WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 16 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry Waa shaw I got for you tonight, No soooks,

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<v Speaker 1>no lefties, and a very special guest towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. But first, Tanny Plipasik. She may well

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<v Speaker 1>end up costing the Labor Party it's majority and a

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<v Speaker 1>very significant chunk of that from the Northern Territory. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain why, as two seats are now well and truly

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<v Speaker 1>in play. Giggles, Miles is out and about today trying

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<v Speaker 1>to well, I suppose give himself some confidence and claims

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<v Speaker 1>that Labor will win or can wein the upcoming state election?

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<v Speaker 1>Please please no? And I mentioned that special guest. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful Annalys Nielson joining us with a big brain

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and she'll be joining us about not just

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<v Speaker 1>fifty days to go in the election, but obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>events in the past twenty four hours. Now you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm a Trump fan. I copy it from all

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<v Speaker 1>sides like you probably do if you are as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But can I tell you why I'm a real Trump

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<v Speaker 1>fan in this election because of his response to when

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<v Speaker 1>he was shot at remember fight, that was his response,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's this image, which I don't know who designed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's popped up in a whole bunch of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fringe T shirt websites, none of them in my size.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love this image because it is the internal

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of somebody who will not get knocked down, will

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<v Speaker 1>not be put in their place, will just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about this. If it was any of us

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<v Speaker 1>who had been shot at, let alone hit, our reaction

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<v Speaker 1>would be to cower a culture that's all about victimhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it turns into a little ball and hides not

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<v Speaker 1>trump like him, dislike him. Whatever the set of stones

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<v Speaker 1>on this guy will they're their own version of Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I will copy it on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>for saying it. But how can you not think that

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<v Speaker 1>when this was his reaction after he'd been shot, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I love that surge of adrenaline that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>turn into fear. It turned into standing up, chest out,

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<v Speaker 1>push back. And of course there are plenty of things

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<v Speaker 1>that he says that I don't like. There's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>ways that he does things that I think he could

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<v Speaker 1>do better. But this is the imperfect vessel who is

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<v Speaker 1>standing up like previous generations have, like people who are

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<v Speaker 1>constantly told everything is wrong with their worldview. He goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>here's our line, dig in and push. Well, as you

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<v Speaker 1>know today, he didn't get shot at but he was

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<v Speaker 1>potentially due to die today as a second lunatic tried

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<v Speaker 1>to set up on a golf course to shoot kill

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<v Speaker 1>and as well film it all on a GoPro that

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<v Speaker 1>presumably would go straight up to social media. His own

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<v Speaker 1>version of the Zabruta film. But unlike the Zabruda film,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course was Kennedy getting shot and somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>filming it, the guy wanting to kill the president was

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<v Speaker 1>the one who wanted to film it.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking news, the FBI is now investigating a shooting in

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<v Speaker 2>West Palm Beach as an attempted assassination against former President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>The second time in just two months.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump is safe following gunshots in his vicinity.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible today to see all the different news

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<v Speaker 1>websites lead with this in the morning because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a morning story and then slowly maturely said of ye

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of other stuff. Two organizations deserve credit. Sky

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<v Speaker 1>News kept it up leads story all day, so did

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<v Speaker 1>the Sydney Morning Herald. World under both because it is

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing anyone will remember from today, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the second time somebody has tried to go after

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<v Speaker 1>the bloke who might be this close to the presidency

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<v Speaker 1>because he is this close to the presidency. This didn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen with Obama. Remember all of the garbage about how

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<v Speaker 1>racist America was and how they would respond to their

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<v Speaker 1>first black president. Zero of these moments. Instead Trump two

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of months. This is how close it got.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably between three and five hundred yards. But with a

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<v Speaker 5>rifle and a scope like that, that's not a long distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Channel nine excellent explanation. This was one hole on a

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<v Speaker 1>golf course away from where Trump was playing.

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<v Speaker 6>It was one thirty in the afternoon at his Trump

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<v Speaker 6>International Golf Club in West pa Beach. When Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 6>was walking between the fifth and sixth holes, one hole ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>A Secret Service agent was securing the area prior to

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<v Speaker 6>the former president's rifle. That agent spotted the barrel of

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<v Speaker 6>a rifle poking through the bushes. The agent fired four

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<v Speaker 6>to six shots at the suspect. It's not clear if

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<v Speaker 6>Ralph fired back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now two scenarios here, one amazing, like think about any

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<v Speaker 1>of us walking on a golf course or in a park.

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<v Speaker 1>What you would be able to notice in the bushes,

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<v Speaker 1>something as long as the seventh hole being able on

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<v Speaker 1>either side, and to see the barrel of the gun. Unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>frightening that even after he shot four to six times

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of the gunman, the gunman wasn't hit,

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<v Speaker 1>Which means if there was a scenario of shots coming

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<v Speaker 1>this way and those were the shots coming back, the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood is that there would be many more shots than

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw with our own eyes back in July.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, we are in this moment where there is

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<v Speaker 1>an organization whose job it is to create a bubble

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<v Speaker 1>around a president. Because Trump is who he is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to hide in the ballroom of his house.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to hide at Marra Lago, He's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to hide in the penthouse in New York. He

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<v Speaker 1>is going to walk out onto a golf course that's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge threat area, but he ain't going to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to find a way to protect him.

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<v Speaker 1>But amazingly, today there is a difference between somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>been a president and somebody who's potentially about to be

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<v Speaker 1>a president and somebody who is the president. This is

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<v Speaker 1>even after the former president, who may will be about

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<v Speaker 1>to become the president again or at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly this close to it right now. They admitted

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<v Speaker 1>today there wasn't as much security around him as there

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<v Speaker 1>would be if Biden was playing golf.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you got to understand, the golf course is surrounded

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<v Speaker 5>by shrubbery, so when somebody gets into the shrubbery, they're

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much out of sight, all right. And at this

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<v Speaker 5>level that he is at right now, he's not the

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<v Speaker 5>city president. If he was, we would have had this

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<v Speaker 5>higher golf course around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because he's not.

