Speaker 1: From the Skying Center.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 3: Thank you, gang, Welcome to Sunday Night here on pul
Speaker 3: Murray Live. One for the hard Cause, one where we
Speaker 3: are going to get.
Speaker 2: Right into it Tonight.
Speaker 1: Sunday Nights is where we have a look at the
Speaker 1: state of the race.
Speaker 3: Now obviously the election ain't called, but we have to
Speaker 3: look at what's going around. In a moment or two,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some real insight into who
Speaker 3: is playing the strongest hand when it comes to the
Speaker 3: online world. But tonight, as always, we have Kossa Marris
Speaker 3: will join us from Redbridge.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: The people have got lots of data behind the data
Speaker 3: and the great Michael Kroger also no sook snow lefties.
Speaker 3: So we're just firing up. So thank you so much
Speaker 3: for watching. All right, obviously, let's keep an eye on
Speaker 3: what's happening with our mates in North Queensland, because tropical
Speaker 3: North Queensland is copying a bathering. I told you last
Speaker 3: week about how that region had actually already received on
Speaker 3: one day in some areas, one entire meter of water
Speaker 3: in the past twenty four hours. Let's have a look here.
Speaker 3: The darker it gets, the heavy the rain. Unsurprisingly, Townsville
Speaker 3: a little higher, a little lower. That's where it is
Speaker 3: all whacking away as we speak. That's more than one
Speaker 3: hundred mills in the past sort of nine am to
Speaker 3: nine am. So obviously the numbers for today are going
Speaker 3: to be terrible. Lots of people having to deal with this.
Speaker 3: I've got family in Townsville. You know how often we've
Speaker 3: done shows from there, So strength and love to everyone
Speaker 3: who's dealing with this again.
Speaker 2: Let's hope that everyone's.
Speaker 3: Following the advice of the sees, all the different volunteers,
Speaker 3: Emergency Services Council, all the rest of it. Here in
Speaker 3: a moment or two, we're going to have a chat
Speaker 3: to a reporter who is there, because I want you
Speaker 3: to know what's going on and whom needs to be
Speaker 3: leaving their hosts a house and for those what the
Speaker 3: next of the wall is going to be. But here's
Speaker 3: the latest that we've heard today from the Queensland Police.
Speaker 4: There will be impacts to critical infrastructures such as power,
Speaker 4: water and water treatment. If you are being asked to
Speaker 4: leave your premise in Townsville, please do so because it
Speaker 4: is really dangerous for you, your family and the emergency services
Speaker 4: if we need to come back and rescue you very much.
Speaker 3: So for the people that are doing the hard graft,
Speaker 3: the many thousands of people who have had this experience
Speaker 3: before when it was different water coming from different places,
Speaker 3: but tropical weather. We know this to be part of summer,
Speaker 3: but for it to be a big hit like this,
Speaker 3: I mean a meter's worth of rain in one day,
Speaker 3: that is the expectation of these twenty four hours, on
Speaker 3: top of the ones that had been there prior. This
Speaker 3: is some of their reaction to what they're going through
Speaker 3: right now. Now Again, we know it's a Townsville, a
Speaker 3: little further north, little further south, little touch in and
Speaker 3: around Kansas well, So while the focus might be for
Speaker 3: us in Townsville, I get it. You know, an hour
Speaker 3: ring over in Charters towers, all sorts of stuff is
Speaker 3: happening around this part of our beautiful country, and you
Speaker 3: know how much I love it.
Speaker 5: Two young children, we've got a third on the way,
Speaker 5: and it's just more about protecting the kids.
Speaker 6: So we've decided to take them over to your mother
Speaker 6: in law's house.
Speaker 7: Just a bit disappointing thinking here it was only five
Speaker 7: years ago and here we are again doing it all
Speaker 7: over again exactly max in intermational But I'm just hoping
Speaker 7: for the best guys again.
Speaker 3: Strength and love to everyone again the family that will
Speaker 3: hear this message.
Speaker 2: All the best to you guys for the next little while.
Speaker 2: As world.
Speaker 3: We'll check all in on you again during the day tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Scott on his weather. We'll now explain exactly what is
Speaker 3: going on. Yes, it's summer, Yes there's tropical rain, Yes
Speaker 3: there's wet seasons.
Speaker 2: But why is this so much right now?
Speaker 8: It's a huge amount of rain, three to six months
Speaker 8: worth for this time of year, even for the wet
Speaker 8: tropics of Queensland. In it the wet season. Now the
Speaker 8: forecast from Sunday night into Monday shows the monsoon trough.
Speaker 8: This is that white dash line and the winds coming
Speaker 8: it together. So this is leading it to a very
Speaker 8: slow moving region of persistent heavy rain.
Speaker 3: All right, so hold on tight, we'll give you more information.
Speaker 3: We'll go live to Townsville in a moment or two
Speaker 3: time as well as have we got the state of
Speaker 3: the race. So cute little games being played by the
Speaker 3: man who thinks he can slip through his way to
Speaker 3: another term in parliament. Why because all those tea going
Speaker 3: to be in place, nobody's going to change their mind.
Speaker 3: I'm the one with more people who love me on
Speaker 3: the internet. More on that in the moment now the
Speaker 3: Prime Minister is playing a ridiculous game where a piece
Speaker 3: of legislation which was introduced by his government based off
Speaker 3: a report which was compiled for his government, is trying
Speaker 3: now to pretend that the nature positive mess. That would
Speaker 3: be something like the Heritage Orders in Western Australia, where
Speaker 3: indigenous heritage meant you had to get somebody else to
Speaker 3: double check whether you could do the smallest or the
Speaker 3: biggest thing to the place of which you own. This time,
Speaker 3: rather than indigenous heritage, it would be all around environmental impacts. Well,
Speaker 3: they say that, oh, this piece of legislation is apparently gone,
Speaker 3: but is it. The Premiere of Western Australia has made
Speaker 3: it very clear he does not want this anywhere near
Speaker 3: what looks to be a re elected labor government in
Speaker 3: Western Australia.
Speaker 2: I don't say that because I like it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: My thoughts on Roger Cook, particularly his performance during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: that poor little girl who died in the hospitals. The
Speaker 3: idea that he gets rewarded in any way. Not a fan,
Speaker 3: but it is where it is in the book. He
Speaker 3: seemed to believe that they're going to remain in government,
Speaker 3: but something as bad as the heritage laws which they
Speaker 3: introduced by the way at the State Parliament, that they
Speaker 3: pulled because of its potential effects not just on the
Speaker 3: government but also on the Voice a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: They don't want this thing anywhere near Western Australia. In fact,
Speaker 3: they've referred to the lat sippers that are pushing this thing.
Speaker 3: These are the Greens or the Labour people who should
Speaker 3: be Greens who want a stronger environmental cop Now we've
Speaker 3: seen in places like Queensland the absurdity of things like
Speaker 3: land clearing laws.
Speaker 2: I remember being in.
Speaker 3: Rockhampton for beef work a few years ago and people
Speaker 3: were red hot.
Speaker 2: This is their land. They know how best to take
Speaker 2: care of.
