Speaker 1: Get the way morning every day.
Speaker 2: Our next guest started playing the piano age just six,
Speaker 2: and her first folk rock band was called The Waifs.
Speaker 2: Young girls everywhere discovered themselves to the tune of Scar
Speaker 2: and Where I Stood, and she inspired a million copycat
Speaker 2: pixie cuts. She's about to be inducted into the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four ARIA Hall of Fame. Please welcome to Joni
Speaker 2: and Hazy Melissa Morrison Higgins.
Speaker 3: Mister Higgins, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: The big news for you is the Aria Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame in twenty twenty four. How incredible. What does that
Speaker 2: mean to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is incredible. I'm a bit in shock, to
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I'm just honored, just so incredibly honored that,
Speaker 5: you know, my body of work has been recognized in
Speaker 5: this way, and I'm honored that my criteria meets that
Speaker 5: of somebody that's worthy of being inducted into the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame. I mean, I'm an incredible company when I
Speaker 5: see all the other people who've been inducted over the years.
Speaker 6: He's a fun fact for you. Might not know you
Speaker 6: were the first artist played on Nov. Nine or nine
Speaker 6: when we launched twenty years ago. Have listened this is
Speaker 6: you playing SCA live in our studios?
Speaker 7: And doesn't that sound familarion? Doesn't that need to close time?
Speaker 4: Doesn't that make a shiver the way things caught a gone?
Speaker 5: Doesn't I feel peculiar?
Speaker 8: Everyone wants to lead more so that I too, when
Speaker 8: them to never go that?
Speaker 9: Fine?
Speaker 5: Could you leave me with the scar?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool? So the very first person you played
Speaker 4: on the radio station, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm believing.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that. Speaking of that song, I've
Speaker 2: read like a lot of stuff on the internet about
Speaker 2: people trying to get to the bottom of what that
Speaker 2: song is about, Like people are almost obsessed. Is there
Speaker 2: a simple explanation for it? And people just overthinking it? Oh?
Speaker 4: I wrote it out to co writers that I worked
Speaker 4: with in America because with my first album, the record
Speaker 4: American record company wanted to set me up with a
Speaker 4: heap of songwriters. Yeah, and I'd never done that before.
Speaker 4: So I went over there and it was a really
Speaker 4: crappy experience because with the guy, you know, he was
Speaker 4: really trying to turn me into this teen pop idol
Speaker 4: kind of singer, and I wasn't you know, he was
Speaker 4: trying to change my songs. He was trying to change
Speaker 4: my lyrics. And then the women did the same thing.
Speaker 4: She kind of it was just a bit. It was
Speaker 4: just a bit yucky working with them, and I didn't
Speaker 4: feel like it was we were making true art, and
Speaker 4: it felt like we were just trying to make stuff
Speaker 4: to sell rather than good, good quality music. And I
Speaker 4: wanted to write that song to kind of remember, try
Speaker 4: and remind myself in the future to trust myself and
Speaker 4: sort of trust to trust my own abilities.
Speaker 2: I was saying to you, of father. I listened to
Speaker 2: your podcast and on The Imperfects, which is a brilliant podcast,
Speaker 2: and you spoke a little bit about your time in
Speaker 2: the US and periods I guess a little bouts of
Speaker 2: depression that you've had and some anxiety. And where are
Speaker 2: you at now in your career. Are you in a
Speaker 2: content place?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 4: I think I went through a real phase in my
Speaker 4: twenties where I was a bit disillusioned with the whole industry.
Speaker 4: And I think it was in particular because i'd just
Speaker 4: i'd gone over to America and I was signed to
Speaker 4: this major label, and they were just they were working
Speaker 4: me to the bone, and they were so obsessed with
Speaker 4: selling unit getting me on the chart, which is fine
Speaker 4: in and of itself, but there was so much focus
Speaker 4: on that there wasn't any They didn't look out for
Speaker 4: my well being, and they didn't really listen to me
Speaker 4: when I was saying that I was getting burnt out
Speaker 4: and needed a break, and I don't know, it was just,
Speaker 4: it was just I'd become a bit of a cog
Speaker 4: in the machine, and so I took a massive break
Speaker 4: from music and it took me a long time to
Speaker 4: come back. But when I came back, I came back
Speaker 4: on my own terms, and I came back with a
Speaker 4: very strong and clear idea of what my priorities were.