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<v Speaker 5>The security is limited to the areas that the Secret

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<v Speaker 5>Service deems possible. So I would imagine that the next

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<v Speaker 5>time he comes at a golf course, there'll probably be

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more people around the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>De Gold, the man has already been shot at. There

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<v Speaker 1>are how many threats that are out there, and America

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<v Speaker 1>is sadly a country with too many mentally ill people

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<v Speaker 1>and too many access too much access to weapons. We

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<v Speaker 1>see it in so many occasions at so many times.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not to offend the gun owners of America.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the reality of what's happening here, But it

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<v Speaker 1>all depends whether he's sworn in or not sworn in.

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<v Speaker 1>When he is one of two people who are on

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<v Speaker 1>a trajectory to being the next president. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>both Trump and Harris are not surrounded as if they

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<v Speaker 1>were president right now should be frightening to everyone because

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences of one of those two candidates being injured

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<v Speaker 1>or losing their life would be catastrophic for the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The flow on effect around the Western world would be enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>So they should be wrapping potential presidents in the same

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<v Speaker 1>bubble as the president because we are tonight fifty days

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<v Speaker 1>away from that election. Now. We also had been told

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<v Speaker 1>that the Secret Service had some learned its lesson from

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, the other time this year, that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was planning to killed Donald Trump and successfully got

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<v Speaker 1>shots off and successfully hit him in the year millimeters

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<v Speaker 1>between a story that people want to forget at a

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<v Speaker 1>moment in history that your kids will learn about for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of time. The person responsible for the Secret

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<v Speaker 1>Service at that moment, as you just saw, she gave evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>no answers. She eventually wasn't sacked, of course, because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>gets sacked for failures in the United States upper echelons

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<v Speaker 1>under this administration, so she, of course was allowed to resign.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the people who was questioning her said something

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<v Speaker 1>again frightening. Regardless of whether you're a Trump or a

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<v Speaker 1>Harris supporter, booster, or just somebody who wants the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>not China or Russia, to be the top of the tree.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem is you've got a secret service, at least

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<v Speaker 7>in my opinion and in the public sye, that has

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<v Speaker 7>calm promised and that it lacks in leadership. And you've

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<v Speaker 7>got brave agents on the ground, obviously one who took

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<v Speaker 7>that shot. But why in the world would anybody be

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<v Speaker 7>anywhere near the perimeter of this this line of sight

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<v Speaker 7>that we talk about Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go on forever, and there's other

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<v Speaker 1>things to talk about. We'll get to all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to that image of Trump and fight. It

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<v Speaker 1>is just this absolute, in my view, guiding symbol of

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<v Speaker 1>everything he's about, but more importantly, everything that those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who want him to succeed are fighting against. That

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<v Speaker 1>was his reaction when everyone else would cow, when everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else would hide. Today, Sean Hannity, who will be interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>people in and around this incident tomorrow middle of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News. We'll have it for you here tomorrow and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he had to say about the President's

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<v Speaker 1>reaction after the incident took place, and we all saw

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<v Speaker 1>the footage of the sniper's nest, where the plan was

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<v Speaker 1>all there, where the camera was all set up, where

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<v Speaker 1>there was ceramic tiles, that's what's in the plastic bags,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the ak with the site on it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was apparently Trump's response, honestly, like, dislike, hate the man.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you not be impressed that this is his

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<v Speaker 1>response when that's what could have happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Then when the President found out everybody was safe and

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<v Speaker 8>nobody had been harmed, I guess in typical fight fight

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<v Speaker 8>fade fashion, Trump said to Steve, and then he related

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<v Speaker 8>to me, I really wanted to finish the hall. I

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<v Speaker 8>was even and I had a birdie put.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, I really love it. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm copping for this. I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>turnbul times the Guardian getting ready with their second by

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<v Speaker 1>second review. I know what's going to happen over at

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<v Speaker 1>Channel two. I know that twitters are huh there. How

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<v Speaker 1>can you not want that in a leader that rather

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<v Speaker 1>than somebody who cowers and then stretches it out and

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<v Speaker 1>talks about all the stuff that would happen if it

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<v Speaker 1>was anyone else. But this bloke, he shows us in

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<v Speaker 1>these moments where there's no advisers, there's no time to

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<v Speaker 1>think exactly the type of person that he would be

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<v Speaker 1>and that he is and that he would be as

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<v Speaker 1>a president, Which is why again I'm all in. I

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<v Speaker 1>get why that is problematic. I get why sometimes that's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult and I lose mates as a result of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I remain as all in on the

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<v Speaker 1>bloke as I ever have been. Now about the lunatic

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry. You know we're very sensitive to mental

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<v Speaker 1>health on this program, but when you're doing this staff

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<v Speaker 1>psycho right now, generally speaking we don't talk about assailants.

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<v Speaker 1>But because thankfully everyone is alive on both sides of this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it quickly. The sun of this bloke says

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<v Speaker 1>that he hated Trump like every other thinking person. This

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<v Speaker 1>bloke is fifty eight years of age. He apparently had

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<v Speaker 1>to be in his bondet about things like Ukraine, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's alive. So we're going to find out more. And

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<v Speaker 1>now no doubt someone somewhere is going to find something

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow will mean No, he's not as dangerous as

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<v Speaker 1>he seems. No, he's as kooky as you think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's another part of this story that nobody attached

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<v Speaker 1>to it today. And I wonder why. Remember when he

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<v Speaker 1>was shot at the first time, and this was the

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<v Speaker 1>message from his political opponent, you know, the political regular.

