1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the land of the Gadigel 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: people of the Eur Nation. Hello and welcome to the 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Real Story with Joe hildebrownd absolutely massive news week. We 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: are going to get to the bottom of the social 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: media ban, the campaign to abolish net zero, the campaign 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: to abolish welcome to country. We're going to fix all 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: of those problems, and then, if there's time, we're also 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: going to solve the war between Israel and Gaza. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it first. 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Up this week, I want to just touch on a 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: little story that emerged over the weekend about how the 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Western Australian Liberal Party has decided that the key to 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: the Libs salvation is to abolish welcomes to country and 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: abolish net zero as a target for reducing carbon emissions. 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Let's do the welcome to country thing first. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Now, I think it's pretty obvious that there are just 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: a few too many welcomes to country, a few too 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: many acknowledgments of country, and that they probably don't do 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: much to address actual indigenous disadvantage. But does that mean 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: we should abolish them? Does that mean we should declare 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: war on them? And does that mean that mainstream Australians 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: actually care what a mainstream political party's stance on welcomes 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: to country or acknowledgments of country actually are. The short 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: answer is no. And this is what the Liberal Party 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: is getting so so wrong. It gets obsessed by these 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: culture wars that it's conservative base is really really energized about, 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: and the welcome to country for some reason, they make 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: them really mad, They make them angry, they upset them, 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: and they think that they are the voice of the 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: silent majority, that they are the voice of a seething 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: and yet uncannily quiet mainstream suburban Australia. And the truth 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: is just not now. I think everyone thinks they're probably 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: a bit tedious and tokenistic. You probably don't need an 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: acknowledgment of country every time your plane lands. You probably 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: don't need. As I heard during the Voice campaign, which 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I campaigned for. I was on the side of the Voice, 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: But you know, walking in a shopping center and hearing 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: a recorded acknowledgment of country on repeat, I'm not sure 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: that's really actually paying respect to anyone. 40 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: If you're going to really pay respect, don't have it recorded. 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Have one of those guys. 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Who wears a hat, who stands out front of the 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, the two dollar shop or the fruit and 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: veg greengrocer, and say, get your beautiful plums, get your 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: beautiful plums. Dollar a quilla, get your beautiful plums. And 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: we'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land, 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: like at least do it live if you want to 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: pay your respects, don't just put it on a tape 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: like an answering machine. 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Anyway. 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: But just because people think, oh it's a bit much 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: or it's a bit teas doesn't mean they hate it. 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: And it certainly doesn't mean there's any votes in campaigning 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: against us. And how do we know this, Well, we 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: know because in the last week of the campaign, when 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of actual neo Nazis interrupted the Anzac Day 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: dawn service. 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: To boo the welcome to country. 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: And you know what the coalition did, with just a 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: few days to go before the federal election, they thought, 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: you know what, let's jump on this. 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: This could be the thing that turns it around for us. 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: And there was a whole flurry of commentary and op 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: eds and everything saying, you know what, you know, don't 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: agree with these neo Nazis interrupting the dawn service. But 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: you got to admit they had a point, you know, 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: maybe we should get rid of Welcome to Country. 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: And did it swing the result? Yeah, I reckon it. 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Did I reckon it swung it even further against the coalition. 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: It swung it even further than it was already going. 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: And there's a reason, just a little cherry on top, 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: as to why the Albanese Labor government is currently sitting 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: on a record ninety four seats in the House of Representatives. 74 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: But of course the Libs the Coalition got suckered into 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: thinking that because they had run a campaign against the 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Voice and ran it very, very effectively, and they think, well. 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: This is you know, this is a result. 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, the sixty to forty result against the Voice 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: proves that people hate woke stuff and they hate you know, 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: any sort of you know, racial or indigenous acknowledgment that 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: separates them from the rest of Australia, and Welcome to 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Country is just another example of that. And so we 83 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: can tap into that massive mainstream sixty percent who hate 84 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: that stuff and who you know. 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Think it should be abolished. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: But again that's not quite right either, because the reason 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the Voice went down and this came up again and 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: again and again, you could see it in the way 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: that it played out in the different electorates. It wasn't 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: that people hated Indigenous acknowledgment or Indigenous recognition. It was 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: that they hated the fact that people were talking about 92 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: this stuff at a time when they were going through 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: a cost of living crisis and they were being faced 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: with higher interest rates, hi prices at the checkout, higher 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: prices at the bowser, and you've got all these inner 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: city numpty's these I'm sorry to say it, but yes, 97 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: inner city elites lecturing ordinary working class and middle class 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Australians saying oh, you should do this, and you have 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: to care about this, and you have to vote yes 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: otherwise you're a racist or you don't know what you're 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: talking about. And they just went, you know what, f 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: you just no, I'm just not thinking about it. I 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm confused. You're not explaining anything, you're lecturing me. 