1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Pit Talk brought to you by Shannon's. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Cars are our passion, building, restoring or modifying. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: It's about making it our own. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 3: It's an obsession. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Shannons know what it's worth. That's why the. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Agreed value includes all your modifications. Get a quote online today. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: This is the moment, then, that we've all been waiting 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: for for in a romax. Here comes Oscar Piastree, Lando Norrith. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: They aren't playing hardball out there at the moment. Steve 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 4: Peeverchool Moment of twenty twenty four. 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: Hello, lord, Welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannons. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: On this week's episode, Mark Marquez is a world champion 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: again after emotional scenes and his title victory at the 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: Japanese Motorcycle Grand Prix at the weekend, and this weekend, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Formula One returns for the Singapore Grand Prix in what 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: could be an important weekend for the championship picture. My 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: name is Michael Lomonado. It's great to have your company 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: and the company of my co host. He's more than 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: a number. It's Matt Clayton. 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: Michael, good to join you, good to join everyone on 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: this week's show. And if I'm looking unusually chipper and 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: brighter is because we've had Motor GP in Australian daylight 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: hours and a world championship decided. So good times for everyone, 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 4: good times for Mark Marquas, good times for me. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: It's great times, great times everyone involved. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 2: Just look forward to the Formula One Championship being decided 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: in the sprint later this year, approximately two am, but 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: that's down the road. We can look forward to that 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: another time. We do want to start with Mark Markes. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Obviously we're between great weekend as well, for in the 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: sense that no other motors spought on full focus of 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: the motorsport community on a pretty remarkable occasion at the 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Japanese Grandpe Matigua, a circuit important in his career, important 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: in title deciding history in Motor GP, perhaps none chapter 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: more important than this one with Mark Markes getting it done. 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: We could tackle this from any number of angles, but 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: let's talk about his response after that race, which I 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: thought really summed up how important it was to him 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: to get this one finally over. 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: Look, this is not being a seven time MotoGP World champion. 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: It's an incredible achievement in and of itself, but the 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: journey from him to get for him to get six 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: to seven. He won six titles in his first seven 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: years in Motor GP. He won the title as a 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: twenty year old rookie, the youngest world champion in history, 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: and the way his career was unfolding, it just looked 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: about how many of these is he going to get 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: before he decides to walk away because he's bored or 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: he's made enough money. And then the record scratch on 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: his career is the first race of twenty twenty, the 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: injury he had at the Spanish Grand Prix, and all 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: of the missteps since then, some of which have been 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: self inflicted, where it basically paused his career for the 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: best part of four years with just multiple injuries and surgeries, 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: and he couldn't be the writer that he needed to be. 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: He's changed teams twice. He's now sneakily the second oldest 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: rider in Motor GP, which is not something you think 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: about with Mark Marquez necessarily, so for him to win 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: this World championship, which it's been inevitable for so many rounds, 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: now that he was going to win this, but to 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: see the raw emotions of a guy who has probably 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: become a lot more human over this second part of 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: his career that perhaps he was in the first part, 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: to see those emotions spill out where he didn't have 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: to hold on to them anymore. It was amazing TV. 67 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: It was amazing to see sportsman at the peak of 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: his powers just be so raw and unfiltered. And I 69 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: think it showed just what it meant to him because 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: of the journey it had taken from twenty nineteen to 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, everything he had to go through, He's 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: now back where he was. But this is not one 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: of these linear progressions from six to seven. 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it, Because it does feel like any 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: if you didn't know the context and you were color blinded, 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: didn't acknowledge the bike had changed color. Yes, this would 77 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: look like almost any other Motor GP season. For Mark 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Marquez's pre injury and that he seemed to essentially bloods 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: in the field throughout most of the season. Seven Grand 80 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Prix wins in a row, which is his most for 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: many years. I thinks I've done it once before in 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: three or fourteen. 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there he goes. 84 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: It feels a lot like almost any of those other seasons. 85 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: But it does feel like as you will over to 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: a different marquees this year, certainly in older marquees in 87 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: the seems to be approaching the battle. But he's definitely 88 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: gone about writing the wrong if you like, of that 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: injury in a way that feels very different. 90 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like simply picking up. 91 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: Relift, not at all. 