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<v Speaker 1>This country has gotten very heated. It's time to cool

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<v Speaker 1>it down.

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<v Speaker 3>We've traveled before throughout our history.

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<v Speaker 1>Violence has never been the answer, great sentiment. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is he'd spent months and months and months talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a threat to democracy country, Your sky will fall in

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<v Speaker 1>brand and all of that business. Have a look today

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the television shows that he's covering the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news, not six hours later, not four days after

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking news of what could have been potentially the

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<v Speaker 1>death of one of two people who will be the

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<v Speaker 1>next president of the United States, or apparently it's Trump's fault.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on

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<v Speaker 4>the campaign trail itself. Mister Trump is running made JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Vans continue to make baseless claims about Haitian immigrants in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you expect to hear anything from the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 9>about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the violence.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the one that was shot at and was about

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<v Speaker 1>to be shot at because it's fifty days out. No mercy,

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<v Speaker 1>No mercy, because this is the worst of the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing is that they don't just hate Trump. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them actually told us that they hate anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>supports Trump because they think you too, are surplus to

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<v Speaker 1>the future of the world. Have a look.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything he does is despicable.

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<v Speaker 10>The reason why it doesn't and his career is because

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<v Speaker 10>his supporters are just as despicable.

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<v Speaker 1>Screw you, pal, screw you now. Of course, let me

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<v Speaker 1>be very quick when this gets edited up somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>to say, no violence against that guy, whatsoever, No threats.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the insight. The American election is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I am so focused on because of its importance to

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world. America is at a fork

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<v Speaker 1>in the road, and in my view, the fundamental fork

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<v Speaker 1>in the road here is Trump will challenge a failing system.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris will continue it and hide behind it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have the chance to vote in the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>you are watching this online somewhere, fight fight, fight metaphorically

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<v Speaker 1>with your strength, with your purpose, not with your fists,

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<v Speaker 1>not with your guns. But fight, fight, fight, because the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world is watching, and we care deeply

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<v Speaker 1>about who wins. Here at home, you may well know

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<v Speaker 1>that Anthony Albernezi, greatest Prome Minister of all time, just

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<v Speaker 1>ask him, is in a world of trouble. Every single

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<v Speaker 1>week a new poll tells the same story, which is

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<v Speaker 1>down down. Not prices are down, but down down. Elbow

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<v Speaker 1>is down. And today the polls in the Financial Review

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two to forty eight. Now, this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>generous to the Coalition of all of the polls that

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<v Speaker 1>have been published thus far. It is an outline compared

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty fifth, which is where Newspole is. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>not ignore this because it is huge. It also shows

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes to the preferred prime Minister, that again,

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<v Speaker 1>while Anthony Abernezi is ever so slightly just in front,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to his own favorable and unfavorable rating,

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<v Speaker 1>well and truly, more people have an unfavorable opinion of

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister than they do Peter Dutton, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know is very hard to believe if you only listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Radio National and watch the Channel two talking shows

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<v Speaker 1>or listen to certain lefty podcasts, isn't Peter Dutton the problem? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the reason that you're able to get to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two to forty eight is because the Liberal National

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<v Speaker 1>Party now has a four in front of it. They

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<v Speaker 1>win elections when there is a four in front of

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<v Speaker 1>their primary vote. Now, I have also always said the

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<v Speaker 1>independent the Teel factor is the reason why I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>part of this one term Elbow thing, right. But amazingly,

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<v Speaker 1>the analysis of this is what I want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes actually getting into because the people

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<v Speaker 1>who presented the poll, the people who have analyzed the pole,

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<v Speaker 1>they are now starting to conclude that if that is true,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I think it's a little bit too hot,

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<v Speaker 1>but still, if that is true, it's not just a

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<v Speaker 1>minority government of Albow, but potentially one for Dutton two. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>again a lot has to go, right, I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the seats and I'll get why. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is sort of perhaps a little generous, but

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<v Speaker 1>still if the election result, if sorry, if the result

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<v Speaker 1>was reflected on election day, the election would be conducted

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<v Speaker 1>in the laboratory in which a swing was uniform. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's not always Peter Dutton would get seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five seats. Seventy five seats. Now, let me introduce you

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<v Speaker 1>to this guy. He gets even deeper into where it's

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<v Speaker 1>all potentially going to change. John Black, former Labor senator

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<v Speaker 1>from Queensland. He wrote in Peace in the Financial Review

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<v Speaker 1>breaking all of this down. He says, my current estimates

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<v Speaker 1>are that the Coalition will comfortably win more seats in

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives than Labour in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's big because it's the first person who's come out

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<v Speaker 1>and is willing to say that, and obviously it's in

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<v Speaker 1>print and reputations are on the line, so we'll all

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<v Speaker 1>find out together. But every other piece of data would

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that Labour gets more seats than the NP at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage because of principally the teals why the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>has always start with household economics. During the past two

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<v Speaker 1>years Albereesi government, families have found their household disposible incomes

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<v Speaker 1>dropping eight percentage points. It's like we've been watching this

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<v Speaker 1>every day politically. Last week's Resolve political monitor that we

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<v Speaker 1>showed you showed that the government is getting blamed for

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<v Speaker 1>economic issues. Number fifty one percent of people say that

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<v Speaker 1>the inflation problem is the government's to deal with, not

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<v Speaker 1>the Reserve Bank. So the seats the suggestion here and

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<v Speaker 1>now again these are all best case scenarios. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>go through and say what I agree and disagree with,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the of you. Their belief is that Paramatta, Patterson,

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<v Speaker 1>Robertson Gilmore would all be pickups in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>There are way too many in Victoria, but still cou Yong, Menzies, Aston, Chisholm, Bruce, McEwen, Monash.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greens would lose seats, not gained seats. They would

