Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Daily Telegraph Funeral podcast on Brent
Speaker 1: Read as usual, joined Potechnical two, Pam Wyley. How are
Speaker 1: we good? Weekend footy? There was some shocking games. That's
Speaker 1: our manly game. We're not going to talk about that game.
Speaker 2: It was diabolical. The weather was diabolical too, so I think.
Speaker 3: What were you saying to me before?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: Gives the kids a chance to play, because let's.
Speaker 1: Enjoy this time of year because you're going to see
Speaker 1: some guys you never see and some guys come out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork with that he.
Speaker 2: Was guy you never saw, came out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1: Okaywork. What about some of those Tiers kids, let's start there,
Speaker 1: some of those Tiers kids on on Sunday. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was that side for that game. Camberwod terrible, just terrible.
Speaker 1: The toys were really good, they were really good.
Speaker 4: And not to take anything away from the Tigers, but
Speaker 4: the Raiders were bad. They were just off. You're completely
Speaker 4: my Raiders. So disappointing. But yeah, the Tigers. Another another kid,
Speaker 4: well more kids from the Howard Matts team that won
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, has now debuted, you know,
Speaker 4: alongside like Gaalvin, Heath, Mason tallon the Silver.
Speaker 2: And Luke kids.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Kit was in the Howard Matt's
Speaker 4: team though, And I guess the pleasing thing about it
Speaker 4: is Gallan is back and playing some good football and
Speaker 4: has committed he backs himself and why weren't you.
Speaker 5: Was just unmarred by the discussion of.
Speaker 3: Harded him and brought him down. Yet. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: really cool to see.
Speaker 5: What I thought, I think was really cool about him though,
Speaker 5: is all of this talk that's been happening about his
Speaker 5: contract and things like that, and then he just kind
Speaker 5: of comes out and does that and he's a teenager
Speaker 5: just to be able to absorb all that, yeah, and
Speaker 5: still perform, I think that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3: Was not expecting this though.
Speaker 1: As in this performance, well, camera were really bad, but
Speaker 1: they's just started so well with Tigers, and Galvin was
Speaker 1: at the heart of that. I think he was. You know,
Speaker 1: I said they played the real confidence, they threw the
Speaker 1: ball around a bit, that it was quite an entertaining game.
Speaker 4: It was, it was, But you know who has been
Speaker 4: stood up in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: The Tigers their four pack.
Speaker 4: You know, like like with Galvin, there was there's talk
Speaker 4: about Stefano to a commander his future Samuel Faye, who
Speaker 4: is in some sort of you know, Stefano sort of
Speaker 4: stepped up a little bit. I wonder if yeh dol
Speaker 4: his back. So, yeah, there are what do you call
Speaker 4: them reading green.
Speaker 1: Shoots green shoots. He's definitely What about the Galvin decision
Speaker 1: to stay at the Foota club. Look what he said
Speaker 1: is he will honor his contract. He's got two years
Speaker 1: left in his contract, but basically it's given the Tigers
Speaker 1: twelve months. There's no extension off from the table for him.
Speaker 1: Tigers have bought themselves twelve months to convince him to
Speaker 1: stay because on November one next year he can go
Speaker 1: to market. And they basically brought themselves to November one
Speaker 1: next year to show him that they're heading in the
Speaker 1: right direction. They could make him a better football player.
Speaker 1: But it was huge to keep him right, to convince
Speaker 1: him to stay right.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that we talked about it probably a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I think, wasn't it when this.
Speaker 5: First popped up, and I said, you know, if you're
Speaker 5: not happy, it's hard to kind of convince someone to
Speaker 5: stay or to play for you if they're not happy,
Speaker 5: and he seems to have totally had to change of
Speaker 5: heart depending on whatever they've said the But it makes
Speaker 5: sense that he hang around though, right because there is
Speaker 5: change coming next year.
Speaker 3: You've got Jerome Lwai coming in.
Speaker 5: Things are potentially hopefully going to be different, So to
Speaker 5: cut and run now would be premature.
Speaker 2: Do you think he is deeply unhappy being there?
Speaker 4: Or is it more the fact that he came into
Speaker 4: the side at a time where you know they'd lost
Speaker 4: what ten in or row or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Do you think he because I did that story with him.
Speaker 4: I think it was in April where I asked him
Speaker 4: about that, like do you want to be here? Do
Speaker 4: you want to build an NROL team around these the
Speaker 4: Harold Matt's team that came that you came through with.
Speaker 4: And he is so fresh and so green that I
Speaker 4: don't think he liked to me when he said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want to be here and we want to build
Speaker 4: a team together and sort of do what Penrith had
Speaker 4: done with our sort of pathways. So I don't know
Speaker 4: whether he's genuinely and the way he spoke about Benji
Speaker 4: and the influence that Benji's had on his game, the
Speaker 4: confidence that Benji's shown on him shown. I don't think
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be there. I just think he's
Speaker 4: experiencing the roller coaster of being in an NRL side
Speaker 4: that isn't performing where he'd probably want them to be.
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to leave. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people pointing the finger of his age, and this
Speaker 1: is I know Isaac. I get on well with him.