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's two careers of a guy with the 93 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: same name, as far as I see it, And it 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: was really interesting in the immediate aftermath of Motigi. One 95 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 4: of the things he said that he said, I needed 96 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: to learn how to suffer, which was a really interesting 97 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: thing to say. As soon as you have won this 98 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: world championship, it's alludicic for six years. He needed to 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: learn what it was to go through what he went through, 100 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: to maybe appreciate what he was doing in the past 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: a little bit more, and to perhaps close this redemptive 102 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: arc on this story that seemed pretty unlikely for a 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: large chunk of the last five years. And you know, 104 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: it gets you're thinking, like, just major comebacks in any sport, 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: I mean motorsport. Probably the one that comes to mind 106 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: the most is Niki laud It with motorsport, But then 107 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: you look at just sport per se. You know, the 108 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: three that I keep coming back to Michael Jordan, who 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: chose to walk away, came back and was the best 110 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: player again after making three years out of his sport. 111 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: Monica Sellus, and we know what happened to her, her 112 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: career was stopped, and then she came back in one 113 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: Grand slams and Tiger Woods is the other one. Because 114 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: there was so long between his major successes because of 115 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: injury and personal controversy and everything else that went on. 116 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: It's a remarkable sporting story. It's not just a remarkable 117 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: Motor GP story. But I thought that the way the 118 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: sport handled such a momentous moment, the commentary, the presentation, 119 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: everything about it was you would have to have a 120 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: heart of stone to not be moved by what happened 121 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: in that Japanese Grand Prix at Motegi because of the 122 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 4: history that came before it, but also what it means 123 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: in terms of the sports significance moving forward. This is 124 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: one of the absolute all time greats coming up with 125 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: probably a very very unlikely championship. You don't often get 126 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: to see those two things together, and that's why it 127 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: was just such a special moment, I think. 128 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: And you were actually talking about this before the podcast, 129 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: and we're very straight into back to a conversation we're 130 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: having earlier, so we had practice for it. But we've 131 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: talked about this, and certainly the coverage talked a lot 132 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: about this being, as you said, one of the greatest 133 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: sporting comebacks of all time. Questions like that are always 134 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: going to be subjective, but certainly it's in that conversation 135 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: for everything he's gone through, everything he's dealt with. But 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Marquez has always obviously been a very special talent. The 137 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: way he arrived on the scene when some of the 138 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: all time greats were still racing, the way he's come 139 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: back and dominated riders we'd assumed were the next of 140 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: their era, the next generation, he's made them all look 141 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: like they've either not arrived yet or the generation too 142 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: far gone. What makes him so good and what have 143 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: you seen him this year that's made him better than 144 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: what we've seen before. 145 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: It's interesting he came in as this absolute force of 146 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 4: nature as a twenty year old rookie in twenty thirteen, 147 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: and his main championship rathers were Danny Pedroza, probably the 148 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: best rider never to win a Murder GP World Championship, 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Valentino Rossi, who is the goat, and Jorge Lorenzo, who 150 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: was incredible in his heyday, and he beat all three 151 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: of them to win the title as a twenty year 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: old rookie. That was astonishing in and of itself. But 153 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: it was what he did in those early days with Honda, 154 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: and that he would save crashes by digging his elbow 155 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 4: at his knees into the tarmac and somehow not falling off. 156 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: It was like a cat like he just fell on 157 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: his feet. The entire time. There was the aggression in battle, 158 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: there was the you know, he would respect his rivals, 159 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: but once the visor was down, he was as bloody 160 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: minded as they came. And you know, six titles in 161 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: the first seven years. It was clearly a means to 162 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: an end. It clearly was a way to win. He's 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: come back this time, older, wiser, yes, probably more rounded 164 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: in life terms. 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: Now. 166 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: You know, he's obviously grown up, but that knowing what 167 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: it means to suffer, I think has changed his outlook. 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: And it's interesting now in that he's now probably the 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: most cerebral rider on the motor to GP grid. He 170 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: probably rides smarter than anybody else in that he's the 171 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: he's the guy you know is going to have tire 172 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: left in the last five laps of a race where 173 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: everyone's shredding their tires because he's learned how to ride 174 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: not beyond his limits and rely on his talent to 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: save him like he. 176 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: Did in the past. 177 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: He now rides within his limits and then deploys that 178 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: extra bit that he has over everybody else when he 179 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: needs to now, not just because he can, and it's 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: the evolution of him as a writer, but also as 181 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: a person. He's become so complete you're really struggling to 182 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: pick up weaknesses now. And you think of the old Marquez. 