1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Okay, we are coming back with more episodes of Witness 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: William Tyrrel and thank you to everyone, and I mean 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: everyone who's got in touch to ask when or even 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: if we're going to do this, and the answer is yes, 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: we are, and the first episode will be out next week. 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: But it has taken us a lot longer to get 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: here than we expected. It's taken months longer, and the 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: reason for that is that what we thought might be 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: simple got complicated. It was like every time we pulled 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: on a thread in this investigation, it's led us deep 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: into a maze, and we've had to follow all of 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: those tunnels, the right turns and the wrong turns, and 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: what we've found there has genuinely shocked us. I never 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: expected this investigation to get so dark, or that we'd 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: end up investigating other murders beyond William Tyrell's disappearance, but 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: that's what's happened. And doing this kind of work, finding people, 17 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: talking to them, digging out old documents, flying across the country, 18 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: all of that takes time. This is easily the most complicated, 19 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: the most demanding, and the most long running investigation I've 20 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: ever worked on. And the truth of it is that 21 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: we also would not have got to where we are 22 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: today about to release these four new episodes without you, 23 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: the listeners who've got in touch by email or by 24 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: social media, The people who we hadn't managed to track 25 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: down when we published those first episodes last year who've 26 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: come forward and spoken to us, either anonymously or on 27 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: the record, or the people who've come forward with more tips, 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: who've helped fill in the blanks and have really you've 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: helped shape this investigation ever since it started. Some of 30 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: you have already influenced the podcast. Others have been the 31 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: sources for other written stories about William's disappearance which have 32 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: been published by news dot com dot Au, and several 33 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: of your tips have also been passed on to the authorities, 34 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: who I hope, I really hope are also doing their 35 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: own investigating. Particularly, I want to mention the sheer number 36 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: of people who've got in touch with us to talk 37 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: about other suspected or convicted pedophiles who lived in the 38 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: area around where William was reported missing, Beyond the several 39 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: people who we've mentioned in this series so far, that 40 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: has genuinely shocked me. Or the other people who've come 41 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: forward to help put us in touch with other witnesses 42 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: or with sightings of William, some of which were reported 43 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: to the police, and not all of them, it seems, 44 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: were followed up. I want to say thank you to 45 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: everyone who's contacted us about crime Stoppers. I now have 46 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: a much better understanding of how that organization works and 47 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: what the police did or didn't do with the countless, 48 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: literally countless reports crime Stoppers received about William. And thank 49 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you to those who got in touch to talk about 50 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: police search dogs. They're not as reliable as you see 51 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: in the movies or sometimes as you hear about in 52 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: other podcasts. And finally, a special mention to the one 53 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: member of the public who attended the inquest and doesn't 54 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: want to be publicly identified. You know who you are, 55 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and from our conversations, you have a better idea than 56 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: most about what's coming up in the next four episodes. 57 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: For the rest of you, those episodes will be out 58 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: in a week, but here's a clip of what to expect. 59 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: They were gaut max like the someone had gouged skin it. 60 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: If he wasn't such a devious and a criminal, he 61 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: was clever, except well, I assume he's a pedophile as. 62 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Young girls and young. 63 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: Boys saying about he took him out to the forest 64 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: at here and tied him up to trees. I can 65 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: just see where I am right now in the shed 66 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: within the telling me this story of this young girl 67 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: that they picked up, and yeah, all had sex with her. 68 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: I have said all I'm gonna say about him, And 69 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: you would at least inquire and ask around and do 70 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of digging. 71 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had fresh and compelling evidence now under 72 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: the double jeopardy legislation, you could have him retry. If 73 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: you're looking at all these unsolved cases, why has no 74 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: task force publicly looked at those cases. We're waiting and 75 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: waiting on the afternoon, but you didn't come out. 76 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: That's next time on Witness, William Tyrrell