Speaker 1: I think it was really unfair on him, actually, because
Speaker 1: I think an agent's job is to represent his client
Speaker 1: and do it his client wanted, and his client, his
Speaker 1: client's parents didn't want him at the football club, and
Speaker 1: Isaac's job is therefore to press the issue and try
Speaker 1: and get change if he can get it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think he wasn't happy. I think he genuinely
Speaker 1: wanted to leave, and I think his family thought the
Speaker 1: best thing for him was to leave. But as he
Speaker 1: sat down with Benji, he sat down with rich Oh
Speaker 1: and they've convinced him at least on the deal. I
Speaker 1: think a really tough time for him because I think
Speaker 1: it's probably the first time his life, you know, he's
Speaker 1: been a winner all his life and he's probably been
Speaker 1: a bit of a favorite at that footy club. But
Speaker 1: actually I think people turn on him a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a really tough time for him. So for an
Speaker 1: eight year old to go through that and they come
Speaker 1: out play the way he did, it's pretty impressive people
Speaker 1: turn on I think fans turned on him a little
Speaker 1: bit lot. I think he had some bad interactions with
Speaker 1: some supporters over it and on social media, and you know,
Speaker 1: then come out and play like he did. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it speaks volumes for who he is as a
Speaker 1: as a person.
Speaker 3: Just fans just having a go at it.
Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, you know when when they think,
Speaker 1: when they think you're not committed to the footy club,
Speaker 1: Tiger's fan is pretty passionate. They've been through a tough
Speaker 1: time and they see an eighteen year old kid who
Speaker 1: they've who's and let's stress he is not a Tiger's kid.
Speaker 1: He's a Paramattic kid. Yes, his family of Paramatta fans.
Speaker 1: He's not as he's played. I think he swapped in
Speaker 1: his fifteen or something. Maybe I think it was he
Speaker 1: grew up a Paramatic fan the whole time. I wanted
Speaker 1: to play for Paramatta, but the Tigers see him as
Speaker 1: one of their juniors. So then see one of your
Speaker 1: juniors turn around and agitate to leave the footy club.
Speaker 1: I can understand them getting a little annoyed with that,
Speaker 1: and maybe some of them I.
Speaker 5: Can understand that. I just hate when they like, this
Speaker 5: is a kid, right and he's eighteen. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it's fair enough and not even really, but it's fair
Speaker 5: enough to cop to, you know, some of those senior
Speaker 5: players in the team, to cop the criticism. You're on
Speaker 5: big money, you are experienced, you know what is required.
Speaker 5: You have been a professional for ten years.
Speaker 3: You know. Blood the eighteen year old kid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the thing that when you were talking
Speaker 4: about how people turn on him so quickly and he's
Speaker 4: only so young, he's only in his rookie season. It
Speaker 4: sort of has shades of Loopbooks about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's very wary of what books he was.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And so that's fair enough to think, Oh, I
Speaker 4: don't want to be at a club where I'm going
Speaker 4: to be sort of the hope or the key guy
Speaker 4: in the harms and then be the whipping boy for
Speaker 4: the next ten years of my career. So that's something
Speaker 4: he does definitely have to think about.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerome coming in next year is going to
Speaker 1: take a lot of heat off him. That's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing they've gotten their favor aside from you know, obviously
Speaker 1: a relationship with Benji. I think Jerome who was the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for them in terms of the Lachland Galvin,
Speaker 1: because if Jerome can come and take him under his
Speaker 1: wing and teach him how to win, and teach that
Speaker 1: footy club how to win, that'll go a long way
Speaker 1: to convince the Lock and Galvin stay. And then you
Speaker 1: see all those kids coming through that have come that
Speaker 1: he's played tun and footy with. It's can be hard
Speaker 1: to if they start to turn the corner, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to drag himself away from that group of kids
Speaker 1: as well. And it's the same like obviously the other show.
Speaker 1: I've got Stefano and I think we'll have some sort
Speaker 1: of clarity around Stefano this week. I think there'll be
Speaker 1: some talks this week around Stefano and that footy club.
Speaker 1: He was really good again yesterday. He's not off contract
Speaker 1: at the end of the year yet, but he probably
Speaker 1: will be in a matter.
Speaker 4: Of that clause kicked in yet not, so they have
Speaker 4: to be mathematically out of the.
Speaker 1: Yes, so how far that at the moment?
Speaker 2: Remind me of this table, so second last on one
Speaker 2: points and.
Speaker 1: How many wins are they for wins? How many wins
Speaker 1: is the eighth fo team eight eight? So the four wins,
Speaker 1: So you can mathematically sit and work it out. But
Speaker 1: he's probably another month away from being a free agent. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this I think. I think their plans are to
Speaker 1: chatter in this week about it and try it because
Speaker 1: there's a big offer on the table for him five
Speaker 1: years for men.
Speaker 3: Do you think he's leaving.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll take the offer. I think he'll
Speaker 1: go to market and see what's out there for him.