Speaker 4: And my priority was number one, to make sure that
Speaker 4: I was only doing music for the right reason.
Speaker 2: Don't you feel like that's the absolute beauty of growing
Speaker 2: older as a woman, because you come into your own
Speaker 2: and you start to realize you're worth in whatever industry
Speaker 2: you're in, and you start to develop your own boundaries
Speaker 2: and you start to discover your authentic self. I know
Speaker 2: this is getting quite deep, but that's my favorite part
Speaker 2: about growing older. I don't know if you feel the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, like having more confidence to
Speaker 4: speak up and more of a kind of secure knowledge
Speaker 4: that it's okay to say that you're not happy with something,
Speaker 4: or that it's okay to say no, it's okay to
Speaker 4: disappoint people. Yeah, and also that you're never going to
Speaker 4: be liked by everyone, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: I think you've done a pretty good job of being
Speaker 2: universally liked for both who you are and for your music.
Speaker 2: You are coming to South Australia for a day on
Speaker 2: the Green. It's at Peter Lemon Winesbarossa Valley on Saturday,
Speaker 2: December seven. It's called the Second Act to It celebrates
Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary of your debut album, The Sound of
Speaker 2: Why Me See Here. Bigan's an absolute joy and a
Speaker 2: pleasure to speak to you. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: continuing to bring us beautiful music.
Speaker 4: No worries, thank you, thanks for having me showed. So.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure about you, but growing up as a
Speaker 6: youngster sometimes we were edumicated by films and some of
Speaker 6: the things that we saw on films, and I'm talking
Speaker 6: about sex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of having a chat with the parents. That's
Speaker 2: where you turned to the television.
Speaker 3: But they didn't want to do that. They did not
Speaker 3: want to do that.
Speaker 7: I don't want to have that awkward conversation.
Speaker 2: Do you want to do that?
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that right now.
Speaker 6: I still don't know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2: You've had three kids, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I have about this for A study revealed that viewers
Speaker 3: age ten to twenty four, that's gen Z, prefer less
Speaker 3: sex on screen, oh, with fifty one percent more, with
Speaker 3: fifty one percent wanting more content about platonic relationships and friendships. Additionally,
Speaker 3: forty seven and a half percent believe sex is unnecessary
Speaker 3: in most TV shows and movies. Now, Zoe is gen Z?
Speaker 3: Just what's what's going on? Actually?
Speaker 1: Quite why?
Speaker 7: Less sex?
Speaker 8: But now that you say that, I actually agree with that.
Speaker 2: Well, who are these young people that don't want to
Speaker 2: watch people getting it on on the screen?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just can't you tell about a story without just
Speaker 8: getting your gear off?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: No, because everything in every situation, eventually, particularly from a
Speaker 6: mind's man a man's mindset, is leading to that moment.
Speaker 3: Particularly, Yeah, that's why we do everything.
Speaker 2: That's what's what is that? What it's all about all
Speaker 2: of the time?
Speaker 6: Because I did see a famous commedity and said, let's
Speaker 6: be realistically, for a man, if it wasn't for trying
Speaker 6: to get to that goal, we'd live in a cardboard
Speaker 6: box box.
Speaker 2: When I care, Oh, do you want to say on
Speaker 2: that again?
Speaker 7: Because fuck me dead, I can't.
Speaker 2: Thought we should don't start again, seriously, no, no, not
Speaker 2: starting against.
Speaker 6: I saw a famous comedy once and he said that
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for that the end result, we'd be
Speaker 6: more than content just to live in a cardboard box.
Speaker 2: That's just to be sad.