183 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: Despite all the success, he would fall off a hell 184 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: of a lot. He would crash a lot during practice. 185 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: It was always his thing. Find the limit, go over it, 186 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: stay within it. Doesn't fall off very much anymore. He's 187 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: just become so so complete, and there's this aura about 188 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: what he's done in the past that makes him even 189 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: more formidable. And if you're going up against someone where 190 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 4: you're looking for the weakness, you're struggling to find one 191 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: with him. And as much as the last five years 192 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: has been held for him, I actually think it's made 193 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 4: him a better rider as far as his ceiling goes 194 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: over the course of his career. 195 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm going to ask you to summon 196 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: before we move on briefly to other motor GPS stories 197 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: in this extended interest address is expert, in which I'm 198 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: just going to be interested for most of the podcast 199 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: some of all of your predictive powers pre brys ball 200 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: mark marks we've talked about, and as is clear now, 201 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: the last five years of his career has been the 202 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: story of getting back to this point of overcoming injury, 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: accepting a lot of that was self inflicted, some of 204 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: it at least, and so on. What happens now though, 205 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: now that that box has been checked, does he just 206 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: go on now winning I guess literally for fun, beating 207 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: everybody else just because. 208 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Of the because he can. Or is this something else 209 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: that happens. 210 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the big question now, because I think getting 211 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: back to where he was in twenty nineteen has been 212 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: the sole focus and the driving force for him for 213 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: the past six seasons, partly because a lot of that 214 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: absence was self inflicted. You remember in twenty twenty he 215 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: tried to come back after a shoulder operation five days 216 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: for the second race of twenty twenty at Herath and 217 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: then pulled out. There were three subsequent surgeries. He did 218 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 4: the best part of a season and a half with 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: a right arm that was rotated thirty four degrees out 220 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: of place. Now, if you're listening to this, rotate your 221 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: right arm thirty four degrees out of place and try 222 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: and do anything. Pick up your coffee cup, A littlone wrestle, 223 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: a motor GP bike around one race is during that period, 224 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: by the way. But that's so grim. But it's interesting. 225 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: This has clearly driven him now for so long. So 226 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: what is there left to achieve? Is it a number? 227 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: Is it winning one or more marjor GP titles more 228 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: than Valentino Rossi? Now they both have seven? Is it 229 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 4: one hundred Premier class victories? He doesn't need the money. 230 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: He certainly doesn't need the adrenaline rush. You know, he's 231 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: ticked this enormous box. What fires him now? He's still 232 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: clearly young enough and good enough to do this for 233 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: as long as he wants to do. But there needs 234 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: to be an external stimulus for him. And right now 235 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure he would know what that external 236 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: stimulus is because this has propelled every decision he's made 237 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: since twenty twenty, when he made the mistake of trying 238 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: to come back to early. He now needs to find 239 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: that impetus. We don't know what that is. It'll be 240 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: interesting to see him try and understand what that is 241 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: and then verbalize it as we go forward. 242 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost think this is now the most interesting 243 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: part of the chapter because it's been clear that he's 244 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: had the ability. Wasn't he didn't lose an intervening time 245 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: quite a while. Now, what happens next now that goal's 246 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: been achieved? Very interesting one and a couple other stories 247 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: from the weekend before we move on. If you didn't 248 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: know anything that had happened in the last year, you 249 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: would have turned on if he just were only what'tched 250 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: last year and come back. Francesca and I had the 251 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: front dominating everybody winning, like it's easy for him. 252 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: What happened? Where's this come from? 253 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: What happened? The two words that everyone would lot the 254 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: answer to. It's funny because you know this is a 255 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: race that's in our time zone, so you can kind 256 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: of stumble across this as you're a casual sports fan. 257 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 4: Peco Banua won the sprint and the Grand Prix in 258 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: Japan last year. He won the sprint in the Grand 259 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: Prix in Japan this year, so I guess he's just 260 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: had a pretty smooth last twelve months. It was his 261 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: second Grand Prix win of the year and the first 262 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: one he inherited back at the Circuit of the America 263 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: Is in April, when his teammate Mark Marquez crashed out 264 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: of the lead. Peco has been completely lost for much 265 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: of this season. Ducati's GP twenty five bike doesn't give 266 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: him the feeling that he needs on the front of 267 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 4: the bike. Pecko's a precision instrument, right. This is the 268 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: way that he rides. Thing's perfect, and you could hold 269 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: every race in the laboratory. He wins most of the time. 270 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: He's this generation'sju Hae Lorenzo. Mark Marquez is this generation's 271 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: Casey Stoner. So Mark wi ride around the bike that's 272 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: not quite right, and if the bike's not quite right, 273 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: Pecko can't ride it. My understanding is they had a 274 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: one day post race test after Massano two weeks previously. 