WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 2 February

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, gang, Welcome to Sunday Night here on pul

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<v Speaker 3>Murray Live. One for the hard Cause, one where we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Right into it Tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Nights is where we have a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>state of the race.

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<v Speaker 3>Now obviously the election ain't called, but we have to

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<v Speaker 3>look at what's going around. In a moment or two,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you some real insight into who

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<v Speaker 3>is playing the strongest hand when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 3>online world. But tonight, as always, we have Kossa Marris

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<v Speaker 3>will join us from Redbridge.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 3>The people have got lots of data behind the data

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<v Speaker 3>and the great Michael Kroger also no sook snow lefties.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're just firing up. So thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for watching. All right, obviously, let's keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening with our mates in North Queensland, because tropical

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<v Speaker 3>North Queensland is copying a bathering. I told you last

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<v Speaker 3>week about how that region had actually already received on

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<v Speaker 3>one day in some areas, one entire meter of water

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<v Speaker 3>in the past twenty four hours. Let's have a look here.

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<v Speaker 3>The darker it gets, the heavy the rain. Unsurprisingly, Townsville

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<v Speaker 3>a little higher, a little lower. That's where it is

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<v Speaker 3>all whacking away as we speak. That's more than one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred mills in the past sort of nine am to

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<v Speaker 3>nine am. So obviously the numbers for today are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be terrible. Lots of people having to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got family in Townsville. You know how often we've

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<v Speaker 3>done shows from there, So strength and love to everyone

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<v Speaker 3>who's dealing with this again.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hope that everyone's.

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<v Speaker 3>Following the advice of the sees, all the different volunteers,

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<v Speaker 3>Emergency Services Council, all the rest of it. Here in

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<v Speaker 3>a moment or two, we're going to have a chat

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<v Speaker 3>to a reporter who is there, because I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to know what's going on and whom needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>leaving their hosts a house and for those what the

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<v Speaker 3>next of the wall is going to be. But here's

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<v Speaker 3>the latest that we've heard today from the Queensland Police.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be impacts to critical infrastructures such as power,

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<v Speaker 4>water and water treatment. If you are being asked to

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<v Speaker 4>leave your premise in Townsville, please do so because it

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<v Speaker 4>is really dangerous for you, your family and the emergency services

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<v Speaker 4>if we need to come back and rescue you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the people that are doing the hard graft,

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<v Speaker 3>the many thousands of people who have had this experience

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<v Speaker 3>before when it was different water coming from different places,

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<v Speaker 3>but tropical weather. We know this to be part of summer,

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<v Speaker 3>but for it to be a big hit like this,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a meter's worth of rain in one day,

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<v Speaker 3>that is the expectation of these twenty four hours, on

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<v Speaker 3>top of the ones that had been there prior. This

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<v Speaker 3>is some of their reaction to what they're going through

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Now Again, we know it's a Townsville, a

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<v Speaker 3>little further north, little further south, little touch in and

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<v Speaker 3>around Kansas well, So while the focus might be for

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<v Speaker 3>us in Townsville, I get it. You know, an hour

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<v Speaker 3>ring over in Charters towers, all sorts of stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>happening around this part of our beautiful country, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know how much I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Two young children, we've got a third on the way,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just more about protecting the kids.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've decided to take them over to your mother

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<v Speaker 6>in law's house.

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<v Speaker 7>Just a bit disappointing thinking here it was only five

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<v Speaker 7>years ago and here we are again doing it all

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<v Speaker 7>over again exactly max in intermational But I'm just hoping

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<v Speaker 7>for the best guys again.

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<v Speaker 3>Strength and love to everyone again the family that will

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<v Speaker 3>hear this message.

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<v Speaker 2>All the best to you guys for the next little while.

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<v Speaker 2>As world.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll check all in on you again during the day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott on his weather. We'll now explain exactly what is

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<v Speaker 3>going on. Yes, it's summer, Yes there's tropical rain, Yes

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<v Speaker 3>there's wet seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is this so much right now?

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<v Speaker 8>It's a huge amount of rain, three to six months

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<v Speaker 8>worth for this time of year, even for the wet

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<v Speaker 8>tropics of Queensland. In it the wet season. Now the

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<v Speaker 8>forecast from Sunday night into Monday shows the monsoon trough.

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<v Speaker 8>This is that white dash line and the winds coming

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<v Speaker 8>it together. So this is leading it to a very

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<v Speaker 8>slow moving region of persistent heavy rain.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so hold on tight, we'll give you more information.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go live to Townsville in a moment or two

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<v Speaker 3>time as well as have we got the state of

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<v Speaker 3>the race. So cute little games being played by the

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<v Speaker 3>man who thinks he can slip through his way to

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<v Speaker 3>another term in parliament. Why because all those tea going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in place, nobody's going to change their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the one with more people who love me on

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<v Speaker 3>the internet. More on that in the moment now the

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister is playing a ridiculous game where a piece

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<v Speaker 3>of legislation which was introduced by his government based off

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<v Speaker 3>a report which was compiled for his government, is trying

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<v Speaker 3>now to pretend that the nature positive mess. That would

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<v Speaker 3>be something like the Heritage Orders in Western Australia, where

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<v Speaker 3>indigenous heritage meant you had to get somebody else to

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<v Speaker 3>double check whether you could do the smallest or the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest thing to the place of which you own. This time,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than indigenous heritage, it would be all around environmental impacts. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they say that, oh, this piece of legislation is apparently gone,

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<v Speaker 3>but is it. The Premiere of Western Australia has made

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<v Speaker 3>it very clear he does not want this anywhere near

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<v Speaker 3>what looks to be a re elected labor government in

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<v Speaker 3>Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that because I like it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>My thoughts on Roger Cook, particularly his performance during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>that poor little girl who died in the hospitals. The

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<v Speaker 3>idea that he gets rewarded in any way. Not a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is where it is in the book. He

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<v Speaker 3>seemed to believe that they're going to remain in government,

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<v Speaker 3>but something as bad as the heritage laws which they

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<v Speaker 3>introduced by the way at the State Parliament, that they

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<v Speaker 3>pulled because of its potential effects not just on the

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<v Speaker 3>government but also on the Voice a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want this thing anywhere near Western Australia. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>they've referred to the lat sippers that are pushing this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the Greens or the Labour people who should

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<v Speaker 3>be Greens who want a stronger environmental cop Now we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen in places like Queensland the absurdity of things like

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<v Speaker 3>land clearing laws.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being in.

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<v Speaker 3>Rockhampton for beef work a few years ago and people

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<v Speaker 3>were red hot.

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<v Speaker 2>This is their land. They know how best to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of.

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<v Speaker 3>It because breaking news, breaking news to the sharehouse kids.

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<v Speaker 1>If they ruin their land, they ruin their business.

