1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to healthy Ish. Thanks for joining us today on 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the Body and Soul podcast. I hope you are feeling healthish. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Of course, I am Felicity Harley, the host. We're talking 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: about the complexities of weight and health today and the 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: balance needed in weight loss approaches. My guest is the 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: fabulous nutritionist Lindy Cohen, and she talks about the significance 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: of sustainable healthy habits, the impact of sleep on health behaviors, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: and we also talk about how to save money while 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: still eating healthy. Lindy, Welcome back to healthy Ish. 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: How are you. 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm actually very good today. I slept so well 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: last night. 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh, and I bet you woke up you know you did? 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Good? Sleep are just so good, aren't they? 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: I have two kids of a four year old, one 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: and a half year old, so anytime I get a 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: good sleep, I'm like, this is the lottery, This is 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: the key to unlocking happiness and health and everything that 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: comes with us. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: So today is a good day, Today's going to be 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: a great day. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about something well, perhaps not great. Well 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: that there are upsides to this, of course, I mean, 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: as many of our listeners, no body and Soul recently 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: conducted a survey called Health of the Nation, and because 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: you are Australia's leading advocate into I'm calling it diet BS, 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: we have to talk to you about some of the 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: stats around well weight and weight loss. Fifty two percent 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: still worry about their weight. Fifty six percent of Australians 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: describe themselves as overweight in some way, particularly women, they 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: were sixty four percent compared to fifty five percent of males. 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts around all of this. 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Well, firstly, we do know that women tend to report 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: themselves as weighing more than they do and men tend 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: to report themselves as weighing a little bit less than 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: they do. But typically I think that these stats do 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: reflect what we know at a whole of how we're 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: going with overweight and obesity rates. 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: And I think I've got. 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: Two schools of thought here, one being that I think 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: we're told that being overweight is always awful and it's 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: a sign of poor health, and what we know from 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: the research and the building research is this isn't always 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: the case. What we do get is people who are 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: in that overweight category, who exercise daily, who eat loads 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: of veggies, who are doing lots of things that are 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: really great for their health, and as a result, these 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: people can be categorized as healthy. And so what I'm 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: saying is the BMI does not always nail it when 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: it comes to a reflective view on how we look 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: at health. And likewise you get people who are in 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: the healthy weight category and yet are doing very unhealthy things. 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: So I think it's not the beer and end all 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: when it comes to assessing our health. But at the 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: same token, I do know that there is a point 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 4: where you get to you just got you know what, 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little bit heavier than I want to be. 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: I've just come We're filming this in It's fab right 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: the wall, just come off the back of a holiday season. 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little bit heavier than I normally do. 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: As a result, I'm feeling like a little bit more sluggish. 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind losing a couple of kilograms. And this 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with aesthetics. This is simply I 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: want to feel really good in my body. And I 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: think there is, you know, a bit of a polarity 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: going on in the health world where there's one side 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: that says you're never allowed to talk about weight loss, 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: so you're never allowed to talk about your weight. And 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: the other school thought that goes, you must pursue weight 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: loss at the cost of your health, and who cares 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: what you have to sacrifice. I like to sit somewhere 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: in between, in the middle where we go we can 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: have balance, we can have moderation, and we can also 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: find a weight that feels comfortable for us, whatever that is. 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: You're so right, because I you know, I get a 77 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: bit prickly when I talk about weight loss because I 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: know it can trigger some people. But on the flip side, 79 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, our stats show that the majority of us 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 1: are over weight and obese. 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Maybe you know. 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: I've been thinking, is it the terms that we use, 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the language that we use. I mean, the word obesity 84 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: has so much shame around it, finger pointing. You know 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: that you're not that it's your problem because you're like 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: this when a lot of us know it's actually the 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: built food. 88 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: Environment we live in. 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: Is it a matter of the language and perhaps coming 90 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: up with a new definition of weight and weight loss? 