Speaker 3: It because breaking news, breaking news to the sharehouse kids.
Speaker 1: If they ruin their land, they ruin their business.
Speaker 3: So they want to take care of their land by
Speaker 3: maybe clearing a tree here, clearing a tree there, because
Speaker 3: either it's so close to the house that if there's
Speaker 3: a storm it'll crush their house, or they.
Speaker 2: Want to get rid of the crap so they can
Speaker 2: expand a paddock.
Speaker 3: I know, crazy stuff, crazy stuff, but a new Environmental
Speaker 3: Protection Authority which always sounds.
Speaker 2: Lovely and you think about you know, clean air and clean.
Speaker 1: Water, but all of those rules already exist.
Speaker 3: Instead a federal level of bureaucracy that is so red
Speaker 3: hot that even a labor premier themselves say not on
Speaker 3: our watch. Business groups have joined the same call. Over
Speaker 3: the past couple of days. The Business Council of Australia
Speaker 3: has said, shell this thing, get rid of it, don't
Speaker 3: go back, don't touch it. In fact, the boss of
Speaker 3: the BCA, brand Black, I think we've got a photo
Speaker 3: of him here.
Speaker 2: This is what he.
Speaker 3: Said to The Australian this weekend, that they urge the
Speaker 3: government to shelve the legislation after the election, then work
Speaker 3: with all the stakeholders to undertake a holistic reform of
Speaker 3: the Environmental Protection Act in line with the review which
Speaker 3: had been put in place. Now that's relatively soft criticism
Speaker 3: compared to what was happening with the Western Australian premiere.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about this because guess what each way
Speaker 3: albow saying one thing before an election and most likely
Speaker 3: you will get something very different after don't wake up
Speaker 3: and winge, don't tell me in two years. Jeez, I
Speaker 3: wish we knew about We've been banging on about this
Speaker 3: for months, months, and no matter their attempt to change
Speaker 3: the subject. If the Greens are the tale that wags
Speaker 3: the dog due to preferences and the cross bench, this
Speaker 3: comes back.
Speaker 2: In fact, have a.
Speaker 3: Look at this, despite the fact that the spin today
Speaker 3: from Taxpayer Media was that Labor has shelved its contentious
Speaker 3: nature positive laws, suggesting that in any interview with The
Speaker 3: Conversation's Politics podcast, the Prime Minister has conceded he couldn't
Speaker 3: seek to path the success for the reform, so at
Speaker 3: this stage I can say we won't be proceeding with
Speaker 3: it in this term, adding the Government.
Speaker 2: Would continue to discuss the issue during the.
Speaker 3: Next term of parliament. So is everyone paying attention? The
Speaker 3: law is not dead. It isn't really even in deep freeze.
Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is simply removing it from the West
Speaker 3: Australian election right now, removing it from the federal election
Speaker 3: right now, with an absolute plan to reintroduce it with
Speaker 3: what he believes will be more favorable numbers in the Senate,
Speaker 3: or if he's in a minority government, there'll be a
Speaker 3: wilder version of it because potentially Victorian Teals and certainly
Speaker 3: the Greens where they will want it to be even bigger,
Speaker 3: even louder.
Speaker 2: Pay attention.
Speaker 3: How you vote matters, you know that, But where your
Speaker 3: preferences go also matter. If preferences are the same way
Speaker 3: they were back in twenty nineteen, then surprise result may
Speaker 3: be on the carts. If it's bugging them all and
Speaker 3: you want to send the preference out for a long wander,
Speaker 3: then guess what you're most likely going to end up with,
Speaker 3: either the government we currently have or a reduced version
Speaker 3: of it at the next election. We'll talk plenty more
Speaker 3: about this, and others will pretend that they have always
Speaker 3: fought the fight. You know how long we've been talking
Speaker 3: about it. I look forward to talking about it, specifically
Speaker 3: with James Ashby, who was the first to talk about
Speaker 3: it here on Paul Murray Live, many.
Speaker 1: Many, many, many, many many months ago. The first ads
Speaker 1: of the election year are up and running.
Speaker 3: Now. Most of these will end up on the Internet,
Speaker 3: but we show them to you just in case they
Speaker 3: pop up on your television. Here is the first ad
Speaker 3: from the Libs.
Speaker 9: The right decisions aren't always popular, but I'm not interested
Speaker 9: in taking me as you pass because we live in
Speaker 9: the best country in the world and I'm determined to
Speaker 9: get Australia back on track.
Speaker 3: And today the first ads from the Labor Party, and
Speaker 3: they are going full time.
Speaker 10: Every little bit helps. But look who was opposed to
Speaker 10: every single.
Speaker 11: One of them.
Speaker 10: Whichever way you look at it, you'll be worse off
Speaker 10: under done.
Speaker 2: This makes my blood boil.
Speaker 3: And because they're in first, then any attempt to use
Speaker 3: any form of that language will be considered copycat. The
Speaker 3: idea don't vote for the other guy because it's going
Speaker 3: to be worse. Right now, we remember this was a
Speaker 3: failing way of running an election three years ago with
Speaker 3: not easy under alb and easy.
Speaker 1: But things have got worse on his watch.
Speaker 3: Oh well, potentially they're ever so slightly better, mate.
Speaker 2: Look at a scoreboard.
Speaker 3: Okay, twelve interest rate rises on their watch, living standards
Speaker 3: that are back to the nineteen forties nineteen forty nine, specifically,
Speaker 3: the value of the Australian dollar in trouble, three point
Speaker 3: four million people who don't know where their food is
Speaker 3: coming from, each and every week. That's food insecurity, not
Speaker 3: to mention record homelessness. Throw on top of that, how
Speaker 3: expensive the rental market is, how few properties there are
Speaker 3: in the rental market. Yet this government is the one
Speaker 3: who has decided to bring in more than a million
Speaker 3: people to every single one of those lines. What absolute
Speaker 3: garbage for the government to be arguing that despite the
Speaker 3: fact that their promise was and.
Speaker 1: I love have it, no one's going to have a
Speaker 1: hold on a littleccount for this I will.
Speaker 3: Their promise was twenty twenty two cost of living lower
Speaker 3: under a labor government. That was their promise, that's before
Speaker 3: they came in.
Speaker 1: Instead, all of it worse.
Speaker 3: Oh but don't get rid of us because the other
Speaker 3: guy will make it even worse. What a bizarre sort
Speaker 3: of Jedi mind trick attempt at trying to gaslight the
Speaker 3: Australian people. The reason I show you those ads is
Speaker 3: because obviously in a couple of minutes we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a chat with the lads to have a.
Speaker 1: Look at the state of the race, the state of
Speaker 1: the ads.
Speaker 3: What message is potentially out there to move the people
Speaker 3: that are kind of soft, the undecideds, which depending on
Speaker 3: a poll could be five percent, or it could be
Speaker 3: thirty percent.
Speaker 2: All of that up for grabs.
Speaker 3: But the reality is that Australia as a federal government,
Speaker 3: despite the fact that it is taking on more revenue
Speaker 3: than it's ever taken on before.
Speaker 2: Number one source of that revenue.
Speaker 3: You You the person who is the payers.