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<v Speaker 3>So they want to take care of their land by

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<v Speaker 3>maybe clearing a tree here, clearing a tree there, because

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<v Speaker 3>either it's so close to the house that if there's

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<v Speaker 3>a storm it'll crush their house, or they.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to get rid of the crap so they can

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<v Speaker 2>expand a paddock.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, crazy stuff, crazy stuff, but a new Environmental

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<v Speaker 3>Protection Authority which always sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovely and you think about you know, clean air and clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Water, but all of those rules already exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead a federal level of bureaucracy that is so red

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<v Speaker 3>hot that even a labor premier themselves say not on

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<v Speaker 3>our watch. Business groups have joined the same call. Over

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<v Speaker 3>the past couple of days. The Business Council of Australia

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<v Speaker 3>has said, shell this thing, get rid of it, don't

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<v Speaker 3>go back, don't touch it. In fact, the boss of

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<v Speaker 3>the BCA, brand Black, I think we've got a photo

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<v Speaker 3>of him here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Said to The Australian this weekend, that they urge the

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<v Speaker 3>government to shelve the legislation after the election, then work

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<v Speaker 3>with all the stakeholders to undertake a holistic reform of

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<v Speaker 3>the Environmental Protection Act in line with the review which

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<v Speaker 3>had been put in place. Now that's relatively soft criticism

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<v Speaker 3>compared to what was happening with the Western Australian premiere.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm talking about this because guess what each way

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<v Speaker 3>albow saying one thing before an election and most likely

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<v Speaker 3>you will get something very different after don't wake up

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<v Speaker 3>and winge, don't tell me in two years. Jeez, I

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<v Speaker 3>wish we knew about We've been banging on about this

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<v Speaker 3>for months, months, and no matter their attempt to change

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<v Speaker 3>the subject. If the Greens are the tale that wags

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<v Speaker 3>the dog due to preferences and the cross bench, this

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<v Speaker 3>comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at this, despite the fact that the spin today

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<v Speaker 3>from Taxpayer Media was that Labor has shelved its contentious

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<v Speaker 3>nature positive laws, suggesting that in any interview with The

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<v Speaker 3>Conversation's Politics podcast, the Prime Minister has conceded he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>seek to path the success for the reform, so at

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<v Speaker 3>this stage I can say we won't be proceeding with

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<v Speaker 3>it in this term, adding the Government.

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<v Speaker 2>Would continue to discuss the issue during the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next term of parliament. So is everyone paying attention? The

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<v Speaker 3>law is not dead. It isn't really even in deep freeze.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prime Minister is simply removing it from the West

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<v Speaker 3>Australian election right now, removing it from the federal election

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<v Speaker 3>right now, with an absolute plan to reintroduce it with

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<v Speaker 3>what he believes will be more favorable numbers in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>or if he's in a minority government, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>wilder version of it because potentially Victorian Teals and certainly

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<v Speaker 3>the Greens where they will want it to be even bigger,

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<v Speaker 3>even louder.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay attention.

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<v Speaker 3>How you vote matters, you know that, But where your

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<v Speaker 3>preferences go also matter. If preferences are the same way

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<v Speaker 3>they were back in twenty nineteen, then surprise result may

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<v Speaker 3>be on the carts. If it's bugging them all and

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<v Speaker 3>you want to send the preference out for a long wander,

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<v Speaker 3>then guess what you're most likely going to end up with,

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<v Speaker 3>either the government we currently have or a reduced version

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<v Speaker 3>of it at the next election. We'll talk plenty more

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<v Speaker 3>about this, and others will pretend that they have always

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<v Speaker 3>fought the fight. You know how long we've been talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I look forward to talking about it, specifically

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<v Speaker 3>with James Ashby, who was the first to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it here on Paul Murray Live, many.

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<v Speaker 1>Many, many, many, many many months ago. The first ads

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<v Speaker 1>of the election year are up and running.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. Most of these will end up on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 3>but we show them to you just in case they

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<v Speaker 3>pop up on your television. Here is the first ad

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<v Speaker 3>from the Libs.

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<v Speaker 9>The right decisions aren't always popular, but I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 9>in taking me as you pass because we live in

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<v Speaker 9>the best country in the world and I'm determined to

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<v Speaker 9>get Australia back on track.

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<v Speaker 3>And today the first ads from the Labor Party, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are going full time.

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<v Speaker 10>Every little bit helps. But look who was opposed to

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<v Speaker 10>every single.

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<v Speaker 11>One of them.

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<v Speaker 10>Whichever way you look at it, you'll be worse off

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<v Speaker 10>under done.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes my blood boil.

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<v Speaker 3>And because they're in first, then any attempt to use

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<v Speaker 3>any form of that language will be considered copycat. The

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<v Speaker 3>idea don't vote for the other guy because it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be worse. Right now, we remember this was a

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<v Speaker 3>failing way of running an election three years ago with

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<v Speaker 3>not easy under alb and easy.

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<v Speaker 1>But things have got worse on his watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, potentially they're ever so slightly better, mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at a scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, twelve interest rate rises on their watch, living standards

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<v Speaker 3>that are back to the nineteen forties nineteen forty nine, specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>the value of the Australian dollar in trouble, three point

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<v Speaker 3>four million people who don't know where their food is

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<v Speaker 3>coming from, each and every week. That's food insecurity, not

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<v Speaker 3>to mention record homelessness. Throw on top of that, how

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<v Speaker 3>expensive the rental market is, how few properties there are

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<v Speaker 3>in the rental market. Yet this government is the one

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<v Speaker 3>who has decided to bring in more than a million

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<v Speaker 3>people to every single one of those lines. What absolute

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<v Speaker 3>garbage for the government to be arguing that despite the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that their promise was and.

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<v Speaker 1>I love have it, no one's going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>hold on a littleccount for this I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Their promise was twenty twenty two cost of living lower

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<v Speaker 3>under a labor government. That was their promise, that's before

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<v Speaker 3>they came in.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead, all of it worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but don't get rid of us because the other

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<v Speaker 3>guy will make it even worse. What a bizarre sort

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<v Speaker 3>of Jedi mind trick attempt at trying to gaslight the

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<v Speaker 3>Australian people. The reason I show you those ads is

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<v Speaker 3>because obviously in a couple of minutes we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a chat with the lads to have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the state of the race, the state of

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<v Speaker 1>the ads.

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<v Speaker 3>What message is potentially out there to move the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are kind of soft, the undecideds, which depending on

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<v Speaker 3>a poll could be five percent, or it could be

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<v Speaker 3>thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality is that Australia as a federal government,

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<v Speaker 3>despite the fact that it is taking on more revenue

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<v Speaker 3>than it's ever taken on before.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one source of that revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>You You the person who is the payers.