Speaker 7: Probably that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So if you really analyze us, though, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: What was that really weird series that was on that
Speaker 2: that we were made to watch here at Nova? Can
Speaker 2: you remember? And that I wish there was les less
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 8: Or that, Oh my gosh, when we made you watch
Speaker 8: Saltburn Ye.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 6: Let's go back to nineteen ninety nine and American Pie,
Speaker 6: one of the great movies right in the prime of
Speaker 6: my adolescence, and Jim and Nadia got down and dirty
Speaker 6: and let's just call Nadia a bit of a goddesses,
Speaker 6: and Jim and up and coming young Andrew who he's
Speaker 6: in the prime of his adolescence, who doesn't know what
Speaker 6: he's doing. He's Andrew hasty Jim.
Speaker 10: Oh no, oh no, I'm.
Speaker 6: Not done, Nutty, I have.
Speaker 10: I've got reserves, Nudy, I'm begging you again, not again.
Speaker 2: Man, you're looking blankly.
Speaker 8: You've seen America doesn't.
Speaker 3: Tell you a few life lessons, and I don't know
Speaker 3: what does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, we could probably do with less
Speaker 2: of Jim. Jim's performance was very underwhelming.
Speaker 3: Even more of Jim inspire you.
Speaker 6: What I will say is not much has changed since
Speaker 6: that day. But ladies and gentlemen, three kids.
Speaker 2: I mean that we can see quickly the kids.
Speaker 6: Nonetheless, the extended version was I've got extra, extra, extra.
Speaker 5: Looseless.
Speaker 6: And Joe's as aggressive as this gets. Sometimes it is
Speaker 6: actually helping exercise.
Speaker 2: Has it helped me with my everyday listening? So far?
Speaker 7: Yes? I think it has.
Speaker 6: Okay, put your hand on if you've noticed a significant
Speaker 6: improvement in Jody's listening skills me.
Speaker 7: You put your.
Speaker 2: Because I was listening.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: All right, So what happens is we're gonna put some
Speaker 6: noise canceling headphones on.
Speaker 2: Joe's yep.
Speaker 6: I'm going to give a few sentences, and she has
Speaker 6: to read my lips, like literally read my lips.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: Okay, Joe's you can do this, okay, So first step
Speaker 6: and first sentence. Up goes the elevated music into Jody's headphone.
Speaker 6: She can't hear it. Confirmation jos has done her little
Speaker 6: thing where she enters a different stratosphere. Here we go,
Speaker 6: first sentence. The duck flies at midnight.
Speaker 2: The fox died in a fight.
Speaker 7: Oh that's kind of close. You're ready. We'll go again.
Speaker 7: The duck flies at midnight.
Speaker 2: The hat is wired at midnight.
Speaker 7: One more quick one. The duck flies at midnight.
Speaker 2: The dot flies at midnight.
Speaker 6: You go, all right, noise canceling headphones off. You can
Speaker 6: hear us now, congratulations, you got.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 6: Here we go, noise canceling headphones back on. Do you
Speaker 6: want to build a snowman?
Speaker 2: Did you take your pill this morning?
Speaker 8: Andrew?
Speaker 2: We don't need any more little hazies.
Speaker 3: Stop veering off course.
Speaker 6: Listen to me, all right, I was canceling headphones still on?
Speaker 6: Do you want to build a snowman?
Speaker 2: Do you want to drink milk in or chopper? Oh?
Speaker 7: Thank you very much? Last time? Do you want to
Speaker 7: build a snowman?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sat again again? Set again?
Speaker 7: Do you want to build a snowman?
Speaker 2: Something about? Do you want to top up?
Speaker 7: Cancer? Phones off? Do you want to build a snowman?
Speaker 7: I did take my feel alright? Last one? Noise cancing
Speaker 7: headphones on?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 7: I have a fear of buttons.
Speaker 2: You have bestatus.
Speaker 7: I have a fear of buttons.
Speaker 2: You have a fear of buttons.
Speaker 5: From three?
Speaker 6: God, you know what she's getting ever so close to graduating.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I like to peruse Instagram and it can be productive.
Speaker 2: I e. You can come across the list of the
Speaker 2: top nick names for people at work. Yes, you're welcome,
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 7: I'm sure this will be constructive.