Speaker 2: You go taxpayer.
Speaker 3: They pay collectively more than the entirety of company tax,
Speaker 3: the multiples of the entirety of the amount of money
Speaker 3: out of the GST. And as a result of decisions
Speaker 3: that have been made by this government, they have locked
Speaker 3: in a deal where they will be spending more than
Speaker 3: the money that they will.
Speaker 2: Be taking in. And it's not me making it up.
Speaker 3: It's their own document, its generational Report released a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago by the Treasurer. I think that was
Speaker 3: the same budget where they took fifteen hundred dollars as
Speaker 3: the load of middle income tax offset of ten million voters.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, cost living, total focus.
Speaker 3: That's the one where budget deficits from now for the
Speaker 3: next forty years.
Speaker 1: Say look the next forty years. That is the expectation.
Speaker 3: Oh it, it's ever so slightly better, and then it
Speaker 3: gets really bad. You know, the deal here right, there's
Speaker 3: only so many times you can put money into the
Speaker 3: never never. Well, this is the never never, kids, and
Speaker 3: this is the stuff that's just in the budget, little one,
Speaker 3: the tens of billion dollars that's being invested off budget.
Speaker 3: So there is pressure on the opposition not just to
Speaker 3: make the most of this politically, and they are generally
Speaker 3: hovering around the right spot, which is they need to
Speaker 3: rain in how much money is being spent by the
Speaker 3: federal government. Now, of course this will be instantly interpreted
Speaker 3: in the way the Labor Party always does, which is, look,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a dollar now, but I
Speaker 3: promise to give you ten in five years time. And
Speaker 3: then the loops come in and say, okay, you can
Speaker 3: keep your dollar, but we're not going to give you
Speaker 3: ten in five years time. Cut nine dollar cut is
Speaker 3: on its way to money you've never got.
Speaker 1: It's just a made up promise from apology into the neven.
Speaker 12: Ever.
Speaker 3: Well, Peter Dutton, talking about spending, did so today again
Speaker 3: on taxpayer.
Speaker 12: Telling if we find wasteful spending, our intent is to
Speaker 12: cut it and that will result in obviously an overall
Speaker 12: reduction in government expenditure. And if you're saving twenty four
Speaker 12: billion dollars plus over the forward estimates with.
Speaker 2: The public servants.
Speaker 12: That's money that you can either use to pay off
Speaker 12: debt or you can use to put downward pressure on inflation.
Speaker 2: Now that's it those of us that would like this
Speaker 2: fight to be as close as possible.
Speaker 3: Coming down to the last counting on the night in
Speaker 3: Western Australia to decide exactly what type of government we're
Speaker 3: going to get. Is it going to be Team Read
Speaker 3: with a majority, Team Read with a minority, Team Blue
Speaker 3: with a minority, Team Blue with a majority. There are
Speaker 3: predictions out there for all of those options. The bookies
Speaker 3: think that that will end up going a Team Blue's way.
Speaker 3: But they decided to not name a huge amount of
Speaker 3: specifics about the areas that they are going to pull
Speaker 3: back on. Why because they want will avoid this cut
Speaker 3: cut cut cut cut staff that the Labor Party is
Speaker 3: expecting to launch as its attack on the alternative Prime minister.
Speaker 2: The problem is when you say this.
Speaker 12: We need to sit down and look through an erc process,
Speaker 12: which would.
Speaker 2: Be the normal course of things.
Speaker 1: Will do that in government.
Speaker 3: Everything will be interpreted by the Labor Party as being
Speaker 3: on the table. Remember the nonsense they did with medi scare.
Speaker 3: The entire actual factual basis of medi scare was that
Speaker 3: an option had been written down on paper by the
Speaker 3: bureaucrats about some back office staff and efficiencies that's privatizing.
Speaker 2: They had a whole election campaign about it.
Speaker 3: Imagine what they might be able to do with a
Speaker 3: verbal blank check that's being suggested there. Now, I know
Speaker 3: that Peter Dutton, when laser like and when on message,
Speaker 3: he wins.
Speaker 2: Why did you see what happened with the voice.
Speaker 3: Australians believe always that when their personal circumstances are as
Speaker 3: difficult as they are right now, that the government should
Speaker 3: be feeling the same sort of difficult financial circumstances that
Speaker 3: they are. So there is absolute strong area here and
Speaker 3: just sit in amper gymper price. It is her job,
Speaker 3: of course, to be across all of this and to
Speaker 3: start serving up some examples. Serve up some examples. Do
Speaker 3: one a week, do three a week, But just keep
Speaker 3: pounding away, because if you have lots and lots of
Speaker 3: those little examples, well it's going to help narrow the picture.
Speaker 3: And that, of course is what we will be discussing
Speaker 3: a little later tonight. Lots of data details and all
Speaker 3: the rest of it will be following. But let's get two.
Speaker 3: What is happening right now in North Queensland. And Lauren
Speaker 3: Forbes joins us now from mighty Townsville, which is yet
Speaker 3: again copying it, this time with almost a meter.
Speaker 2: Worth of rain.
Speaker 3: She is safely away from it right now, but looking
Speaker 3: like she's in one of the main drags there right now, Lauren,
Speaker 3: give us an idea of how the town's holding up
Speaker 3: and what may be happening tonight.
Speaker 13: Well, Paul, roads have turned into rivers and floodwaters have
Speaker 13: swallowed streets, cutting off entire communities at some points today
Speaker 13: now here in Townsville, it seems like waters have begun
Speaker 13: receding this afternoon, but it's giving a sense of false relief.
Speaker 13: The danger still remains. There's more relentless rain on the
Speaker 13: way in the coming days, and we could see rain
Speaker 13: totals of up to a meter all the way until Wednesday. Now,
Speaker 13: that's why at least six areas, six local communities in
Speaker 13: low lying areas here in Townsville have been put under
Speaker 13: an evacuation order that's in place as of midday. Now
Speaker 13: we'll get those areas up on the screen. It includes Cludon,
Speaker 13: Hermit Park, Idailya and Nunabar Railway Estate and ross Lee.
Speaker 13: Now as we go to Air Paul, I just received
Speaker 13: a text message from the emergency management team that's been
Speaker 13: run out of the city Council says that we shouldn't
Speaker 13: return to the area, which suggests that some people may
Speaker 13: be considering that as they see these waters slowly received
Speaker 13: but it is low tide typically at nighttime here in
Speaker 13: North Queensland. Now police have spent the couple few days
Speaker 13: door knocking the area warning residents of these potentially life
Speaker 13: threatening floods. Now up to one thousand and seven hundred
Speaker 13: homes could potentially be inundated and go under these waters.
Speaker 13: Now further north here from Townhill in Ingham, that's where
Speaker 13: tragedy really unfolded this morning an Sees vessel it went
Speaker 13: under with us. At least six passengers on board. Five
Speaker 13: were located safe, but tragically a woman has died. Now
Speaker 13: Premier David chris of fully has expressed his deepest condolences
Speaker 13: and obviously they're that tight community. That tight community is
Speaker 13: also raveling from this tragedy.