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: Holly and I think beyond it as well. 92 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: It's what we're seeing from the stats of the health 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: of the nation is that people are changing the way 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: that they're eating and they're doing it for health reasons 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: beyond just weight loss. So it is this idea of Okay, 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: let's broaden our definition of what we know health to mean. 97 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: We know it's not as simple as BMI. We know 98 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: it's not as simple as categorizing someone as overweight or obese, 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: and can we have better conversations around it as or 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: we're not being avoidant of it? And I would love 101 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: a new vocab to go with it so that it 102 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 4: doesn't feel as shaming and polarizing. I'll tell you what 103 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: I grew up as you know what. I was fine 104 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: years old when I first realized that I was a 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: bit bigger than the other girls. 106 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: When I looked five years old, I. 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: Was looking in the mirror at ballet class, wearing a 108 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: pink leotade, and they had these straight up and down 109 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: bodies and my thighs touched and I just knew already 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: that was wrong, that wasn't as good. I played with barbies. 111 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: I got the message, but it wasn't until I was 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: eleven that I started thinking, oh, you know, I really 113 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: like to be thin. I was well within the healthy 114 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: weight range, but I wanted to be thin. So I 115 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: went to a nutrition that she put me on a 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: really rigorous meal plan, and instead of consistently losing weight, 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: I gained weight. And so by the age of twenty one, 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: I was morbidly OBEs I hated my body, I hated myself. 119 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: I thought there was something very fundamentally wrong with me, 120 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: that I had failed because I'd been given so many 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: rules about how to eat and how much to eat, 122 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: and in fact, I was weighing out my food. No 123 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: one was more obsessed with trying to lose weight than 124 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: I was, and yet I was the heaviest I'd ever been. 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: I went to my doctor I said I have a problem, 126 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: and he looked me in the eye and he said, well, 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: you want to try this new diet. 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: My wife is having success. And I wanted to yell 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: at him. 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: I have tried how long with this? It's just so 131 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: we know the era when so. 132 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm twenty one at this point. 133 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: Okay, this is a decade after I first started dieting, 134 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: and I was in twenty I was twenty eleven, right, Okay, 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: so we're coming out of that stringent, hardcore diet era. 136 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: And so my doctor was also kind of he wasn't 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: immror to this diet chat. And that was the moment 138 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: I think I realized, I've been obsessed with trying to 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: lose weight, and I am the heaviest and themost unhealthy 140 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: I've ever been because I'm obsessed. What happens if I 141 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: tried a different approach where I decented weight from my life, 142 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: and over the course of four years, I lost twenty kilograms. 143 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: And you know, this thing that I had chased my 144 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: entire life ended up just being a natural side effect 145 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: from adding in healthy habits that I could actually stick to. 146 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: And I realized in a very liberating moment that actually 147 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: it hadn't got to do with my will power. I 148 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: didn't need to be so forceiful. Of course, I needed 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: to add in healthier habits. I needed to change the 150 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: way I thought about food. 151 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: And it's almost like a. 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: Byproduct of having a healthy relationship with food, I found 153 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: a weight that was comfy for me. Now, they'll tell 154 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: you what. It's not my dream body. You know, my 155 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: pinterest for that I had when I was twenty one 156 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 4: years old. These girls are these like perfectly flat ads. 157 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: I will never have that body, and now, especially more 158 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: so after I've had kids, you know, she's just shaped differently, 159 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: and I've come to accept that. But I do know 160 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: what it's like to be at a weight that feels 161 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: uncomfortable for you. 162 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: And I also know what. 163 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: It's like to feel like that's something that's out of 164 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: reach for you and something that only other people can have. 165 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: And I tell you what, I think one of the 166 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: kind of key things to getting to that point when 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: you find a happy weight for you is patience and 168 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: realizing it's not a quick thing. For that twenty kilograms 169 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: happened over four years. That's even doubt. That's one hundred 170 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: grams a week. If I was pursuing weight loss like 171 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: I had been prior, I would have absolutely given up. 172 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: It totally would have led me to overeat and fall 173 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: off the band wagon, which was my old trick. But instead, 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: because I wasn't actually weighing myself, I ended up coming 175 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: back to a weight that felt very comfy for me. 176 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: So how I mean weight loss is one of the 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: likely goals of a lot of listeners. You know, whether 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: it's because you just want to feel better, it might 179 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: be those few kilos, or it might be you know, 180 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: a lot twenty kilos like you did. How do we 181 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: approach this in a healthy way? 182 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: Like? How did you lose that weight in a healthy way? 