Speaker 2: All right, you ready for these? I'm sure you might
Speaker 2: register in one of them. Okay. Some of the top
Speaker 2: nicknames for the people that you encounter each and every
Speaker 2: day in your workplace. Sense a light? They only work
Speaker 2: if someone walks past.
Speaker 7: Everyone knows.
Speaker 2: Do you know a MasterCard takes credit for other people's work?
Speaker 7: Yes? Yes, absolutely, And a lot of people in this
Speaker 7: team that do that.
Speaker 2: Of them? What about a Shania doesn't impress you much?
Speaker 2: Is a good one? Jetster usually later or doesn't show
Speaker 2: up at all?
Speaker 7: Very good?
Speaker 2: What are Oh? We all know Google's thinks they know everything.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's one of.
Speaker 7: Those, My god, just one in every single workplace.
Speaker 2: Kim Jong only got the job because the dad and
Speaker 2: who doesn't know a boomgate. You can't get past them
Speaker 2: without a chat.
Speaker 6: In the same chat, your brain goes in the space
Speaker 6: where it's the same stuff every time.
Speaker 2: Do you know what floats around and does air fall?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 6: I thought the extension of that as well, but also
Speaker 6: smells like pook.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows a paper straw as well. They work for
Speaker 2: two minutes and then break down.
Speaker 7: For you, it's emotional thing. Oh, here we go for you.
Speaker 2: I've come up with a I've come up with an
Speaker 2: endearing term for my work colleague. I'm going to call
Speaker 2: you squirrel because you've always got your hand.
Speaker 3: On some nuts.
Speaker 6: You actually, it's some that you know about some that
Speaker 6: you don't. We do call you, you know that. We
Speaker 6: call you the chameleon because the eyes dart off in
Speaker 6: different directions. Also, we call you et because you always
Speaker 6: want to go hunt and finally something we call you
Speaker 6: behind your back, and I'm ready to bring it to
Speaker 6: light now, is it? Sometimes we call you four skid
Speaker 6: because you disappear when things get hard.
Speaker 2: I am so curious about something this week, and so
Speaker 2: is producer Zoe. By the way, us girls as a
Speaker 2: whole species as curious about this. I was listening to
Speaker 2: a podcast that I'm a massive fan of called The
Speaker 2: imperfect I would encourage everyone to have a listen to
Speaker 2: it because it makes us better as human beings. Anyway,
Speaker 2: you know The Inspired Unemployed.
Speaker 6: Yes, these two blokes in particular, yeah, Jack and Falcon.
Speaker 6: They might be the most popular blokes in this country
Speaker 6: at the moment.
Speaker 2: Bunch of trades basically who started putting together all these skits.
Speaker 2: They went nuts on Instagram and on TikTok and everything.
Speaker 2: He was on The Imperfects and he was talking about
Speaker 2: his anxiety and he's partying too hard and a whole
Speaker 2: host of things. But one thing that piqued my interest
Speaker 2: at the end of it was he was talking about
Speaker 2: saying I love you to his best mate Falcon. And
Speaker 2: there was this whole discussion around blokes not saying I
Speaker 2: love you to their friends have a listen.
Speaker 9: Because you can say I love you, love your brother
Speaker 9: and see you're on your way. That's not really it's
Speaker 9: not the real thing. That's not the real thing, you know,
Speaker 9: and it is. How hard is it just to tell?
Speaker 9: I mean, if I had a near car crash when
Speaker 9: I left this podcast room, I would tell Falcon dude,
Speaker 9: I'm so lucky to have you, like, thank you so much.
Speaker 9: How easy is that to say that? I just wouldn't
Speaker 9: do it. Most people just avoid that.