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<v Speaker 1>lose seats to the LMP in Brisbane and Ryan. The

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<v Speaker 1>new seat of Bullwinkle in Western Australia plus Tangy and

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<v Speaker 1>the Teal seat of Curtains are two of the Teals

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<v Speaker 1>would disappear in the Northern Territory. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>have been talking about the Beaterloo basin. It's why we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have Matt Cunningham on the show tonight because if

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<v Speaker 1>Tannia Pluppa Seek is about to blow a hole in

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half thousand jobs and five hundred trillion

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<v Speaker 1>tons of gas. Goodbye Solomon, which is Darwin. The Labour

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<v Speaker 1>Party can't win a trick in nall of Spring, so

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<v Speaker 1>potentially Lingiari as well our mate Nicole Flint up in

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<v Speaker 1>Boothby and the seat of Lions in Tasmania. All that

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<v Speaker 1>means that when we add it all up, we find

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<v Speaker 1>that Labor is down thirteen seats from seventy eight to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, Coalition up seventeen from fifty five to seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>three possible additional gains, again everything being all going their way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know from what do they say his mouth

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<v Speaker 1>to old mate's lips, but you get my point. But

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, despite the fact that the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>literally try to ignore, and if they do engage, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just roll their eyes or laugh at this show me

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, guess what they're starting to notice what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about now every night for two and a

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<v Speaker 1>bit years. Patricia Cavales, host of Radio National Breakfast. I

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<v Speaker 1>will not pretend that I'm going after a here. In

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<v Speaker 1>actual fact, it's always been quite pleasant every time we

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<v Speaker 1>say helo to each other. Great, fine, all good lane,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in mind. Fine. But she wrote a piece today

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<v Speaker 1>where guess what, she's noticed that the Labor Party promised

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<v Speaker 1>that everything was going to be better, but it actually isn't. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>two people, two different lanes that are now starting to merge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that'll be great for all of her fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And the number one issue again, she's discovered cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she says, the cost of living question that

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<v Speaker 1>could shape as straight as next federal election. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that question? Well, that question is, of course all in

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<v Speaker 1>and around the same question that was the first question

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<v Speaker 1>that was asked of the US presidential debate. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course this when it comes to the economy, do

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<v Speaker 1>you believe Americans are better off than they were four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? It's the whole point when you are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get another term in office, in this case the

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<v Speaker 1>second term in office, or back to back for her

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<v Speaker 1>with the Biden administration, of which she is already the

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<v Speaker 1>co piloting. Have you made people's lives better matters? When

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<v Speaker 1>you promised to make people's lives better and you failed

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver, the political whiplash is going to be pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>And again PK points out in her column the polling

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from Redbridge fifty seven percent of Australians when asked,

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<v Speaker 1>cannot name a single thing ducky nothing, bugger all. They

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<v Speaker 1>cannot name a single thing the federal government has done,

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<v Speaker 1>led by Anthony Abernezi since being elected in May of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, that made their life better. And why

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<v Speaker 1>the pols going the way they are again all of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we've been talking about. There's plenty of room

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<v Speaker 1>here in the bandwagon for everyone to start to notice, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been noticing for how long what you've been living for?

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<v Speaker 1>How long? This week's political research group that Redbridge conducted

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<v Speaker 1>and they did focus groups since Indney West and Melbourne's

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<v Speaker 1>West would of course elections, LIB will die for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in our collective years of research, both suburban

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne suburban Sydney are expressing their politics in very similar way.

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<v Speaker 1>None of it is good news for the incumbent government.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we start to put the Q in the

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<v Speaker 1>rack and say well one term Prime Minister, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all going to happen, just keep pointing at them. The

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<v Speaker 1>opposition has to come up with something. The opposition has

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us what would they do on the questions

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<v Speaker 1>in and around cost of living. Now, this is dangerous

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 1>because the government, which has got all the treasury, all

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<v Speaker 1>the media, all of the people trying to blow holes

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<v Speaker 1>in the argument. But they do have to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with to say, here's a couple of ideas that we

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<v Speaker 1>believe are going to make people's lives better. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do it today. They'll do it closer

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<v Speaker 1>to an election, but again from the same groups. One

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<v Speaker 1>participant in the focus group, so I just haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>anything about what they would actually do with the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living. The Coalition made things worse, but Labor is

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<v Speaker 1>not making it better. These are just two comments that

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<v Speaker 1>come from it. So I'm pleased to see the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>types who get all the awards and the invites and

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<v Speaker 1>the high fives, and they're amazed. Broadcasters are now starting

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<v Speaker 1>to notice what this broadcast has been saying the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>that Labor have been in power, that their promise could

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<v Speaker 1>not be delivered and an actual fact has made everything worse.

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<v Speaker 1>We know are in the candown to the Queensland election,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll make giggles miles seen here being utterly rejected

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<v Speaker 1>by voters at a by election. This is one where

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<v Speaker 1>Labor got thumbed. He was trying to hand out out

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<v Speaker 1>of votes and nobody looked him in the eye. But

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, oh, I'm William Murons hat that means on

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<v Speaker 1>one of you, well, bugger off. Now he believes that

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<v Speaker 1>he can win the next state election because of how

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<v Speaker 1>successful the fifty cent fair thing has been. Well as

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<v Speaker 1>anyone will tell you about a government that stinks as

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<v Speaker 1>badly as this one, that's going as close to oblivion

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<v Speaker 1>as this one, people will say, take the money and

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<v Speaker 1>bugger off, and that will be their position, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully towards the end of October. Let's make it nice

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<v Speaker 1>and clean. Let's make sure as many ministers, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>the Premier, lose their seat. Flush, get rid of go away,

