WEBVTT - Battle of the VPs: Tim Walz v JD Vance

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<v Speaker 1>My fellow Americans and my fellow Republicans. My name is JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance from the Great state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>In the week since he was announced as Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>running mate, JD. Vans has had some of his past

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<v Speaker 2>remarks with surface and has been at the center of

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<v Speaker 2>a number of bizarre rumors and jokes.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote can't say for sure, but he might be the

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<v Speaker 3>first VP pick to have admitted in a New York

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<v Speaker 3>Times bestseller to effing an inside out latex glove shoved

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<v Speaker 3>between two coush cushions.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been picked up by some Democrats who are labeling

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<v Speaker 2>the two men on the Republican ticket as weird. In contrast,

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<v Speaker 2>the man that Kamala Harris has chosen to joiner on

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic ticket, Tim Waltz, has been described as aggressively normal.

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<v Speaker 4>Him Minnesota, Walsh family here Saturday night. Thought we would

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<v Speaker 4>just share what we're reading or we're going to read,

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<v Speaker 4>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>So as being ordinary enough to win over the average

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<v Speaker 2>American voter. And how are Republicans come batting it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, but weird, I'm not, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>up front and he is not either.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you JD is not at all. They are.

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<v Speaker 2>From Schwartz Media. I'm Daniel James. This is seven AM today.

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<v Speaker 2>Senior researcher at the Australian Institute, Doctor Emma shortis on

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<v Speaker 2>the tactics of the two vice presidential candidates and what

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<v Speaker 2>their nominations say about their parties. It's Thursday, August eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So after a series of what's been called chemistry tests

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<v Speaker 2>with potential VP candidates, Kamala Harris has officially chosen Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Waltz from Minnesota as her running mate. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do we know about him and what makes him a

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<v Speaker 2>good option.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Waltz cuts her a really interesting figure and

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<v Speaker 5>you can totally see why he would have passed that

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<v Speaker 5>chemistry test with Harris. I've seen a number of profiles

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<v Speaker 5>that have described him as the kind of Midwestern loving

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<v Speaker 5>dad that everybody likes. So he grew up in Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 5>He joined the National Guard at the age of I

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<v Speaker 5>think about seventeen. He went on to be a teacher

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<v Speaker 5>and a football coach before being elected to Congress and

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<v Speaker 5>then becoming the governor of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Minnesota, Governor walds here out of the state May

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<v Speaker 4>with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Every year we as a family do something old and

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<v Speaker 4>something new.

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<v Speaker 5>I get the Picktures And he's super popular. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's partly because it's like, it sounds so weird

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<v Speaker 5>to say, but he embodies this kind of big dad energy.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we're going to go get some food born dog.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm medisarian turkey, then Andy me not in Minnesota Turkey special.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think like partly because of that, because he's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of totally unembarrassed by his normal dad energy, he's

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<v Speaker 5>also a really effective communicator.

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<v Speaker 4>We do not like what has happened where we can't

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<v Speaker 4>even go to Thanksgiving dinner with our uncle because you

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<v Speaker 4>end up in some weird fight that is unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's actually the one who first coined Republicans, particularly

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<v Speaker 5>JD Evans, being super weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's true, these guys are just weird, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know they're running for He Man Women Haters Club or something.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they got. That's not what people are interested yet.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's kind of continued since on that frame of

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<v Speaker 5>using dad jokes. So in his first rally appearance with

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<v Speaker 5>Harris in Pennsylvania, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta tell you, I can't wait to debate.

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<v Speaker 5>The guy Waltz talked about whether they would have a

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<v Speaker 5>debate and made a joke about whether the Vans would

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<v Speaker 5>get off the couch.

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<v Speaker 4>That is, if he's willing to get off the couch

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<v Speaker 4>and show up.

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<v Speaker 5>Which, for listeners who aren't like as perennially online as

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<v Speaker 5>we are, is a reference to this totally untrue rumor

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<v Speaker 5>about jd Vance doing things to a couch, which I

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<v Speaker 5>will a pretty gross and I will just let listeners

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<v Speaker 5>kind of pursue on their own time. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he made this joke, and he followed up with the.

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<v Speaker 4>Line, you.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's really leaning into this like big dad energy,

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<v Speaker 5>and for the moment at least, it seems to be

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<v Speaker 5>playing super well.

