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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the wider panehe show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panehe show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight Labour's home deposit scheme called an insult to

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Speaker 2: first home buyers. The panel will join me shortly to

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Speaker 2: discuss the day's top headlines. The Great Douglas Murray has

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Speaker 2: some thoughts on Anthony Alberanezi's war against populism. He'll be

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Speaker 2: here before the first ad break and we've got the

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Speaker 2: cream of the crop for you. Tonight Josh Hammer will

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Speaker 2: have the latest from the US, including Pete Hegzett declaring

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Speaker 2: an end to de madness in the military and the

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Speaker 2: return of meritocracy. And left is losing and has the

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Speaker 2: ladies of the view wondering whether they'll survive three more

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Speaker 2: years of Trump.

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Speaker 3: Every day it's every day is a shuck and owe

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Speaker 3: here and I for one skeptical that we will survive this.

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Speaker 4: First.

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Speaker 2: Victorian Opposition leader Brad Batten has pledged to keep transgender

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Speaker 2: sex offenders out of women's prisons. As premiers listened to

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Speaker 2: Alan Ignores pleas to have a transgender inmate who sexually

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Speaker 2: abused his five year old daughter removed from a female

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Speaker 2: correction facility.

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Speaker 5: Any person who wants to choose in their life what

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Speaker 5: they identify as that is one hundred percent their choice,

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Speaker 5: but not at the risk of others. And there needs

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Speaker 5: to be a line in the sand that says no,

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Speaker 5: there is certain things and not acceptable and people going

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Speaker 5: into the opposite sex prisons are putting people at risk.

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Speaker 5: That is something that needs to be considered and wouldn't

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Speaker 2: The sex offender in question, a father who now identifies

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Speaker 2: as a woman and calls himself Hillary Maloney, took thirteen

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Speaker 2: videos and sixty four images of himself sexually abusing his daughter,

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Speaker 2: five year old daughter across the state one month period

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Speaker 2: after agreeing to engage in those vile acts for the

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Speaker 2: sexual gratify vocation of American pedophile Sam Booth, who he

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Speaker 2: called his master now. Brad Batten also slammed the sentence

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Speaker 2: given to this offende minimum jail term of just two

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Speaker 2: and a half years when the maximum is twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: but the judge in the case through that because the

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Speaker 2: offender was transitioning to being a woman and that transition

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Speaker 2: wasn't fully accepted by those around him. Because of that,

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Speaker 2: his moral culpability was reduced.

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Speaker 5: These are sentences that are not in line with community expectations.

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Speaker 5: That is why we will make sure we will review

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Speaker 5: all of the sentence in.

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Speaker 6: Here in Victoria.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this, ask Sky News

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Speaker 2: contributors Caroline dei Rosso and Evelyn Ray. Caroline, I'll start

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Speaker 2: with you. I wrote about this issue again in the

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Speaker 2: Herald Sun today. There is something very wrong, very sick

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Speaker 2: with the judiciary, with the bureaucracy, with the expert class

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Speaker 2: in Victoria. When something like this happens. This doesn't happen

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Speaker 2: in isolation.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't happen in isolation.

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Speaker 7: And what was very interesting as well as a corollary

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Speaker 7: to that, is to Cinter Allen has not been as

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Speaker 7: usually is because obviously this is something that is just

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Speaker 7: impossible to defend, impossible to justify, and I think she

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Speaker 7: knows that. I think Brad Baton summed it up perfectly

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Speaker 7: and his position, I think is totally in line with

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Speaker 7: community expectations. You know, it is not appropriate for biological

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Speaker 7: men to be in women's prisons. Like he said, you

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Speaker 7: can make whatever decision you want in life, but you

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Speaker 7: don't have the luxury of visiting those consequences on other people.

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Speaker 2: We've got to look at the cases in Victoria. I

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Speaker 2: remember more than three years ago being contacted by women

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Speaker 2: They were terrified and Evelyn, no one was listening to them,

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Speaker 2: not Corrections Victoria, certainly not the labor government, and at

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just another clear example of the hierarchy of ideologies,

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Speaker 8: you know. Put simply, this is another example of prioritizing

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Speaker 8: the trans movement over women's safety, you know, and when

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Speaker 8: women's safety takes a back seat to any ideological movement,

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Speaker 8: we as a society should be very, very concerned. You know,

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Speaker 9: And that is a massive, massive red flag.

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Speaker 8: These were questions that five year olds could answer up

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Speaker 8: incredibly fleeting. But the reality is when you abandon common sense.

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Speaker 8: When you forsake truth and you replace it with these

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Speaker 8: in truth, and it's the ones who are constantly censoring, constantly,

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Speaker 8: against them. It's just it's, honestly, the people who are

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Speaker 8: and that's what we're seeing play out in these prisons.

