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Speaker 1: Welcome to n R three sixty Rugby League from every angle,

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Speaker 1: joining me again the Great Gordon twerro Let's bring the

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Speaker 1: Journey's in Poor Crawley and Jean Richie, and we have

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Speaker 1: breaking news. Adam O'Brien, the coach of the Newcastle Knights,

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Speaker 1: set to be sacked tonight in a board meeting in Newcastle.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on this do you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Just to clarify it, Breath, it's a mutual agreement. He's cooked,

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Speaker 3: Adam O'Brien. That's what he's telling the club. It was

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Speaker 3: a football committee meeting with a few board members present.

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Speaker 3: It has to be ratified at a full board meeting

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Speaker 3: on Thursday. The pay it will be between three hundred

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Speaker 3: to five hundred thousand. Isaac Moses was at the meeting

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Speaker 3: his manager and the replacement coach is to be confirmed.

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Speaker 3: It will be a process, but it seems quite clear

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Speaker 3: that Blake Green will be the man, another Isaac Moses client.

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Speaker 4: So Adam O'Brien's tenure looks like it's done.

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Speaker 3: Crawls provided the full board sign of which clearly they will.

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Speaker 3: So the process is expected to take us back where

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Speaker 3: we thought it would end three or four weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: That's what concerns me about what's happening at the Knights

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Speaker 3: at the moment. Isaac Moses has gone in there with

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Speaker 3: one client today and we will emerge with another client

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Speaker 3: taking over the job. Blake Green, by all reports, has

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Speaker 3: a great relationship with the players at Newcastle. He's obviously

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Speaker 3: very well liked. But the experience is the question. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of experience coaches out there in a position

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Speaker 3: to take this job, and I just hope the Knights

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Speaker 3: do go through the process before they land on.

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Speaker 2: Their man, Gordy Adam O'Brien. Is it the right decision

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 5: Well, you'd have to be in there closer and you know,

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Speaker 5: have your ear to the ground. I thought a couple

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Speaker 5: of years ago they were struggling and they went on

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Speaker 5: they great run. This year, they've been really good defensively

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Speaker 5: until the last five weeks. So whether they've given up,

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Speaker 5: I know there's been injuries. I just went through it

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Speaker 5: last night with Desi Hasler, So it's never a good

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Speaker 5: time to let a coach go, but I think he's

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Speaker 5: had a chance to get that roster to, you know,

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Speaker 5: where they needed to be.

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Speaker 1: He spoke about the details just there but what's happened today?

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Speaker 2: Why has it been accelerated?

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Speaker 1: We've heard Murmur's rumors for quite a while and now

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Speaker 1: I've spoke to a few Genis as early as this

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Speaker 1: morning and reports that Pari was denying it. What's happened

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Speaker 1: in the last few hours that's sped this up.

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Speaker 4: Look, they've denied it.

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Speaker 3: Like the breakthrough, there's clearly something going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they've decided to place Billy Buggers with

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Speaker 3: the media. Look, there is a suggestion to that Adam

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Speaker 3: O'Brien has lost the dressing room. Yeah, it's probably not

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Speaker 3: the time nor the place to go pointing fingers and

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Speaker 3: bloke's just lost his job. But certainly the speculation is

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Speaker 3: there was his tenure success. He's been there since twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one hundred and forty three games, sixty two wins.

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Speaker 4: For a forty three percent strike weight. That success going

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Speaker 4: back to be debate going back.

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Speaker 2: Has he conceded, conceited defeat? He was he pushed? Was

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Speaker 2: he put his head? I think both.

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Speaker 3: He was As I said before, I think he was

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Speaker 3: cooked emotionally and mentally, and just an speculation big club everything,

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Speaker 3: Rugby League town. He's won one finals game in his

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Speaker 3: tenure there, so clearly thinks of the pressure's got to Crews.