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye clear history. If we're trying to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the garbage from a mobile phones, get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>cookies of this government, darro say, but here is the

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<v Speaker 1>Premier pretending he can win.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, I think we can win, and I'm fighting

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<v Speaker 11>every single day to when because the stakes for Queensland

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<v Speaker 11>are just that high. I am passionate about my vision

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<v Speaker 11>for the state. I have spent every day as Premier

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<v Speaker 11>out and about talking to Queenslanders and delivering for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah. Shut up seriously enough people can

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<v Speaker 1>make their decision. It'll be nice and strong, wonderful to

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<v Speaker 1>see when it does. Meantime, for their part, the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>is turning around and suggesting that they want to create

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<v Speaker 1>schools in areas that have got massive youth crime problems,

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<v Speaker 1>Schools that would be specifically equipped to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>try to turn kids around. I like this idea. See

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. This is what David Christy fully said today.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm announcing today the first two youth justice schools in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 9>It's never been done before. It's about a circuit breaker

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<v Speaker 9>to stop kids going on that merry go round. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>going to do all we can to intercept and turn

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<v Speaker 9>kids around before a lifetime of crime. It's all about

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<v Speaker 9>making sure that when young people leave court, whether they're

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<v Speaker 9>on bail or one of those youth detention orders, they've

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<v Speaker 9>got to go to school. They've got to have discipline

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<v Speaker 9>in their life. They've got to have structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody oath. How good is Oscar Piastre His second Formula

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<v Speaker 1>One victory took place in Azerbai John which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>sensational performance at their national anthem. Caleb Bond and I

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<v Speaker 1>very very excited about that performance. He won, and he

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<v Speaker 1>won after just one of those set of stones moves

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<v Speaker 1>which are required to be at the top of the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>This spoke's twenty three. He's an Aussie. He will be

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<v Speaker 1>a world champion.

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<v Speaker 12>After the pitstoff, I saw that we we've managed to

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<v Speaker 12>gain a fair bit of time somehow, and the first

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<v Speaker 12>lap or two of the first stin I kind of

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<v Speaker 12>had half the opportunity but didn't quite get close enough.

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<v Speaker 12>I knew that I was in Darres on that one lap.

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<v Speaker 12>I knew I had to try everything to make it stick,

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<v Speaker 12>to hang on for so long. Yeah, with very very

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<v Speaker 12>few mistakes. I think definitely one of my best drives.

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<v Speaker 1>And if showbiz is more your thing, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Emmys were on today. I know I don't care either,

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but the Best Comedy Show went to a very funny

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>show called Hacks, which is awesome. The drama went to

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>a show called Showgun, which apparently is awesome. My executive

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>producer James keeps telling me to watch it. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>around to it now. It's one oh. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>my youngest daughter Zai he thinks this Shola was the

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<v Speaker 1>best dressed, which also helps because she also went on

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<v Speaker 1>and won an award. Love your Zutz, Love yoursha Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The start of the race today is fifty days until

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<v Speaker 1>the presidential election. Let us now take the temperature. Let's

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>check the pulse. It's not how you take a temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do, you're going to be a lot more trouble, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>not doctor, just idiot TV host. Now, according to the

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<v Speaker 1>betting markets, Harris one point chance of but it's fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to forty nine, so that is well and truly a

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<v Speaker 1>toss up. According to the latest five national polls, these

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<v Speaker 1>have all come in after the debate. The ABC IPSOS

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<v Speaker 1>poll has Harris up by four points. They were wrong

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<v Speaker 1>by four points of the last election. Another one has

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<v Speaker 1>Trump up three points. They are an a grade poll.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Yahoo News has Harris up by four. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>has Harris up by four and another one has Harris

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<v Speaker 1>up by five. So after the debate, as you would expect,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris in the league nationally. Remember she's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>higher than two points to have a chance of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to win that electoral college. So what is the

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<v Speaker 1>latest polling average in the states that matter? In Arizona?

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<v Speaker 1>Trump up, Nevada, Harris just, Wisconsin, Harris a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>than just, but still just Michigan, Harris just Pennsylvania. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a tie. That's a tie, all right, Georgia Trump just

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<v Speaker 1>So it's raise a thin in the bedding. It's raise

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<v Speaker 1>a thin in the poles in the predicting markets where

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<v Speaker 1>people use a whole bunch of other stats and they

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<v Speaker 1>work out the percentages the poles were wrong in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump fifty nine point six percent chance of winning. With

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation is that he may well, if it all

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<v Speaker 1>goes right for him, run the table. Literally all of

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<v Speaker 1>the swing states may end up going his way. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will all wait, watch and see. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>we will fight, fight, fight for what we believe in,

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<v Speaker 1>which in this case is always Australia, specifically the Northern Territory.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that straight after the break. Analys Nielsen

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<v Speaker 1>about all the madness from the United States, but lots

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<v Speaker 1>to get to, including Labour's continuing planned to censor the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, it's just as bad as it was last time. Set,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching, Thank you so much for watching. As

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<v Speaker 1>you can notice, we are slightly fired up tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way we like it to be on a Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have all the energy to keep the fight going

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<v Speaker 1>all week long. Frailinch was so good on Thursday, back

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, Back on Monday from the Mensis Research Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course fighting when it comes to the censoring of

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet bill, we don't call it the misinformation bill here.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Cunningham, Oh, I love this man. He's been to Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been to everywhere, but he's never been to me,

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<v Speaker 1>as they would say, but he's a lovely man. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it kicks as for a set indo and each and

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<v Speaker 1>every day. And I wanted to start first with you, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>because decision happens over the weekend where the Bloo Basin

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<v Speaker 1>Gas Project six and a half thousand jobs, five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>trillion cubic meters of gas right, so literally enough power

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<v Speaker 1>to power a huge amount of the country and enough

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<v Speaker 1>jobs to really tip tip the scales in the Northern Territory,

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<v Speaker 1>Approved by Territory Labor, approved by the COLP, announced by

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<v Speaker 1>all they've even got the machines ready to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that minute, Tanny Plipaseik says that let's have another review.