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Speaker 8: I'm honestly disgusted by the result of this court matter.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half years I.

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Speaker 8: Worked in child sex crimes in Australia as a detective

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Speaker 8: and I can tell you from firsthand experience that this

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Speaker 8: and time again where ideological movements get priority over justice.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the reason why the West.

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Speaker 8: Has prospered for so long above second and third world

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Speaker 8: justice very well. That it's an incentive to not commit

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Speaker 8: crime because you go, oh crap, I don't want the punishment.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to have to reap the consequences. But

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Speaker 8: The more that we diminish these things in place of

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Speaker 8: these ideological movements, the more we are going to regress

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Speaker 2: Quite simply is just not good enough.

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Speaker 8: And I think that, you know, women make up over

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Speaker 8: fifty percent of this nation.

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Speaker 4: I think we can make.

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Speaker 8: A pretty loud noise, especially if we have the good

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Speaker 8: what we should really be pushing for.

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Speaker 2: Now. Let's move on to the barefoot investor Scott paper

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Speaker 2: lashing out of the Albanezy government over it's five percent

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Speaker 2: deposit scheme for first home buyers which has just come

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Speaker 2: into effect. He's branded an insult. He warned the policy

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Speaker 2: risked first home buyers taking up taking on ninety five

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Speaker 2: inflation spikes. He writes, it's dressed up as a helping hand,

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Speaker 2: but it's really just a shove into bigger debt. Instead

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Speaker 2: and encourage first home buyers to borrow more and save less.

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Speaker 2: That's subprime lending Australian style. Caro. Why is the government

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Speaker 2: getting involved in private home purchases. We already have companies

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Speaker 2: that provide lenders mortgage insurance. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: getting involved in this area. Well, I've spent plenty of

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Speaker 2: time in my former life doing back end enforcement work

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Speaker 2: for the bank, so I've seen this go south on

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Speaker 4: During the GFC.

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Speaker 7: We obviously didn't have the same you know, sort of

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Speaker 7: but there was some of it that happened here.

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Speaker 4: What the government is doing, or is.

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Speaker 7: They're pretending to help, They're pretending to fix reta And

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Speaker 7: this won't come as a surprise to you, but big

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Speaker 7: buckets have cash actually don't fix problems. And in the

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Speaker 7: case of something like housing, it actually makes the problem

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Speaker 7: worse because the supply hasn't changed, but you're putting a

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Speaker 7: big extra chunk of demand onto the market. What Barefoot

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Speaker 7: Investor said is absolutely correct. All it is doing is

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Speaker 7: putting a bigger set of golden handcuffs on first homeowners. Okay,

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Speaker 7: some of them might be able to go into this

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Speaker 7: into their mortgage, maybe with a two percent or three percent,

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Speaker 7: two or three years sorry, fixed loan. But after that,

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Speaker 7: and as is usually the case in Australia, loans become

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Speaker 7: are absolutely subject to.

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Speaker 4: Fluctuations, and not just that.

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Speaker 7: If you're not one of the first people to get

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Speaker 7: right at the beginning, something like this is going to

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Speaker 7: have an inflationary impact. And even just the rises that

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Speaker 7: GUS the September quarter, it adds an extra eighteen thousand

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Speaker 7: if you can save an extra eighteen grand in a quarter,

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Speaker 7: well good on you. But I tell you what, it's

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Speaker 7: just going to make things tougher for everyone out there.

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Speaker 2: Evelyn Ray, I'm run out of time. If I can

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Speaker 2: get a response in about fifteen seconds. Do you see

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Speaker 2: any upside to this policy for first time buyers?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely no upside.

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Speaker 8: I think it's important to remember if the government owned

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Speaker 8: one percent of your home.

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Speaker 2: And you are one hundred percent of your home, well

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Speaker 2: said Evelyn Ray. Caroline de Rousso, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your time, tonight. Joining me now is the author

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Speaker 2: of groundbreaking works, international bestsellers, including The Strange Death of Europe,

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Speaker 2: The Madness of Crowds, The War on the West, and

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Speaker 2: his latest on democracies and death cults. Douglas, I'm keen

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on the war against populism being

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Speaker 2: waged by the likes of Kis Starmer and our own

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi. But let's start in the US,

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Speaker 2: where Hillary Clinton has decried white men of a certain

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Speaker 6: The idea that you could turn the clock back and

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Speaker 6: try to recreate a world that never was dominated by

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Speaker 6: you know, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion,

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Speaker 6: a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology.

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Speaker 6: It's just doing such damage to what we should be

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Speaker 2: There you go, Douglas, white Christian men holding back social progress.