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: And this is not a first order issue for me. 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: So the most important thing today is this is not 106 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: the lightning rod that those on the right think it is. 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: This is just a second order issue that people don't 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: want to think about, don't want to make a decision 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: on as long as they've got more important pressing things 110 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: in their lives. So you're arguing about something that is 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: essentially an abstract concept at a time when people are 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: dealing with hard and fast physical material problems. And of 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: course the other one thing that the Libs want to 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: abolish is net zero and this comes as a UN 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: special Climate GURO, their executive director of Climate change, has 116 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: come to Australia this week and he is a lecturing 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: us on not doing enough to get to net zero. 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: So you've got the Libs who are saying, no, we 119 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: need to abolish net zero, the Nats saying we need 120 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: to abolish net zero already. The wa Libs are doing it. 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: There's a big push to make the whole federal Liberal 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: party do it. The Nats are almost certainly going to 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: do it if they haven't already by the time you've 124 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: heard this, And then you've got the UN coming on 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the other side and saying, oh no, no, no, actually 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the government should be going even harder. And this guy, 127 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: real chucklehead, Simon Steel comes in and he says, if 128 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you don't go harder on climate change, fruit and veg 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: will be once in a year purchase. You'll only be 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: able to afford or find fruit and vege to buy 131 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: once a year. 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just bonker stuff. 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: That is right up there with Tim Flannery saying it's 134 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: never going to rain again. And that is the exact 135 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: sort of thing that skeptics about climate change, of which 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm not one, but they just say, well, that's a 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: ridiculous statement, that's stupid. Sound as stupid as gretathlen Berg, 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: sound as crazy as you know. Tim Flannery is saying 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: it's never going to rain again, and then it rains, 140 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and so you're wrong about that, so you must be 141 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: wrong about everything else. And that's what happens when these 142 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: people want to make a kind of headline grabbing impact, 143 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a headline grabbing statement. 144 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: They want to show how much they. 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Care, how dare I say it virtuous they are, and 146 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: instead of serving any actual positive impact for the cause 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: that they are telling people they care so much about, 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: it actually takes it in the other direction, because again 149 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: it makes people think that the whole thing is crazy. 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: If this person is getting up and saying crazy the 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: extreme stuff, then people just look at it and say, well, 152 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: obviously what they're talking about is equally crazy and extreme. 153 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: It's a lot like the pro Palestine protesters who, in 154 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: a week where there is probably more sympathy for the 155 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Palestinian cause, more sympathy for the situation in Gaza than 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: ever before since October seven, twenty twenty three, these numpties 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: want to jump on that and disrupt everyone's lives in Sydney, 158 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Australia's biggest city, by marching on the Harbor Bridge. Oh guys, 159 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: everyone's feeling sorry for the Ghazans. You know, the tide 160 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: of global public opinion is turning. You know, nations all 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: around the world are condemning Israel's for its act. 162 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: What are we going to do. Let's piss everybody off. 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Let's piss everybody off by having a protest so we 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: can jump up and down and say how much we 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: care about it while they're stuck on either side of 166 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Australia's most iconic landmark and the most important piece of 167 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: infrastructure in Australia's biggest city, so that everyone will look 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: at us instead of the starving children in Gaza and 169 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: see how angry we are about stuff. So again, same 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: as what you have with people virtue signaling about climate change, 171 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: or again Greta Unberg. 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: Amazing. 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: She just manages to combine the two almost seamlessly. Look 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: at me, Look at how angry I am. Don't actually 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: look at the cause, don't actually think about ways to 176 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: solve it and how you get there. And this is 177 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: the thing. Our you n friend Simon Steele comes in 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: here says, you should go harder, you should go harder 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: on that zero. Oh thanks mate, Why didn't we think 180 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: of that? Thanks buddy, Because at the moment, we've got 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: farmers blowing up over wind farms and transmission lines and 182 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: trying to get them booted off the land. They're the 183 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: ones that we're actually building, the ones that are already there. 184 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: At the same time, we've got foreign companies pulling their 185 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: funding for the offshore wind farms that we're trying to 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: build off the coast of Victoria. And we've got foreign 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: companies that are pulling the money out because they don't 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: think it's clearly economically viable. And then of course we've 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: got green hydrogen, which we've plowed, you know, tens of 190 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: millions of dollars, billions of dollars into and it's just 191 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: not working. It's not getting economically viable. So you know what, Simon, 192 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: we can try and mate, we're doing our best. But 193 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: we didn't think of what you thought of, which is 194 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: you coming over here and saying, hey, do more, do more. 195 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is Australia under the Albanese government, 196 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Chris Bowen is going hammer and tongs to try to 197 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: roll out as much green energy as he possibly can. 