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 184 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: And then again I once I had my kids, right, 185 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: I gained weight to have kids, and I a year 186 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: of postpartum, I looked in the mirror and I go, shoot, 187 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: it's not about fitting into my old clothes or bouncing back. 188 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: But I don't have that energy. And then once again 189 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: I thought, you know what, I wouldn't mind losing a 190 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: bit of weight, and I did. 191 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: And the process to do this is is actually much 192 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: simpler than most people think. The first thing I did 193 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 4: is I go, what's a healthy habit that I can 194 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: add into my life that I can stick to for 195 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: the rest of my life? And I think this is 196 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: the bit where people mess it up. You're going You're 197 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: going to go, oh, you know, I can go heat 198 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: over for three weeks, three months, I could lose I 199 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: could intimate and. 200 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: Fast for the rest of the year. Cool. But even 201 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: if you can't maintain. 202 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: That lifestyle for the rest of your life or at 203 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: least for the next few years, any weight you do 204 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: lose is probably going to be regained, and statistically, you'll 205 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: regain more weight than your originally lost, which is what 206 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: happened to me time and time again, is how I 207 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: got to the point at twenty one being categorically morbidly abyes. 208 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: And what we want to do is go, I can 209 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: stick to this for the rest of my life. 210 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: What that might look like because you might go, right, well, 211 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: I want to add in more gentle movements. And I 212 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: tell you what, twenty minute walk that ends up happening 213 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: is far better than an hour at the gym that 214 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: you never end up getting done. Right, So we're looking 215 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: at done is better than perfect, and consistency is the 216 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: name of the gain. So can I do this for 217 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 4: the rest of my life? Or am I going to 218 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: feel deprived? And what makes you feel deprived or restricted 219 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: will shift as you evolve and you come out of 220 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: whatever relationship with food you might be in. And then 221 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: we go, okay, so I can do it. Now, there's 222 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: two things. There's got to be a balance between enjoyment 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: and discover So I want you to go, how can 224 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: I make this enjoyable or easier? Is another way to 225 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: do it. So you go, oh, do you know what? 226 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: I hate cooking food? It's just not my thing. Then 227 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: you go, how do I lower the bar to entry. 228 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the recipes are too complicated. Can I cook 229 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: simpler stuff? Can I cook twice? Cook once and then 230 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: eat it twice so I have a double the recipe 231 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: and I can freeze the other half. How do I 232 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: make things easier and therefore more enjoyable, much more likely 233 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: to stick to it? And then the other thing is 234 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: the discomfort. So after I had kids, going all right, 235 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: I want to lose a little bit of weight. The 236 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: question I had to ask myself is which discomfort do 237 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: I want? Do I want the discomfort of getting waking 238 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: up every morning and not having anything that fits me, 239 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: feeling a bit blur in my body? Or do I 240 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: want to sit with the discomfort of starting getting back 241 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: into exercise again and that feeling of I don't really 242 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: want to go, but you know, knowing I'm going to 243 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: feel good afterwards. So it's a degree of just choosing 244 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: which discomfort you want to roll with for a while. 245 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: And if you're someone like me who's been an emotional 246 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: eater their entire life, I find a thing that is 247 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: incredibly helpful is to break through that scarcity mindset. The 248 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset's going to tell you oh, you know, I'll 249 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: just finish the packet now, so I can kind of 250 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: like be good tomorrow and eat a house. It's perfectly 251 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 4: clear of all treats and whatnot. And a really simple 252 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: thing to remind yourself is anytime I want to eat 253 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: that food, I can. And I know that sounds like 254 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: the exact opposite of what you hear anyone else say, 255 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: but what it does is it helps your brain know 256 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: that food is allowed. Food's not going to run out, 257 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: it's not going to be taken away from you, and 258 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: therefore that compulsion to just finish it how quickly goes away. 259 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 4: In fact, sometimes if I imagine myself going, oh, I want 260 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: a second, I want seconds of dessert, I say to myself, 261 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: you know what, you can always have more later. And 262 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: I imagine myself taking a big piece of dessert, putting 263 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: it into a taperway container and taking it home. And 264 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: I'll do that if sometimes, and sometimes I won't. Sometimes, 265 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: simply thinking it is enough to relax that part of 266 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: my brain, that diet brain that goes, ah, we just 267 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: got to finish it all. 268 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: And eat as much as we can. 269 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: Well we allow ourselves practice that, and I actually feel 270 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: like it really helps helps you be consistent and with 271 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: the enjoyment, the discomfort and the consistency, you're going to 272 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: get there. 