Speaker 1: And my gut feeling is the Tigers if they can't
Speaker 1: get him to agree this week or say to him,
Speaker 1: let's not wait four weeks, let's go out and see
Speaker 1: what's out there for you now. And you know which
Speaker 1: I think is a smart thing to do. I think
Speaker 1: it's because it because by not allowing him to do that,
Speaker 1: it doesn't allow you You've got to wait then as well,
Speaker 1: because you don't know where they're going to do. Money
Speaker 1: to stand it allows him to actually go in the
Speaker 1: marketplace and never look around as well. At the same time,
Speaker 1: and they could say to him, Luk Stefano, mate, you
Speaker 1: can you can go and have a look around if
Speaker 1: you decide you want to stay. If you come back
Speaker 1: to us in three weeks, there's no guarantee that money
Speaker 1: will still be there, because we might have gone and
Speaker 1: signed someone in the meantime.
Speaker 4: The thing is is, well, depending on what they want
Speaker 4: to sign, and it's probably say they miss out and
Speaker 4: Stafin he doesn't want to stay there. It's a forward.
Speaker 4: There probably isn't another forward on the market. Oste Fino's
Speaker 4: color buss just trying to think who is the only
Speaker 4: sort of risk depending on what they want to put in,
Speaker 4: I mean, where they want to put that money and
Speaker 4: redirect that.
Speaker 1: Actually, just got to hope that as we have every year,
Speaker 1: there's always someone somewhere who's been unsettled or you know,
Speaker 1: you could throw big money at him and you never
Speaker 1: know what happens. But the good news that the other
Speaker 1: good news that was that on dew we yeah, four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine days.
Speaker 2: Apparently such a long time. Yeah, because it actually look faster.
Speaker 4: Well, he Yeah, he was able to outpace weeks, so
Speaker 4: that that's something, and the fact that you know what
Speaker 4: a way to sort of test out your thirdnee reconstruction,
Speaker 4: you know, like an eighty meter in a sept try so,
Speaker 4: and it was good to see. And also the way
Speaker 4: he just combined seemed to combine them on their side
Speaker 4: so seamlessly. With Lachlan Govern as well. They seem to
Speaker 4: have like a good connection and that is really when
Speaker 4: you think about how many halves they have at that
Speaker 4: club at the moment, Like you said, with Lui coming in,
Speaker 4: you probably think a spot in the in the centers
Speaker 4: is probably the way to go for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He would have just been flogging himself this whole time
Speaker 5: though as well, wouldn't he Just like when you're in rehab,
Speaker 5: he's just doing so much aerobic stuff, just cardio, cardio, cardio.
Speaker 1: Well, Benji was saying, he's been hassling for about three weeks.
Speaker 1: You've got to play pay and he played obviously news
Speaker 1: to the last Cup last week. Now I think he
Speaker 1: played seventy minutes to play the whole game and then
Speaker 1: obviously Justin Nolan got realed out and Benji said, mate,
Speaker 1: you're playing then he said, I run him on Saturday
Speaker 1: night just to make sure because he was actually worried
Speaker 1: that he wasn't doing the right thing by Adam and said, mate,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Yeah, and he you know, he'll
Speaker 1: be great for them because he'll help Galvin, Neil help,
Speaker 1: He'll take some press sure of Caesar and yeah, you
Speaker 1: know if you got the young guys like Lala Lee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: having experienced go like him in your back line. And
Speaker 1: he's a good center. He's a really good center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some positive signs.
Speaker 2: There are some, like I said, Green shoots.
Speaker 1: Them as opposed to the Warriors, there weren't many positive
Speaker 1: signs out of them on the weekend. What is doing
Speaker 1: that was horrific.
Speaker 2: It was so bad.
Speaker 1: What's gone on there?
Speaker 3: There's look Joy mean to go through some of these
Speaker 3: starts here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the Fox Sports Lab twelve errors, forty six
Speaker 5: missed tackles, they had a sixty.
Speaker 3: Nine percent completion rate and just one line break.
Speaker 4: I think thirty of those forty six missed tackles. Was
Speaker 4: it was like in the first half, obviously that's a
Speaker 4: team that didn't come ready for you know, the physicality.
Speaker 2: Of an NRL game.
Speaker 4: Or even just with the right attitude, and it was
Speaker 4: just it's strange because they this looks, this looks more
Speaker 4: like the Warriors teams of the past, a sort of
Speaker 4: Jeckle and Hyde as opposed to the Warriors team of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three that were tough, that were gritty, were
Speaker 4: effort based, and then on the back of all that,
Speaker 4: you know, you got to see their strike weapons in attack,
Speaker 4: but just wasn't there, Like even to Murray Marden, who'd
Speaker 4: been in some good form over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 4: was just you know, a shadow of himself. Sean Johnson's
Speaker 4: sort of been, you know, not that great anonymous. Yeah
Speaker 4: he has, he has, but in his defense, he has
Speaker 4: been managing a painful achilles injury just about all year
Speaker 4: and then he had a break and then he's come
Speaker 4: back and again not himself. But I think the most
Speaker 4: disappointing thing is just on the back of the support
Speaker 4: that they've got at the moment that, you know, that
Speaker 4: wave of support, that ground swill of support for them
Speaker 4: to be dishing up something like that.