Speaker 14: There has been the loss of life in floodwaters in
Speaker 14: Ingham and that's a really tight knit community and our
Speaker 14: thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Speaker 13: Now, as you mentioned before, Paul, some areas have copped
Speaker 13: up to eight hundred millimeters of rain, that is nearly
Speaker 13: a meter of rain. Now it's not just impacting the
Speaker 13: floodwaters here at supermarkets across towns Will Supermarket at the
Speaker 13: shelves in supermarkets are empty. More than eight thousand propies
Speaker 13: are also impacted. They're left without power and as well
Speaker 13: as Townsville Airport it's been closed down earlier today around midday.
Speaker 13: Now that's stopping inbound and outbound flights today and tomorrow. Now,
Speaker 13: Flood Assistance has assistance money has also been activated. That's
Speaker 13: one hundred and eighty dollars for people who've had to
Speaker 13: flee due to these evacuation orders, as well as nine
Speaker 13: hundred dollars for families of five or more.
Speaker 15: We are already rolling out assistant to people affected by
Speaker 15: these natural disasters, and if and when more assistance is necessary,
Speaker 15: we will be there for you as well.
Speaker 13: But Paul, obviously, right now survival is the priority. Rivers
Speaker 13: are still rising and there is more relentless rain in
Speaker 13: this area. On the cards. Authorities are advising locals to
Speaker 13: please seek higher ground while they still can.
Speaker 1: Good on you, Lauren, thank you so much. It's been
Speaker 1: a long day.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that you can get the
Speaker 3: bed recharge, be there for Pete in the morning and
Speaker 3: give the latest infato everyone in that part of the
Speaker 3: world enjoy, well, not enjoy, but to make the most
Speaker 3: of the time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lauren, appreciate it. If my Townsville memory is correct.
Speaker 3: She's not too far right now from Cowboys Leagues Club.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into the conversation right now with
Speaker 3: Coas Samaras, who is joining us as part of this
Speaker 3: conversation each and every week about the state of the race.
Speaker 2: He is, of course from the red Bridge Group.
Speaker 3: Their work is phenomenal, honestly, like they put out a
Speaker 3: pole every few months, so detailed, right, and like he's
Speaker 3: a proper data guy, like I'm the amateur data guy
Speaker 3: Okay's and the information they have spectacular. Him and Simon,
Speaker 3: great team with everyone else there. And Michael Kroger, well
Speaker 3: he knows the data like at the.
Speaker 2: Back of his hand.
Speaker 1: He's been through many many an election and he joins
Speaker 1: us from.
Speaker 3: Melbourne as well, So too many let us start with
Speaker 3: where I have already brought the audience, and that is
Speaker 3: about the advertising. The very first ads. Now this is
Speaker 3: not the definitive ad. There will be multiple versions, the
Speaker 3: all Good Book of Music, the Black and White, the cut,
Speaker 3: cut cut, all of that that's coming its way. Okay,
Speaker 3: But as first and opening salvos here, Michael, don't the
Speaker 3: lips have to hit harder? Or is the assumption that
Speaker 3: that argument's been made already to the people who are
Speaker 3: off the government. So we're now trying to get into
Speaker 3: specifically demo thirty five to fifty five year old women,
Speaker 3: who of course help impart prop up the teals.
Speaker 16: So the liberal add is a traditional positioning.
Speaker 6: Out of its leader. They're not well being addeds.
Speaker 16: They reinforce pre existing impressions, which is what advertising does.
Speaker 16: You can't start an election campaign with something which no
Speaker 16: one believes, right, You've got three or four years to
Speaker 16: position your party, which is what Dutton's done, and an
Speaker 16: advertising campaign during election will reinforce a pre existing impression. Now,
Speaker 16: the terrible thing about that labor ad I think it's
Speaker 16: a chakra. And I'll tell you why thirty percent of
Speaker 16: the country think we're going in the right direction. Sixty
Speaker 16: percent overwhelmingly Australians think Australia is going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 16: You look at that labor ad there saying you know,
Speaker 16: Dutton's voted all against all these things. What you're saying
Speaker 16: to people is, we know you think things are shocking already,
Speaker 16: but they're going to be worse under Dutton.
Speaker 6: Shock.
Speaker 2: He's going to bring the fuel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the he's on fire, He'll bring the fuel.
Speaker 16: People look at that out and go, you've got to
Speaker 16: be kidding him, mate, You've done a shocking job. Don't
Speaker 16: sit there and tell me that this bloke's going to
Speaker 16: be worse. What are you going to do to fix
Speaker 16: the mess you've got us in?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 16: That's why that ad won't work. It's a wrong negative
Speaker 16: aut at this time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a giggle because they've decided to sort of add
Speaker 3: in the bit of the AI shading, making it look
Speaker 3: like some sort of prison I don't know what they're
Speaker 3: they're trying to sigilimly hit. But let's not play that one.
Speaker 3: So because obviously, you know, I'm an opinion guy. Mine's
Speaker 3: fairly obvious here. But let's look at the labor side
Speaker 3: of things, right, I mean, every focus group every piece
Speaker 3: of information. There was a poll last year that what's
Speaker 3: seventy something percent of people they could name a single
Speaker 3: thing that financially benefited them under this government. So what
Speaker 3: is Labor playing on about? Look, we know it's garbage,
Speaker 3: but it'll be worse under the other. Don't they blame
Speaker 3: them for what it's currently like.
Speaker 17: Look, having tested a lot of these sort of ads
Speaker 17: over many years in the research capacity, one thing I
Speaker 17: can say is that ad looks like it's actually focused
Speaker 17: on their base. So if you think about what's going
Speaker 17: on right now, there are dozens of seats in play,
Speaker 17: but they're ever so tight.
Speaker 1: Everything is within the margin of.
Speaker 17: Error and driving that real volatility within within Labour's electorates
Speaker 17: is Labour's own base. So based on our research, for example,
Speaker 17: up to fifty five percent of its boat is soft wow.
Speaker 17: So that is actually pitched to the diehards. It's not
Speaker 17: pitched to the people that they want to secure in
Speaker 17: Northern Queensland or in other electorates which they don't currently occupied.
Speaker 17: This is purely a defensive advertisement and so if you
Speaker 17: were to ask me, does it work beyond that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 17: Upfacet to these sort of ads before that don't work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would suggest the same about the narrative.
Speaker 3: You know, look, surprise and price they're going to put
Speaker 3: together that I'm a good blowadd let's get to let's
Speaker 3: can we get ahead of the inevitable media conversation around
Speaker 3: a rate cut? Now I get it rate cut better
Speaker 3: than rate increase. But when the financial pressure has been
Speaker 3: thirteen interest rate riser since May twenty two, dare I
Speaker 3: say the metaphorical sort of pressure is so tight that
Speaker 3: that you know, thirty percent of the country trying to
Speaker 3: pay off a house is right being a purple right now?
Speaker 3: I don't know they're going to be dancing because the
Speaker 3: pressure of thirteen becomes the pressure of twelve. Cause is
Speaker 3: there a free piece of advice you'd like to give
Speaker 3: to those that will say all.
Speaker 1: Over cost of living's done?