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Speaker 5: Made a good point, don't you go out now and

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Speaker 5: put it to tender and see who was prepared.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, Gordy, because we'll talk a bit

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Speaker 1: more about Blake Green. But why didn't it work? Let's

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Speaker 1: let's just quickly look at this. Why didn't it work

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Speaker 1: with Adam O'Brien at Newcastle? Why didn't they reach the

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Speaker 1: heights that were expected? And they've done okay, Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: they've done okay, they've made their finals. They've only won

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Speaker 1: one final, I believe, since he's been there. But where

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Speaker 1: did he get it wrong or where did it go wrong?

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Speaker 3: There was huge anticipation when he took the job. He'd

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Speaker 3: been very successful working with Craig Bellamy in Melbourne and

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Speaker 3: he won a premiership with Trent Robinson at the Roosters,

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Speaker 3: and there was huge expectations. I think he struggled to

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Speaker 3: early times. I think the Knights have made some pretty

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Speaker 3: poor choices along the way. When it comes to the

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Speaker 3: I just say a lot of young coaches you look

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Speaker 3: praise Gus, But Gus and his help in making life

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Speaker 3: the Tigers with Benji Marshall, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He takes the bullets, He takes the pressure off, He

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Speaker 3: gets things working. If you've got an experience coach like Bennett,

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Speaker 3: he can kind of move around, mate, and he knows

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Speaker 3: what to do. He's been around the game that long.

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Speaker 3: He can get the job done. But at Newcastle, I

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Speaker 3: just feel that they were coming out of a really

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Speaker 3: tough period and I just feel that the club didn't

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Speaker 3: have enough structure around him to make it an easy transition.

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Speaker 4: Did he ever have a squad to be top four?

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Speaker 2: I debate that. I don't think he did, because.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years here he had a fair squad,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he was ever in a position.

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Speaker 2: So that the squad was there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Gordy they limpd in four times in one

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Speaker 3: one game, so I'm not doubting that.

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Speaker 2: It is debatable. It is debatable.

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Speaker 3: It goes back to a lot of their recruitment made.

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Speaker 3: They paid top dollar for some and we don't have

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Speaker 3: to mention names, but for some questionable wuys, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. There was players that went there on

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Speaker 3: too much money and if you're going to do that,

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Speaker 3: dog well, of course you're not going to get a

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Speaker 1: And I think, with all due respect Adam, he's done

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Speaker 1: a good job there. He just hasn't got them where

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Speaker 1: they wanted to get to. And maybe he's had enough

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Speaker 1: time now to do that. So he's been a successful

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Speaker 1: really got closed. But I wouldn't say it's been.

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Speaker 3: A and in fairness this year too, Like losing Calen Ponger,

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Speaker 3: it's just such a huge loss for that team. Like

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Speaker 3: when he's on the field, they're a chance of beating everyone.

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Speaker 3: He just couldn't sell on his halves either. It was

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Speaker 3: He just never found that combination which you need to

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Speaker 1: Is it a hard club to coach? It's a one

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Speaker 1: team town. They're very passionate, But I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: that's so much the problem.

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Speaker 2: It can add to it.

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Speaker 1: But even with the leadership there and the people running

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Speaker 1: place to coach. Okay, look at the crowds, the facilities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's always a fair roster there all. Bet we've just

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Speaker 3: But I think of all the clubs to be coaching

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Speaker 3: at Newcastle, I would think would be a plum job.

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Speaker 1: There's politics there in the past or anything. Context at

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Speaker 1: every clip has to be fair.

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Speaker 3: I think as a club, like we talk about different

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Speaker 3: clubs and their DNA and you know, you can you

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Speaker 3: can almost pick what a club where they find their success.

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Speaker 3: I think at Newcastle in the early days, they built

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Speaker 3: themselves as the as the people's team. You know, a

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Speaker 3: They they had systems set up to make sure local

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Speaker 3: think that's where they need to go back to to

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Speaker 1: So Okay, so's Blake Green the right man for the

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Speaker 1: job now you said it.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting he's.

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Speaker 1: Been the assistant so he's been working underneath Adam, same

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Speaker 1: manager as you mentioned, and now we're hearing he's going

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Speaker 1: to get the job. Have they interviewed other coaches? Are

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Speaker 1: they going to interview other coaches? Has this been lined

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Speaker 1: up for quite a while?