Speaker 1: It was a.
Speaker 2: Terrible sorry about that that.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was just hard tackle.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean that yeah.
Speaker 3: But these things happen, doesn't it. Like with the Warrior.
Speaker 5: I think with the Warriors especially, like when they're just
Speaker 5: down on their luck, things just snowball.
Speaker 3: And it just gets worse and worse and worse. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is just like a commitment in defense though
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just thought maybe even with Roger Roger back and
Speaker 5: yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4: But the thing is they're thirteenth now and they've got it's.
Speaker 5: Like no one's even We're watching some of these footage
Speaker 5: now and just no one's even.
Speaker 1: Such a good player, yeah, such a good player.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're thirteenth now. Games against Brisbane and Canbrey
Speaker 4: coming up. Those two games, considering how they played here,
Speaker 4: are going to be tough for them, and you know,
Speaker 4: their finals hopes are hanging by thread now and again
Speaker 4: considering what they're trying to do over in New Zealand,
Speaker 4: that is true really disappointing that they can't back up
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three with the finals appearance this year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, on the Titans, has La just quickly on
Speaker 1: the worst. I wonder whether Fania Blake's become a distraction
Speaker 1: for them because obviously he's leaving the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and Adams the sort of guy who can be difficult
Speaker 1: when I think things aren't going He's going his way,
Speaker 1: and he's.
Speaker 2: Obviously his agitating friend.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that he's agitating for an earlier release,
Speaker 1: but I consider giving him one just to remove the distraction.
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. I don't think Carnella well,
Speaker 1: actually Cronella could do with him, couldn't they At the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether Carnella's got the cash to fit
Speaker 1: him in, but if on Cronella, I'd be they've got
Speaker 1: to a June thirty. What's the day today?
Speaker 2: It is a twenty four.
Speaker 1: I'd be asking the question the next six days of
Speaker 1: the worries. Can I get a Can we get Adam
Speaker 1: Fanil Blake if they can find the cash somewhere, because
Speaker 1: you've only got a payin for July or septemb October
Speaker 1: four months now. He's on huge money, He's on about
Speaker 1: a million bucks. You've got to find two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty grand in a cellary cap. I don't know whether
Speaker 1: they've got it, but if they have, I'd be trying
Speaker 1: to get Fanilla Blake now because My feeling is he's
Speaker 1: it's not working out in theory.
Speaker 5: What then could the Warriors do with that?
Speaker 1: Well, I can potentially try and find someone. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure whether they could find anyone now, but you can.
Speaker 1: You've got six days to try and see what's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but see, that's another thing, like when you think
Speaker 4: about last year, we were talking about Adam Fanoel Blakers
Speaker 4: potentially being the best prop in the game that had
Speaker 4: overtaken painhas or is this year again just super inconsistent
Speaker 4: and has it been as impactful as it was for
Speaker 4: them in the past. But yeah, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 4: It's if you're going to make a run for the finals,
Speaker 4: you need guys like Adam Fanoeur Blake in your side.
Speaker 2: So it's a.
Speaker 4: Test for a website to see if you can get
Speaker 4: guys like Sean Johnson, who was so important for them
Speaker 4: as well, guys like Adam fanoel Blake firing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you're right what you said earlier about it's
Speaker 1: a shame because the game's going so well over there,
Speaker 1: like so well, Yeah, I like the Broncost game has
Speaker 1: been sold out for here's something's been there for weeks
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I think they saw that every home
Speaker 4: game this year. But again, that all happened on the
Speaker 4: back of their success last year. And I think they
Speaker 4: can't take for granted the fact that Enterhal fans can
Speaker 4: be pretty fickle, you know what I mean, Like they
Speaker 4: missed the finals, they start having heavy defeats like this,
Speaker 4: fans will will stop showing up, you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, they need to be better.
Speaker 5: Especially if it's just a when you're looking at it
Speaker 5: and it's just a lack of commitment, you're seeing them
Speaker 5: being just easily beaten and you can see that there's
Speaker 5: no like the effort is just not there, Like they
Speaker 5: were just not communicating in defense whatsoever.
Speaker 3: They were just it was a shame.
Speaker 1: Because they actually they actually look like a really good
Speaker 1: team at times.
Speaker 5: And then that's thing, and there's been so so many
Speaker 5: times this year where they've looked great.
Speaker 1: Speaking of teams that look great at times this year,
Speaker 1: Stone because the Tigers and Titans won, Eels had dropped
Speaker 1: to last and all ladders.
Speaker 4: Who would have all eighteen The Ils have won as
Speaker 4: many games this year as the Tigers and the Titans. Wow,
Speaker 4: that is really kind of come on for a team
Speaker 4: that is a powerhouse club Grand Final in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: wows at the coach on top of that, and then
Speaker 4: when you look at their roster and paper, they should
Speaker 4: be doing better than one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a decent roster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I still think I don't think they'll finished
Speaker 4: last though, Do you think they'll finished last?
Speaker 2: I think they've They've got too good of a team.
Speaker 4: Like of those guys of the teams justling for the
Speaker 4: wooden spoon, I think they're probably by far.