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Speaker 10: Well, Hillary Clinton obviously believes in the myth that so

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Speaker 10: many progressives do, which is that you're on a trajectory

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Speaker 10: to just have more and more rights, get more and

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Speaker 10: more freedoms, and more and more liberal in their understanding

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Speaker 10: of the term, and that anything that doesn't go along

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Speaker 10: with that, including for instance, not voting for Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 10: it revealed a terrible mock failing. And it's just always

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Speaker 10: so striking the presumptuousness of that and.

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Speaker 9: The sour grapes of it.

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Speaker 10: And they always add that thing of going back to

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Speaker 10: or being able to intuit. A lot of people don't

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Speaker 10: want to go back to a world that never existed,

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Speaker 10: but they would like to live in stable, secure societies

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Speaker 10: that were proud of their identity and history. And that

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Speaker 10: isn't a make believe world. That isn't a world that

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Speaker 10: never existed. It's one that some of us can remember

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Speaker 10: in our own lifetimes. It's impossible to imagine a world

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Speaker 10: in which Hillary Clinton said, it's unfortunate that there's been

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Speaker 10: a rise in female genital mutilations in Western societies, but

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Speaker 10: you know that's the fault of dark skinned men of

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Speaker 10: a certain religion. Wow, the talk show hosts in America

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Speaker 10: wouldn't NodD belong to that.

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Speaker 9: But as always.

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Speaker 10: Rita, it's acceptable to beat up on Christians, and especially

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Speaker 10: acceptable to beat up on white men and if white

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Speaker 10: men are Christians, then we all know. I mean, they've

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Speaker 10: in the world in the way of Hillary Clinton's world,

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Speaker 10: not for the first.

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Speaker 2: Time, and that she would make these comments just two

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Speaker 2: weeks after Charlie Kirk's assassination. She is just so tone

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Speaker 10: In my observation in recent years, the word populism is

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Speaker 10: And they really do think that if they call mainstream

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Speaker 10: It's absolutely woeful and they would hate that if it

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Speaker 10: Terrible statistic and it's not like it's something we don't

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Speaker 2: It just shows you how corrupted that bureaucracy is with

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Speaker 10: Yes, I was very pleased to see that the President

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Speaker 10: the case. And yes, I mean there's a lot in

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Speaker 10: the book that I think could be useful to people

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Speaker 10: considering the future of the region, because there are a

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Speaker 10: lot of unpopular truths and unpopular facts which I encourage

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Speaker 10: my readers to absorb, and which I'm very very glad

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Speaker 10: when political leaders show that they are absorbing those uncomfortable

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Speaker 10: truths and facts as well.

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 9: Great pleasures always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you still to Calme Left He's losing ed, plus

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Speaker 2: the laters from the US, including the War Secretary declaring

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Speaker 2: an in to d I'm madness in the military and

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Speaker 2: the return of meritocracy. Josh Hammer is up next. You're

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Speaker 2: watching the reader Paney show, and it's time for lefties

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Speaker 2: losing it. Let's check in on the TV series Law

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Speaker 2: and Order SVU, which jumped the shark more than a

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Speaker 2: decade ago. A show that's supposed to be about law

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Speaker 2: and order, the first to demonize ICE agents these days.

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Speaker 2: Watch this travesty as the show's heroine is arrested by ICE.

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Speaker 9: Captain visiting your interfering with the federal operation.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, she's not y.

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Speaker 13: He releases the material witness and he's in the custody

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Speaker 13: of the MBRE.

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Speaker 6: Do you really want to help a rapist go free?

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Speaker 9: He's ours? Okay, take him to holding once.

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Speaker 1: He provides his testimony. Don't know, we'll release him.

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Speaker 9: This's you.

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Speaker 13: You have been obstructing this apparition, and from the beginning

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Speaker 13: that is a federal charge.

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Speaker 9: Put your hands behind your back.

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Speaker 2: Well, we shouldn't be too shocked. Last years for You

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Speaker 2: had an episode where a white rape victim reflected on

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Speaker 2: her white privilege because her rapist was black.

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Speaker 13: Are you going to believe me because I can, I

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Speaker 13: can afford therapy.

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Speaker 1: I have that luxury and maybe one day.

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Speaker 9: I'll be okay. But if that teenager cost.

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Speaker 2: To prison, you may not be. Never but law and

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Speaker 2: order still has a long way to go to reach

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Speaker 2: the dangerously woke heights of this episode of Cocoa Melon Lane,

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Speaker 2: a Netflix program for children. Remember this a boy in

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Speaker 2: a tutu dancing for his two dads.

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Speaker 4: Of course we know about you.

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Speaker 2: You learn to get up ast. How about you break

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Speaker 2: out those moves for your.

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Speaker 8: Two biggest fans.