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<v Speaker 2>You go taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 3>They pay collectively more than the entirety of company tax,

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<v Speaker 3>the multiples of the entirety of the amount of money

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<v Speaker 3>out of the GST. And as a result of decisions

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<v Speaker 3>that have been made by this government, they have locked

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<v Speaker 3>in a deal where they will be spending more than

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<v Speaker 3>the money that they will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be taking in. And it's not me making it up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's their own document, its generational Report released a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago by the Treasurer. I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>the same budget where they took fifteen hundred dollars as

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<v Speaker 3>the load of middle income tax offset of ten million voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, cost living, total focus.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one where budget deficits from now for the

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<v Speaker 3>next forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Say look the next forty years. That is the expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it, it's ever so slightly better, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>gets really bad. You know, the deal here right, there's

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<v Speaker 3>only so many times you can put money into the

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<v Speaker 3>never never. Well, this is the never never, kids, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the stuff that's just in the budget, little one,

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<v Speaker 3>the tens of billion dollars that's being invested off budget.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is pressure on the opposition not just to

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<v Speaker 3>make the most of this politically, and they are generally

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<v Speaker 3>hovering around the right spot, which is they need to

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<v Speaker 3>rain in how much money is being spent by the

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<v Speaker 3>federal government. Now, of course this will be instantly interpreted

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<v Speaker 3>in the way the Labor Party always does, which is, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you a dollar now, but I

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<v Speaker 3>promise to give you ten in five years time. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the loops come in and say, okay, you can

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<v Speaker 3>keep your dollar, but we're not going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>ten in five years time. Cut nine dollar cut is

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<v Speaker 3>on its way to money you've never got.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a made up promise from apology into the neven.

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<v Speaker 12>Ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Peter Dutton, talking about spending, did so today again

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<v Speaker 3>on taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 12>Telling if we find wasteful spending, our intent is to

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<v Speaker 12>cut it and that will result in obviously an overall

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<v Speaker 12>reduction in government expenditure. And if you're saving twenty four

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<v Speaker 12>billion dollars plus over the forward estimates with.

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<v Speaker 2>The public servants.

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<v Speaker 12>That's money that you can either use to pay off

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<v Speaker 12>debt or you can use to put downward pressure on inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's it those of us that would like this

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<v Speaker 2>fight to be as close as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming down to the last counting on the night in

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<v Speaker 3>Western Australia to decide exactly what type of government we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get. Is it going to be Team Read

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<v Speaker 3>with a majority, Team Read with a minority, Team Blue

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<v Speaker 3>with a minority, Team Blue with a majority. There are

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<v Speaker 3>predictions out there for all of those options. The bookies

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<v Speaker 3>think that that will end up going a Team Blue's way.

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<v Speaker 3>But they decided to not name a huge amount of

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<v Speaker 3>specifics about the areas that they are going to pull

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<v Speaker 3>back on. Why because they want will avoid this cut

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<v Speaker 3>cut cut cut cut staff that the Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 3>expecting to launch as its attack on the alternative Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is when you say this.

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<v Speaker 12>We need to sit down and look through an erc process,

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<v Speaker 12>which would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the normal course of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Will do that in government.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything will be interpreted by the Labor Party as being

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<v Speaker 3>on the table. Remember the nonsense they did with medi scare.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire actual factual basis of medi scare was that

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<v Speaker 3>an option had been written down on paper by the

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<v Speaker 3>bureaucrats about some back office staff and efficiencies that's privatizing.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a whole election campaign about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine what they might be able to do with a

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<v Speaker 3>verbal blank check that's being suggested there. Now, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that Peter Dutton, when laser like and when on message,

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<v Speaker 3>he wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you see what happened with the voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Australians believe always that when their personal circumstances are as

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<v Speaker 3>difficult as they are right now, that the government should

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<v Speaker 3>be feeling the same sort of difficult financial circumstances that

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<v Speaker 3>they are. So there is absolute strong area here and

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<v Speaker 3>just sit in amper gymper price. It is her job,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, to be across all of this and to

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<v Speaker 3>start serving up some examples. Serve up some examples. Do

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<v Speaker 3>one a week, do three a week, But just keep

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<v Speaker 3>pounding away, because if you have lots and lots of

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<v Speaker 3>those little examples, well it's going to help narrow the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And that, of course is what we will be discussing

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<v Speaker 3>a little later tonight. Lots of data details and all

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of it will be following. But let's get two.

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening right now in North Queensland. And Lauren

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<v Speaker 3>Forbes joins us now from mighty Townsville, which is yet

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<v Speaker 3>again copying it, this time with almost a meter.

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<v Speaker 2>Worth of rain.

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<v Speaker 3>She is safely away from it right now, but looking

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<v Speaker 3>like she's in one of the main drags there right now, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 3>give us an idea of how the town's holding up

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<v Speaker 3>and what may be happening tonight.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Paul, roads have turned into rivers and floodwaters have

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<v Speaker 13>swallowed streets, cutting off entire communities at some points today

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<v Speaker 13>now here in Townsville, it seems like waters have begun

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<v Speaker 13>receding this afternoon, but it's giving a sense of false relief.

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<v Speaker 13>The danger still remains. There's more relentless rain on the

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<v Speaker 13>way in the coming days, and we could see rain

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<v Speaker 13>totals of up to a meter all the way until Wednesday. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>that's why at least six areas, six local communities in

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<v Speaker 13>low lying areas here in Townsville have been put under

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<v Speaker 13>an evacuation order that's in place as of midday. Now

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<v Speaker 13>we'll get those areas up on the screen. It includes Cludon,

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<v Speaker 13>Hermit Park, Idailya and Nunabar Railway Estate and ross Lee.

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<v Speaker 13>Now as we go to Air Paul, I just received

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<v Speaker 13>a text message from the emergency management team that's been

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<v Speaker 13>run out of the city Council says that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 13>return to the area, which suggests that some people may

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<v Speaker 13>be considering that as they see these waters slowly received

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<v Speaker 13>but it is low tide typically at nighttime here in

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<v Speaker 13>North Queensland. Now police have spent the couple few days

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<v Speaker 13>door knocking the area warning residents of these potentially life

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<v Speaker 13>threatening floods. Now up to one thousand and seven hundred

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<v Speaker 13>homes could potentially be inundated and go under these waters.

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<v Speaker 13>Now further north here from Townhill in Ingham, that's where

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<v Speaker 13>tragedy really unfolded this morning an Sees vessel it went

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<v Speaker 13>under with us. At least six passengers on board. Five

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<v Speaker 13>were located safe, but tragically a woman has died. Now

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<v Speaker 13>Premier David chris of fully has expressed his deepest condolences

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<v Speaker 13>and obviously they're that tight community. That tight community is

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<v Speaker 13>also raveling from this tragedy.