Speaker 6: This is a space where men and women are wide
Speaker 6: so different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so differently, so I guess Zoe, from our point
Speaker 2: of view, we will absolutely like I tell them pretty
Speaker 2: much every time I hang up the phone to my
Speaker 2: close friends, say I love you boo or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: It might be. Might sound throw away, but it's not, yeah,
Speaker 2: because the intention I think for women is to tell
Speaker 2: other women you mean the world to me, and I
Speaker 2: do love you absolutely.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: My best friend lives into state and we don't have
Speaker 8: a phone call without saying I love you at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I did the same with my mum, which I'm sure
Speaker 8: is more common in your family. But yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 8: my girlfriends all the time. And my best house mate ed, Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'll tell him that I love him all the time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I think it's important.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go and we do this in check
Speaker 2: chat Andrew the spotlight on. You're always there here if
Speaker 2: you need to hear, if.
Speaker 3: You need well, I'm always on the bench.
Speaker 2: Though in this space we need you. Do you say
Speaker 2: I love you to your closest guy friends?
Speaker 7: I probably no, I don't know. I don't really and
Speaker 7: do you know what?
Speaker 6: And sometimes and I will if someone says it to me,
Speaker 6: But I just I think, is it part of it?
Speaker 7: A fear of rejection?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 7: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're telling this story, is it?
Speaker 6: I think it probably is because we're very proud people
Speaker 6: are men and I sort of and I we'll name
Speaker 6: him right now, bloke called Robie Cornswait. He works at
Speaker 6: seven US Soccer Fans, a home played for Adelaid United
Speaker 6: than Soccer Roos.
Speaker 7: He will quite often say I love you or even
Speaker 7: love you, bro yeah, and then straight away you go,
Speaker 7: that's really nice. It's really nice, and it's a really
Speaker 7: nice thing. But I wouldn't say that to my friends.
Speaker 7: I would volunteer that I wouldn't say it.
Speaker 2: So when he says love you, bro, what do you say?
Speaker 8: It's like, right, absolutely, has it inspired you to ever
Speaker 8: say to him?
Speaker 3: First?
Speaker 7: Do you know what? It probably has?
Speaker 6: Because that's that's a man who's in touch with his
Speaker 6: inner emotions.
Speaker 7: I just got it worked out.
Speaker 2: Shows emotional maturity one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: And that's even I can recognize that that's a man
Speaker 6: who is emotionally immature. But now I'm making a big
Speaker 6: effort with my son, and he's six years old, to really,
Speaker 6: as often as possible, every single night, say I love you, mate,
Speaker 6: I really love you. And because my dad did it
Speaker 6: to me and I didn't realize how much of a
Speaker 6: good effect it would have, and because it was something
Speaker 6: that I was completely used to in my life, you
Speaker 6: don't understand until you hear other stories or other situations,
Speaker 6: just how rare it is for men, even if it's
Speaker 6: a father saying to a son, how rare it.
Speaker 7: Is to say to sit down and genuinely say I
Speaker 7: love you.
Speaker 2: I'm going to put it a high pathetical to you
Speaker 2: in just a moment. But thirteen twenty four ten, if
Speaker 2: you'd like to get involved in the chick chat, that's
Speaker 2: turned into a bloke chat Mark thirteen twenty four ten.
Speaker 2: Do you say I Love you to your male friends?
Speaker 2: Are they blokes out there that are happily going every
Speaker 2: single time you see each other? I love you. I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear from you. Okay, you're standing in front
Speaker 2: of Jason Horn Francis.
Speaker 7: This is where the fear rejection gone, and.
Speaker 2: You're saying goodbye to him. Do you say, JHF, I
Speaker 2: love you, bro?
Speaker 6: I say JHF, I love you. Congratulations on the All
Speaker 6: Australian selection. And you're a future port Adelaike.
Speaker 2: Great? And then do you sprint across Alberton Oval and
Speaker 2: try and get away because you're solf for read he
Speaker 2: won't say that.
Speaker 6: Say Jason give Score thirteen twenty four ten. And this
Speaker 6: is one for the fellas. Do you say I love
Speaker 6: you to your mates? Because this is the other thing.
Speaker 6: I want to drill it into my son so much
Speaker 6: so that if he ever has the saw lightest.
Speaker 7: Problem, he can tell me.