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Speaker 2: Now? What the word?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: Well, look we all hear what's going on. And for

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Speaker 3: weeks now, Blake Green's name has been the name that

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Speaker 3: everyone's been speaking about at that club. They are saying

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Speaker 3: now they're going to go through a process. Well, let's

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Speaker 3: go through the process here. Who are the options? Brad

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Speaker 3: Arthur's over in England at Leeds? Is it going particularly well?

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Speaker 3: Willie Peters is over at Hull going particularly well? You've

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Speaker 3: got other young coaches around the game. They've missed out

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Speaker 3: on Josh Hannay now like he's gone. That may have

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Speaker 3: forced him to make the move his They might want

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Speaker 2: But is he the right man?

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Speaker 3: We don't know enough about him as a coach, Braith,

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Speaker 3: because he's been in that system up at Newcastle.

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Speaker 2: But that's it.

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Speaker 3: What is the attack coach up there?

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 5: They haven't has too much experience not to go through

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Speaker 5: a process. I think the Knights with their fans and

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Speaker 5: did that on 'brien when he took on the fans

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Speaker 2: You reckon that play.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it helped. I don't think it helped.

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Speaker 3: It certainly didn't help. I think there's been periods along

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Speaker 3: hope that he'd change it few things, And that was

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Speaker 3: certainly one of the bigger mistakes that he made where

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Speaker 3: he basically said the fans don't know anything, and the

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Speaker 3: following morning he had to come out and apologize, like

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Speaker 3: if Newcastle Rugby League fans know one thing.

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Speaker 1: The elephant in the room is Calen Ponger. Now you

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Speaker 1: know they signed him on big money. For a long time,

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Speaker 1: he's been there, Rumors always circuling, circulating, sorry about whether

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Speaker 1: he's going to stay or go, and you know it's

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Speaker 1: unsetly to say the least, what do we think they

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Speaker 1: should do with Kaitlin and what do we think Kaitlin's going.

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Speaker 2: To do here?

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Speaker 1: Does he have any clauses in his contracts or anything

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Speaker 1: that would allow him to move on if Adam's not there.

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Speaker 2: Do we know anything about that?

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you a question, both, is it time and

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Speaker 3: I'm just throwing this out there that with a new

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Speaker 3: coach and we believe it will be Blake Green, is

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Speaker 3: it time for Kaylen Ponger to move along? Give hang on,

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Speaker 3: let me finish. Let blake I said, no, you want

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Speaker 3: him to stay though? Yeah, yeah, I'm saying though, let

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Speaker 3: Blake Green have some roomed moving his cellar. Okay, probably

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Speaker 3: one point four minutes and then Blake Green can go

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Speaker 3: out and maybe mold a roster.

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Speaker 1: Which is but it's him Dylan Brown at one point

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Speaker 1: four a year for ten years.

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Speaker 2: You need Kaylen there with him, at least for the

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Speaker 2: first That's the problem though, Both.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a Ponger and you can't build a.

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Speaker 2: Better brown, Brown, you just can't. You may as well

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Speaker 2: just say it's over now.

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Speaker 1: It has to be Calen's ten times to play in

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Speaker 1: the Brown.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem. The problem for Newcastle moving forward is

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Speaker 3: that they have got Kaylen and they have got Dylan Brown,

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Speaker 3: Right But unless, like Dog said, one was to leave

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Speaker 3: So it's not good enough now under Adam O'Brien and

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Speaker 5: If it's a coach's job, he should be coaching. The

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Speaker 3: Got to put a structure in place. Like all Craig

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Speaker 3: We've got Sulon up there, who he knows what he

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Speaker 4: It's his you know what's in the line.

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Speaker 2: When's all this going to be official?

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Speaker 3: They want to look after him too, break they do.

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Speaker 4: They've got a lot of time for him. There'll be

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Speaker 4: no haggling over the money.

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Speaker 3: As I said before three to five hundred, they'll come

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Speaker 1: I'd be news in Newcastle a massive twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: Thoughts on this guy, well, there's two issues for mining.

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Speaker 3: There's the Brandon Smith situation with the police chargers that

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Speaker 3: But does it become a moral issue for the Roosters

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that cruse.