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<v Speaker 14>There has been the loss of life in floodwaters in

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<v Speaker 14>Ingham and that's a really tight knit community and our

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<v Speaker 14>thoughts and prayers are with the family.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, as you mentioned before, Paul, some areas have copped

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<v Speaker 13>up to eight hundred millimeters of rain, that is nearly

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<v Speaker 13>a meter of rain. Now it's not just impacting the

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<v Speaker 13>floodwaters here at supermarkets across towns Will Supermarket at the

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<v Speaker 13>shelves in supermarkets are empty. More than eight thousand propies

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<v Speaker 13>are also impacted. They're left without power and as well

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<v Speaker 13>as Townsville Airport it's been closed down earlier today around midday.

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<v Speaker 13>Now that's stopping inbound and outbound flights today and tomorrow. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>Flood Assistance has assistance money has also been activated. That's

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<v Speaker 13>one hundred and eighty dollars for people who've had to

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<v Speaker 13>flee due to these evacuation orders, as well as nine

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<v Speaker 13>hundred dollars for families of five or more.

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<v Speaker 15>We are already rolling out assistant to people affected by

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<v Speaker 15>these natural disasters, and if and when more assistance is necessary,

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<v Speaker 15>we will be there for you as well.

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<v Speaker 13>But Paul, obviously, right now survival is the priority. Rivers

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<v Speaker 13>are still rising and there is more relentless rain in

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<v Speaker 13>this area. On the cards. Authorities are advising locals to

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<v Speaker 13>please seek higher ground while they still can.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on you, Lauren, thank you so much. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a long day.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure that you can get the

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<v Speaker 3>bed recharge, be there for Pete in the morning and

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<v Speaker 3>give the latest infato everyone in that part of the

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<v Speaker 3>world enjoy, well, not enjoy, but to make the most

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<v Speaker 3>of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Lauren, appreciate it. If my Townsville memory is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not too far right now from Cowboys Leagues Club.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get into the conversation right now with

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<v Speaker 3>Coas Samaras, who is joining us as part of this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation each and every week about the state of the race.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, of course from the red Bridge Group.

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<v Speaker 3>Their work is phenomenal, honestly, like they put out a

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<v Speaker 3>pole every few months, so detailed, right, and like he's

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<v Speaker 3>a proper data guy, like I'm the amateur data guy

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<v Speaker 3>Okay's and the information they have spectacular. Him and Simon,

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<v Speaker 3>great team with everyone else there. And Michael Kroger, well

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<v Speaker 3>he knows the data like at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Back of his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been through many many an election and he joins

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<v Speaker 1>us from.

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<v Speaker 3>Melbourne as well, So too many let us start with

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<v Speaker 3>where I have already brought the audience, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>about the advertising. The very first ads. Now this is

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<v Speaker 3>not the definitive ad. There will be multiple versions, the

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<v Speaker 3>all Good Book of Music, the Black and White, the cut,

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<v Speaker 3>cut cut, all of that that's coming its way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But as first and opening salvos here, Michael, don't the

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<v Speaker 3>lips have to hit harder? Or is the assumption that

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<v Speaker 3>that argument's been made already to the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>off the government. So we're now trying to get into

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<v Speaker 3>specifically demo thirty five to fifty five year old women,

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<v Speaker 3>who of course help impart prop up the teals.

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<v Speaker 16>So the liberal add is a traditional positioning.

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<v Speaker 6>Out of its leader. They're not well being addeds.

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<v Speaker 16>They reinforce pre existing impressions, which is what advertising does.

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<v Speaker 16>You can't start an election campaign with something which no

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<v Speaker 16>one believes, right, You've got three or four years to

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<v Speaker 16>position your party, which is what Dutton's done, and an

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<v Speaker 16>advertising campaign during election will reinforce a pre existing impression. Now,

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<v Speaker 16>the terrible thing about that labor ad I think it's

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<v Speaker 16>a chakra. And I'll tell you why thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 16>the country think we're going in the right direction. Sixty

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<v Speaker 16>percent overwhelmingly Australians think Australia is going in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 16>You look at that labor ad there saying you know,

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<v Speaker 16>Dutton's voted all against all these things. What you're saying

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<v Speaker 16>to people is, we know you think things are shocking already,

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<v Speaker 16>but they're going to be worse under Dutton.

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<v Speaker 6>Shock.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to bring the fuel.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the he's on fire, He'll bring the fuel.

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<v Speaker 16>People look at that out and go, you've got to

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<v Speaker 16>be kidding him, mate, You've done a shocking job. Don't

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<v Speaker 16>sit there and tell me that this bloke's going to

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<v Speaker 16>be worse. What are you going to do to fix

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<v Speaker 16>the mess you've got us in?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 16>That's why that ad won't work. It's a wrong negative

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<v Speaker 16>aut at this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a giggle because they've decided to sort of add

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<v Speaker 3>in the bit of the AI shading, making it look

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<v Speaker 3>like some sort of prison I don't know what they're

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to sigilimly hit. But let's not play that one.

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<v Speaker 3>So because obviously, you know, I'm an opinion guy. Mine's

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<v Speaker 3>fairly obvious here. But let's look at the labor side

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<v Speaker 3>of things, right, I mean, every focus group every piece

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<v Speaker 3>of information. There was a poll last year that what's

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<v Speaker 3>seventy something percent of people they could name a single

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<v Speaker 3>thing that financially benefited them under this government. So what

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<v Speaker 3>is Labor playing on about? Look, we know it's garbage,

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<v Speaker 3>but it'll be worse under the other. Don't they blame

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<v Speaker 3>them for what it's currently like.

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<v Speaker 17>Look, having tested a lot of these sort of ads

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<v Speaker 17>over many years in the research capacity, one thing I

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<v Speaker 17>can say is that ad looks like it's actually focused

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<v Speaker 17>on their base. So if you think about what's going

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<v Speaker 17>on right now, there are dozens of seats in play,

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<v Speaker 17>but they're ever so tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is within the margin of.

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<v Speaker 17>Error and driving that real volatility within within Labour's electorates

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<v Speaker 17>is Labour's own base. So based on our research, for example,

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<v Speaker 17>up to fifty five percent of its boat is soft wow.

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<v Speaker 17>So that is actually pitched to the diehards. It's not

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<v Speaker 17>pitched to the people that they want to secure in

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<v Speaker 17>Northern Queensland or in other electorates which they don't currently occupied.

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<v Speaker 17>This is purely a defensive advertisement and so if you

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<v Speaker 17>were to ask me, does it work beyond that?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 17>Upfacet to these sort of ads before that don't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I would suggest the same about the narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, look, surprise and price they're going to put

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<v Speaker 3>together that I'm a good blowadd let's get to let's

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<v Speaker 3>can we get ahead of the inevitable media conversation around

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 3>a rate cut? Now I get it rate cut better

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<v Speaker 3>than rate increase. But when the financial pressure has been

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen interest rate riser since May twenty two, dare I

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<v Speaker 3>say the metaphorical sort of pressure is so tight that

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, thirty percent of the country trying to

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<v Speaker 3>pay off a house is right being a purple right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know they're going to be dancing because the

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>pressure of thirteen becomes the pressure of twelve. Cause is

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<v Speaker 3>there a free piece of advice you'd like to give

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<v Speaker 3>to those that will say all.

