SAT slate clean, remove all the evidence. And what better
Speaker 5: than should remove it.
Speaker 1: You take the link for the website off your site,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes news.
Speaker 4: You just left it there, we wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Talking about it, but in trying to hide it, it
Speaker 1: becomes front page of the Australian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I'm sorry. They're just the lesson.
Speaker 2: Here is a modeling. How good is modeling? Molly will
Speaker 2: take it anything you wanted to tell you and be that.
Speaker 2: All these kind of You've got so many sort of
Speaker 2: cheerleaders saying, oh, yes, we can do this, we can
Speaker 2: do this, we can change the world, all based on
Speaker 2: the assumption that absolutely everybody works together in complete harmony
Speaker 2: and nothing goes wrong. That is not the way things
Speaker 2: work in the real world.
Speaker 4: It's not the way it works we're going to go
Speaker 4: to a break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, a four year old toddler rings
Speaker 1: nine one one, waiting we hear the crime.
Speaker 4: That this kid was reporting. That's coming up in a moment. Well,
Speaker 4: it's a parent.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was a good idea, is to
Speaker 1: teach your kids how to make an emergency phone call
Speaker 1: just in case. Maybe it's not such a good idea after.
Speaker 5: All, not for this four year old in Wisconsin. When
Speaker 5: I was a kid, I used to threaten.
Speaker 6: My parents that I would call the police for their
Speaker 6: liberal use of corporal punishment. This kid, he witnessed a
Speaker 6: crime and he wanted to.
Speaker 5: Make sure that justice would be done. This is what ensued. I, Oh,
Speaker 5: it's the police. They came for real to jail. Why
Speaker 5: do you want mommy to go to jail.
Speaker 7: Because I because imagine me?
Speaker 5: Why should be in bad to you? Because yours? Because
Speaker 5: you didn't get ice cream? Yet?
Speaker 2: I didn't get ice cream.
Speaker 10: So is there why you're upset?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I did.
Speaker 5: So no calling nine one one unless it's a real emergency. Okay,
Speaker 5: mommy has to go to jail. He's like, what do
Speaker 5: you mean a real emergency? This is a real emergency.
Speaker 6: My mom stopped my eyes grayed late. Lock her up,
Speaker 6: Lock her up too cute.
Speaker 1: The police actually returned two days later with ice cream
Speaker 1: for the kids.
Speaker 4: I mean it paid off in the end, Joe.
Speaker 2: This is the thing they're sending the complete wrong message,
Speaker 2: the messages that crime doesn't pay. Piz.
Speaker 6: He's going to be calling nine one one every other
Speaker 6: day now.
Speaker 2: These young offenders, they just get younger and younger and younger.
Speaker 2: Lock him up, that's all you parents.
Speaker 1: You know, you often talk about if looks could kill,
Speaker 1: and my mum had one of those looks. You know,
Speaker 1: real power is when you don't have to say anything,
Speaker 1: you just look at the person who has upset you.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump has that power.
Speaker 1: And when he was accidentally hit in the face by
Speaker 1: a reporter's microphone, Trump didn't need to say a word.
Speaker 7: Mister president.
Speaker 9: God, God, he just became a big story that I.
Speaker 1: Had right, I reckon for that split second that reporter
Speaker 1: would have been absolutely terrified. And then Trump made light
Speaker 1: of it. He's a great performer, but I like the
Speaker 1: way he handled that.
Speaker 6: Indeed, and that is the coolest way you can handle
Speaker 6: these kind of things. Just keep you cool, don't make
Speaker 6: a big deal out of it.
Speaker 5: That is his that is how he operates.
Speaker 2: I reckon it was on purpose there. I said it,
Speaker 2: good night everybody. My dad had to hit him in
Speaker 2: the face with the boom mics. This is for the
Speaker 2: Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 5: I think you're projecting, Joe. That's what you do.
Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for tonight, stick around. Coming
Speaker 1: up is Therena Penny Show.
Speaker 4: Good Night,