Speaker 2: Got the best.
Speaker 1: Who's just splain that there you going.
Speaker 2: I reckon the Tiger.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm like, yeah, I'm beginning to drink some of
Speaker 4: the Tigers school later. I don't want them to finish last.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's still ten weeks and it's a young
Speaker 4: team and you know it's a long time.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? They need to hasten. It's difficult for
Speaker 1: them to hasten the search for a new head coach
Speaker 1: because Josh had as in origin camp. But do they
Speaker 1: need to get rid along with that paramatta? So they
Speaker 1: actually there's some clarity there or.
Speaker 3: Potentially yeah, because the.
Speaker 5: What are the kind of the players are kind of
Speaker 5: in a bit of Nomad's land at the moment, Aren't
Speaker 5: they like what what is doing?
Speaker 1: And you can't like roster decisions?
Speaker 5: Yeah and yeah, and I think the fans are pretty
Speaker 5: off it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, blast Lunge. He's sort of hovering around trying to
Speaker 1: make it and he's not going to make a decision,
Speaker 1: I think until I know the coaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are your what are your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 1: Well, the Hannah thing makes it difficult, right because they've
Speaker 1: got to wait for him to finish Origin. He's got
Speaker 1: a Cronulla game. Dean Young's obviously now being floated. He
Speaker 1: was the one we missed. We missed one the whole
Speaker 1: time we knew there was one we missed. It was
Speaker 1: Dean Young. So obviously it's Hannae, Royle's and Young. I
Speaker 1: still think it's out of Hannah and Ryles. I still
Speaker 1: think Roles is the one for me, But people keep
Speaker 1: saying that Hanna's got his nose in front.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because if Jason Rawles goes to the Eels,
Speaker 4: does that open up a coaching job for Madge at
Speaker 4: the Storm.
Speaker 1: Well, Roles he's not really. He's sort of an assistant there,
Speaker 1: but he's not really an assistant. I mean there assistance
Speaker 1: to Mark Brennell and Aaron Bellamy and and Roles is
Speaker 1: more of a pathways leadership go down there. He doesn't,
Speaker 1: but he's not technically, I don't think he's got an
Speaker 1: assistant role. So, you know, I don't think it really,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that's what Madge wants
Speaker 1: to do. I think Madge wants to be coaching, right,
Speaker 1: I think Madge wants to be a head coach.
Speaker 3: Ideally, Trent Barrett is totally out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's gone. Yeah, yeah, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if Trent made the cut. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think he missed out. So yeah, it's crucial I keep
Speaker 1: a guy that Blaze to Lungey, you know, because as
Speaker 1: I said, I think they've got some decisions to make
Speaker 1: that roster. It feels like it's a bit old and Blazers.
Speaker 1: Yet still it's a bit it's an aging roster and Blaze,
Speaker 1: so it's crucially they keep him. But the longer they
Speaker 1: wait to put a coach, the more I think there's
Speaker 1: a few club sniff around in the Dragons the Knights.
Speaker 1: The more risk is that maybe those clubs turn his head,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well did they have Is it a money thing
Speaker 4: with him or is it just sort of.
Speaker 2: A future thing.
Speaker 1: So I think it's more a future thing with him.
Speaker 1: I don't think money issue.
Speaker 3: What do you think they do with Gutho? Where do
Speaker 3: you think his future?
Speaker 1: Probably depends what happens with Blaze and they keep.
Speaker 3: I think they're tired.
Speaker 5: I think it's one like their futures are kind of
Speaker 5: linked in that way.
Speaker 1: I think if Blaze stays, then maybe Guff moves. Maybe wait,
Speaker 1: see the Dogs are a bit more settled though, or
Speaker 1: they cheers, but they did, they got touched up a
Speaker 1: little bit of the week. Really good football team. I'm
Speaker 1: really happy for Brandon Smith back and thought he was
Speaker 1: outstanding for the Roosters. Brandon Smith. So this was a
Speaker 1: big game for the Dogs and beat the Roosters earlier
Speaker 1: the year, didn't they There was a chance to sort
Speaker 1: of stand up and show that they're a legit team
Speaker 1: this year, and I thought they got They got pretty dominated.
Speaker 3: To be fair, they really did.
Speaker 5: You know one thing, I really I did love to
Speaker 5: see Brandon Smith killing it. But I think on the
Speaker 5: Buy Around podcast earlier this week. I just loved the
Speaker 5: way that he spoke about the criticism that he's copped
Speaker 5: and he just kind of like owns up to it
Speaker 5: and totally accepts it and takes accountability for his actions.
Speaker 3: And I thought that was really great. So good for
Speaker 3: him for.
Speaker 5: Kind of doing that and then putting in a performance
Speaker 5: which they've obviously.
Speaker 1: I would say, like, I love hearing that form Brandon too,
Speaker 1: but actions speak louder than.
Speaker 5: Totally and that's why he needed to perform.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know Cannby beat them earlier in the year,
Speaker 4: but considering the point that it is at the season,
Speaker 4: the fact that a top four spot was up for
Speaker 4: graps for them, I thought it was a real litmus test.