273 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: It might take a little bit longer than you once 274 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: but you're going. 275 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: To get there. That part of your diet brain, it's 276 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: almost you know, once you understand they're actually wired to 277 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: eat more. We've been that's how we've evolved and survived 278 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: as a species to have that part of our brain 279 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: that I see food, I need to eat it because millions, 280 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: for millions and millions of years, we never had food. 281 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: So I think in some way it's surrendering to that, 282 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: isn't it that This is of course what I'm going 283 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: to think. But what can I you know, can I 284 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: let's take that, take that as you said, Let's take 285 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: it home later and we can eat it later. 286 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: And that's okay. I mean, it's for me. 287 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: It's also understanding what's actually going on in our brains 288 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: and that that's how we're wired and that's how we're working. 289 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: And and yeah, I find that for me helps in 290 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: some way to stop eating the whole block of chocolate. 291 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: Spot on. 292 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: There's there's a mental talk going on. But it's kind 293 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: of interesting how it's contrary to this idea of I'm 294 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: not lad anymore, only one more piece, and how that 295 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: can kind of actually surge us to drive for more food. 296 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: And I tell you what we talked about at the 297 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: beginning of this chat. Sleep is fundamental to how you eat, 298 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: to regulating your hormones, particularly around appetite and fullness. Let 299 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: me explain it. If you do not get enough energy 300 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: through rest, your body will search for energy through food. 301 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: So I know this is tricky. I'm going to be 302 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: talking to parents and go I have a little kid. 303 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: I just can't get the shut eye. For me. My 304 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 4: goal this year is nailing sleep, prioritizing and getting to 305 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: sleep earlier because of how effectively it can help you 306 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: regulate your hormones and be a little. 307 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Bit more able to do that to feel in control 308 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: around food. 309 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the control. I mean, it's amazing the impact 310 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: of a bad night's sleep on your hunger levels, isn't 311 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: it When you're just like, oh, I just need to 312 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: eat and you know that you don't need to eat 313 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: because you've just finished lunch. 314 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Yes it lunch, Yeah exactly. 315 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about one other that I know blew your mind, 316 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and it was around healthy eating being one of the 317 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: biggest areas of cutbacks or compromise due to the cost 318 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: of living. 319 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Talk to us about this. 320 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 4: Gosh, isn't it a crazy one? So I think it 321 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: cost of living, no joke. It's really impacting all of us. 322 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: It is having a tremendous impact on our lives, on 323 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: how we're living. And one of the things we can 324 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: change is what we're eating at the grocery store. And 325 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: I think what's happening is we're going, oh, we need 326 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: to all just go budget. And what I don't think 327 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: people realize is actually healthy eating can be done budget. 328 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: In fact, it often can be cheaper. You just got 329 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: to know how to do it in a way that's 330 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: that's smart and that makes your life easier. So one 331 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: really simple thing is reducing food waste. So a you 332 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: think it's a quarter of ossies, the food and your 333 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: fridge is going to go to waste, and that is 334 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: a quarter of your grocery bow That could be hundreds 335 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: of dollars in a month, a. 336 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Lot of money. 337 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: That's huge. 338 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: Kids in Harley household. 339 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: Spot on, And it's simply by eating the food in 340 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: your fridge, And that could be a really tricky one, 341 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: and maybe it means you shop a little bit more, 342 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: or you get online delivery and it's twice a week 343 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: as opposed to just once a week. That kind of 344 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: thing can be done. But streamlining your life so that 345 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: your kid's actually going to eat your meals, I mean 346 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: easier than they're done. I have a little hack for you, 347 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: and I'm we jump into this because I think this 348 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: saves you a lot of money. One of my pet 349 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: peeves is when my kids don't eat a meal that 350 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: I've put in front of them and I've spent so 351 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: much time cooking and they say I'm not hungry, only 352 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: for an hour later to tell me they want a 353 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: million snacks. So a trick I found really effective for 354 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: any parent listening is as soon as they get home 355 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: from school, that's when I would love you to feed 356 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: them their most nutritious meal of the day, ideally their dinner, 357 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: so that when they are most hungry, they're going to 358 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: be most likely to eat that food and you're going 359 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: to find far less waste, far less fighting over meal times. 