Speaker 3: Let's change the subject back to the ones that we
Speaker 3: know are going to help the mob that we love.
Speaker 17: Strong bit of advice I've given the labor side is
Speaker 17: if a rad cut does occur, language should be we
Speaker 17: know Australians have actually been suffering. This rate cut is
Speaker 17: a result of all they're hard work. Because when we
Speaker 17: speaks about this and we did so last week and
Speaker 17: particularly in Western Sydney, we asked them, what do you
Speaker 17: think about conversation right now in the media around inflation
Speaker 17: coming down and a possibility of a rate cup. Do
Speaker 17: you think that's a good news for the Ambanizi government.
Speaker 17: Their response, which was uniform, No, we've paid for this. Yes,
Speaker 17: our own misery right, and so my strong advice to
Speaker 17: them will be not our plan is working. Know you've
Speaker 17: actually been through tough times. We're going to stand next
Speaker 17: to you. We have a long journey ahead of a
Speaker 17: stick with us.
Speaker 3: That will be my advice to And then conversely, Michael
Speaker 3: the Liberal Party pushing back on all of that, You
Speaker 3: know that many people sitting around in the room they're
Speaker 3: going to want to interpret this as mission accomplished. In fact,
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe one of the TV networks actually did
Speaker 3: mission accomplished late last year when the headline number was
Speaker 3: sort of getting near it.
Speaker 2: Please we all know.
Speaker 3: And this is the fundamental disconnect between say the end
Speaker 3: part of the Biden Harris campaign, which is you can
Speaker 3: tell people the latest stat says this. They they've felt reality,
Speaker 3: which is not made up, it's their live reality. Helps
Speaker 3: say okay, you're full of it. If you keep saying
Speaker 3: it to you, I'm going to stop listening. If there
Speaker 3: is a rate cut, how do the Libs play a
Speaker 3: rate cut?
Speaker 16: M Yeah, mission accompliss sounds of it like George w doesn't.
Speaker 1: It it does?
Speaker 6: You were correct?
Speaker 16: So mate, people are not mugs, all right, And as
Speaker 16: Richo says, the mob will always work you out. The
Speaker 16: Australian public believes that this crisis that we're in at
Speaker 16: the minute is principally because of the Alberanzi government, and
Speaker 16: the reason they feel so they're so hard on the
Speaker 16: Albenzi government is that in the lead up to the
Speaker 16: twenty two election, he said it's all Morrison's fault, we
Speaker 16: can fix it, and there's two hundred and seventy five dollars,
Speaker 16: et cetera, et cetera. Right, So part of their problem
Speaker 16: is they went too hard, right they said what Menji said?
Speaker 16: Menji said, never never promised beyond your capacity to deliver.
Speaker 16: This mob went so hard against Scott Morrison and Josh Friedenberg.
Speaker 16: So hard were that two hundred and seventy five dollars,
Speaker 16: which they repeated one hundreds of times. As we know
Speaker 16: and we've seen add fornidem they led people to believe
Speaker 16: this is a crisis credded by Scott Morrison. So people
Speaker 16: come into the current environment thinking themselves, we were conned
Speaker 16: at the last election. That's the biggest problem Labour's got right.
Speaker 16: People feel they were conned by Albanezi and Bowen and
Speaker 16: Charmers and the rest of them. That's one of the
Speaker 16: reasons they're so angry at Labor over what is happening now,
Speaker 16: and which is why a rate cut will marginally help labor.
Speaker 16: Of course, because of some people will believe that we're
Speaker 16: on the way to utopia. But for the vast majority
Speaker 16: of Australians, they've got a predetermined view about Albo and
Speaker 16: that is that album misled them with the last election.
Speaker 2: Of course, how many people do think like that? In
Speaker 2: your focus scripts, yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say the word.
Speaker 17: I wouldn't say they feel calmed. I would say that
Speaker 17: they feel let down, right, and so what they wanted
Speaker 17: from this federal government was a stronger response during twenty
Speaker 17: twenty three as those interest.
Speaker 2: Rates were piling in on them.
Speaker 17: That's where Albanesi and his government got into a lot
Speaker 17: of hot water. So they basically accrue during that referendum
Speaker 17: view a lot of empathy deficit, so a lot of
Speaker 17: Austrangers feel like they didn't care because I'll preoccupy with
Speaker 17: other things other than the crisis that everyone was experiencing
Speaker 17: their own home. So that's what's really going on. I mean,
Speaker 17: at the beginning of the winning of the term, they
Speaker 17: were doing pretty well. Polls were great, they won the
Speaker 17: aston by election, you know, unheard of in terms of
Speaker 17: a result, so they kind of like they was willing
Speaker 17: to give this guy a bit of a go. So
Speaker 17: you know, that empathy difference is yet to be fixed.
Speaker 17: Hence my previous comment, which is they've got to use
Speaker 17: language that is sympathetic to what Australians have experienced.
Speaker 3: I haven't put this on the agenda, but I know
Speaker 3: you both can take this one on the flight, which
Speaker 3: is okay. So at this moment in time, we've seen
Speaker 3: a little idea of some of the strategy here, right,
Speaker 3: which is the Dunton's trying to keep it to big
Speaker 3: themes basically, you know, trying to bond across the waters
Speaker 3: with the general mainstream Australia.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Albo is trying to do the same, but also has
Speaker 3: literally made promiseses tens of billions of dollars in the
Speaker 3: month of January, and basically it's been that traditional ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen welcome here to this line, the event here
Speaker 3: and now are the government here by announces a million
Speaker 3: dollars for this. It doesn't play outside of frankly, the
Speaker 3: people in the room, probably not even at times some
Speaker 3: of the locals.
Speaker 2: That it's targeted at.
Speaker 3: So because as somebody trying to come back from that
Speaker 3: empathy deficit, if the largest thing you're going to do
Speaker 3: each and every day seems to be the same kind
Speaker 3: of localized money money, money promises, even if it's you know,
Speaker 3: they turn around to one thousand dollars for everyone.
Speaker 2: Is there a point in a government's life.
Speaker 3: And we're sure, I'll take the money, but I don't
Speaker 3: care any more power and just buying it's not going
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 17: We have a preview Queensland State election. Correct, So the
Speaker 17: Queensland State government they basically fry money or or around
Speaker 17: the place, trying and basically givince people to actually care
Speaker 17: about it costly in crisis. It didn't work. It may
Speaker 17: have helped them in a couple of seats, but it
Speaker 17: didn't help the overall movement against them. The problem that
Speaker 17: I think right now the government got is that it's
Speaker 17: unlikely they're going to be able to hold onto their majority.
Speaker 17: They are now playing a game of trying to keep
Speaker 17: enough sets on this side allegic to for minority government.
Speaker 17: Dunton still has a mountain of climb to get to
Speaker 17: seventy six is an enormous mountain to overcome at the
Speaker 17: moment I see the numbers therefore, and they actually get
Speaker 17: into seventy six, So we're going to be in for
Speaker 17: a long ride here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly again Western Australia.