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<v Speaker 2>There seemed to be an assumption that Josh Shapiro, the

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvanian governor, was going to be the pick. So what

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<v Speaker 2>does it say that Harris has gone with Wells instead.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it says a lot actually about the campaign

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<v Speaker 5>and the Democratic Party more broadly, because you're right that

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<v Speaker 5>there was this assumption that Shapiro was the obvious choice,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, as the governor of Pennsylvania, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>critical swing state. You know, he was going to bring

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<v Speaker 5>Pennsylvania along there's this sense that he appealed to the

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<v Speaker 5>quote unquote center of American politics because he's particularly popular

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<v Speaker 5>with Republicans in Pennsylvania, and so the logic all seemed

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<v Speaker 5>to suggest that it was going to be this guy

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<v Speaker 5>like Barack Obama, had you know, unofficially endorsed him. And

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<v Speaker 5>so the fact that Harris didn't go with Shapiro, I

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<v Speaker 5>think suggests that, firstly, that her calculations are really quite different,

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<v Speaker 5>that maybe she's not focused you know, she's focused on

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<v Speaker 5>winning as many votes as possible, of course, but she's

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<v Speaker 5>not focused on winning over the kind of mythical swing

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<v Speaker 5>voter at the expense of mobilizing the base. There was

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<v Speaker 5>this kind of movement in the lead up to this

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<v Speaker 5>decision from progressive Democrats pushing Harris not to pick Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly because of his positions on Israel and on student

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<v Speaker 5>protesters in the United States. He's been particularly aggressive, i

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<v Speaker 5>suppose in his condemnation of those protests as and his

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<v Speaker 5>and progressive Democrats called on Harris not to pick him

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, he would potentially shatter the unity that

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<v Speaker 5>had emerged after Biden had stepped aside, and the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that Harris has picked Waltz, who has been quite supportive

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<v Speaker 5>of protesters and quite consistent in his position. There really

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<v Speaker 5>suggests a kind of power shift I think within the

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<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party and a change in strategy alongside of that.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems to have captured the moment, and as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a record as being a progressive. What do

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<v Speaker 2>we know about his time in office.

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<v Speaker 5>He has been a very effective governor. So he's done

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<v Speaker 5>things like expand gun control in the aftermath of the

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<v Speaker 5>Parkland massacre. He's expanded things like family and medical leave,

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<v Speaker 5>and has instituted things like universal free school meals, so

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<v Speaker 5>you know, free breakfast and lunch for kids in Minnesota schools,

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<v Speaker 5>and a lot of that aligns with Harris has kind

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<v Speaker 5>of stated priorities around, you know, lifting up the middle class,

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<v Speaker 5>and so his credentials there are really quite strong. And

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<v Speaker 5>again that's why he's quite an interesting figure, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think Waltz is able to kind of flip the narrative

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<v Speaker 5>around particularly white American masculinity, in a way that almost

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<v Speaker 5>no one else could, you know that Harris isn't able

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<v Speaker 5>to do. And so I certainly think Waltz could broaden

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<v Speaker 5>Harris's appeal and the Democratic Party's appeal in a really

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<v Speaker 5>effective way. Again, you know, remains to be seen. There's

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<v Speaker 5>still a long time to go, but initially, at least

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<v Speaker 5>he seems to be having that effect.

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<v Speaker 2>What's been the reaction from Donald Trump and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>to this pic.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not taking any of it well, They're nor responding

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<v Speaker 5>particularly effectively. Trump has been posting about Waltz in particular

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<v Speaker 5>and saying that this is the most radical duo you

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<v Speaker 5>know that the Democrats have ever put up, which is

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<v Speaker 5>like not entirely wrong, to be perfectly frank, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is quite a progressive ticket in contrast to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>what is one of the most conservative tickets of the

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<v Speaker 5>last several decades of American politics. So he's trying out

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<v Speaker 5>that attack line, which he would have done anyway. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're always going to call their Democratic opponents communists, regardless

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<v Speaker 5>of how out of touchdowns with reality. But it seems

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<v Speaker 5>like they really don't quite know how to react to

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<v Speaker 5>the Waltz accusation of being weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're the weird ones, and if you have ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen her with the laugh and everything else, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird deal going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the weird ones, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody's ever called me weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of things, but weird, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is used to setting the narrative and framing the conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>and so he's been taken by surprise. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>he's not doing that at the moment. But also I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he and his surrogates are used to being

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<v Speaker 5>described as dangerous and frightening, and that makes them feel powerful,

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<v Speaker 5>and being described as weird is deeply unsettling, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's partly about how much of their political identity

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<v Speaker 5>is framed around a kind of hyper masculinity, and being

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<v Speaker 5>described as weird, particularly now by women and women of color,

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<v Speaker 5>is a kind of worse nightmare scenario for these kind

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<v Speaker 5>of men, and they just don't know how to respond.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think completely taken aback by how effective it

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<v Speaker 5>has been.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, two men with similar origins but radically

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<v Speaker 2>different visions, after the same voters.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Middletown, Ohio, a small town where

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<v Speaker 1>people spoke their minds, built with their hands, and loved

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<v Speaker 1>their God, their family, their community, and their country with

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<v Speaker 1>their whole hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>So jd. Vance is Trump's running mate and you've actually

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<v Speaker 2>seen him speak in person and thought he was a

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<v Speaker 2>good pick for vice president? What made you think that?

