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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: I did a bit of deep thinking yesterday. Now that

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen often.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Not really, it's exhausted me. I'm a surface level guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what do I think about that? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no?

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of.

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Speaker 3: I'm a surface level guy, the greatest.

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Speaker 1: On the surf I've ever and what wonderful self awareness.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I then have to go more than say,

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds or possibly two minutes on one topic, that's

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Speaker 2: heading into areas that I'm not great at going, ha,

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Speaker 2: that's below the surface CHRISTI swamp and that scares me.

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Speaker 2: So I bumped into a girl yesterday that I hadn't

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Speaker 2: seen for probably fifteen years. And when we clicked and

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Speaker 2: I realized who it was, and she realized who it was.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's that moment too of will we acknowledge

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Speaker 2: that we know each other as we walk past, and

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Speaker 2: it felt like the eye contact had gone for long enough.

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Speaker 2: We had to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you just tell me where do you know her? From?

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Speaker 2: Radio entertainment? And she worked at the same radio station

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Speaker 2: that I did.

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Speaker 4: Ye, let's just let's just say radio, because you haven't

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Speaker 4: entertained anyone for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Let's just I could do two and a half minutes

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Speaker 2: on that and go deep, but I won't. I'm a

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Speaker 2: surface level guy. So then I said, Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know you lived in Sydney. Her first

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Speaker 2: comment was, wow, you've aged well. I thought that's Initially

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that's great. But in my deeper thinking,

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Speaker 2: I went to imagine if that was the first thing

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Speaker 2: I said to you, And then my thinking dropped even

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Speaker 2: lower to an area like the what is it the

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Speaker 2: Marianne What is it the Marianna Trench? Tom I went

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Speaker 2: as deep as you can go, and I thought.

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Speaker 1: There is a hole.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole language out there that can only be

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Speaker 2: spoken on a one way street. It can only go

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Speaker 2: from woman to man. It can't go from man to woman,

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Speaker 2: or social disaster will strike this planet.

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Speaker 3: Like if she'd said, wow, your boobs look great in

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Speaker 3: that polo. Yeah, that's that's not something you can say

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Speaker 3: to a woman.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have said it to you, and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again.

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Speaker 2: Especially the left one. But the other day we were

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Speaker 2: going to some event and we were there with another

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Speaker 2: couple Trent and Lisa. Anyway, Lisa had said to Trent,

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Speaker 2: why don't you dress more like this person and look

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Speaker 2: more like him? He said, imagine if I turned to

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Speaker 2: my wife and said, why don't you dress more like

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Speaker 2: Lisa Whipfley and look more like her? That's a one

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Speaker 2: way comment that can only go one way. Well, he

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Speaker 2: kind of got it, and he moved on from it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not kind for any gender really.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if a woman says to a guy, right,

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Speaker 2: you look tired, you kind of cop it. If a

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Speaker 2: is the other way World War three.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I think you're looking into this too much.

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Speaker 2: What about if a girl says to a guy, are

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Speaker 2: you seriously going to wear that? The guy goes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love this stuff. It's my favorite. If a guy

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Speaker 2: says to a girl, are you seriously going to wear that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well it's clothes off, woody on, go on your own

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Speaker 3: bombs guy.

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Speaker 1: I agree, yes, okay.

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Speaker 4: I even struggle now when I see a friend, a

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Speaker 4: female friend now, and I say you look great. Even

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Speaker 4: I even pause before I even say that, because then

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Speaker 4: in my mind I'm saying to myself, so what she

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Speaker 4: wasn't looking good before that?

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Speaker 2: That happened to me, I do, and that happened to

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Speaker 2: me in a group of mums the other day who

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Speaker 2: had been talking about how exhausted she was and how

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Speaker 2: much she had going on. And then I said, well, considering,

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Speaker 2: you look fantastic. And there was this awkward silence as

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Speaker 2: I stood there with five other women, and I went, okay,

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Speaker 2: so I've made a comment on appearance.

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Speaker 4: So you're wearing a leather vest at the time, which

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Speaker 4: was a bit weird.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to say to her, Hey, given everything,

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Speaker 2: we're all in the same battle, you look great. I

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Speaker 2: was trying to lift her up at the end of

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Speaker 2: the conversation, but she would have gone home thinking do

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Speaker 2: I always look terrible?

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Speaker 3: And on this day, if if we start overthinking everything

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Speaker 3: we say, thinking that, just even as you say, you know,

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Speaker 3: shallow thinking everything we say, we won't say anything at all.

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Speaker 2: We won't.

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Speaker 3: I think what you need to do is just go

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Speaker 3: with the saying. One of my favorites. It is better

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Speaker 3: to beg forgiveness than ask permission, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: So just say whatever's on your mind.

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Speaker 3: Say whatever's on your mind, and then if it's the

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Speaker 3: wrong thing, apologize profusely.

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Speaker 2: Later Tommy, you look like a grandma. I'm sorry if

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Speaker 2: that offended. I just want to thanks, begging for forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: It's Whip with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast great

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