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Speaker 7: If you're not sure what to choose, think about all

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Speaker 7: the things you like to do.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now to Randy Windgarden, the hard left activists paid

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Speaker 2: half a million dollars to be the president of the

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Speaker 2: American Federation of Teachers. She's determined to whip up maximum

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Speaker 2: fear and hysteria. Here she explains why she's wearing a

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Speaker 2: paper clip.

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Speaker 14: There is a reason why in Norway, when the Nazis

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Speaker 14: took over Norway, That's why I'm wearing this paper clip.

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Speaker 14: I wear two things now, the American flag, nobody can

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Speaker 14: take patriotism away.

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Speaker 1: From me, and a paper clip.

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Speaker 14: What did the teachers in Norway do when there was

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Speaker 14: when there was a Nazi occupation?

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Speaker 2: They started wearing paper clips. That's the sort of deray

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Speaker 2: directorc that could incite crazy people to commit acts of violence.

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Speaker 2: And never forget that that mad banshee was allowed to

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Speaker 2: direct government policy on things like masking and school closures

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Speaker 2: under the Bideen administration. Now, let's check in with the

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Speaker 2: ladies of the view, who are all triggered by the

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Speaker 2: notion that members of the armed forces should actually be

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Speaker 2: fit for service.

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Speaker 3: Pete Hegseth spoke to US military leaders from around the

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Speaker 3: world to lay out his very retro vision for our

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Speaker 3: armed forces. Watch.

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Speaker 13: This administration has done a great deal from day one

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Speaker 13: to remove the social justice, politically correct, and toxic ideological

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Speaker 13: garbage that had infected our department. We are done with that.

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Speaker 13: It's tiring to look out at combat formations, or really

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Speaker 13: any formation and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable

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Speaker 13: to see fat generals and admirals in the wholes of

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Speaker 13: the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: Why is he obsessed with fat?

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Speaker 15: Yeah and fitness?

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I don't know, Joy, Why is the Secretary of

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Speaker 2: War obsessed about fitness? Do you really think fat obese

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Speaker 2: troops are ideal? And Joy's looking for some conspiracy behind

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Speaker 2: this bizarro push for standards, as she sees it.

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Speaker 3: So why do you think they're doing this? There's always

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Speaker 3: an ulterior motive. Well, that's the major.

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Speaker 6: Question, and if it has anything to do with the

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Speaker 6: recruiting law, they probably just meet it worse.

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Speaker 2: That was the dangerously misinformed Sarah Hayines claiming there is

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Speaker 2: a recruiting issue. There was a massive recruiting issue under

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration. As soon as Donald Trump was re

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Speaker 2: elected in November, recruitment numbers saw to record highs. We

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Speaker 2: really should have more of Sarah Haynes on lefties losing

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Speaker 2: it because she's as awful as the others on the view.

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Speaker 2: But she's a little bit boring, isn't she? While Sonny Houston,

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Speaker 2: for example, is awful, but we'd compelling here. She is

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Speaker 2: being befuddled fun.

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Speaker 15: I'm actually really refuddled by why he did that.

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Speaker 2: The optics were terrible.

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Speaker 15: Return to the highest male standard for combat positions because

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Speaker 15: the troops were fat. I don't understand how that was

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Speaker 15: supposed to be an uplifting.

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Speaker 2: Message for our military. You know, her complete ignorance is

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Speaker 2: part of her charm. Really, she doesn't get it. She

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Speaker 2: thinks having standards is demoralizing. I guess it would be

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Speaker 2: for the view because all the hosts would be sacked

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Speaker 2: if there were any standards, which would be devastating for

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Speaker 2: this segment. Where else can I get such a ready

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Speaker 2: supply of weapon grade crazy? Here is Joy Behar again.

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Speaker 2: This time she's claiming America won't survive three more years

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Speaker 2: of Trump.

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Speaker 3: Every day It's every day is a shock and owe

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Speaker 3: here and I for one skeptical that we will survive this.

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Speaker 2: Joinning me now is Usweek's senior as were at large

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Speaker 2: and Article three projects in your council, Josh Hammer, Josh,

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Speaker 2: the ladies of the view are outraged by the notion

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Speaker 2: that military personnel should be fit for service. When will

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Speaker 2: the left understand that meritocracy is back and all the

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Speaker 2: DEI madness and political posturing that really has no place

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Speaker 2: in the armed forces? That is ash, That is something

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegseett was very clear about.

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Speaker 13: This administration has done a great deal from day one

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Speaker 13: to remove the social justice, politically correct, and toxic ideological

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Speaker 13: garbage that had infected our department. To rip out the politics.

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Speaker 13: No more identity months, DEI officers, dudes in dresses, no

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Speaker 13: more climate change worship, no more division distraction or gender delusions,

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Speaker 13: no more debris. As I've said before and will say again,

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Speaker 13: we are done with.