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<v Speaker 5>So I did see him speaking in Washington, DC a

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<v Speaker 5>few months before he was announced as the pick, and

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that because he was an extraordinarily slick operator.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he speaks with such clarity and has this

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<v Speaker 5>extraordinary ability to say incredibly radical things and make them

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<v Speaker 5>sound like normal and like common sense. And in the

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<v Speaker 5>room that I was in, which was a foreign policy

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<v Speaker 5>conference with a very conservative audience, you know, he had

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<v Speaker 5>people eating out of his hands and kind of following

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<v Speaker 5>him around. He had this whole kind of brigade going

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<v Speaker 5>with him. And so it was I think fairly obvious

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<v Speaker 5>why Trump would pick him, because he represents the kind

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<v Speaker 5>of next generation of the MAGA movement.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in the fourth grade, a career politician

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Joe Biden supported NAFTA, a bad

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<v Speaker 1>trade deal that sent countless good jobs.

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<v Speaker 5>To Mexico, and suggests that it is bigger than Trump

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<v Speaker 5>in a way that's not threatening to Trump personally, and.

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<v Speaker 1>At each step of the way, in small towns like

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<v Speaker 1>mine in Ohio or next door in Pennsylvania, or Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>and states all across our country. Jobs were sent overseas, and.

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<v Speaker 5>So in that sense, he was an obvious pick, especially

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<v Speaker 5>in that kind of moment of hubris after the assassination attempt,

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<v Speaker 5>while Biden was still the nominee, and while everyone, pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much everyone, myself included, was pretty convinced that it was

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<v Speaker 5>now Trump's to lose. So I think in that context,

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<v Speaker 5>Vance was the obvious pick for Trump. He hasn't handled

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<v Speaker 5>his elevation particularly well. I don't think there's clear indications

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<v Speaker 5>that he may not have appeal outside of that right

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<v Speaker 5>wing bubble, But I don't think we should write him

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<v Speaker 5>off necessarily. He's a political chameleon and very good at

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<v Speaker 5>seeking out power, so this may also just be a

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<v Speaker 5>stumble and he may find his feet with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have doubts bett his ability to speak

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<v Speaker 2>beyond Trump's base? He saw him in the flesh. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a crowd united, almost a fever pitch. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>a case that the longer the campaign goes, the more

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<v Speaker 2>he may isolate voters beyond that group?

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<v Speaker 5>So I think I have doubts about that because Vance

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<v Speaker 5>has been so focused on mobilizing his own base and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of stoking his own credentials with the kind of

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<v Speaker 5>maga Republican movement, and so it's been pretty extraordinary and

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<v Speaker 5>funny as well to see the kind of coverage events frame,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, comments he's made throughout his career as like

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<v Speaker 5>being uncovered or like having new videos of him saying

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<v Speaker 5>weird stuff about women leaked.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look at Kamala Harris, Pete boodageg AOC. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire few mature of the Democrats is controlled by people

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<v Speaker 1>without children.

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<v Speaker 5>The most prominent one at the moment is his comment

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<v Speaker 5>about single, childless cat ladies running the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via

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<v Speaker 1>our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies

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<v Speaker 1>who are miserable at their own lives and the choices

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<v Speaker 1>that they've made, and so they want to make the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the country miserable too.

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<v Speaker 5>He said that because he was kind of thirsty for

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<v Speaker 5>attention within the base. So they knew all of this

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<v Speaker 5>about Dvance and presumably saw it as a positive because

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<v Speaker 5>he would theoretically be able to mobilize the base kind

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<v Speaker 5>of reassure them that this is a continuing generational project.