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<v Speaker 1>Over cost of living's done?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's change the subject back to the ones that we

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<v Speaker 3>know are going to help the mob that we love.

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<v Speaker 17>Strong bit of advice I've given the labor side is

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<v Speaker 17>if a rad cut does occur, language should be we

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<v Speaker 17>know Australians have actually been suffering. This rate cut is

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<v Speaker 17>a result of all they're hard work. Because when we

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<v Speaker 17>speaks about this and we did so last week and

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<v Speaker 17>particularly in Western Sydney, we asked them, what do you

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<v Speaker 17>think about conversation right now in the media around inflation

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<v Speaker 17>coming down and a possibility of a rate cup. Do

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<v Speaker 17>you think that's a good news for the Ambanizi government.

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<v Speaker 17>Their response, which was uniform, No, we've paid for this. Yes,

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 17>our own misery right, and so my strong advice to

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 17>them will be not our plan is working. Know you've

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<v Speaker 17>actually been through tough times. We're going to stand next

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 17>to you. We have a long journey ahead of a

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<v Speaker 17>stick with us.

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<v Speaker 3>That will be my advice to And then conversely, Michael

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 3>the Liberal Party pushing back on all of that, You

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<v Speaker 3>know that many people sitting around in the room they're

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 3>going to want to interpret this as mission accomplished. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't believe one of the TV networks actually did

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<v Speaker 3>mission accomplished late last year when the headline number was

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<v Speaker 3>sort of getting near it.

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<v Speaker 2>Please we all know.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the fundamental disconnect between say the end

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<v Speaker 3>part of the Biden Harris campaign, which is you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell people the latest stat says this. They they've felt reality,

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>which is not made up, it's their live reality. Helps

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 3>say okay, you're full of it. If you keep saying

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<v Speaker 3>it to you, I'm going to stop listening. If there

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<v Speaker 3>is a rate cut, how do the Libs play a

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<v Speaker 3>rate cut?

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<v Speaker 16>M Yeah, mission accompliss sounds of it like George w doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It it does?

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<v Speaker 6>You were correct?

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<v Speaker 16>So mate, people are not mugs, all right, And as

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 16>Richo says, the mob will always work you out. The

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 16>Australian public believes that this crisis that we're in at

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<v Speaker 16>the minute is principally because of the Alberanzi government, and

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<v Speaker 16>the reason they feel so they're so hard on the

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<v Speaker 16>Albenzi government is that in the lead up to the

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<v Speaker 16>twenty two election, he said it's all Morrison's fault, we

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<v Speaker 16>can fix it, and there's two hundred and seventy five dollars,

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<v Speaker 16>et cetera, et cetera. Right, So part of their problem

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 16>is they went too hard, right they said what Menji said?

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 16>Menji said, never never promised beyond your capacity to deliver.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 16>This mob went so hard against Scott Morrison and Josh Friedenberg.

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<v Speaker 16>So hard were that two hundred and seventy five dollars,

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<v Speaker 16>which they repeated one hundreds of times. As we know

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 16>and we've seen add fornidem they led people to believe

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 16>this is a crisis credded by Scott Morrison. So people

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 16>come into the current environment thinking themselves, we were conned

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 16>at the last election. That's the biggest problem Labour's got right.

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 16>People feel they were conned by Albanezi and Bowen and

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 16>Charmers and the rest of them. That's one of the

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 16>reasons they're so angry at Labor over what is happening now,

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<v Speaker 16>and which is why a rate cut will marginally help labor.

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<v Speaker 16>Of course, because of some people will believe that we're

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<v Speaker 16>on the way to utopia. But for the vast majority

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 16>of Australians, they've got a predetermined view about Albo and

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 16>that is that album misled them with the last election.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, how many people do think like that? In

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<v Speaker 2>your focus scripts, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say the word.

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<v Speaker 17>I wouldn't say they feel calmed. I would say that

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<v Speaker 17>they feel let down, right, and so what they wanted

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 17>from this federal government was a stronger response during twenty

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 17>twenty three as those interest.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Rates were piling in on them.

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<v Speaker 17>That's where Albanesi and his government got into a lot

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<v Speaker 17>of hot water. So they basically accrue during that referendum

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<v Speaker 17>view a lot of empathy deficit, so a lot of

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 17>Austrangers feel like they didn't care because I'll preoccupy with

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<v Speaker 17>other things other than the crisis that everyone was experiencing

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 17>their own home. So that's what's really going on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>at the beginning of the winning of the term, they

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<v Speaker 17>were doing pretty well. Polls were great, they won the

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<v Speaker 17>aston by election, you know, unheard of in terms of

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<v Speaker 17>a result, so they kind of like they was willing

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<v Speaker 17>to give this guy a bit of a go. So

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<v Speaker 17>you know, that empathy difference is yet to be fixed.

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<v Speaker 17>Hence my previous comment, which is they've got to use

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<v Speaker 17>language that is sympathetic to what Australians have experienced.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't put this on the agenda, but I know

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 3>you both can take this one on the flight, which

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>is okay. So at this moment in time, we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>a little idea of some of the strategy here, right,

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>which is the Dunton's trying to keep it to big

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 3>themes basically, you know, trying to bond across the waters

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<v Speaker 3>with the general mainstream Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Albo is trying to do the same, but also has

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>literally made promiseses tens of billions of dollars in the

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>month of January, and basically it's been that traditional ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen welcome here to this line, the event here

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<v Speaker 3>and now are the government here by announces a million

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>dollars for this. It doesn't play outside of frankly, the

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>people in the room, probably not even at times some

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>of the locals.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>That it's targeted at.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>So because as somebody trying to come back from that

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 3>empathy deficit, if the largest thing you're going to do

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 3>each and every day seems to be the same kind

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of localized money money, money promises, even if it's you know,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:26.719
<v Speaker 3>they turn around to one thousand dollars for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a point in a government's life.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're sure, I'll take the money, but I don't

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 3>care any more power and just buying it's not going

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>to work.

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<v Speaker 17>We have a preview Queensland State election. Correct, So the

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 17>Queensland State government they basically fry money or or around

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 17>the place, trying and basically givince people to actually care

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 17>about it costly in crisis. It didn't work. It may

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 17>have helped them in a couple of seats, but it

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 17>didn't help the overall movement against them. The problem that

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<v Speaker 17>I think right now the government got is that it's

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 17>unlikely they're going to be able to hold onto their majority.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 17>They are now playing a game of trying to keep

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<v Speaker 17>enough sets on this side allegic to for minority government.