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Speaker 1: Firstly, I want to touch on the no stand down.

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Speaker 5: Well, if we had all the information Wayne Bennett, being

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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the lawyer's statement today Brandon Smith.

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Speaker 1: Now allegation has been brought to my t that he

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Speaker 2: Off in any way whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Smith Lloyd I spoke to him today. That's who

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Speaker 3: They want more information about. It's not quite as easy

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Speaker 1: Okay, a lot to unpack here, So we're going to

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Speaker 1: it is alleged that Brandon Smith supplied drugs to his

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Speaker 2: In the year.

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Speaker 1: As far as we know, they simply attended the golf

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Speaker 2: Boys thoughts on this, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, if we're talking about the drugs chargers, so what

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Speaker 3: Brandon was asked to help find someone to supply drugs. Again.

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Speaker 3: I've spoken to Wayne about it, and they are letting

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't cross that line. I think the NRL's

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Speaker 3: Brandon wasn't in Queensland physically either. I think that's a

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Speaker 3: very important point to make. The allegation is that he

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Speaker 1: See how Sidney and his lawyers don't seem too worried

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, you can tell someone brief. You're allowed to

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Speaker 3: Surely if you're playing first grade, wouldn't every young kid

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Speaker 5: And say on playing, I'm coming back in two weeks.

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it depends on what we said.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you if you're not starting, and then you

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Speaker 5: I don't think so me personally, if you're backing yourself

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Speaker 3: And as long as there's not a like a planning

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Speaker 3: But Fainness to the blank through what we know right now,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Roosters chairman Nik Politis outlined his views on elicted drug

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Speaker 1: Our stance is zero tolerance. We are very strong on it.

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Speaker 1: other Roosters players, given Nick's zero tolerance policy when it

439
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: comes to drug use, what has the response been from

440
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: the Roosters and what could potentially happen here.

441
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 3: Well, the response they have been very quiet. You know,

442
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: there's been an indication that Nick will has said that

443
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: the club is treating this very seriously and as they should.

444
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 3: I'd imagine around the game right now, Braith, let's not

445
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 3: kid ourselves. Given Nick's previous comments and some that could

446
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: be seen as a bit of a knock on how

447
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 3: other clubs have him hand, there is a lot of

448
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: interest out there right now to see how the Roosters

449
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: handle it, because regardless if charges are laid or not,

450
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: the Roosters have unwittingly been brought into this. They've had

451
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 3: Victor's name mentioned in the police report. They're up there

452
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: away from home. There certainly has to be honest conversations,

453
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: and you would imagine if they get to the bottom

454
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Speaker 3: of it, well, I guess we wait and see what

455
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: comes out of it. But yeah, I reckon around the game,

456
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: people are watching with interest. They've got a lot of

457
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: heavy hitters, the Roosters, so I'm sure they are monitoring

458
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: every syllable breath in terms of anyone saying anything that

459
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Speaker 3: might be remotely litigious.

460
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

461
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: Everybody says Nick a man of his words, So he'll

462
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: back what he says.

463
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Speaker 3: He'll back what he says absolutely, but no one's done

464
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: that just yet. No no one has been called snored

465
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: in cocaine, so we haven't reached that situation yet, and

466
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: God permid that we do. Just on Brandon Smith, I

467
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: think it's important to say, two guys, it's vitally important

468
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: that no try was scored, so there was no collection

469
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: of money, so you know, whatever allegations have been made,

470
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: nothing came of it. Ultimately, do you think.

471
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: That the system needs fixing in terms of when naming

472
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Speaker 1: teams when teams are out injured. You know, we looked

473
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: at it today. We looked at the NFL protocols. It's

474
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot more farer than what the NL one is,

475
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: but it's also quite similar.

476
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Speaker 2: It's just you or whatever they are.