275 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: Where he was hopeless. 276 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: Bango finished out of the points in the sprint and 277 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: crashed from Nowhere'sville in the race. 278 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: It looks like they've. 279 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: Taken a lot of the twenty twenty four parts from 280 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: the bike he won eleven Grand Prix on last year. 281 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: It's still got the twenty five engine in it, because 282 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: that's homulligator and you can't change it. It's like a 283 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: lot of the characteristics of the body worker that twenty 284 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: four bike. They've almost created a bit of a Frankenstein's 285 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: Monster year because everything they've tried this year to this 286 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: point hasn't worked, and he's got increasingly frustrated by it. 287 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: And it was interesting his response. He was utterly nominant 288 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: at Motiki. He led every lap of the sprint, he 289 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: led every lap of the Grand Prix. No one saw 290 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: him after the first lap, and after the race he 291 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: was asked if he was happy that he was back 292 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: to he's winning ways, and he said, I'm happy, but 293 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: I'm also angry, and I think he's been beating the 294 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: drum to to Caddy, saying I can't ride what you're 295 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: giving me. I can't ride what you're giving me, and 296 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: it's almost like dec Caddie's throwing their hands up and said, 297 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: look all right, you could have bits of last year's bike, 298 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: the bits that we can give you, and whether that's 299 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: unlocked something mentally for him or physically, whatever the case, 300 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: he looked completely unbeatable over the course of the weekend. 301 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: Now caveat with this, Mark Marquez is riding thinking for 302 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: a world championship, right, So Mark was a little bit 303 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 4: stiff and quite nervous. Actually, it was quite weird to 304 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: see the way Mark rode over the weekend. Now that 305 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: you know there's nothing at stake as far as the 306 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: championship goes, wouldn't it be super interesting for these final 307 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: five rounds if we get evidence that a. Vanya's back 308 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: to being Van Yai and Mark can just go and 309 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: race now there's no championships to think of or anything else. 310 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 4: Maybe belatedly we get this really intriguing fight at the 311 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: front between these two teammates that going into the season 312 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: was the story we thought we'd see, and we just 313 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: have not seen it because Mark's been that good and 314 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: Banya has been that poor. 315 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: And finally Joge Martin's broken collarbone a pretty awful crash 316 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: in the sprint, wasn't it Yep? And uh, not great 317 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: for guys who already been into so many times. But 318 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: as I understand it, in Motorgiver. He'll be back this week. 319 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: He might even take a weekend off. He went back 320 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: to Barcelona for surgery. He broke his right columbone. Horrendous 321 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 4: first corner accident in motigue. It was one of those 322 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: ones you hide behind the couch to make sure everyone's okay. 323 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: His fourth major injury of surely the worst World Championship 324 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: defense of all time. He will miss Indonesia. Don't be 325 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: surprised if he's in Australia in two weeks. Motor GP 326 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: guys are a little bit different, and there's three whole 327 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: weeks between now in Philip Island and well, that's fine 328 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: for a colombone, it's an anti clockwise track, you'll be fine. 329 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: But whether he turns up for Australia and Malaysia, strong chance. 330 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: But no Indonesia this week. 331 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that's for the best. 332 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: For everyone's sake. 333 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: Home, stay home, goodness sake. 334 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Have you want more of Matt's thoughts, of course, you 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: can download the Pittalk podcast later in the week, the 336 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Motor GP edition, Yes, which would be chatting at length, 337 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: undoubtedly about the significance of this title win in Japanese 338 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: Grand Prix and previewing this weekend's race in Indonesia. But 339 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: let's move on to Move of the week, brought to 340 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: you by shannons. 341 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: All Minor GP. This weekend a bit of passing. 342 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: Obviously there was passing the Palian significance commited to what 343 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: happened over the course of the weekend. 344 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: But what caught your eye. 345 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: I think that caught my eye was the significance of 346 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: a pass for what it meant in that the twenty 347 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: twenty world champion, Juan Mia passed Pedro Costa halfway through 348 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: that race to finish third. Not really the headline story 349 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: after Banyai's resurgent victory and Marquez winning a historic world championship. 