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Speaker 2: That, Josh, that was pretty emphatic. What did you make

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Speaker 2: of that speech?

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Speaker 16: That's what I voted for, Rita. That that is literally

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Speaker 16: exactly what I voted for. In fact, I was a

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Speaker 16: very early supporter of Pete heg Sets to be Secretary

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Speaker 16: of Defense. I wrote numerous articles of the Daily Mail

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Speaker 16: and elsewhere supporting his confirmation.

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Speaker 1: That was a tough confirmation fight.

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Speaker 16: Actually, it was very difficult to try to get Joni

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Speaker 16: Arth by one board. So I was personally all hands

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Speaker 16: on deck there. And this is exactly what I anticipated,

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Speaker 16: is exactly what I wanted, because Pete Hegset is a

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Speaker 16: kind of guy. Rita who served his country honorably in

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Speaker 16: multiple overseas theaters. He is of a younger generation. He

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Speaker 16: knows all the problems. He can directly relate to the problems,

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Speaker 16: the woke adult nature of the United States military under

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Speaker 16: Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden. He can relate to

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Speaker 16: it because he lived it, because he has seen it

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Speaker 16: with his own eyes in a way that a lot

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Speaker 16: of these stodgy, old fat generals that he's referring to

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Speaker 16: have not necessarily been able to relate. But really, Rita,

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Speaker 16: what heg Seth is trying to do. It's really not

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Speaker 16: that radical. It's actually something of a throwback to a

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Speaker 16: bygone era from as recently as, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 16: like twenty twenty five years ago at the most.

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Speaker 1: I mean, once upon a Hahn.

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Speaker 16: The United States military was unanimously feared across the world

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Speaker 16: all throughout the world as the most lethal fighting force

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Speaker 16: in the modern history of mankinds, maybe really in all

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Speaker 16: mankind at least going back to the days of the

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Speaker 16: Roman Empire two thousand years ago. But what made the

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Speaker 16: units is military great? What led the US military to

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Speaker 16: storm the beaches of Normandy and to take the high

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Speaker 16: ground on the cliffs of France against the Nazi invaders.

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Speaker 16: There those men who did that rita, they were not

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Speaker 16: there because they thought it was good to be fat.

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Speaker 16: They were not there because they thought it was good

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Speaker 16: to be a man who would put on a female

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Speaker 16: wig or chop off their body part from the name

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Speaker 16: of so called diversity, equity inclusion. They were not there

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Speaker 16: because they had some sort of body positivity or because

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Speaker 16: they were gay at trying that enough. They were there

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Speaker 16: because they were men, typically just men who were only

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Speaker 16: really really good at hunting down and killing the enemy

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Speaker 16: in the most effective and efficient way possible. That is

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Speaker 16: the military that I strive for as the military that

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Speaker 16: Pete hex have envisions and God willing Regia. That is

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Speaker 16: the military under his leadership and President Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 16: that we're going to get back here asap.

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Speaker 2: And the Secretary of War was clear Josh that women

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Speaker 2: are welcome to serve in any capacity, but they have

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Speaker 2: to get there on merit standards. Aren't going to be

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Speaker 2: lowered physical standards to meet any sort of quota system.

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Speaker 13: Our female officers and NCOs are the absolute best in

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Speaker 13: the world. But when it comes to any job that

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Speaker 13: requires physical power to perform in combat, those physical standards

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Speaker 13: must be high and gender neutral.

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Speaker 1: If women can make it excellent. If not, it is

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Speaker 1: what it is.

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Speaker 13: If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs,

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Speaker 13: so be it. That is not the intent, but it

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Speaker 13: could be the result, so be it. It will also

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Speaker 13: men that we mean that weak men won't qualify because

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Speaker 13: we're not playing games.

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Speaker 1: This is combat.

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Speaker 9: This is life or death.

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Speaker 2: Josh. That's going to outrage all the usual suspects, because

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Speaker 2: I believe that diversity is our strength, even in the military,

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Speaker 2: even if that diversity is achieved through lowering standards to

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Speaker 2: make certain gender or other quotas.

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Speaker 16: I find this leftist notion so utterly unrelatable that I

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Speaker 16: can barely contort my head to wrap myself around the mentality.

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Speaker 16: Who actually thinks that the military should be there to

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Speaker 16: promote diversity. Diversity of sex is, diversity of sexual orientations,

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Speaker 16: di diversity of gender identities, diversity of literally anything. No,

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Speaker 16: the US military is not supposed to be diverse for

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Speaker 16: the sake of diversity, and.

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Speaker 1: It happens to be diverse.

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Speaker 16: It happens to be, you know, a nice mix of

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Speaker 16: black people and white people and Hispanic people and agents whatever.