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<v Speaker 1>Marian Scrimjaw is a local member in Lingiari. Here's her reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll get yours, and I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>done before the end of the year. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to drag this on.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to give certainty to the industry as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so we just all need to work together to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we can get the science right.

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<v Speaker 1>In relation to this project, Matt, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you touched it on a minute ago, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>when you put up those couple of seats from the

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Territory that might be in play the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Labor has been well and truly frightened by

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<v Speaker 2>the result of the Northern Territory election, where they got

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely obliterated, smacked out of the water, not just on

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<v Speaker 2>the right but on the left as well. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think this idea of a bit of a green push

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<v Speaker 2>in the Northern Territory has been overstated, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it is something that Labor is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about, and I think you're seeing a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>that play out now, and so what they've done is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not pulling the water trigger. Tania plot Secu said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have this expert environmental panel take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at this and see whether there are some issues

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<v Speaker 2>around the world water. But what you have to remember here, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a long history here. The previous Colp government, the

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Giles government, actually commissioned an independent review into fracking

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<v Speaker 2>that found it was safe. The Labor government under Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Gunner came to power in twenty sixteen foot in place

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<v Speaker 2>a two year moraitatorium got five of the best environmental

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<v Speaker 2>scientists in the country under Rachel Pepper, the former head

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<v Speaker 2>of the New South Wales Environmental Court, to do a

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<v Speaker 2>two year, five million dollar review into fracking. It found

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<v Speaker 2>that if the right regulations were in place, all that

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<v Speaker 2>fracking could be done safely in the Northern territory. These

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<v Speaker 2>companies have had to jump through that many hoops.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not funning.

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<v Speaker 2>And now they're really right on the cusp of production.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're seeing this other review. You heard Marion

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<v Speaker 2>Scrimmer say there, well, she thinks it will be all

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<v Speaker 2>done and dusted by the end of the year. They

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to walk both sides of the fence as well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, because I mean they hold Lingiari, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the seat that takes in all of the Northern territory

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<v Speaker 2>apart from Darwin, basically by a wayfer thin margin less

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<v Speaker 2>than one percent. They don't want to leak votes to

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens. They'd be worried about how badly they perform,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in Alice Springs, where the Greens outperformed them in

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<v Speaker 2>the main seat of Braitling there in Alice Springs. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, if they push too hard, then

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Gosling, who holds a seat of Solomon by about

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent at the moment, he'd be very worried as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because you haven't just got the law and order issues

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<v Speaker 2>that have been playing out in Darwin. If you then

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<v Speaker 2>throw an economic bomb on top of that and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're canceling the Beaterloo, then I think Luke Gosling would

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<v Speaker 2>be a very unhappy camper and very worried about holding

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<v Speaker 2>onto his own seat. So there's some interesting politics that

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<v Speaker 2>play here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, how good is this blow? That's why we

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>love him? Institutional memory right, this is why it's good

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>to have somebody's been around knows what's going on. Goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Adam jock Os government. Right, excellent stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you, brother, but also we all know what

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>happens right when you try to ride both sides of

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the barbee fence. It ain't going to be pleasant and

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they're going to end up having some troubles here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That is what's going to happen. And I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>say little shout out to all the professional political people everywhere.

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, they all in on the gold mine story,

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>which is a great story. This one's bigger. Why because

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>two federal seats matter in terms of the determinant about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen with the election. So guys stop

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking that the Northern Territories just a place for crocodile stories.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It ain't. There's plenty of political stories there too. That's

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 1>why Matt's there loves the joint NT News and sky

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>News dot com dot au Freyer again, you have seen

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this when you've been a candidate yourself, You've seen things

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:31.479
<v Speaker 1>when Labor is trying to thread the needle between we

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>need the Greens, but we actually are going to lose

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot more people if we get too close to

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens. They have to make a decision here. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean if that goes back to not the last government,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>but the government before that and the machines that they're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go today. Oh, but we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>one more inquiry. It's not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be put off until March next year. They're going to

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>have to make a call.

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<v Speaker 13>It's unbelievable and unfortunately, the people that really are the

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 13>victims of this indecision about which way they go are

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 13>the people themselves. Labor is turning this country into an

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 13>anti worker Australia because what's going to happen these projects

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 13>they're being held up. So what's being held up as

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 13>a result. There's six thousand jobs you talked about, And

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 13>this isn't just happening in the Northern Territory. We are

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 13>seeing extreme government overreach across a range of particularly resources

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 13>and mining projects around the country. At the Menzies Research Center,

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 13>we actually wrote a report on green lawfare activism and

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 13>we've found that in the last couple of years it's

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 13>actually cost our economy thirty thousand jobs because we have

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<v Speaker 13>all of these multi billion dollar projects being held up

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 13>in the courts by green activists who just want to

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 13>destroy our country frankly, and labor seems to be going

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 13>along with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So help me out here, Matt, give it. Give us

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>a sense here about the politics to some degree of Darwin. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we just saw in the territory election that

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 1>labor was able to just and I mean just get

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>so the Greens were able to get labor just Fanny

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Bay all right, pretty cashed up area, Okay. Lots of

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>people who are coming in from Sydney and Melbourne to

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>do good in the territory. That's where they largely will

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>end up living, or a lot of people who make

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.919
<v Speaker 1>money off the doing good in the territory. All right,

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But we've seen the suburbs, and we saw how the

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>suburbs flip. We saw when it comes to Alice Springs,

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>how it has flipped. We know that it's a town

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of high vis, we know it's a town of you know,