360 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: And then after dinner, if you're going, oh, I'm still hungry, 361 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: you can have a few of those snacks because those 362 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: single served snacks that kids love to eat are incredibly costly. 363 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: You're going to save lots of money by doing that. 364 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: And then the other thing I think is that idea 365 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: of cooking once and eating twice. So I find, especially 366 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: if I'm a sleep deprived parent and I come home 367 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: there's no food in my fridge, I will rate the 368 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: pantry for anything. So having a little bit of a 369 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: meal prep option is really really handy for saving me money. 370 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: It truly does, because I end up actually eating it 371 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: and I don't eat that single serve kind of stuff 372 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: and I need that for my lunch. So just kind 373 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: of chopping up a whole bunch of veggies ahead of 374 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: the week, they sit there together, and honestly, that's a lifesaver. 375 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: Actually, the snack thing is a really good point because 376 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: I think it's such an easy thing for all of it. 377 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: It's like, whether you know, for our kids or for ourselves, 378 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: just reach the snack. But they actually can be quite expensive, 379 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: and you might buy the little packs of popcorn where 380 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the bigger one might be better, and you just feed 381 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: it out over a couple of days. But we have 382 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: this thing in our household when it's about four thirty 383 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, it's last court last night, like last 384 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: call before dinner. 385 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: So it's almost like the bars clothing. 386 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, right, last call for snag, no other snack's, 387 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: kitchen's clothes until dinner. 388 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: That's the language really love. 389 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: So then my kids get into dinner and they're hungry 390 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: because so many of this, and I have many times 391 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: the kids have just snacked up until dinner and then 392 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: they eat nothing. So now we have the last snack call. 393 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: I'm stealing that. The other thing I've stolen is my 394 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: sister in law. She's a GP, she's got four kids, 395 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: and she taught me this. She said, while you're cooking dinner, 396 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 4: if you get home you haven't got a dinner prepped 397 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 4: and your kids are going, oh, really antsy for something, 398 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: you quietly chop up some veggies. 399 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: And you just put it in front of you. 400 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: I like that one. 401 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: You just let them quietly graze. They don't even know 402 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: what's happening, and they eat it and then they're filled 403 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: up on veggies before they even know it. 404 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: It's a hack. It's great. 405 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: We'll be back after this short break with more from Lindy. 406 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: What are some other ways that we can save well, 407 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: what should we how can we save money? And then 408 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: where should we spend money when it comes to health. 409 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon there's a lot of people spending a 410 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: lot of money on what I think is honestly wellness wankery. 411 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: It's the kind of superfood supplement where told that we 412 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: need that's like one hundred dollars per kilogram, and you 413 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: know what, it's just not key to being healthy. We 414 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: know when we look at the research consistently, we see 415 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: eat lots of fresh produce can be frozen, to veggies, fruits, 416 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: whole grains, a mix of things, and I think, you know, 417 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: sometimes we waste a huge amount of our budget on 418 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: those really top item things. Now, if you're saying to me, 419 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: I'm pretty, I'm super healthy. Actually I've got everything sorted, 420 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: I'm cooking, I'm eating all the produce. And you want 421 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 4: to level up, and you want to go on add 422 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: a little bit more, and you got the money to 423 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: spend on those like fun fancy supplements, go for it. 424 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: But I think sometimes we're missing the key building parts 425 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: of a healthy diet and we're going straight for those shortcuts, 426 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 4: and they're costing us a lot of money. We don't 427 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: feel good and we're not winning the gates. That's what 428 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: I would personally, I would save my money on that stuff. 429 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: Most of my grocery bill goes to produce. In fact, 430 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: I've started getting a veggie box, which is a rescued 431 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: food so it's fifty dollars for a medium box. All 432 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: my produce gets delivered. You know, it's seasonal, which means 433 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 4: it's healthier. It gets me out of my food rut 434 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: because I'm getting challenged to cook with foods I don't 435 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 4: normally cook with and I'm saving a ton of money 436 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: by doing this thing. But where I do spend my 437 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: money is I do spend my money on my gym 438 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: membership because it's the kind of gym where if I 439 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: do not turn up, they're going to charge me. And 440 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: you know what, it just really helps me be consistent. 