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: And even that is already should we said, annoying a 199 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: huge amount of people. It's hitting huge numbers of roadblocks, 200 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: whether it's angry locals in the regions, whether it's foreign 201 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: companies pulling funding because they've decided it's not a worthwhile 202 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: investment anymore, or whether it's simply the science and the 203 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: economics not actually getting to where they need to be 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: for a green fuel source like green hydrogen to be 205 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: economic viable. But they're throwing absolutely everything at it, and 206 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: then someone from the UN reckons the clue is just 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: to come here and just talk about it more, just 208 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: to say, oh, go hurder, do more. 209 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, that's a big help. I wish we thought 210 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: of that. 211 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Wish we thought it just going harder and telling people 212 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: that they're only going to be able to buy fruit 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: and vege once a year. Why don't we go and 214 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: tell that to the farmers who are already worried about 215 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: how much fruit and vege they're going to produce with 216 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: the actual climate mitigation stuff on their land. They think 217 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: it's the wind turbines that might be causing. 218 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: A bit of a fruit and vege shortage. I wouldn't know. 219 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a farm up. Maybe Simon could go and 220 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: explain that to them. Then meanwhile, you've got the Libs 221 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: and the Coalition saying, oh, I know the answer, hold 222 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: my beer, let's just abandon net zero all together. Well, 223 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: guess what, We're not going to get there anyway. So 224 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. There's not going to be a net zero, 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: whether it's a target or not, because despite all the 226 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: government's best efforts, all the projections are, we're just not 227 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: going to reach it. So it doesn't matter if you're 228 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: the hectoring Karen from the UN saying, oh. 229 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: You've got to go hard, to go hard, to go harder. 230 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: When we're going as hard and as fast as we 231 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: possibly can, or whether the Coalition saying, oh we should 232 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: just you know, we should not stop going to venet zero. 233 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: The point is it whether you just say this dumb 234 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: stuff at one end saying go more, or say this 235 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: dumb stuff at the other end saying oh, let's just 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: give up altogether. The point is what you actually do, 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: what you are actually doing on the ground, and what 238 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: you are actually able to do with all the resources 239 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: that you have. But there's a whole bunch of people 240 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: who would rather shoot their mouth off and just keep 241 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: talking rather than picking up a shovel and just quickly 242 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: on the other massive story of the week, it's obviously 243 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: the federal government bringing YouTube into its social media band. Now, 244 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I thought that this would be an absolutely terrible idea, 245 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: and then they've rolled it out and I thought, you 246 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: know what, that's actually a brilliant idea. And you know why, 247 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: because kids need YouTube, or right that, let's put it 248 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: another way, parents need YouTube. It's stupid. There's a lot 249 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: of dumb stuff on there. I don't know why watching 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: other people play video games or rank their favorite Star 251 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: Wars movies is a worthwhile use of my time. But 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: according to my kids, it's the best thing ever. And 253 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: that's great, and it's harmless and it's fun and it 254 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: lets me do what I want and do my work. 255 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: When I can't be bothered parenting, and the new laws 256 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: aren't actually going to affect that, and that is the 257 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: beauty of it. What you don't want in social media 258 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: is the social part. The media part is not the problem. 259 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: It's the social part because that exposes kids to basically 260 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: anyone in the world. The worst actor is the most 261 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: nefarious people, or just other kids who can be cruel 262 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: and mean and nasty and drive people into the ground 263 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: they're different, or if they express anything that the kids think, 264 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: they can exploit any kind of weakness. We all know 265 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: that happens. 266 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: It's called bullying. 267 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: And it used to at least be confined to the 268 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: playground or the school yard of the classroom, and now 269 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: we know it's twenty four to seven. It can happen 270 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: in your bedroom when you buy yourself and all you 271 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: have is a device. And so what the government's done 272 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: has not actually banned kids from YouTube. It's just banned 273 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: them from having YouTube accounts. So it just means they 274 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: can't interact. It means that they can't post content that 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: might come back to haunt them. It means that they 276 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: can't come and engage with other people who might seek 277 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: to cause them harm. Either deliberately or inadvertently. But they 278 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: can still watch you know, Dan TDM or whatever it 279 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: is the kids are doing these days. They can still 280 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: rank their favorite Star Wars movies as much as they want. 281 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: They just can't be bullied or abused or harassed or 282 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: shit canned for doing it. 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: And I reckon that's a pretty good thing. 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: And that is all we have time for this week, 285 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: which is pretty good thing because we've solved just about 286 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: every single problem in Australia and the rest of the world. 287 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: You're welcome if you would like to send us a 288 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: message to ask us any questions, you can email The 289 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Real Story at Nova podcast dot com dot au or 290 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: jump onto the gram. 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