Speaker 3: You know, plenty of chat about what's going to happen there,
Speaker 3: and that means long night for everyone and all their
Speaker 3: TV counting and all the rest of it. Great for
Speaker 3: everyone watching because I know how much you want to
Speaker 3: see what's going to happen here. But Michael, we've talked
Speaker 3: before about the mountain, about how high the climb is,
Speaker 3: all the rest of it. Right, But if we're in
Speaker 3: a scenario and a few people talk to me about
Speaker 3: this over the weekend, now again we're in the world
Speaker 3: of hypothesis. But welcome to the joy of a talk
Speaker 3: t V show. If we all knew, we'd all have
Speaker 3: entered lotto last week. But let's imagine if they both
Speaker 3: land very close to seventy right, one up, one down,
Speaker 3: but basically banging there. If you have a look at
Speaker 3: the potential cross bench, it's center left, not center right,
Speaker 3: and we.
Speaker 2: Can say, oh, well the teal's formally but they've just
Speaker 2: been re elected, right Wilkie.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, there's a sharky who always turns around
Speaker 3: and says, whoever has the most seats gets the first call.
Speaker 2: We know Kada would be theoretically of that space.
Speaker 3: But if it's basically dead even at the end, doesn't
Speaker 3: Albo start in front because of the likely lefty lean
Speaker 3: of the cross bench where a re elected Victorian teal,
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine them taking greater pleasure than an up
Speaker 3: yours to the bloke from Queensland.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 16: By the way Couse uses the word let down, I
Speaker 16: use the word conned. I think it leads to the
Speaker 16: same conclusion, which is people are very disappointed in the government.
Speaker 16: Leads to the same conclusion. So mate, that's fantasy. Let
Speaker 16: me just put this in context. The betting markets have
Speaker 16: Albanezi a six percent chance of winning government in.
Speaker 6: His own right six six. So Albo says, I'm going
Speaker 6: to win governor in my own right.
Speaker 16: No, there's zero chance, Albow, of you winning in your
Speaker 16: own right, mate, zero. So it's not going to be
Speaker 16: seventy each. I think Dutton's on seventy two and I
Speaker 16: think Albo's probably on sixty seven.
Speaker 6: At the minute.
Speaker 16: There's thirteen seats that I've got en doubt in New
Speaker 16: South Wales in Victoria, and these are seats of four, five, six,
Speaker 16: seven percent. And as you know, the labor voter who's
Speaker 16: collapsed in Victoria princely because of the appalling state Labor government,
Speaker 16: secondly because of the appalling performance of Elbow. So Dutton
Speaker 16: is going to start ahead of Albow. And the question
Speaker 16: is can he get from seventy two to seventy six
Speaker 16: With the expected cross bench he can get to seventy
Speaker 16: six and become Prime minister. But I think there's also
Speaker 16: a very good chance now that that Dutton can win
Speaker 16: his own right. So I think things seem to be
Speaker 16: going south continually for Albou. We're now February, right, I
Speaker 16: mean Albou has been bashing Peter Dutton and the Coalition
Speaker 16: for six months.
Speaker 6: They're spitting their wheels.
Speaker 16: You know, they're in one of those cycling classes in
Speaker 16: the gym. They're going hard mate, but the bike ain't
Speaker 16: going anywhere except backwards.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 16: The antisemitism in this country is causing them huge damage.
Speaker 16: You know, I've got a lot of friends in the
Speaker 16: Indian community in Australia here in Victoria.
Speaker 6: They hate this stuff. They hate this stuff.
Speaker 16: All the migrant communities have come to this country think
Speaker 16: it can be the Jews one day and us the
Speaker 16: next day. They are appalled by what's happening. That's why
Speaker 16: there's a shy Dutton voter effect in this country. It's
Speaker 16: not directed against men's in New South Wales, who's done
Speaker 16: an excellent job, I might add. And when Chris Minn
Speaker 16: speaks Paul, you know he believes what he's saying. When
Speaker 16: Albo speaks about anti Semitism, no one believes a word.
Speaker 16: This bloke says he never been to a bar Mits
Speaker 16: Fro until two weeks ago. He hasn't been to israelph
Speaker 16: for twenty five years. He sends Penny Wong to Auschwitzman.
Speaker 16: Everything this guy does, you know, he wouldn't call it
Speaker 16: James Patterson and Sarah Henderson. Let's have an Let's have
Speaker 16: a judicial inquiry. The two lib will send it us
Speaker 16: to Victoria. So let's have a judicial inquiry to anti
Speaker 16: Semitis on campus. Who could disagree with that except elbow
Speaker 16: Albert said, no, no, we're not having an inquiry to
Speaker 16: Andy seven on campus. If anything tells you this guy's
Speaker 16: not sympathetic the Jewish community. That does, and this plays
Speaker 16: out through the whole migrant communities in this country. That's
Speaker 16: why there's a shy Dutton voter effect that that polsters
Speaker 16: cannot pick.
Speaker 3: Up my prediction. They'll announce some sort of an inquiry,
Speaker 3: but it'll take probably about four weeks to pick the
Speaker 3: people who will be on it, which would mean after
Speaker 3: the election. Lads, let's talk again next week. Thank you
Speaker 3: for your insights, so we'll have even more to say
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thanks.
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Speaker 3: Forgive me for being personal, but you know, I try
Speaker 3: to be the most honest person on telling. By that,
Speaker 3: I mean I'll tell you what's actually going on in
Speaker 3: my life. I'll tell you what's going on off the screen.
Speaker 3: I don't you know, ring the new paper or alerts
Speaker 3: new idea. I tell you because you watched the show.
Speaker 3: I had an amazing day today with the Murray half
Speaker 3: of our family and it was awesome to see everyone.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the shout out that will
Speaker 3: take about four and a half hours, but it was
Speaker 3: amazing to see, you know, my little girl playing with
Speaker 3: my cousins that.
Speaker 2: It was really cool. The point is this family is awesome.
Speaker 2: Family is all that matters. So whatever issues.
Speaker 3: There may be in your family, and every family has issues,
Speaker 3: including ours, right resolve it, get past it, say sorry,
Speaker 3: even if you don't remember what you say sorry for,
Speaker 3: and just enjoy being around each other because it is
Speaker 3: honestly all that matters.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: And you know, sadly Gran's no longer here to be
Speaker 3: part of it, but in her.
Speaker 2: Spirit, we were together. It was awesome to see everyone today.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into the chat with Holly Hughes.
Speaker 3: Is just the apple of everyone in her family's. Of course,
Speaker 3: it's the senator at the bloke who I'm sure has
Speaker 3: stirred up plenty of trouble at a Raleigh Abash, none
Speaker 3: other than the great James Ashby from one nation. I
Speaker 3: appreciate it that, certainly the tectonic plates are the political
Speaker 3: tectonic plates of our family.
Speaker 2: We just avoid, all right, we just avoid.
Speaker 3: We'd avoid anyone's last name, even starting with Tea.
Speaker 2: All right, do we just get around it? And we
Speaker 2: moved through and were focused on how are your kids anyway?
Speaker 3: Now, Holly Pty one's going hard about who knew what
Speaker 3: and when in and around the caravan and the explosives
Speaker 3: and where it was going and exactly who knew what
Speaker 3: and when.