477
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: I guess the challenge for rugby league at the moment

478
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: is looking after the credibility of the game. And you know,

479
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 3: you guys spoke about last night that the betting investigation

480
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: now involving the Panthers and the and the Bulldogs game right,

481
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: and the fact that punters out there have found out

482
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: inside information about all the Panthers being stood down this

483
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: weekend and there's been a plunge on the Bulldogs and

484
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: the odds have completely switched. And this is a problem

485
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: the game has at the moment. Like over in American sport,

486
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: it's not perfect and there's always going to be late changes,

487
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: but they do have a very clear there has to

488
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: be clarifications about player injuries. They have to keep rival clubs,

489
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: the fans, the media.

490
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Speaker 2: Everyone game.

491
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Speaker 5: If you look at Rees Walsh on the weekend, his past,

492
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 5: there would have been like ramifications. It would have been

493
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: that's that's another he passes the ball, but he wouldn't

494
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: have had any.

495
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 3: And the problem for the game is now people are

496
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: going to say, well, the coach, it shouldn't be the

497
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: coach's responsibility or shouldn't be the club's responsibility to let

498
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Speaker 3: their opposition know of injuries that they may have or

499
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: weaknesses that may have in their team. But the problem

500
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: with the game at the moment is that the NRL

501
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: is now taking I think it's around fifty million dollars

502
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: annually from wagering agreements, right, So if we're going to

503
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: take that money, surely we've got to have a little

504
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: bit more transparency there, and you've got to look after

505
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 3: the integrity of the game when it comes to injuries.

506
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: And all that injury stuff. So if you're on an

507
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: injured list, you can't play that.

508
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: Because no matter, we've jumped into bed with the betting agency.

509
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: So surely you've got to put systems in place. Like

510
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: I understand why the coaches may not want it, but

511
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: if you want to take the money, you've got to

512
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Speaker 3: do it.

513
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Speaker 1: One thing I was thinking today is maybe name the team,

514
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's an hour before the game.

515
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Speaker 2: You got to name the team.

516
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Name it the day before and then have a nine

517
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: eighth man if there's an injury in the warm up,

518
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: because all you're really covering from, yeah, whenever it may be,

519
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: carry an extra one even but name the team, you know,

520
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours before the game. So

521
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Speaker 1: if there are players who's playing on Tuesday, they do.

522
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: But they don't always tell us. I remember a few

523
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: weeks ago Lachlan Galvin had his hand injury and Gus

524
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: was on another program and he gave no clear indication.

525
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: And that's the thing out there, and yet people are

526
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: betting on the on the field straight after the previous week.

527
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Speaker 2: I'll be made to start and went and sat on

528
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Speaker 2: the bench. Yes, and Broncos took a fin at that at.

529
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Speaker 3: Four o'clock Tuesday team announcement break. You're spot on there.

530
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: That's very antiquated, you know. You know that goes right

531
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: back to the days when we had Big League It

532
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: was at four o'clock so the Big League program could

533
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: come out on the Wednesday. It was the only reason

534
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: we've had four o'clock Tuesday, and we've had it ever

535
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: since the Big league's long gone. But you're right, what

536
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: is the reason now? But medium, why can we put

537
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: it back a bit later in the winter. But going

538
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: back to the clarity around injuries and that like that,

539
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: they're betting on this this Bulldog's Panthers game way before

540
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: the teams are even named. So again, you've got to

541
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: go back and you're never going to have a perfect system,

542
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 3: but you've got to have something better than what we've got.

543
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: What it does, too, is that a few players in

544
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: and amongst all that have done what Brandan Smith has

545
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: done and told their main information that should they shouldn't have,

546
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: but they did, you know what I mean.

547
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: So it happens, and.

548
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 3: This is like not just in the NRL, but even

549
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: some of the lower grades.

550
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: There's been all.

551
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: These rumors for years and years and years about people

552
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: getting early information.

553
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: All right to finish, the matter is now before the courts,

554
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: and Smith's lawyer Paul McGirr has said that he will

555
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: contest the charges and the Roosters put out us this afternoon,

556
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: staying the club will be making no further comment until

557
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: the conclusion of the legal process.

558
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: Let's take a.

559
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Look at the ins and outs around twenty six Thanks

560
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: to sports Bet and Panthers to rest only sixteen.

561
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: Players this week for the Melbourne Storm.