Speaker 6: And for blokes, we don't deliver as much as we
Speaker 6: probably should. We bottle stuff up and we usually don't
Speaker 6: talk until it's it's too late, and it's at such
Speaker 6: a point where it's the last option, and that's really bad.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, we're not putting a line through the chicks
Speaker 2: too in this chit chat. Yeah, if you say I
Speaker 2: love you to your girlfriends all the time, I love
Speaker 2: to hear from you as well.
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I like you.
Speaker 2: Guys are ill luck you a lot.
Speaker 7: We're getting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen twenty four ten, we're doing this this morning.
Speaker 2: Blokes apparently don't say I love you to each other
Speaker 2: even when they're best friends. I'd love to be proven
Speaker 2: wrong in this space on thirteen twenty fourteen. Give us
Speaker 2: a call. But yeah, I was listening to The Inspired
Speaker 2: Unemployed the other day and Falcon is best mates with Jack,
Speaker 2: like there is closest to humans can be, and they
Speaker 2: revealed that sometimes it feels a little awkward to say
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think boths for whatever reason. In that space.
Speaker 6: It's just the strange thing. And you know what happens,
Speaker 6: and it shouldn't happen. It'll come out of a few beers.
Speaker 6: I think the big test is if you can be
Speaker 6: in a situation and you can express how you're feeling
Speaker 6: in a moment of randomness, is.
Speaker 7: What we're talking about. When it comes to emotional maturing exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to wait good, are you and
Speaker 2: I love you? Kind of guy?
Speaker 11: I'm sort of in between. I had a sort of
Speaker 11: fairly serious incident in my life a couple of years
Speaker 11: ago that kind of triggered this response to do some
Speaker 11: deep diving into myself, and and I've tried to kind
Speaker 11: of since them, kind of consciously do it more like
Speaker 11: I was staying up there before that. Like online, I
Speaker 11: find it easier to do. But there's definitely this generational
Speaker 11: thing where you know, we were told not to show
Speaker 11: our emotions and show our feelings and things like that,
Speaker 11: and and so it makes it It does make it difficult,
Speaker 11: but I am I think I'm making a conscious effort
Speaker 11: to change that and show other people through social media
Speaker 11: and stuff that is actually okay to you know, particularly
Speaker 11: obviously man, there's okay to tell people that you love you.
Speaker 11: I do have a couple of really good mates from
Speaker 11: high school that I would tell, and my older brother,
Speaker 11: who is very funny about that sort of stuff. I
Speaker 11: tell him partly because I think he needs to know
Speaker 11: that I love him, but also partly because I know
Speaker 11: he kind of screamed.
Speaker 7: A little bit.
Speaker 2: Like watching him be awkward about it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm I was just going to say, you're
Speaker 6: you're leading a really really important charge because you said
Speaker 6: it before and I connected.
Speaker 7: For whatever reason. It wasn't my dad, because he was
Speaker 7: the opposite.
Speaker 6: He would consistently tell me, but for whatever reason in
Speaker 6: society it was like, no.
Speaker 7: You don't say that.
Speaker 6: You don't want to be wimpy and all those types
Speaker 6: of things, which is ridiculous. So you're changing something that
Speaker 6: needs to be changed, which is very, very valuable.
Speaker 7: So you're doing a good job.
Speaker 2: Way'd thank you so much for your call, really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Interesting use of the word whimpy too. Good morning, Josh.
Speaker 2: How are you sound like an I love you kind
Speaker 2: of guy?
Speaker 1: Oh, if it's on the end of a phone call,
Speaker 1: it's definitely throwing out.
Speaker 11: To love you, but it doesn't tend up and face
Speaker 11: to face too much.
Speaker 7: Why do you reckon, Josh? Is it?
Speaker 6: I think I'm adamant it's sort of a half fear
Speaker 6: of rejection. And even if someone doesn't say it verbally,
Speaker 6: you can probably pick up a few cues if you
Speaker 6: see their facial expressions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: For me, it's definitely not like rejection it to us,
Speaker 6: but like the think cringe sort.
Speaker 7: Of thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Think about it like face to face you're looking at
Speaker 2: each cover's eyes.