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Speaker 16: They're great, fantastic there. But there's absolutely no compelling reason

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Speaker 16: why we haven't necessarily pick and socially craft the military

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Speaker 16: to do anything other than what we were just talking about,

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Speaker 16: which is to hunt down and kill the enemy in

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Speaker 16: the most effective and efficient way possible. By the way,

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Speaker 16: this whole notion of trying to socially engineer the military

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Speaker 16: to fit these postmodern, bizarre, oak neo Marxist standards has

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Speaker 16: also had a debilitating effect on American morales. We actually

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Speaker 16: look at the morale of young soldiers, marines, infantry men, sailors,

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Speaker 16: and so forth who sign up for the military. There,

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Speaker 16: the morales actually, at least prior to this administration, was

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Speaker 16: pulling in really really low. And the US military is

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Speaker 16: also missing its recruitment targets oftentimes by double digit percentage,

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Speaker 16: by a very high margin, year in and year out.

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Speaker 16: So this is really rapidly heading towards a near existential

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Speaker 16: crisis there. America needs a strong military. We need volunteers.

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Speaker 16: There's no conscription here, there's no draft there. If we're

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Speaker 16: going to stand up against communist China, which is getting

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Speaker 16: ever closer potentially to invading in Taiwan, on god forbid

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Speaker 16: the Philippines, who knows. If we're going to stand up

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Speaker 16: against all our enemies, we need a strong military. Again,

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Speaker 16: Pete Haig said, gets that with every fiber as being,

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Speaker 16: he's not going to cut anyone some slacks because they

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Speaker 16: happen to have a certain type of genitalia. You are

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Speaker 16: a certain to like sleeping with a certain type of

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Speaker 16: person who's their same sex. Now those days are done,

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Speaker 16: They're done, done done. I voted for this, reader of

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Speaker 16: the American peop voter for this. This is the way

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Speaker 16: it's going to be.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: President Trump also addressed military leaders and he had this

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Speaker 2: to say about using the military to take on drug cartails.

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Speaker 17: There, our leadership, the military is now the knife's edge

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Speaker 17: and combating the sinister enemy. We have to put the

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Speaker 17: traffickers in cartels unnoticed, and we've done that. Try to

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Speaker 17: poison our people, we will blow you out of existence,

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Speaker 17: because that's the only language they really understand.

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Speaker 2: Josh. He has been blowing up those boats there, the traffickers,

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Speaker 2: some incredible footage of that. And he also wants to

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Speaker 2: use the military to take on the law and order

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Speaker 2: crisis in America's biggest cities. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: that plan. He's mentioned cities like Chicago and he's talked

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Speaker 2: about Portland. Could he utilize the military to do what

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Speaker 2: he achieved in DC?

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Speaker 17: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yes and no.

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Speaker 16: The literal armed troops, like the actual men who sign

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Speaker 16: up for the US Army and US Navy, cannot be

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Speaker 16: used in dease to day law enforcement practices.

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Speaker 12: There.

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Speaker 16: There's a statue from the late eighteen hundreds called the

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Speaker 16: Passi Commentatus Act that supposedly prohibits that. Having said that,

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Speaker 16: there are other statutes, including the Insurrection Act which goes

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Speaker 16: back even further back to the Thomas Jefferson presidency around

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Speaker 16: eighteen oh seven or so. The Insurrection Act does give

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Speaker 16: the president the ability to send in the National Guard

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Speaker 16: to try to restore order again. You know, when certain

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Speaker 16: conditions are med. You can't just snap your fingers and

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Speaker 16: send it in there. But if you, if you earnestly

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Speaker 16: determine that there is a state of anarchy, the law

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Speaker 16: and order is not being restored, then there are various

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Speaker 16: conditions on which the National Guard can be sent in.

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Speaker 16: This is what center Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Rita. Lets

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Speaker 16: you forget. That is what Tom Cotton was talking about

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Speaker 16: in the infamous June twenty twenty op ed at the

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Speaker 16: New York Times that led to the whole staff talk

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Speaker 16: out there led to Barry Weis's resignation. That's literally what

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Speaker 16: Tom Condon was talking about his oup that was titled

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Speaker 16: send in the Troops. He was talking about the insurrection,

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Speaker 16: not the National Guard. So that's what Donald Trump is

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Speaker 16: talking about. He is, indeed, I think, on very firm

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Speaker 16: legal ground, again depending on just how bad the city

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Speaker 16: in question is. But let me tell you, I mean

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Speaker 16: having lived in Chicago, having lived in other blue cities

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Speaker 16: as well, it's oftentimes really really bad. Now, I think

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Speaker 16: that Trump he's been talking a lot about Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 16: There have been some National Guard guardsmen already deployed to Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 16: I think Memphis is actually a great example as to

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Speaker 16: what this should look like in practice, because when you're

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Speaker 16: trying to coordinate with the local authorities there with the

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Speaker 16: National Guard, you first and foremost coordinate with the governor

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Speaker 16: of the state, much more so than the mayor. So

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Speaker 16: I think I think the sweet spot here Rita should

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Speaker 16: be red cities in excuse me, blue cities in red states.