Speaker 4: And I know they didn't have Critter and I know
Speaker 4: Bronson Cheria was out, but yeah, they were a little
Speaker 4: bit disappointing.
Speaker 1: You in good skeleton.
Speaker 2: Skeleton went went really good.
Speaker 1: Almost killed someone who was almost killed with that tackle.
Speaker 2: That was a power rough night.
Speaker 1: The week people were bluing that four weeks wasn't enough,
Speaker 1: I thought it was okay because you Tracy.
Speaker 5: Tracy was It's on part with the one right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was a fair was a fair whack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: But yeah on on Canterbury, I mean yeah, I felt
Speaker 4: like this was going to be a real test for them.
Speaker 4: Zero pulled the pull the interesting position switch right at
Speaker 4: the death. It was probably been planned all week with
Speaker 4: Burden going into the centers. It was interesting because a
Speaker 4: lot of people still think that center is Burden's best position.
Speaker 4: I was one of those people. But after watching that
Speaker 4: and yeah, no it's not going and maybe it is
Speaker 4: in the long term, but until they have a better
Speaker 4: option in the halves and Burden, who's all of a
Speaker 4: sudden found his feet and has been paying some really
Speaker 4: good footy.
Speaker 2: It was a very.
Speaker 4: Weird decision to make because I really feel like it
Speaker 4: blunted their attack. And then that left side where Burton
Speaker 4: was with kickout sort of got very little quality ball
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 2: Think that didn't help them as well.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Matt Burton is is definitely a half in
Speaker 4: my opinion now, at least until they find a better option.
Speaker 3: So they haven't made final since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: It's too long.
Speaker 4: I know, I have to go back and check that,
Speaker 4: so I won't be Yeah, even.
Speaker 5: Just that they've missed a chance to go into the
Speaker 5: top four that they are in the position to compete
Speaker 5: for top four spot is yep.
Speaker 1: That was when the great Man des was there, wasn't sixteen? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: great man. Let's move on the state of origin. There's
Speaker 1: been a bit of a feisty build up, a little
Speaker 1: bit feisty.
Speaker 4: Has you found yourself with a sick of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well Billy and I haven't spoken to Billy since.
Speaker 3: But imagine I didn't text you.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't text me, You didn't text me back.
Speaker 1: He brushed me. Mad Madge sort of had a go,
Speaker 1: did he. It's very unlock mad He's.
Speaker 2: Very Actually know what Madge meant when he was.
Speaker 1: Miles It was a billy.
Speaker 2: It was a billy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, basically for those who have been off the air,
Speaker 1: Queen's Queen's living in glasshouses only. The criticism of Joseph
Speaker 1: sil you know, and got stirred up a little bit
Speaker 1: and Billy's brushed it, hasn't responded, hasn't reacted, very mature
Speaker 1: of Billy, were very ripped in and the war of
Speaker 1: words going on. They will go after Brishwalsh again. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear.
Speaker 5: Or I think so. I think, well not obviously to
Speaker 5: take his head off. Yeah, but obviously you have to
Speaker 5: target the most electric player, right, he has a huge
Speaker 5: influence on the results. Of course he's going to cop
Speaker 5: a bit of attention. I love this thought.
Speaker 3: Wow, at least looks like something.
Speaker 4: Otherwise have been a pretty sort of stale, very polite,
Speaker 4: so polite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's been good. No major injuries, Leam Martin
Speaker 1: and I okay, you know obviously the games at the MCG,
Speaker 1: big crowd down there. Who you tippy, what do you got?
Speaker 2: What you ask us every tirement you expect.
Speaker 3: I think team players on the field different.
Speaker 5: I don't like hearing you know what an amazing Queensland
Speaker 5: performance it was, because I just think in game one,
Speaker 5: because I just think, well, of course it's easy to
Speaker 5: be amazing when you're.
Speaker 3: Down to man, I really think I think, yeah.
Speaker 5: But no, I think it's I think it's the Blues.
Speaker 5: I think they've made changes that make sense. I didn't
Speaker 5: I thought Burton should have been there because I think
Speaker 5: that he's kind of waited, and you know, he's been
Speaker 5: that eighteen spand for quite a while, so I thought
Speaker 5: he should have been there in some capacity. But otherwise,
Speaker 5: I think all the changes that have been made make sense.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see Latrelle on this stage again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's going to be a cracker y.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I tend to agree.
Speaker 4: I think in terms of the changes that he's made,
Speaker 4: has made the right changes.
Speaker 2: I think Mitch Moses will be.
Speaker 4: Crucial for what you know, for the outcome for the Blues,
Speaker 4: the trill Mitchell as well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm review.