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 17>Dunton still has a mountain of climb to get to

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 17>seventy six is an enormous mountain to overcome at the

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 17>moment I see the numbers therefore, and they actually get

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<v Speaker 17>into seventy six, So we're going to be in for

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:24.959
<v Speaker 17>a long ride here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and certainly again Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, plenty of chat about what's going to happen there,

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and that means long night for everyone and all their

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 3>TV counting and all the rest of it. Great for

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>everyone watching because I know how much you want to

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 3>see what's going to happen here. But Michael, we've talked

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 3>before about the mountain, about how high the climb is,

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>all the rest of it. Right, But if we're in

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 3>a scenario and a few people talk to me about

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 3>this over the weekend, now again we're in the world

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 3>of hypothesis. But welcome to the joy of a talk

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 3>t V show. If we all knew, we'd all have

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>entered lotto last week. But let's imagine if they both

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>land very close to seventy right, one up, one down,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 3>but basically banging there. If you have a look at

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<v Speaker 3>the potential cross bench, it's center left, not center right,

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 3>and we.

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Can say, oh, well the teal's formally but they've just

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>been re elected, right Wilkie.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, yes, there's a sharky who always turns around

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and says, whoever has the most seats gets the first call.

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.719
<v Speaker 2>We know Kada would be theoretically of that space.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>But if it's basically dead even at the end, doesn't

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Albo start in front because of the likely lefty lean

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>of the cross bench where a re elected Victorian teal,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't imagine them taking greater pleasure than an up

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>yours to the bloke from Queensland.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 16>By the way Couse uses the word let down, I

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 16>use the word conned. I think it leads to the

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 16>same conclusion, which is people are very disappointed in the government.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 16>Leads to the same conclusion. So mate, that's fantasy. Let

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 16>me just put this in context. The betting markets have

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 16>Albanezi a six percent chance of winning government in.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 6>His own right six six. So Albo says, I'm going

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 6>to win governor in my own right.

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<v Speaker 16>No, there's zero chance, Albow, of you winning in your

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 16>own right, mate, zero. So it's not going to be

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 16>seventy each. I think Dutton's on seventy two and I

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 16>think Albo's probably on sixty seven.

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 6>At the minute.

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<v Speaker 16>There's thirteen seats that I've got en doubt in New

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 16>South Wales in Victoria, and these are seats of four, five, six,

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 16>seven percent. And as you know, the labor voter who's

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 16>collapsed in Victoria princely because of the appalling state Labor government,

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 16>secondly because of the appalling performance of Elbow. So Dutton

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 16>is going to start ahead of Albow. And the question

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 16>is can he get from seventy two to seventy six

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 16>With the expected cross bench he can get to seventy

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 16>six and become Prime minister. But I think there's also

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 16>a very good chance now that that Dutton can win

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 16>his own right. So I think things seem to be

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 16>going south continually for Albou. We're now February, right, I

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 16>mean Albou has been bashing Peter Dutton and the Coalition

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 16>for six months.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 6>They're spitting their wheels.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, they're in one of those cycling classes in

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 16>the gym. They're going hard mate, but the bike ain't

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<v Speaker 16>going anywhere except backwards.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 16>The antisemitism in this country is causing them huge damage.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, I've got a lot of friends in the

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 16>Indian community in Australia here in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 6>They hate this stuff. They hate this stuff.

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<v Speaker 16>All the migrant communities have come to this country think

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 16>it can be the Jews one day and us the

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<v Speaker 16>next day. They are appalled by what's happening. That's why

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<v Speaker 16>there's a shy Dutton voter effect in this country. It's

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 16>not directed against men's in New South Wales, who's done

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<v Speaker 16>an excellent job, I might add. And when Chris Minn

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 16>speaks Paul, you know he believes what he's saying. When

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 16>Albo speaks about anti Semitism, no one believes a word.

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 16>This bloke says he never been to a bar Mits

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 16>Fro until two weeks ago. He hasn't been to israelph

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 16>for twenty five years. He sends Penny Wong to Auschwitzman.

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<v Speaker 16>Everything this guy does, you know, he wouldn't call it

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 16>James Patterson and Sarah Henderson. Let's have an Let's have

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 16>a judicial inquiry. The two lib will send it us

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 16>to Victoria. So let's have a judicial inquiry to anti

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 16>Semitis on campus. Who could disagree with that except elbow

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 16>Albert said, no, no, we're not having an inquiry to

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 16>Andy seven on campus. If anything tells you this guy's

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 16>not sympathetic the Jewish community. That does, and this plays

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 16>out through the whole migrant communities in this country. That's

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<v Speaker 16>why there's a shy Dutton voter effect that that polsters

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<v Speaker 16>cannot pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Up my prediction. They'll announce some sort of an inquiry,

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<v Speaker 3>but it'll take probably about four weeks to pick the

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<v Speaker 3>people who will be on it, which would mean after

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<v Speaker 3>the election. Lads, let's talk again next week. Thank you

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 3>for your insights, so we'll have even more to say

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<v Speaker 3>next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, let's get the Noseoks no Lefties, which is

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the debate portion of the program. If you would like

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<v Speaker 3>to join us, firstly, you kinda watching, which I appreciate,

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 3>but you can participate.

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<v Speaker 2>You can I send you an email.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics Godnews dot com dot au talked in.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive me for being personal, but you know, I try

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>to be the most honest person on telling. By that,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean I'll tell you what's actually going on in

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 3>my life. I'll tell you what's going on off the screen.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know, ring the new paper or alerts

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.439
<v Speaker 3>new idea. I tell you because you watched the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I had an amazing day today with the Murray half

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 3>of our family and it was awesome to see everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do the shout out that will

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>take about four and a half hours, but it was

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>amazing to see, you know, my little girl playing with

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 3>my cousins that.

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>It was really cool. The point is this family is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Family is all that matters. So whatever issues.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>There may be in your family, and every family has issues,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 3>including ours, right resolve it, get past it, say sorry,

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 3>even if you don't remember what you say sorry for,

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<v Speaker 3>and just enjoy being around each other because it is

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<v Speaker 3>honestly all that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, sadly Gran's no longer here to be

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, but in her.

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit, we were together. It was awesome to see everyone today.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get into the chat with Holly Hughes.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just the apple of everyone in her family's. Of course,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 3>it's the senator at the bloke who I'm sure has

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>stirred up plenty of trouble at a Raleigh Abash, none

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<v Speaker 3>other than the great James Ashby from one nation. I

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 3>appreciate it that, certainly the tectonic plates are the political

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>tectonic plates of our family.

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<v Speaker 2>We just avoid, all right, we just avoid.

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>We'd avoid anyone's last name, even starting with Tea.

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, do we just get around it? And we

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>moved through and were focused on how are your kids anyway?

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, Holly Pty one's going hard about who knew what

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<v Speaker 3>and when in and around the caravan and the explosives

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and where it was going and exactly who knew what

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<v Speaker 3>and when.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is part of what the alternative prime minister has

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<v Speaker 2>had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say about when the Prime minister knew, if at all.