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Speaker 16: So that makes Memphis, Tennessee a very enticing option off

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Speaker 16: In Texas, I think would be another very incasing option there.

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Speaker 16: But you want, ideally a governor who was very sympathetic there,

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Speaker 16: and I think it would be kind of easy pickings

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Speaker 16: to go for a blue city deep in the bowels

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Speaker 16: of red state if he wants to take on a

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Speaker 16: challenge of really going forward in a San Francisco with

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Speaker 16: the Gaven newsum, I mean, I say bringing on. I

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Speaker 16: mean that would be a fun fight for sure, but

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Speaker 16: I think it would be an easier bang for your bucket.

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Speaker 16: You'd have to expend less political capital, that is to say,

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Speaker 16: but going for a blue city in a red state.

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Speaker 2: Josh, that's an excellent point, because those blue cities, the

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Speaker 2: big cities, are almost all Democrat, even if they are

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Speaker 2: in Republican states. Austin is a prime example. Doesn't even

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Speaker 2: feel like Texas anymore. Would be fantastic to make Austin

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Speaker 2: Texan again. Now, don't go anywhere. After the break, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the left turning on each other.

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Speaker 2: BLM is taking on a George Soros back foundation. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Come here with Josh Hammer. Josh, the left is turning

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Speaker 2: on each other with BLM suing a George Soros backed organization.

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Speaker 2: The New York Post reports the National Black Lives Matter

756
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Speaker 2: Movement claims thirty three point four million is being withheld

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Speaker 2: by the TIDES Foundation, back by George Soros bil and

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Speaker 2: accuses the foundation of deceptive business practices and egregious mismanagement

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Speaker 2: of its money. And this week they asked the California

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Speaker 2: Attorney General to investigate TIDES after filing a lawsuit last year. Josh,

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Speaker 2: where did it.

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Speaker 4: All go so wrong?

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Speaker 16: Well, you know, reader, they always say the revolution always

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Speaker 16: eats its own right. I mean, this is kind of

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Speaker 16: leftism one, really. I mean, I mean we see this

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Speaker 16: time and time again, how the various horts of this

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Speaker 16: leftist coalition, this intersectional coalition of aggrieved interests, I mean

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Speaker 16: they oftentimes not all those they pretty much always will

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Speaker 16: ultimately end up warring against each other. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 16: let's let's kind of take a similar example to kind

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Speaker 16: of paint this image a little more starkly there. I mean,

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Speaker 16: how about you had first the fight for same sex marriage,

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Speaker 16: gay rights, et cetera, and then you had the transgender

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Speaker 16: fight there. Well, one of the big premises of the

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Speaker 16: arguments for enhanced gay rights saints as marriagetctera in the US,

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Speaker 16: was that gay people are born this way. Right, That

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Speaker 16: was that was one of the big arguments. I mean,

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Speaker 16: Lady Gaga had had that had that song back in

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Speaker 16: twenty ten, twenty eleven, Born this way, that was a

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Speaker 16: big part of their movement. Well then you kind of

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Speaker 16: flip the screws. Then the transgender stuff comes wrong, and

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Speaker 16: it's like, oh wait, yeah, maybe you were literally born

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Speaker 16: this way, but no, subjectively you actually were not born

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Speaker 16: this way.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it literally doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 16: I mean, we see this kind of with Linda Sarsara

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Speaker 16: back when she was the head of the Women's March

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Speaker 16: as well, right, And this is someone who is who

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Speaker 16: is a Sharia loss sighting Muslim purporting to lead a

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Speaker 16: feminist march. I mean, are you kidding me? I mean,

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Speaker 16: how do you possibly square that circle? So, I mean,

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Speaker 16: here a Black Lives Matter and the Tide for Nation.

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Speaker 16: The Tide Foundation is of course the number number one

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Speaker 16: most most prominent left wing dark money organization in all

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Speaker 16: of the United States. So I mean this is another example,

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Speaker 16: of course, of the left eating its own and frankly,

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Speaker 16: as someone myself here, to me, this kind of looks

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Speaker 16: like the Iran Iraq war.

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Speaker 1: I pretty much just root for casualties.

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Speaker 2: Now, Donald Trump has another win, this time against Google

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Speaker 2: or YouTube to be precise, owned by Google. He's had

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Speaker 2: a number of these wins, Josh against ABC, CBS, has

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Speaker 2: had big wins against meta, Facebook and Twitter. And you

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Speaker 2: look at these legal wins and it's hard not to

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Speaker 2: think that there was a conspiracy of fun, a conspiracy

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Speaker 2: amongst these media outlets, those social media giants to effectively

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Speaker 2: deplatform the leading political candidate, that leading challenger to the

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Speaker 2: Democrats and to prevent his re election.