Speaker 1: And you're saying I love you over the phone when
Speaker 1: you're whipping out, I love you, bloody love it.
Speaker 2: Do you like to hear it? Josh?
Speaker 1: I love hearing it?
Speaker 6: Still part of it is that, yeah, well, Josh, I
Speaker 6: think you lost your mate when you close your eyes
Speaker 6: and then perch the lips out.
Speaker 2: As we don't talk about that. Oh, Josh, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for people really appreciate it. I'm out there, Hazy.
Speaker 8: We love you, Hazy, I love you.
Speaker 2: Hazy, No, no, no, I love you.
Speaker 7: I love you guys how much that I love that.
Speaker 8: You could have looked either of us.
Speaker 2: When you said that.
Speaker 7: That's what we're talking about this mone.
Speaker 6: We said a quick little chatter offair as well, like
Speaker 6: I'm not sure because it's.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a fear of rejection for blokes.
Speaker 7: It's something that's not wide into us. We're trying to
Speaker 7: shift the generation before us, where it.
Speaker 6: Wasn't the norm to tell other blokes et cetera, that
Speaker 6: you cared about that you love them. And also now
Speaker 6: I'm dealing with a three year old girl who will
Speaker 6: not say I love you back to me, okay, and
Speaker 6: when I finally do get a kiss from wipes her mout.
Speaker 6: I think constantly says Dad, you stink well, I am
Speaker 6: working on my personal.
Speaker 8: Hygiene, trying to get a reaction out of you. Just
Speaker 8: keep telling you love it.
Speaker 2: She's getting one, or maybe you think I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We're talking about blokes telling each other
Speaker 2: that they love them, which we'd love to hear more of.
Speaker 2: By the way, let's go to Asie, a man that
Speaker 2: we love. Are you telling your friends that you love them?
Speaker 1: Yes, I've got a best mate, Chris, shout out, Chris
Speaker 1: love him, will Mark. He's even in my phone as
Speaker 1: Hobby so my wife, My wife has got him saved
Speaker 1: in her phone as Adam's husband. Adam, you gener next
Speaker 1: with someone that's you know, that's your true best mate.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you should. I was brought up
Speaker 1: not to show emotions, but when you when you got
Speaker 1: someone like that, you should tell them you love them
Speaker 1: and show them that you appreciated.
Speaker 7: You are such a wise man.
Speaker 6: Because the other situation is people find themselves where they're
Speaker 6: in a near death experience and something clicks and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you study yourself. I need to say
Speaker 6: the things that I need to say before I die,
Speaker 6: and you're a.
Speaker 7: Head of the curl.
Speaker 2: Love you. Let's go to Havana. Good morning, good morning?
Speaker 2: How are you? Where do you sit with this?
Speaker 8: I always tell my friends that I love them constantly,
Speaker 8: And if so, how long ago?
Speaker 7: I noticed?
Speaker 8: Then I went and called both my friends up and
Speaker 8: I told them how much. That's exactly, that's perfect, that's
Speaker 8: what we want to I love that for you.
Speaker 2: What does it sound like, Havannah when you say to
Speaker 2: your friends, like, for example, if you're saying goodbye on
Speaker 2: the phone or whatever, is it just I love you?
Speaker 1: It's always I love you so much?
Speaker 8: And they always say I love you so much, like
Speaker 8: I'd be beautiful day to day that you too love you?
Speaker 6: Like I think I forget about just how powerful our
Speaker 6: words are.
Speaker 2: I'm going to call my friends now, I love them.
Speaker 7: I just want friends.
Speaker 4: We love you.
Speaker 2: Let's peel back the curtain. We did volunteer to Robbie
Speaker 2: corn fight for him to jump on her and say
Speaker 2: I love you, And he said, I'm too busy doing
Speaker 2: school and he.
Speaker 3: Doesn't even have kids.
Speaker 7: He does have kids. Thank you for the court.
Speaker 6: Havana as well and unbelievable as well, Havana saying I'll
Speaker 6: just call my friends before to say it to him.
Speaker 7: I love him,