Speaker 2: Here is part of what the alternative prime minister has
Speaker 2: had to.
Speaker 3: Say about when the Prime minister knew, if at all.
Speaker 12: If the Prime Minister of our country is not across
Speaker 12: what was potentially the biggest terrorist attack in our country's
Speaker 12: history essentially until the public found out about it, I
Speaker 12: think that is an absolute abrogation of his responsibility. And
Speaker 12: we do, I think deserve to hear the answers.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what is the connection how do you see
Speaker 3: the leap between the News of Wales Police the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: We know what the potential of this was, but do
Speaker 3: you think that the PM should have been looped in
Speaker 3: and if he wasn't, is that not part of the
Speaker 3: problem as to how we even knew about this story
Speaker 3: in the first place. There are some problems with the
Speaker 3: Fed state relationship.
Speaker 11: Oh look, and I.
Speaker 18: Think it's what's really fighting is It shows that there's
Speaker 18: a lack of trust between the New South Wales Police,
Speaker 18: the New South Wales Premier impossibly the Australian Federal Police
Speaker 18: and mister Albinezi in his office and the fact that
Speaker 18: they were trying to.
Speaker 11: Conduct covert operation.
Speaker 18: I got a phone call from a friend though this
Speaker 18: week whose sister lives up in Durall and one of
Speaker 18: those big acreages.
Speaker 11: And he was saying that she told him about.
Speaker 18: The caravan with explosives in it a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 18: and that all of Durall seemed to know that this
Speaker 18: caravan had been dump So it seems like mister Alberezi
Speaker 18: is the only one in a lot of ways that.
Speaker 11: Was out of the loop.
Speaker 18: It's a very serious matter though to think that the
Speaker 18: Prime minis staff, who would need to call a terrorist
Speaker 18: attack if that was to occur, was kept out of
Speaker 18: the loop.
Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of explaining to do.
Speaker 18: And why did Chris Means think that the Prime Minister
Speaker 18: should not have been told about these? And I think
Speaker 18: there could be some really interesting background to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, James, my suggestion was that again my
Speaker 3: guess just we're going off some body language here, Okay,
Speaker 3: in science, it's all got and we know I've got
Speaker 3: plenty of that, which is remember when the Prime Minister
Speaker 3: turned up after the childcare fire, and he did so
Speaker 3: before nine o'clock was really early, and generally speaking, again
Speaker 3: the timeframe of these things, the event takes place in
Speaker 3: the mornings, the emergency response, a couple of hours, someone
Speaker 3: says something, probably in the afternoon, someone's visiting. When you're
Speaker 3: doing it before nine o'clock, obviously you want to get
Speaker 3: on telling all the rest of it here, But that
Speaker 3: to me, when you line up all the dates here
Speaker 3: is a couple of days after the discovery, So potentially
Speaker 3: there is some level of information that goes it's happened, right,
Speaker 3: So what's your sense about what we need to know
Speaker 3: do you think this is a thing that goes all
Speaker 3: week or does the Prime Minister kind of wave his
Speaker 3: hands and say, you know on board on c matters
Speaker 3: will not be discussed.
Speaker 5: Well, firstly, I don't believe the Prime Minister was kept
Speaker 5: in the dark over this matter. I think that being
Speaker 5: the leader of a nation where the government have set
Speaker 5: the terrorism level at probable, which means Australia is likely
Speaker 5: to face a chance of a terrorism attack over the
Speaker 5: next twelve months, it's a greater chance than fifty percent.
Speaker 5: This is one that's been foiled in this instance. But
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister would have been brought up to speed
Speaker 5: as soon as this was first discovered. So I don't
Speaker 5: believe for a second that the Prime Minister was unaware,
Speaker 5: let alone half of that front cabinet of this Labor Party. Secondly,
Speaker 5: I think national security is the responsibility of every Australian
Speaker 5: and particularly when we do have that probable level. And
Speaker 5: I put it this way, so if we had a
Speaker 5: high fire threat around our community and we knew that
Speaker 5: there was a firebug on the loose, you would expect
Speaker 5: that the police and Fire Department and the media would
Speaker 5: let the public know to keep an eye out for
Speaker 5: somebody that's running around lighting fires. In this instance, we
Speaker 5: should be letting as many people within the public know
Speaker 5: of exactly what's happening. We know that our state and
Speaker 5: federal police are underresourced. We know that asier I've only
Speaker 5: got two thousand officers in this country.
Speaker 6: They're trying to build their numbers.
Speaker 5: But when they're so underresourced already, and they've got so
Speaker 5: many other distractions out there, domestic violence and other issues
Speaker 5: that they've got to contend with, we should be bringing
Speaker 5: not just our Prime Minister and our opposition and all
Speaker 5: parliamentarians up to speed on what's going on with any
Speaker 5: terrorism threat, but I think also to the public deserve
Speaker 5: to know exactly what is happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the bushfire analogy really interesting.
Speaker 3: The Transport minister in New South Wales now some of
Speaker 3: my mates are involved in this, but it's not going
Speaker 3: to save the Transport minister from the chat she's about
Speaker 3: the cop, which is she decides to go Hunter Valley,
Speaker 3: get on the Cans Australia day right, fine her business,
Speaker 3: but taxpayer driver up, taxpayer driver back, which means seven
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. Now, obviously disgraceful, no question whatsoever.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to come at it this way with you, Hollie,
Speaker 3: which is she has only been a minister for what
Speaker 3: was it, March last year. This is not a person
Speaker 3: who's been a minister for fifteen years. Okay, it's still
Speaker 3: relatively new. The fresh smell in the car. Why would
Speaker 3: you do something that stupid? Why would you not know
Speaker 3: that it is so obviously not your entitlement that you're
Speaker 3: going to get caught.
Speaker 11: Well, I think it's extraordinary. This isn't her first slipper.
Speaker 18: You know, Joe Halen was Anthony Albanesi's deputy chief of staff,
Speaker 18: so perhaps she learned the love of.
Speaker 11: A freebie in a giveaway.
Speaker 18: But you know, she got in trouble when she first
Speaker 18: got elected because she'd employed someone as a d loo
Speaker 18: which is supposed to be a non political role in
Speaker 18: her office, who'd run a state campaign in Balmain, who
Speaker 18: was a labor operative that got in trouble for doing
Speaker 18: party political work in her ministerial office.
Speaker 11: This is the woman who.
Speaker 18: Merely ground Sydney to a halt over New Year, leading
Speaker 18: to a potential cancelation of fireworks because of credibility to
Speaker 18: handle the train union and the pay dispute there.
Speaker 11: This woman is an embarrassment to Chris Min's and.
Speaker 18: You know, whether this is three strikes, you're out, it
Speaker 18: shows an incredible lack of self awareness. I mean, it's
Speaker 18: something to be said for some of these labor ministers
Speaker 18: that when they get into the treasury benches that snout
Speaker 18: goes in the trough and it doesn't come up for
Speaker 18: air terribly often. This is an appalling lack of judgment
Speaker 18: in a cost of living crisis, to think that they
Speaker 18: could be chauffeur driven around wineries in the Hunter Valley
Speaker 18: from her holiday house. Well, so many Australians are trying
Speaker 18: to put groceries on the table and keep the lights on.