Speaker 4: I would have thought, you know, Burden's probably if I
Speaker 4: wanted a utility on their bench, I probably would have
Speaker 4: gone burdened. But I don't think kind of what's like,
Speaker 4: kind of what's is not going to let anyone down, right,
Speaker 4: you get played, you can cover just about every position
Speaker 4: in the back line. I never I don't really understand
Speaker 4: the criticism that pain hass gets about sort of not
Speaker 4: you know, living up to expectations at Origin there will.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so good at club level. He's so
Speaker 1: dominant a club level. Yeah, I just I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I can't remember Pain ever standing out in the State
Speaker 1: of Origin game. I can't remember watching the State of
Speaker 1: Origin game. Man, He's been good tonight, He's always solid,
Speaker 1: always does his job. But it's those guys some guys
Speaker 1: are they get measured that the bar is high for
Speaker 1: them because they're so good in club clubland. When they
Speaker 1: don't when they don't know, origin's harder. But that's what
Speaker 1: really good Origin plays do, right, They elevate their game
Speaker 1: when they play State of Origin. And I just I
Speaker 1: just can't remember Pain ever. He's always been good. He's
Speaker 1: never really been great, he's never been poor, he's just
Speaker 1: been good.
Speaker 5: He's just been so you would love to see him
Speaker 5: run through queens What.
Speaker 2: Are we saying?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because even though like you see Painhass
Speaker 4: in person, he's this big like dude, but he's also
Speaker 4: quite kind of and you know, I wonder when people say, oh,
Speaker 4: you want to see more from him, it's that sort
Speaker 4: of him being that kind of enforesight, that an aggressive
Speaker 4: player who's and he's just not that he's not that
Speaker 4: kind of player. I'm expensive on you. He's got no like,
Speaker 4: no issue with that. But yeah, maybe it has more
Speaker 4: of the fact to do that we haven't necessarily had
Speaker 4: a forward pack as like as a as a whole
Speaker 4: rather than an individual sort of dominate Queensland for a
Speaker 4: very long time. So I mean, I think guys adding
Speaker 4: people like Spence to that pack helps, but I still, yeah,
Speaker 4: if I'm I don't necessarily disagree that we're probably missing
Speaker 4: another sort of real like hard as Nawls Mongol type
Speaker 4: and force in.
Speaker 3: The park prediction by how much? I think eight just
Speaker 3: what's in.
Speaker 1: I think we keep talking about how new sets down
Speaker 1: QUEENSWN the twelve players. We're also forgetting Responsh and he
Speaker 1: played seven minutes and he is dynamite, so you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think that'll be the difference. I think
Speaker 1: Resposhill play eighty and he'll be made again. What about
Speaker 1: the women's game, the women's State of Always game, I'm
Speaker 1: excited about this has been a great series.
Speaker 5: It actually has been a great series. So it's yes,
Speaker 5: it's in Towns on Thursday night. It is expected to
Speaker 5: be a sellout, but it hasn't officially sold out yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, so get your tickets.
Speaker 3: Definitely on track.
Speaker 5: This was a great gal Yeah, this is absolutely It
Speaker 5: was so tense. This was a very This was just
Speaker 5: a classic origin game. Obviously, New South Wales lost. I
Speaker 5: think it was twelve thirteen. Get a result in this
Speaker 5: one in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago. So Lauren
Speaker 5: Brown Queensland hooker slotted just a great field goal. I
Speaker 5: don't know how the ball bounced the ground was it
Speaker 5: was a horrendous reign. But yeah, she sealed the result
Speaker 5: for Queensland and sent this to a decider, which is
Speaker 5: super exciting considering it's the first time I've had three games,
Speaker 5: so this will be We're about to see the field
Speaker 5: goal here.
Speaker 1: The standards really good. I'll tell you what was really good.
Speaker 1: What's done in the nine in women's game two?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the standard that yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I know. It was a great result for the girls.
Speaker 2: No, it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you can see the investment.
Speaker 5: You can actually see the return on investment is starting
Speaker 5: to show some of these Yeah, some of the players
Speaker 5: are just incredible.
Speaker 3: Some of the girls coming through.
Speaker 5: Casey Ray so she was the half back for New
Speaker 5: South Wales in the other night.
Speaker 3: So she's niece of Glenn.
Speaker 1: Brilliant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just some outstanding talent coming through. I can't wait
Speaker 5: to see them in the Anner or w this year.
Speaker 5: But then the potentially hopefully they get their debuts this year,
Speaker 5: especially well they will in the next couple of years anyway.
Speaker 5: But so no change for the Blues, but the Maroons
Speaker 5: have Ciena la Fipo, so she has been ruled out
Speaker 5: with PCL after game two, and then she was yeah,
Speaker 5: and then Destiny Brill so she was a hooker. She
Speaker 5: came off the bench and she had suffered.
Speaker 3: A calf injury in the last couple of days. So
Speaker 3: she's out three or four weeks.
Speaker 1: Underdog. She had a game decimated by injury. Back to
Speaker 1: the wall.
Speaker 2: They're playing at home, exactly ground advantage.
Speaker 3: Last year they did there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we are on one. Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: are you thinking. I think it's going to.
Speaker 3: I think win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I impartial, and that I am being impartial. I
Speaker 5: think there's been just a consistent team the Yeah, they
Speaker 5: lost by field goal in Game two, and they should
Speaker 5: have been all over that because Louren Brown was going
Speaker 5: to be the girl to kick it if there was
Speaker 5: going to be anyone.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they'll make that same mistake.
Speaker 1: What do you reckon?