562
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Garlic in for Grant, Nelson returns, Sanan Smith replaces Walker

563
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: Radley has been named Tamor lay In Savage unfortunate for

564
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: him out for the season for the Raiders.

565
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: That's devastating for him and their team.

566
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: And Reynolds's name on the extended bench for the Broncos.

567
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Like the Panthers, they're resting everyone. Is this the right call?

568
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: I think it is if they want to have a

569
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: shot at the title. The only thing that's going to

570
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: stop on I think is fatigue. I think they've shown

571
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 5: in the last two weeks. Golden Point, Golden Point Melbourne Storm.

572
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 5: The Harry Grant to hitting the upright the other day.

573
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 5: I think that they know if they get it right

574
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: in the big stage, that they can murry every side.

575
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: Crolls.

576
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: You've just spoken about integrity resting sixteen players. Is that

577
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: showing integrity? I think it's competition, Gordon. I know what

578
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: you're going to say. The bigger picture is winning the premiership,

579
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: so I thoroughly agree with that. Having said that, I

580
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: just wonder whether sixteen players is good for the game.

581
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: Is it good for the fans, is it good for

582
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: the broadcasters? Does it set a good example? I don't

583
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: think it does. Resting one or two I can live

584
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: with sixteen. Let's admit it's taking the piss.

585
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: He would be happy Bulldogs fans and Panthers.

586
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: And they're going to play the Bulldogs into just before

587
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: the falling, say finals opponent a leg.

588
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 5: Out everybody block when straight after Origin they went from

589
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: Perth to New Zealand they didn't take seven didn't they

590
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: go over there?

591
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: And well they're not breaking any rules, that's the thing,

592
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: you know. And I think as Gordon mentioned there, like

593
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: the Panthers in the last two weeks, despite going down,

594
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: have pushed the unbelievable leading contenders right to the wire.

595
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: They know, regardless of where they finished, they've got the

596
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: fire power if they're fresh to win the comp And

597
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: the fact is right those two losses, they would need

598
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: everything to go their way now to finish top four.

599
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: They're better off doing what they do. They go into

600
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Speaker 3: the finals with their their guns fresh.

601
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Speaker 1: Every extremely smart is not rolling.

602
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: They're not wrong, they're.

603
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Actually, we don't give a ship about this week. Yes,

604
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: we're going to feel a reserve of the longest independ

605
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: with DNA that we know, the DNA, that's the DNA

606
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: that has been so damn competitive for four five years.

607
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: DNA is winning a competition. Like you said and.

608
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: Break, you could still name a reasonably strong football side,

609
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: imagine themselves dog to win the comp They're doing everything

610
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: in their power.

611
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: Want to do it.

612
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: If you're comfortable with where you are on the ladder,

613
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: you get everybody fit for round one of the finals.

614
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: It's more important.

615
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: Even if they win their next two games, mate, they

616
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: need the teams above them at the bottom of the

617
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: four to lose their two games then to jump over them.

618
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: So what's the.

619
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Speaker 3: Different Hypothetically if the dogs rolling by forty Hypothetically, is

620
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: that good for our game, Game of the Finals. I'll

621
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Speaker 3: be surprised that the Dogs do win by good for

622
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: the game you talk about the Pendrith do your name, mate?

623
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: No matter who they put on the park, they aim

624
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: ut dog.

625
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: Was it good for Sirs to win by forty?

626
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Last week they won by forty against the side that

627
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: had injuries. This is a side that has decided it's

628
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: an opportunity to No team is.

629
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Speaker 1: Everone from outside of the four and they are mixing

630
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: it up, changing their approach and why not.

631
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: You're really upset about this door? Are you going to

632
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: be all right?

633
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: No, I just don't like it. And look, Ivan's got

634
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: every right to do it.

635
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: And I'm sure I'll probably get hammered on social media,

636
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: but I think sixteen players, as I said, it is

637
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: taking the Mickey paramana.

638
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: All right? Stick around journos. The funds were certain.

639
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: This Sunday is Ossie Oscar Fiastri looks to extend his lead.

640
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Speaker 1: The Dutch Grand Prix is live on Channel five

641
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Speaker 2: Do