Speaker 18: It's just, I mean, it's a bad call. It's an
Speaker 18: admission she was wrong when she said that she'll pay
Speaker 18: the money back. And I know Rose Jackson's are made
Speaker 18: of this show, but you know she was in that
Speaker 18: car and she would have known it was a government
Speaker 18: driver as well, and I think there's some responsibility for
Speaker 18: her to take as well she is.
Speaker 3: And hence I'm not going to jump in front of
Speaker 3: the bullet on the obvious here, but yeah, it is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It truly is. James.
Speaker 3: You get a response to a second speaking of keeping
Speaker 3: the lights on. We do that by paying the bills.
Speaker 3: It ain't taxpayer, Telly. So thank you for watching more
Speaker 3: in a moment here on Paul Marriey Live, including bold
Speaker 3: predictions for the week you had one.
Speaker 2: A second, hey, you.
Speaker 1: Let us continue the conversation.
Speaker 3: I told you I was going to meet Jobie here
Speaker 3: and with none other than James has to be in
Speaker 3: Holly Hughes See, Wendy, you know you don't see you know,
Speaker 3: sunrise come back like that.
Speaker 2: Don't need this show hat.
Speaker 3: You just see what's doing all right, We're just hanging
Speaker 3: out to Sunday night. So James ashby Holly Hughesy here, James,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about nature positive. You were the
Speaker 3: first to beld a cat loudly on the show. Not
Speaker 3: because the Nats and all the resk, but you were
Speaker 3: the first right and explaining the problem. Now, the government
Speaker 3: who did the report, introduced the legislation and had a
Speaker 3: deal to pass the legislation have now gone, oh, there's
Speaker 3: no path to pass this legislation. Instead, let's hide it
Speaker 3: from the Western Australian election. Let's hide it from the
Speaker 3: federal election. Fingers cross, we're all back with increased majorities,
Speaker 3: will shove it through then explain nature positive to people.
Speaker 5: James, Look, this is the last bit of legislation anyone
Speaker 5: within this country would want to see pass in our
Speaker 5: federal parliament. Look, at the end of the day, they
Speaker 5: wanted to lock up thirty percent of our land, thirty
Speaker 5: percent of our oceans. That just impacts on more than just.
Speaker 6: The mining sector.
Speaker 5: I know so many of the miners, the big miners
Speaker 5: have said this is to be detrimental. But there's also
Speaker 5: an increased layer of the Cultural Heritage Act which goes
Speaker 5: in over the top right across the whole country. And
Speaker 5: we saw how terrible that was for Western Australia. They
Speaker 5: got rid of it very quickly, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: a sudden tenure plebi sect thinks this is a good idea.
Speaker 5: Look by taking this off the table, put short, this
Speaker 5: just avoids a political stout in the final two weeks
Speaker 5: of the parliament before we go to the Poles. It's
Speaker 5: the same reason why Labor have announced only on Friday
Speaker 5: late in the day that they're going to do a
Speaker 5: review into puberty blockers for those people under the age
Speaker 5: of eighteen. They want to remove any blisters or any
Speaker 5: potential saws that might pop on them in this final
Speaker 5: two weeks. So rest assured these things will come back
Speaker 5: up again in a further term of parliament if the
Speaker 5: Albanezi government are given a second term. So I just
Speaker 5: warn everybody out there, if you love the outdoors, if
Speaker 5: you love being able to access the majority of this country,
Speaker 5: do not vote for the Labor government, because you will
Speaker 5: get a nature positive plan implemented in the next term
Speaker 5: of government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Holly, I mean it is outrageous. The
Speaker 3: Prime minister, they do the deal, it's ready to go,
Speaker 3: but he understands the political consequences, yank. And then you know,
Speaker 3: when you know the crown is put back upon his
Speaker 3: head in minority or majority as he would see it.
Speaker 3: They're not bugger, He'll do it anyway. But okay, if
Speaker 3: they were able to do an entire federal election campaign
Speaker 3: about MIDI scare based off nothing. Surely your side of
Speaker 3: politics is going to say, you know what, it still exists,
Speaker 3: let's go through the list and prosecute it before it
Speaker 3: is even on the table again.
Speaker 18: And you know, nature positive doesn't have a wonderful name
Speaker 18: like it sounds like it's all warm and fuzzy and
Speaker 18: trying to do good things for the rest of us.
Speaker 18: But it really is a dreadful case of legislation and
Speaker 18: it's something that's been driven by the Greens. The volume
Speaker 18: of our forestry industry that they want to lock up,
Speaker 18: would have enormous economic consequences, particularly in Tasmania.
Speaker 11: So they might not want.
Speaker 18: To talk about it in Wa, but I can tell
Speaker 18: you that I don't want to talk about it in
Speaker 18: Tasmania either. I'm a little more skeptical that I think
Speaker 18: they're trying to keep a few things on the back
Speaker 18: burner if they go to minority government that they can
Speaker 18: negotiate with the Greens on. And you know James as well,
Speaker 18: where Senator Hanson has brought up many many.
Speaker 11: Times the need from an inquiry into.
Speaker 18: The use of gender blockers puberty blockers every time the
Speaker 18: young children, Well, Lavy's voted against it, very proudly say
Speaker 18: I voted no.
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're on a team.
Speaker 18: Not everyone on my side did, but you know, it
Speaker 18: is the barnacles that they're trying to get off the
Speaker 18: bottom of the boat, but I think we need to
Speaker 18: be mindful of what they're also trying to keep in
Speaker 18: their back pocket if they need to negotiate with the
Speaker 18: Greens and the Teals.
Speaker 3: I've only got a bumper stick of time from both
Speaker 3: of you. A bold prediction for the weak ahead Senator, Oh.
Speaker 11: Praise babe, gosh, we're back to Canberra. Very nice. I
Speaker 11: mean the willy WON'TI calling the election. I think it's
Speaker 11: going to.
Speaker 18: Be really interesting to see what the behavior of the
Speaker 18: Labor MPs and senators are this week, how arrogant and
Speaker 18: cocky they are, whether they're still maintaining this era of
Speaker 18: invincibility that they've had since they've been elected, because it
Speaker 18: has not been a good summer for them. So I
Speaker 18: don't know if there's any one particular thing this week,
Speaker 18: but it's certainly going to be interesting to see what
Speaker 18: their attitudes.
Speaker 1: Are clean of the office.
Speaker 3: The closer they are, all right, James, make it really
Speaker 3: fast for me, mate.
Speaker 5: My bold prediction is that the Liberal National Party here
Speaker 5: in Queensland will announce Victoria Park as the venue for
Speaker 5: the twenty thirty two Olympics. They'll announce that sometime around
Speaker 5: the Western Australian election weekend.
Speaker 2: On a bit of cover.
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciating, Good on you guys, enjoy your time
Speaker 3: back in Canberra.
Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll have plenty of fire off of that.
Speaker 3: Between now and next week. See Sunday Night one for
Speaker 3: the hard course. Thanks for watching see tomorrow
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