441 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm turning up, I'm getting it done. And so sometimes 442 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 4: you can kind of use that fear of losing your 443 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: money to your benefit to help you be a little 444 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: bit more consistent. Yeah. 445 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: I like that. 446 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: And you're focusing something on something away from food that's 447 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: going to still help your health. 448 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, give you the energy. 449 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: It truly does help as well, it's amazing how exercise 450 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: really helps to regulate your hunger as well. And I 451 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: think one of the things I see is a super 452 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: common issue. The most common issue is people aren't eating 453 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: enough during the day, and they're coming home at night 454 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: and they're ravenous and they're super hungry, and then you 455 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: rate the pantry and you eat everything. So you need 456 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: to give yourself commit to eat a little bit more 457 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 4: during the day, and perhaps those snacks you're giving yourself. 458 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: I remember when I was growing up, for you know, 459 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: twenty eleven, the snacks that you're allowed, it's one hundred 460 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: calories snacks, and I'm so hungry, and give me more. 461 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: I find I like to think of it this way. 462 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: If you're adding in two hundred calories helps you avoid 463 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: one thousand calorie binge, you're going to save calories, you're 464 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: going to save money and headspace, and it's just a 465 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: smarter way to do it. 466 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Now. 467 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: The other way we can also well save money and 468 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: help our health is by cutting back on booze. And 469 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: you've joined up with the Lovely mas Compton, who have 470 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: had on the podcast a few times to help people 471 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: cut back on the booze. Tell Us about this new 472 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: venture of yours. 473 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've realized that, you know, I felt pregnant 474 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: and I realized, oh my goodness, my anxiety has disappeared. 475 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: I thought it was hormones. I you know, felt pregnant 476 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 4: the second time, and that's when I thought, you know what, 477 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: I think this has actually got to do with the 478 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: fact that I've been drinking alcohol consistently throughout my adult life, 479 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: and I have never gone through a significant period of 480 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: time where I've just experimented with drinking less, with not 481 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: drinking and seeing how it made me feel. I was 482 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: a default drinker, the kind of person you go, you 483 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 4: want a glass rose. I wouldn't take a pause, I 484 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't take a breath. Absolutely, I want a glass of rose. 485 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 4: And I just found that I was default drinking consistently. 486 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: And then when I stopped drinking alcohol and then I 487 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: became a mindful drink, I realized my anxiety disappeared. I 488 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: was sleeping so much better. I was saving so much money, 489 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: you know, because there's the wine when you drink when 490 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: you're out so expensive. 491 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: You have to get an uber there I'm back. Oh 492 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: my goodness. 493 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: So it's the easiest way to save money and feel better. 494 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: And I think this is what we've been told around 495 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: drinking less, is that you have to cut it out completely. 496 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: But I kind of think that having a healthier relationship 497 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: with alcohol can mean we can learn how to if 498 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: you want not drink, or become a mindful drinker, and 499 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 4: learn how to unwind without booze, learn how to socialize 500 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: without booze, and realize you don't have to be boring 501 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: or be bored when you're not drinking. And so boos 502 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: bra is an audio guide that teaches you how to 503 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 4: have a healthier relationship with alcohol so that you don't 504 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: feel like you're making bad decisions, so you don't regret 505 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: the things you said when you had too much to drink. 506 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 4: So you wake up on Sunday mornings and you go, oh, 507 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: I feel so good. So if you've never experimented with it, 508 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 4: I do say I think everyone should give it a go. 509 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm kind of at the point where I'm going, oh, 510 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 4: I feel so good not drinking. I can't imagine integrating it. 511 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: And I tell you what, I'm actually a party girl. 512 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: So are you drinking now? No? 513 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: Listen. 514 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: If it's a special thing and someone goes, oh, do 515 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: you want a glass of wine, like I had my 516 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 4: birthday dinner the other night. 517 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: I think I had a glass of wine, Thank you 518 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 3: very much. 519 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: Was divine and I had a glass of wine and 520 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: it wasn't a big deal. But then you know, I 521 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 4: probably won't drink again for a while. It's there are 522 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: no rules. 