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Speaker 16: Reader, I mean, how anyone can possibly, you know, not

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Speaker 16: think that at this point strikes me.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 16: I mean, they pulled out all the stunts imaginable in

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty. In twenty twenty four, a lot of them

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Speaker 16: tried the exact same things again, and they've been on

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Speaker 16: this extended Maya Kulpla campaign. I mean, let's not forget

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Speaker 16: that this past January twentieth, on Inauguration Day in Washington,

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Speaker 16: d C. You had pretty much all the big tech oligarchs.

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Speaker 1: That attended this.

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Speaker 16: There was Jeff Bezos, there was Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk

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Speaker 16: obviously was there. Gool was in the House. So they've

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Speaker 16: been on this extended attempt to try to appease the

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Speaker 16: Trump administration. There now, for what it's worth, I remained

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Speaker 16: skeptical that all these companies have necessarily seen the lights,

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Speaker 16: so to speak. Mark Zuckerberg has been on hitting this

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Speaker 16: beat for at least a year now when he reports

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Speaker 16: open up meta and facebooks to free speech, and Google

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Speaker 16: just recently conceding for the first time that yes, I

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Speaker 16: actually did censor and deep platform consertive voices there. So look,

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Speaker 16: I think some of that are just trying to avoid

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Speaker 16: some sort of retribution there, and that's probably where these

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Speaker 16: settlements come in as well. But I guess I would

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Speaker 16: encourage Philip my fellow conservatives to not be so easily

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Speaker 16: I mean, don't be so easily duped here. The mere

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Speaker 16: fact that they that they are coming to the negotiating table,

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Speaker 16: whether it is defamation lawsuits, whether it is conceding that yeah,

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Speaker 16: they actually did really censor in deep platform here, that

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Speaker 16: doesn't mean that these c suite left wing Silicon Valley

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Speaker 16: Birkenstock wearing freaky ceo. It doesn't mean that they actually

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Speaker 16: have had a genuine change of hearts and that they

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Speaker 16: are suddenly joining team civilizational sanity against the forces of

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Speaker 16: civilization Artison. I personally don't buy it for a second.

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Speaker 16: So you know, I mean trust, but verify, they say,

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Speaker 16: in this case, I don't particularly trust, but I'm definitely verifying.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly before you go, We've had Hillary Clinton make

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Speaker 2: another appearance in the mainstream media decrying the influence of

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Speaker 2: white Christian men. How have you seen her interjection in

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Speaker 2: the political discourse and how useful is it to be

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Speaker 2: again trying to demonize white Christian men.

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Speaker 16: Well, that's what the Democrats do these days, right, I mean,

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Speaker 16: they demonize anyone who does not fit their particular or

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Speaker 16: interceptional conception of what it means to be a good American.

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Speaker 16: And you know, white Christian man, white straight Christian men,

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Speaker 16: I guess, are really kind of at the top of

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Speaker 16: the list of someone who checked pretty much zero interceptional

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Speaker 16: boxes that they are literally at the bottom of the

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Speaker 16: totem poll when it comes to the left. I mean,

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Speaker 16: I think a relevant question is what the heck is

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Speaker 16: is Hillary Clinton doing? I mean, like literally what is

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Speaker 16: she doing? I mean, what is what is her purposes

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Speaker 16: at this particular juncture? And I actually do not know

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Speaker 16: what the answer is. I mean I guess in theory

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Speaker 16: she might be looking for getting another book deal. I mean,

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Speaker 16: God knows what she could possibly write about that would

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Speaker 16: entertain a single human being. At this point there, she's

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Speaker 16: basically said everything platitoon isn't vapid under the under the

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Speaker 16: sun already at this point there. But I guess the

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Speaker 16: Clinton at this point, we just have an insatial desire

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Speaker 16: to be in the public lights. Recall also that you

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Speaker 16: know Bill Clinton, once upon a time and Hillary too

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Speaker 16: that once upon a time they actually call themselves religious Christians.

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Speaker 16: We can kind of scoff at at Bill's personal life

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Speaker 16: whatever they want. That's part of time call themselves real Christians.

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Speaker 16: So the fact that they have shifted this far where

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Speaker 16: they're openly mocking Christians near twenty twenty five, I think

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Speaker 16: really just shows how far the center of gravy of

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Speaker 16: the Democratic Party has shifted over the past few decades

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Speaker 16: as well.

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Speaker 2: Josh Amma, thank you so much for your time. Thank

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Speaker 2: you Rita, and that's it for May. I'll see you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at eleven Up. Next, it's Newsnights.