1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Well, if you watch the logis on Sunday night, there 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: was some amazing performances. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: This man. 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: We've had him in the studio numerous times. We love 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: having a chat to him. But he is such a 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: talented man. His brand new album Changes All the Time 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: is out octoberfore you can get that pre order right 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: now at Jamesbay dot com James Bay Wilcome. 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: What a pleasure do your mate to go with Basie? 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: You know what? That made my heart melt a little 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: love because well they don't, but it feels like I feel. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: In that moment, I thought, I feel quite welcome in Australia, 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: to my dad, to my dad. Yeah, you know what, 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Like a lot of James is at school, 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: popular name for my generation, and I was one of that. 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm privileged to sell was one of the only ones 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: who just got cooled. James, What was it? 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: What did you see or how did you end up 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: with a guitar in your hand the first time? 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Good question. I remember. The story is that I was 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: in my bedroom on a sort of Saturday morning or afternoon, 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember. It was just a sort of very 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: plain weekend moment, and my bedroom door was It was 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: at the top of the stairs in our house. First 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: on the landing door was open and my dad once 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: in a while, both my parents love music and have 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: the radio on a lot. But my dad put a 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: record on. I heard it and I ran downstairs. I said, 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: what is this? And it was a song called Laylor 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: by a band it was, but it was like the 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: up tempo electric original version. It was Yeah, I heard 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: that riff and I was like, what is this? And 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: my dad told me what it was. I said, put 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: it on again. So we heard a list of the 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: second time, and I took the CD up into my 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: room and I don't think he ever saw it again. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: That was the one, and actually it was funny. In 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I was on tour with Ed Sheer and 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: he asked me the same. 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Question, and I tell you what, he steals all my questions. 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Classic rip off she classic year And he said what 43 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: he asked me the same question? I said later and 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: he said and I said, he said, how old were you? Said? 45 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I was about eleven. He said exactly the same story. 46 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Not not. I don't know that his dad played the 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: record but it was like, Layla is absolutely why I 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: picked up. 49 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: I could tell I'm going to go home and put 50 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: Laylor on for the kids. 51 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. Can we ask you have you 52 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: been to the pub in his house? Because what we've 53 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: interviewed in numerous. 54 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Times as well, and we we gave him what did 55 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: we give him? 56 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: With the b mets, you need to know if they're there, 57 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: you need to shaker as well. I haven't. I confess 58 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I've not. I've not been there, so they're definitely someone. 59 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: Says, James's let's talk like mate, how was the night 60 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: for it? 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: It was wonderful, it was. It reminded me of things 62 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: like the brit Awards and the way that Australians and 63 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: British people do do awards in a very similarly sort 64 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: of informal. Yeah, that's how it felt to me, like 65 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: very relaxed, kind of fun night. It's a little bit 66 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: different in America, Love you America, but like it's a 67 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: bit more sort of straight up and down. Everyone's serious 68 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: and it's a bit more tense. By the way. I 69 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: arrived in Australia at six a m. 70 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I saw you on the Red carpet. 71 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, i'd been. I've been Friday night. I landed 72 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: at six amsterday morning, mad up all day and then 73 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: we played. I played my song at at ten thirty pm. 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Did sleep last night? Can I also say this? I 75 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: was the only person on the red carpet, like, because 76 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm just an idiot, really, but it was wearing sunglasses. Sure, 77 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: I thought they looked good. But all night I'm dropping 78 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: a song title la snaping it. 79 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: He was building in a conversation. Can you tell us 80 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: about the strangest invitation for a gig? Even if you 81 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: haven't played it? 82 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? It's the weirdest, It's 83 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: not even I actually remember. It was around building up 84 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: to my first album coming out and all the attention 85 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: on like social media and stuff was getting a lot. Yeah, 86 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and it wasn't actually a gig off. I was just 87 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I had a really long and earnest message from the girl. 88 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: They said, will you be my prom date? Awesome? It 89 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: was quite sweet, really, and I just happened to read 90 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: it with it ever since. Oh my gosh, it's hard 91 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: to write back. No, it was, it was so it 92 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: was break Unfortunately, of course, you just you just leave 93 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: it blank. So I'm sorry if you couldn't you do 94 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: probably any other invitations you get, didn't you just re no? 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: I can say, can you come to Medicine Square Garden 96 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: and come up and perform stick Season with me? 97 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was cool? You know that was that was 98 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: so much fun. Noah is obviously a massive legend. He 99 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: invited me up. He used to open up for me 100 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: when I when I was going around America a couple 101 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: of different tours, I think, and we were doing a 102 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: little sound check practice and I said, Noah, I don't 103 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm happy. I feel so naked 104 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: without guitar and I have a guitar, and you mind 105 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: if I play along? And he winced a little bit 106 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: and I said no, I said no, I understand. He said, 107 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: why do we do this? Said? I don't want to 108 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: mess with you. I don't want to mess with your mix. 109 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't even plugged in. All the guitar geeks out 110 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: there will be like, wait a minute, what is the switchcraft? 111 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: Is there any Keith Richards moments for you where you 112 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: dream the riff of satisfaction? 113 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great that's a great question. I tell 114 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you what Keith Richards was very lucky, and he must 115 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: be incredibly talented even in his sleep, because yes, I've dreamt, 116 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I've dreamt melodies and as soon as I wake up, 117 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: if I'm lucky to captain, they're terrible. Exactly do you go? 118 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: Do you hear record on your phone? Do you have 119 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: your phone there? Could you give it an example where 120 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: you're actually like it? I'll you the most, the very 121 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: most recent one. Everybody listening. This will not this will 122 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: not be very interesting, but just how a song starts. 123 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: I just want to tell you. I want to tell 124 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: you though I've named it something I named it. It 125 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: just says bit shanaia. I'll do a little talking out 126 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: the top because this is just me playing guitar for 127 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: a while. So this is your huge gym. Yeah, I 128 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: like these chords, and then I'm going to mumble. I'm 129 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: going to mumble some sort of no lyrics. This is 130 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: the verse part. 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, bitch, that's so that's the start, James for me. 132 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Typically that's what happened. 133 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: Why don't you think that's going to go anywhere? 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Because I'm very self British and self deprecating quietly, you know, 135 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: but quitely I think I'm brilliant. Don't tell anybody so, buddy. 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: His brand new album Changes All the Time is out 137 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: October four. You can get that pre order right now 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: at Jamesbay dot com. 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: You are a legend. This country loves you, mate. We 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thanks for coming in, James, Thank you 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: so much for having me. It's pleasure. Thanks Jack. 142 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 143 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: walk great shows like this. Download the Nova player by 144 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: the app Store or Google playing the player