523 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: It's fluid. 524 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: I'm in control, and so it feels like a choice. 525 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: And if you feel like alcohol doesn't feel like a 526 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: choice anymore, it's just a default, then I reckon Booze 527 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 4: Break is a really good idea. And I think we've 528 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: got a discount to get fifty dollars off Booze Break 529 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: for any listeners. 530 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: I think in the show notes we can leave it 531 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: just gouged y. 532 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I will leave it a link to that in 533 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: the show notes. But you're right, actually this is not 534 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: a plug for WoT. But I wear a WOOT band 535 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: and when I was in overseas recently in Canada, I 536 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: drank a lot more than I normally, do you know, because. 537 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: We're going out for dinner a lot, and I'm with you. 538 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: I think a drink here and there is quite good, 539 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: especially in social occasions, you know, healthy and a healthy 540 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: approach I mean I only have one or two because 541 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: also connection with people is you know, and it is 542 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: around alcohol. I get that, and I get also why 543 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: people don't drink. But anyway, I had a few more 544 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: drinks in Canada than I would normally because I was 545 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: on holidays, and it's amazing how much it affected my sleep. 546 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: So the wort band tracks obviously how well you sleep 547 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: and how will you bounce back? And it just read 548 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: havoc on my sleep over there, So I think we probably, yeah, 549 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: I probably didn't appreciate how much alcohol does. Yeah, it 550 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: just sets you up. You're just getting that sluggish mindset 551 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: for the next day and the next day. 552 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never feel your freshest. 553 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: And I think we just got into this habit of oh, 554 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 4: I've had really stross day, come home, open a glass 555 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: of wine, open a bottle of wine, and then you know, 556 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: maybe it's one or two. There's so many of us 557 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: who just kind of like drinking to deal with life 558 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: a little bit. And the tricky thing to realize is 559 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: it's making life so much harder. And in a way 560 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 4: we think of it as a coping strategy, but what 561 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: if it's the thing that it's making you neique to cope, 562 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: and you've got to get out of this funk and 563 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: this feeling of I've just got to keep catching up. 564 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: I tell you what, I've never been more on top 565 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: of my life. I am a game. I don't forget 566 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 4: things anymore. I used to be a little bit like, 567 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, like I was dropping balls anymore. And 568 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, how did I not try this sooner? I 569 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: don't want to be preachy about it, but I think 570 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 4: it's just a fun thing to try. I don't mind 571 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: if anyone else drinks. I'm still a party girl. That's 572 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: the thing you got to know about me. Like I love, 573 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: I love to go dancing, I love a rave. I 574 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: still do these things, and I've learned how to do 575 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: it without drinking. 576 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. You don't have to give up 577 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: with your social life, please don't. 578 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that's still important for your mental health as well. 579 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: But you give up drinking here and there and you'll 580 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: save money too. Lindy, it was lovely to have you 581 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: back on healthy. Thank you for joining us today. And 582 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: well did we say Happy New Year in February? I 583 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: don't know, have a great year, have a great one. Guys, 584 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: get let's sleep everyone. 585 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you about amen. 586 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I hope you can walk away with some actionable tips 587 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: today on not only well how to lose weight the 588 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: healthy waif that's your goal, but also how to save money. Actually, 589 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: Lindy did say to me cook once, eat twice. She 590 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: said that a while ago, and I thought that was 591 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: a fabulous tip and I just wanted to yeah, share 592 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: that one and hopefully inspire you're cooking for this week now. 593 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: If you did like this chat, share with a friend, 594 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: leave a review, or let me know via DM at 595 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Felicity Harley. Now, the outherly exciting thing we have well 596 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: as well as the fifty bucks off booze broke that 597 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: Lindy talked about, is the Health of the Nation Challenge. 598 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Now all of you can receive a free month subscription 599 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: to the kickapp. You know Stephan Laura right if you 600 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: don't look them up, they are amazing and we are 601 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: offering for you to take part in a four week challenge. 602 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: It's very exciting. You need to get involved. I will 603 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: leave a link to that in the show notes. Anyway, 604 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: thanks again for listening or of our print edition which 605 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: is out and you're like cool Sunday Paper for US 606 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: and socials. Of course, Jump online, bodyansoul dot com. Thanks 607 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: again for listening, and oh you know it. 608 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: Stay healthy is