Speaker 4: I think that the Blues were really unlucky in that
Speaker 4: second game. I feel like they were probably the better
Speaker 4: They're probably being the better team through both games of
Speaker 4: this series.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for me, it's the Blues.
Speaker 4: I reckon by six.
Speaker 1: Points a Queens and wins. Another thriller, field thriller. Maybe
Speaker 1: another field goal in it too, it's another thriller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it definitely be another type contest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when does a women's comp start? July and July?
Speaker 5: Okay, in the they're in the pre season and there's
Speaker 5: only nine rounds again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then.
Speaker 5: Next year it goes to twelve teams and then so
Speaker 5: it'll be longer again. Yeah, so we're growing.
Speaker 3: But it's good.
Speaker 5: I'm glad they're doing it slowly because then we actually
Speaker 5: see quality games.
Speaker 1: That's fair cool. Okay, what are you watching this week?
Speaker 1: Who're going to start with? Who wants to get first?
Speaker 1: Love your thoughts? Let's I love this shot. So we
Speaker 1: we've only just discovered this show.
Speaker 5: They just discovered it the boys, So I think it's
Speaker 5: on Is it on Prime?
Speaker 3: I think it's on Brime? So it is about Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
Speaker 5: I didn't know this existed, but we started watching it
Speaker 5: over the weekend, and so it's about kind of like
Speaker 5: a vigilante group of civilians who are trying to get
Speaker 5: revenge or trying to stop these superheroes that live in public.
Speaker 5: They were out and about. They're Superstar of the World.
Speaker 5: But they are badly behaved.
Speaker 1: That's all of them, all them, just most of them.
Speaker 3: They're evil.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So they're getting one back against the superheroes and then
Speaker 5: so essentially fighting against people who have crazy.
Speaker 1: Powers just to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm only about four or five episodes I think
Speaker 5: into season one, but I have loved it.
Speaker 3: It's like a dark comedy. It's quite very good show,
Speaker 3: but loving it.
Speaker 2: I'm watching Eric at the moment.
Speaker 4: So it's sort of like a missing person's Is it
Speaker 4: a crime thriller mystery type thing that involves a puppet
Speaker 4: that comes to life?
Speaker 3: Is it like a horror a bit of a thriller?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like a horror Chucky.
Speaker 1: Murder the female doll?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's a female doll? Aout? This is going to
Speaker 2: annoy me or something?
Speaker 1: Doesn't?
Speaker 3: Hang on, I'm going to google and take about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've seen this this on Netflix here, isn't it?
Speaker 1: It's apparently good too.
Speaker 2: It is going to cumber Batch, Benedicts the great names.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a Puppets television in this, Yes, so the
Speaker 4: puppet is not as murderous as Chucky. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not Annabel. He's like a figment of the kid's imagination.
Speaker 1: So people out there don't know about Chucky because he's
Speaker 1: quite old. Yeah, it's from my time, surprise, you guys
Speaker 1: know about it.
Speaker 5: I think my cousin actually maybe watching when I was
Speaker 5: a kid.
Speaker 3: Yea and pet cemetery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that looks good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's a good storyline, well written.
Speaker 1: You guys are gone with pretty graphic and violent shows.
Speaker 1: I'm going with a real, real, this is real. Well
Speaker 1: actually this wasn't my choice, my wife, but what Palm
Speaker 1: Royale together? It's on.
Speaker 3: I wanted to.
Speaker 1: It's got Christine Chris, Christine Wig. Is it Christian Week? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm sort of we're sort of that far into it.
Speaker 1: We can't I can't stop, I can't leave. But we've
Speaker 1: been watching this for a couple of weeks now. We
Speaker 1: watched like an episode and the kids are going to
Speaker 1: bed it looks and watch it.
Speaker 2: Watch.
Speaker 1: It's about this woman, Kristin Wig, who goes to I
Speaker 1: think it's Palm Springs and wants to be part of
Speaker 1: the elite in Palm Springs. So it's about what she
Speaker 1: does to be part of the elite. Yeah, so yeah
Speaker 1: she is. Yeah, so she's quite funny. It's quite It's
Speaker 1: it's all right. It's not bad if you're looking for something,
Speaker 1: doesn't challenge the mind too much and you just want
Speaker 1: to sit there and I do love that drift away.
Speaker 3: Look at me when you said that, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: It's okay. It's actually got a really good cast. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of famous people in this in this movie movie.
Speaker 1: Sorry is that? Lord? Yeah, it's I can't remember what
Speaker 1: year it said. You asked me too many questions. I
Speaker 1: haven't really watched that. Yeah, I sort of switched off
Speaker 1: a bit. But you can watch it without.
Speaker 2: But you're watching it.
Speaker 1: The wife and I we don't watch too many shows together.
Speaker 1: We're watching this one together.
Speaker 3: So you've got to find one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Leslie Bibb who cast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad, it's not bad. It's okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's a good note to end on one for you,
Speaker 1: you and the wife to send and watch together if
Speaker 1: you feel like it will you and your husband. You're
Speaker 1: female listener, Thanks for joining us, and good luck Queensland.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.