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<v Speaker 5>Get them out to vote on the issues they care about,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, particularly abortion, and so the calculation there I

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<v Speaker 5>think was logical within the right wing universe. The problem

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<v Speaker 5>is the inability to anticipate how people will react outside

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<v Speaker 5>of that. And you can see that with both the

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<v Speaker 5>surprise at the reception that Vance is getting, but also

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<v Speaker 5>at Harris's popularity. You know, within that right wing bubble,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just not occurred to people that a vaguely left

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<v Speaker 5>wing black woman might be actually appealing to Americans. I'm white,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a dude, and I'm for Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>Tens of thousands of self proclaimed white dudes for Harris

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<v Speaker 4>joined a zoom call to rally support for her, even

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<v Speaker 4>featured a cameo from the dude himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Come well, it is just so certainly our girl.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I can see her. So I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 5>saying yes to both of your questions. I think Daniel

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<v Speaker 5>want to say that, you know, Vance I think can

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<v Speaker 5>mobilize the base. He may get enough of them out

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<v Speaker 5>in places like Pennsylvania to win those stays. But also

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<v Speaker 5>his appeal doesn't really extend beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of these two men, Jdi Vancentinwelds have quite radically

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<v Speaker 2>different visions, but ultimately, as just alluded to, both speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to the working class. So who's message and vision do

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<v Speaker 2>you think will resonate more with Americans.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of an impossible question to answer, isn't it

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<v Speaker 5>until about the sixth of November? But I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they are seeking to a very similar audiences.

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<v Speaker 5>So Vance will often talk about his working class origins.

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<v Speaker 5>He wrote a whole memoir about them. But a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of his appeal to the working class I think is

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<v Speaker 5>has a kind of quite thinly disguised contempt particularly white

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<v Speaker 5>working class people who haven't been able to drag themselves

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<v Speaker 5>out of the working class in the way that he

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<v Speaker 5>understands he did. Whereas you know, you contrast that, I

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<v Speaker 5>think with Waltz, and his appeal is to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a sense of family and community and support and a

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<v Speaker 5>kind of unconditional love, you know, even for your weird

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<v Speaker 5>uncle who you just kind of wish would be less

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<v Speaker 5>weird and a bit more understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>What I know is is that people like gd Events

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<v Speaker 4>know nothing about small town America. My town had four

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<v Speaker 4>hundred people in it, twenty four kids in my graduating class,

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<v Speaker 4>twelve for or cousins, and he gets it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a not.

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<v Speaker 4>About heat, it's not about collapsing in the Golden rule.

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<v Speaker 4>There is mind your own damn business.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, that contrast is pretty extreme, and I think certainly

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<v Speaker 5>the reception to Harris and now Walls at least initially

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<v Speaker 5>indicates that there is a real appetite for that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of message, you know, for a different kind of vision

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<v Speaker 5>of the future, for a bit of joy and a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of humanity in politics. But again, I think we

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<v Speaker 5>can't underestimate some of the despair and the apathy, particularly

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<v Speaker 5>in the Midwest, that Vance and Trump are appealing to.

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<v Speaker 5>And we know that Trump has been particularly effective at

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<v Speaker 5>appealing to that sense of victimhood. So, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>always so easy to get carried away by the momentum

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<v Speaker 5>of politics. But the contrast between those two tickets is

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<v Speaker 5>so stark. Now, you know, to go from having two

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<v Speaker 5>old white dudes who could only distinguish themselves by kind

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<v Speaker 5>of not being each other, to such a vastly different

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<v Speaker 5>politics but also vision for the future of America. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats all of a sudden have this kind of clear air,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they're able to kind of lean into that

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<v Speaker 5>joy and the slight weirdness of their own campaign in

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<v Speaker 5>a way that's been really energizing. But the fundamentals of

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<v Speaker 5>the electoral map haven't actually changed. The campaign has changed dramatically,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's still true that, you know, the road to

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<v Speaker 5>the White House for Harris lies through probably Pennsylvania and Georgia,

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<v Speaker 5>and winning those two states is going to be pretty critical.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's really important that we don't kind of

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<v Speaker 5>get carried away and assume that this is how it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to play out, because we know things can change

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<v Speaker 5>in an instant ema.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's safe to say that American politics can

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<v Speaker 2>never be categorized as normal. Thanks for your.

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<v Speaker 5>Time, anytime, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the news today, Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds has

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<v Speaker 2>told the WA Supreme Court that she felt like a

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<v Speaker 2>punching clown in a fairground by critical social media posts

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<v Speaker 2>from Britney Higgins and David Chaaz. Senator Reynolds is suing

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<v Speaker 2>miss Higgins over she claims damaged her reputation and we're

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<v Speaker 2>part of a plan conspiracy to harm her that we're

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<v Speaker 2>published after Miss Higgins alleged to rape in Parliament House

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<v Speaker 2>and at the age of fourteen, skateboarder Arissa True has

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<v Speaker 2>become Australia's youngest Gold Olympic medalist after winning the women's

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<v Speaker 2>park skateboard event and capturing Australia's fourteenth gold medal of

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Games. True described a moment as insane. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all for today. If you've enjoyed this episode, please share

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Daniel James. This is seven AM. Thanks for listening.