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>literally sort of a bit of old school Australia. But

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about that sense of environmentalism versus but to

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>be made working in this stuff? How does it play

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in real politic in and around Doe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's one small pocket that's greenish if

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you like, but I don't even know if it's that green.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>It's actually where I live, the seat of Nightcliff. That

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>is a seat that the Greens have won back from Labor.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the breakdown of the result,

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and if you look at it closely won because there

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>were so many people who voted CLP in that seat

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and put Labor last, even though the CLP had Greens

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>last on their how to vote cards. So there were

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>more than five hundred people in the seat of Nightcliff.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Remembering there's only about four thousand people vote in any

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 2>one electorate, there were more than five hundred people in

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the seat of Nightcliff who voted the COLP number one

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and must have put Labour last because their preferences went

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to the Greens, and that was what got the Greens

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>over the line. Just as a consequence of that, you've

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 2>had all of this analysis that has said, oh, Labour's

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>lost back to the Greens. They need to be more

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>stronger on the environment, et cetera, et cetera. The CLP

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>won seventeen of the twenty five seats. There was an

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>eleven percent swing across the board to the COLP. The

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Labor Party got absolutely obliterated, wiped out in Darwin, Palmerston, Catherine,

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Tenant Creek and Alice Springs. They do not hold a

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<v Speaker 2>seat in any of those places. How you can see

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>that as anything but a swing to the right and

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>an electorate saying, oh my god, we have had enough

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>of a Labor Party that had swung too far to

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the left. And at the very last minute, under evil

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Lula tried to straighten the ship up, tried to get

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>back to the center, but by that time it was

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>too late and they got thrown out on their ear.

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<v Speaker 2>I just failed to see how that there is any

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<v Speaker 2>other assessment of the result of an Northern Territory election.

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<v Speaker 1>See you, No, don't burst our bubble. You know this

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>idea that on the weekends you're getting around in a

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>pair of white shoes at Culin Bay, at the marina. No, No,

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>our assumption is when you're not here, you're in the wilds,

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you're at you're flying a helicopter over Lichfield. Mate, That's

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what our assumption is that weekends in the meantime, No,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>it's coffee shops and the rest of it. God love

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>your pal all right, Frey, let's have a version same conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but with an update here essentially of the internet stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting to notice a few people starting, once they've read

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the bill to come out against it. You were hard

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>against this last week. I assume your position has done

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.879
<v Speaker 1>nothing but harden as the day have rolled on. While

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Matt's down there with the coffee crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, this bill is unbelievable. You see the typical

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 13>people trying to come out and defend it and say, oh,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 13>we need to protect our country against misinformation or whatever.

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 13>But my thinking on this is actually evolved as well.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 13>I think we still have the same issues of how

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<v Speaker 13>do you define the truth. But the other issue I've

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<v Speaker 13>been thinking about is what harm are we actually trying

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<v Speaker 13>to solve?

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<v Speaker 3>That seems so unclear. Want someone think of the children, Abert.

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm a digital native, I'm a gen z.

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 13>I got my first social media account when I was

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 13>too young, but I was like eleven twelve, I've grown

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<v Speaker 13>up on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't see what problem we're actually trying to solve.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>For the memes, the memes will rot your brain frames.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Or the deep fake memes of Donald Trump like, what it's.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Just have you seen the pictures of cats? I mean,

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that's unbelieved that, my goodness, misinformation.

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 12>I know.

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 3>I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 13>So I'm like, okay, well, what harm are you actually

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 13>trying to sell for here? And I think it's actually

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 13>very difficult to define and what they're actually doing is

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 13>causing more harm to our freedom of speech in Australia

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 13>then they're actually solving because they haven't actually been able

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<v Speaker 13>to lay out the case.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 3>But why we need these laws in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you completely completely last one here, and of

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>course you would well and truly know this existence, Matt,

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>which is people that are wanting to make their way

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>from North Queensland down to Sydney for the upcoming NFL

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>final between the Sharks and Cowboys surprise surprise flights from

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred bucks. Now, of course, it is disgrace in

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this country that it is literally cheaper to fly overseas

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>than it is to fly to places like Darwin, my goodness.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But if your footy team is ending up playing in

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 1>any of the major capitals and they know there's going

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to be flights on the numbers go through the roof

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>are they?

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>They sure I won't have to worry because Richmond is

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>not going to be playing a final anytime soon. But

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I just looked this up before Paul, because I knew

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 2>were going to talk about this, and I thought, well,

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to book a flight to Sydney this weekend,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>what's it going to cost me at short notice? The

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>cheapest flight I could get down on Friday from Darwin

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>to Sydney was almost fourteen hundred dollars one way. If

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I had to take my whole family, I'd be looking

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>at more than ten grand to fly down to Sydney

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and back if I had to go at short notice.

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<v Speaker 2>It is out of control. It is killing people up

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>here and obviously it's turning people in North Queensland as well.

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Something needs to be done about it. But as we've

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>been talking about for the last ten minutes, we've only

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>got two seats here in the Northern Territory, so I

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>probably won't hold my breath.