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<v Speaker 12>If the Prime Minister of our country is not across

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<v Speaker 12>what was potentially the biggest terrorist attack in our country's

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<v Speaker 12>history essentially until the public found out about it, I

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 12>think that is an absolute abrogation of his responsibility. And

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<v Speaker 12>we do, I think deserve to hear the answers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what is the connection how do you see

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<v Speaker 3>the leap between the News of Wales Police the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what the potential of this was, but do

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<v Speaker 3>you think that the PM should have been looped in

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<v Speaker 3>and if he wasn't, is that not part of the

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<v Speaker 3>problem as to how we even knew about this story

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<v Speaker 3>in the first place. There are some problems with the

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 3>Fed state relationship.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh look, and I.

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<v Speaker 18>Think it's what's really fighting is It shows that there's

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<v Speaker 18>a lack of trust between the New South Wales Police,

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<v Speaker 18>the New South Wales Premier impossibly the Australian Federal Police

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<v Speaker 18>and mister Albinezi in his office and the fact that

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<v Speaker 18>they were trying to.

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<v Speaker 11>Conduct covert operation.

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<v Speaker 18>I got a phone call from a friend though this

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<v Speaker 18>week whose sister lives up in Durall and one of

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<v Speaker 18>those big acreages.

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<v Speaker 11>And he was saying that she told him about.

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<v Speaker 18>The caravan with explosives in it a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 18>and that all of Durall seemed to know that this

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<v Speaker 18>caravan had been dump So it seems like mister Alberezi

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<v Speaker 18>is the only one in a lot of ways that.

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<v Speaker 11>Was out of the loop.

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<v Speaker 18>It's a very serious matter though to think that the

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<v Speaker 18>Prime minis staff, who would need to call a terrorist

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<v Speaker 18>attack if that was to occur, was kept out of

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<v Speaker 18>the loop.

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<v Speaker 11>I think there's a lot of explaining to do.

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<v Speaker 18>And why did Chris Means think that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 18>should not have been told about these? And I think

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 18>there could be some really interesting background to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, James, my suggestion was that again my

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>guess just we're going off some body language here, Okay,

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>in science, it's all got and we know I've got

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 3>plenty of that, which is remember when the Prime Minister

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 3>turned up after the childcare fire, and he did so

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<v Speaker 3>before nine o'clock was really early, and generally speaking, again

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<v Speaker 3>the timeframe of these things, the event takes place in

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<v Speaker 3>the mornings, the emergency response, a couple of hours, someone

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 3>says something, probably in the afternoon, someone's visiting. When you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it before nine o'clock, obviously you want to get

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>on telling all the rest of it here, But that

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<v Speaker 3>to me, when you line up all the dates here

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<v Speaker 3>is a couple of days after the discovery, So potentially

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 3>there is some level of information that goes it's happened, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what's your sense about what we need to know

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 3>do you think this is a thing that goes all

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<v Speaker 3>week or does the Prime Minister kind of wave his

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<v Speaker 3>hands and say, you know on board on c matters

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<v Speaker 3>will not be discussed.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, firstly, I don't believe the Prime Minister was kept

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<v Speaker 5>in the dark over this matter. I think that being

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<v Speaker 5>the leader of a nation where the government have set

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<v Speaker 5>the terrorism level at probable, which means Australia is likely

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<v Speaker 5>to face a chance of a terrorism attack over the

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<v Speaker 5>next twelve months, it's a greater chance than fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 5>This is one that's been foiled in this instance. But

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<v Speaker 5>the Prime Minister would have been brought up to speed

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<v Speaker 5>as soon as this was first discovered. So I don't

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<v Speaker 5>believe for a second that the Prime Minister was unaware,

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<v Speaker 5>let alone half of that front cabinet of this Labor Party. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 5>I think national security is the responsibility of every Australian

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<v Speaker 5>and particularly when we do have that probable level. And

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<v Speaker 5>I put it this way, so if we had a

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<v Speaker 5>high fire threat around our community and we knew that

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<v Speaker 5>there was a firebug on the loose, you would expect

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<v Speaker 5>that the police and Fire Department and the media would

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<v Speaker 5>let the public know to keep an eye out for

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 5>somebody that's running around lighting fires. In this instance, we

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<v Speaker 5>should be letting as many people within the public know

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 5>of exactly what's happening. We know that our state and

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<v Speaker 5>federal police are underresourced. We know that asier I've only

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 5>got two thousand officers in this country.

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<v Speaker 6>They're trying to build their numbers.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 5>But when they're so underresourced already, and they've got so

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 5>many other distractions out there, domestic violence and other issues

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 5>that they've got to contend with, we should be bringing

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 5>not just our Prime Minister and our opposition and all

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 5>parliamentarians up to speed on what's going on with any

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 5>terrorism threat, but I think also to the public deserve

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 5>to know exactly what is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the bushfire analogy really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>The Transport minister in New South Wales now some of

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<v Speaker 3>my mates are involved in this, but it's not going

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 3>to save the Transport minister from the chat she's about

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 3>the cop, which is she decides to go Hunter Valley,

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 3>get on the Cans Australia day right, fine her business,

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 3>but taxpayer driver up, taxpayer driver back, which means seven

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty dollars. Now, obviously disgraceful, no question whatsoever.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to come at it this way with you, Hollie,

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 3>which is she has only been a minister for what

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 3>was it, March last year. This is not a person

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 3>who's been a minister for fifteen years. Okay, it's still

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>relatively new. The fresh smell in the car. Why would

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 3>you do something that stupid? Why would you not know

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 3>that it is so obviously not your entitlement that you're

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>going to get caught.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think it's extraordinary. This isn't her first slipper.

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 18>You know, Joe Halen was Anthony Albanesi's deputy chief of staff,

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 18>so perhaps she learned the love of.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 11>A freebie in a giveaway.

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 18>But you know, she got in trouble when she first

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 18>got elected because she'd employed someone as a d loo

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 18>which is supposed to be a non political role in

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 18>her office, who'd run a state campaign in Balmain, who

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 18>was a labor operative that got in trouble for doing

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 18>party political work in her ministerial office.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 11>This is the woman who.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 18>Merely ground Sydney to a halt over New Year, leading

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 18>to a potential cancelation of fireworks because of credibility to

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 18>handle the train union and the pay dispute there.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 11>This woman is an embarrassment to Chris Min's and.

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 18>You know, whether this is three strikes, you're out, it

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 18>shows an incredible lack of self awareness. I mean, it's

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 18>something to be said for some of these labor ministers

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 18>that when they get into the treasury benches that snout

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 18>goes in the trough and it doesn't come up for

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 18>air terribly often. This is an appalling lack of judgment

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 18>in a cost of living crisis, to think that they

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 18>could be chauffeur driven around wineries in the Hunter Valley

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 18>from her holiday house. Well, so many Australians are trying

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 18>to put groceries on the table and keep the lights on.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 18>It's just, I mean, it's a bad call. It's an

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 18>admission she was wrong when she said that she'll pay

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 18>the money back. And I know Rose Jackson's are made

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 18>of this show, but you know she was in that

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 18>car and she would have known it was a government

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 18>driver as well, and I think there's some responsibility for

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 18>her to take as well she is.