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>But when they're in play, my friend and they are

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>in play, let's wait watch and see what happens to

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you and look, family members. That's why Matt can't come

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to your twenty first Okay, it's just that expense. He

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>loves you, He'll zoom in. But no one's spending that

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>much to turn up to a relay bash. Thank you,

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>great man. Do appreciate it. Thank you, Matt, Thank you

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Freyer and als Nielson. Next in the United States, monessy

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty days to go until the pre cidential election. Analyst Nielsen,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>who has been doing a spectacular job of covering the

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>campaign and the governing and every bit of craziness in between,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>joins us again from Washington, d C WERO. I look

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>forward to hanging out with her and everyone else in

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the lead up to the actual election itself. Analyst. Of course,

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>though we've talked about what happened yesterday, and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to say I do remain a little bit stunned at

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>how because a shot wasn't fired, because someone didn't die,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>story disappears. Hey did you hear j de Denan saying

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>something silly on TV? This is massive?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, I mean, Paul, the fact it's a second time

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 10>in two months and we've got two months to go.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 10>It's that kind of sense of for me once, shame

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 10>on you, for me twice, shame on me. The question is,

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<v Speaker 10>what is the secret Service? Doing, and it is hard

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 10>to secure a golf course, but it's certainly not impossible,

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 10>and to have the perimeter like that not monitored to

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 10>the extent that someone can go set up what we

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 10>saw in that photo from the release by the law

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 10>law enforcement, and this is one of the key issues

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 10>in how the safety of the former president and the

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 10>current Republican nominee is managed. And we're learning more after

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 10>what happened to Butler. Pennsylvania. Is so much of what

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 10>the Secret Service does relies on the local law enforcement,

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 10>and obviously they've got to step up in a place

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 10>like Palm Beach because it's a wealthy area. They're used

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 10>to having the former president living in the county, and

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 10>they still didn't have that perimeter secured. It is shocking.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 10>There's going to be questions on Capital Hell it's back

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<v Speaker 10>in session for the next few weeks from Republicans there,

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 10>but it is a real question how do they keep

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 10>him safe over the next few months in the country

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 10>with hundreds of millions of guns. A lot of people

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.760
<v Speaker 10>have it out for Donald Trump, but this is serious

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 10>that they had this first issue in Pennsylvania and they

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 10>haven't done enough. But this has almost happened again.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of crazy there too. A lot

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of crazy in the United States are right because of

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of issues to do with mental health,

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the lack of dealing with it, and and all the

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 1>rest of I don't say it lightly. You know how

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 1>much I care about middal health on the show. But

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that is part of the question here, right, Let alone

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>bad actors, but also the bloke who represented the police

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in that area basically admitted if it was Joe Biden

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was playing golf ie current president, much more security would

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>be around them. But this is a former president, so

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't get the same stuff. Now. I say this

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>for Harris, not a sitting vice president, but as potential

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 1>president number one and Trump former president, potential president number two.

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They should be getting the Biden treatment right now, not

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty days out, as soon as there've been, as soon

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>as the conventions happened. They should be getting presidential level,

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>which means when Donald wants to go outside, he's guarded.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>When she wants to go to the spice shop, she's guarded.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 10>But the sad thing with that is a presidential level

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.760
<v Speaker 10>security makes you as unapproachable to the public as possible,

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 10>and it is supposed to be the idea of a

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 10>presidential campaign that you're out there meeting with regular people.

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 10>All this does is just remove them further from reality.

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 10>So it's not a perfect solution. I completely agree, there's

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 10>not anything you can throw at this that wouldn't be

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 10>worth it at this point. Imagine if the worst had

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 10>happened yesterday, this would be an absolute nightmare for America.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 10>But also when we're talking about mental health in America,

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 10>this is a common thing that's especially raised by Republicans

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.879
<v Speaker 10>when we're talking about gun control. The fact is too,

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 10>it's just a massive country. There's over three hundred and

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 10>twenty million people here. It only takes one bad actor

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 10>to get this kind of access to someone as influential

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 10>and important as Donald Trump. At this point in time,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 10>there should be You're absolutely right, just as much security

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 10>as it possibly takes to keep him safe, because this

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 10>would be an absolute disaster if anything were to happen

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 10>to him at this point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>I open the show with a sort of passionate thinging

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>about why I'm impressed by Trump, right, and this is

0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking you to comment to the Yay your

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.720
<v Speaker 1>name of it right. But I love that the react

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the moment he was shot, Fight five, fight right, the

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>moment that this moment happens, the word is, oh, I

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to finish my golf game. In a culture

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that is the same as ours, a victim would wear

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>when something terrible happens, I'm going to hide in the corner.

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>When something as significant as this happens, you'd think that

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't leave the house. But nothing changes his step, right,

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It'll be fascinating to see again reality is there is

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>political elements around all of these things. We know that

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Harris was starting not so much to take off but

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>get out in front when it comes to the post

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>debate bump. But whether that comes back to the fifty

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to fifty game, we'll all see together. Which brings me

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>neatly to fifty days out. I have no doubt that

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>every day someone from somewhere in your life back in Australia,

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>who do you think is going to win? Answer? No

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>one knows it's fifty to fifty. But give us an

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>idea of what you're looking at for the sort of

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>cat's whiskers approach, to give us an idea of which

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 1>way it's going.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Paul, You're absolutely right.

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 10>Everyone's asking me, so, who's going to win? If I

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 10>knew that, I would have put money on this, quit

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 10>my job and be a millionaire by now. But what

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 10>I do say is, don't assume it's going to be Harris.

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 10>And I say that because there's so much more that

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 10>goes into this than national polls of who's more popular.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 10>The whole thing in America is who actually votes, and

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 10>Republicans are doing much better this time telling people to

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 10>vote early and vote by mail. That's going to change

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 10>the game. And also a lot of people who say

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 10>they like Kamala Harris are gen Z and they're not

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 10>very good at following through with actually registering to vote,

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:38.879
<v Speaker 10>getting that ballot in on time.

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 10>I would be very skeptical and that polling too. She's

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 10>coming in not as good with the gen zs as

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 10>Joe Biden, so this is still a tyrase.

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Not as good as Biden was, not as good as

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Hillary was, and we know what happened to Hillary. All right, mate,

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. I look forward to talking to

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you many times between now and then, on and off

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the year. We love you. Mane and at Las Nielsen

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>there in the United States, big one or not even

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>bigger one. Tomorrow night, I mean one of those moods.

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's keep going, say tomorrow