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>And hence I'm not going to jump in front of

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 3>the bullet on the obvious here, but yeah, it is ridiculous.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 2>It truly is. James.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 3>You get a response to a second speaking of keeping

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the lights on. We do that by paying the bills.

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 3>It ain't taxpayer, Telly. So thank you for watching more

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment here on Paul Marriey Live, including bold

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 3>predictions for the week you had one.

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<v Speaker 2>A second, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us continue the conversation.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 3>I told you I was going to meet Jobie here

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<v Speaker 3>and with none other than James has to be in

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<v Speaker 3>Holly Hughes See, Wendy, you know you don't see you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sunrise come back like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need this show hat.

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<v Speaker 3>You just see what's doing all right, We're just hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out to Sunday night. So James ashby Holly Hughesy here, James,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about nature positive. You were the

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<v Speaker 3>first to beld a cat loudly on the show. Not

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<v Speaker 3>because the Nats and all the resk, but you were

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<v Speaker 3>the first right and explaining the problem. Now, the government

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<v Speaker 3>who did the report, introduced the legislation and had a

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<v Speaker 3>deal to pass the legislation have now gone, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no path to pass this legislation. Instead, let's hide it

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<v Speaker 3>from the Western Australian election. Let's hide it from the

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<v Speaker 3>federal election. Fingers cross, we're all back with increased majorities,

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<v Speaker 3>will shove it through then explain nature positive to people.

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<v Speaker 5>James, Look, this is the last bit of legislation anyone

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<v Speaker 5>within this country would want to see pass in our

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<v Speaker 5>federal parliament. Look, at the end of the day, they

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to lock up thirty percent of our land, thirty

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<v Speaker 5>percent of our oceans. That just impacts on more than just.

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<v Speaker 6>The mining sector.

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<v Speaker 5>I know so many of the miners, the big miners

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<v Speaker 5>have said this is to be detrimental. But there's also

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<v Speaker 5>an increased layer of the Cultural Heritage Act which goes

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<v Speaker 5>in over the top right across the whole country. And

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<v Speaker 5>we saw how terrible that was for Western Australia. They

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<v Speaker 5>got rid of it very quickly, but all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden tenure plebi sect thinks this is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>Look by taking this off the table, put short, this

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<v Speaker 5>just avoids a political stout in the final two weeks

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<v Speaker 5>of the parliament before we go to the Poles. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the same reason why Labor have announced only on Friday

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<v Speaker 5>late in the day that they're going to do a

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<v Speaker 5>review into puberty blockers for those people under the age

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<v Speaker 5>of eighteen. They want to remove any blisters or any

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<v Speaker 5>potential saws that might pop on them in this final

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks. So rest assured these things will come back

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<v Speaker 5>up again in a further term of parliament if the

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<v Speaker 5>Albanezi government are given a second term. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>warn everybody out there, if you love the outdoors, if

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<v Speaker 5>you love being able to access the majority of this country,

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<v Speaker 5>do not vote for the Labor government, because you will

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<v Speaker 5>get a nature positive plan implemented in the next term

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<v Speaker 5>of government.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Holly, I mean it is outrageous. The

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<v Speaker 3>Prime minister, they do the deal, it's ready to go,

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<v Speaker 3>but he understands the political consequences, yank. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you know the crown is put back upon his

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<v Speaker 3>head in minority or majority as he would see it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not bugger, He'll do it anyway. But okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>they were able to do an entire federal election campaign

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<v Speaker 3>about MIDI scare based off nothing. Surely your side of

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<v Speaker 3>politics is going to say, you know what, it still exists,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go through the list and prosecute it before it

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<v Speaker 3>is even on the table again.

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<v Speaker 18>And you know, nature positive doesn't have a wonderful name

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<v Speaker 18>like it sounds like it's all warm and fuzzy and

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<v Speaker 18>trying to do good things for the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 18>But it really is a dreadful case of legislation and

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<v Speaker 18>it's something that's been driven by the Greens. The volume

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<v Speaker 18>of our forestry industry that they want to lock up,

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<v Speaker 18>would have enormous economic consequences, particularly in Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 11>So they might not want.

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<v Speaker 18>To talk about it in Wa, but I can tell

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<v Speaker 18>you that I don't want to talk about it in

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<v Speaker 18>Tasmania either. I'm a little more skeptical that I think

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<v Speaker 18>they're trying to keep a few things on the back

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<v Speaker 18>burner if they go to minority government that they can

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<v Speaker 18>negotiate with the Greens on. And you know James as well,

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<v Speaker 18>where Senator Hanson has brought up many many.

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<v Speaker 11>Times the need from an inquiry into.

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<v Speaker 18>The use of gender blockers puberty blockers every time the

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<v Speaker 18>young children, Well, Lavy's voted against it, very proudly say

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<v Speaker 18>I voted no.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you're on a team.

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<v Speaker 18>Not everyone on my side did, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 18>is the barnacles that they're trying to get off the

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<v Speaker 18>bottom of the boat, but I think we need to

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<v Speaker 18>be mindful of what they're also trying to keep in

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<v Speaker 18>their back pocket if they need to negotiate with the

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<v Speaker 18>Greens and the Teals.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only got a bumper stick of time from both

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<v Speaker 3>of you. A bold prediction for the weak ahead Senator, Oh.

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<v Speaker 11>Praise babe, gosh, we're back to Canberra. Very nice. I

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<v Speaker 11>mean the willy WON'TI calling the election. I think it's

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<v Speaker 11>going to.

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<v Speaker 18>Be really interesting to see what the behavior of the

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<v Speaker 18>Labor MPs and senators are this week, how arrogant and

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<v Speaker 18>cocky they are, whether they're still maintaining this era of

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<v Speaker 18>invincibility that they've had since they've been elected, because it

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<v Speaker 18>has not been a good summer for them. So I

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<v Speaker 18>don't know if there's any one particular thing this week,

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<v Speaker 18>but it's certainly going to be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 18>their attitudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are clean of the office.

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<v Speaker 3>The closer they are, all right, James, make it really

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<v Speaker 3>fast for me, mate.

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<v Speaker 5>My bold prediction is that the Liberal National Party here

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<v Speaker 5>in Queensland will announce Victoria Park as the venue for

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<v Speaker 5>the twenty thirty two Olympics. They'll announce that sometime around

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<v Speaker 5>the Western Australian election weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>On a bit of cover.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you appreciating, Good on you guys, enjoy your time

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<v Speaker 3>back in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, we'll have plenty of fire off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Between now and next week. See Sunday Night one for

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<v Speaker 3>the hard course. Thanks for watching see tomorrow

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<v Speaker 7>K