350 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: For Mia, that's his. 351 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: First podium since the end of twenty twenty one and 352 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: the first HRC Factory Honda podium since two years previously, 353 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: when Marquez finished third at Motigi. Finally enough, this is 354 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: a team and an organization that just won races for fun, 355 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: particularly during the Marquees era. But you think Casey Stone 356 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: won world championships there? They had Rossi back in the day, 357 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: Danny Pedroza, who I mentioned, significant for Honda, significant for 358 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: meir becase there's been sixty eight races. This has been 359 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: on a podium, and this is a guy who won, 360 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: you know, the World Championship that Marquez didn't win because 361 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: twenty twenty when he hurt himself and he's had so 362 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: much bad luck and he's hurt himself so many times. 363 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: He's a different motor GP rider when he's on something 364 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: he can believe in. 365 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: He's all action. 366 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: Super fun to watch to see him on this historic 367 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: podium on this historic day. The move that got him 368 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: there in the fact that he sustained it. He didn't 369 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: crash for once, which is normally Joan Amir's big problem. 370 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: So the move and what it represented was the move 371 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: for me in a race that got a little bit 372 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: stale because of the other side stories going on it. 373 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: But you mentioned no supercause, no f one, so I'm 374 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: assuming you also have a motor GP move in mind. 375 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Well that's correct. 376 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going for many reasons already talked about Banyaya 377 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: overtaking if. 378 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: You will, the track record, Oh my god, the. 379 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: Lab just because at that point in the weekend we 380 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: didn't when you're in practices on he's been fast, but 381 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: you never know him to rubber really hits the road. 382 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: In qualifying and then the race sessions, but it showed 383 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: that this weekend felt like something we haven't seen for 384 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: a long time from him, not even just talking about 385 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: the glimpses of speed with the sustainable speed, the confidence, 386 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: the way he talked about his nag got something he 387 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: can push on, that he can be confident in. This 388 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: felt like, I mean, I don't want to say it, 389 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: but it felt like a turning point. 390 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Not just for results. 391 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: We shouldn't just expect him to come back and start 392 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: winning races whatever, but it just felt like mentally there 393 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a change here that we 394 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: haven't seen that those other races where you know, it 395 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: felt like, oh maybe he'd cracked something here or there. 396 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: This felt more important than that. 397 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 398 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: And that's my overtake over the week. 399 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: No, I agree, in a lot of ways, he's sort 400 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: of overtaking his own self doubt and a lot of 401 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: respect the fact that he was. 402 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: Confident enough to put it all on the line. 403 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: To my mind, Q two Emoto GP is one of 404 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: the most fun things in motorsport because there is you've 405 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: got one lap on one tie with no fuel in 406 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: these things, and this is where these guys take every 407 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 4: risk imaginable and for him to obliterate the track record 408 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: and a really really hard circuit the way he did, 409 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: that's the sign that this could be the start of 410 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: something bigger. 411 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: So I think it's a good selection, yes, so anyway, 412 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: but look, I'm happy to take the weird overtake for 413 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: this one, absolutely left field overtake. 414 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my territory. 415 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: Let's move on now, though, to this weekend on track 416 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: action in Formula One with the Singapore Grand Prix. The 417 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: sport has left Europe when now those final flyaways, we 418 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: are in Asia. Don't look at the time of the 419 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: race though, it looks very much like we're still in Europe. 420 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: But that's okay. 421 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: This is one of the most challenging races on the calendar. 422 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: It is at night, but he under Lights is its 423 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: own challenge and if anyone's been to Singapore with that 424 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: part of the world is humidity in the heat doesn't 425 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: really go away just because the sun has gone down, 426 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: and it is a challenging street track as well. We'll 427 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: talk about the physical elements of this in just a moment, 428 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: but I want to reset the championship picture here. Oscar 429 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: Piastri still leads from Lando Norris twenty five points. It's 430 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: sixty nine points back to Maxwstaff, and that's still a lot. 431 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: We talked about the permeations on last week's podcast after 432 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: the Azerbaijian Grand Prix, but this race feels like an 433 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: important one because we're going to learn something this weekend 434 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: about the title fight, about where it is. It feels, 435 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: I don't want to necessarily say delicately poised, but it 436 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: feels like it's on a prespst. Maybe we didn't expect 437 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: there's an obvious sense of flow at the moment. If 438 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Oscar Piastre wins, it'll be a change in form because 439 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: he's been pretty well handled by Lando norris O for 440 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: the last two years. 441 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Ferlander Norris wins, that'll. 442 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: Probably feel important to him, getting a bit of the 443 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: momentum back in the title. If Ma's the Staff and 444 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: wins a track red Buller hasn't Red Bull Racing hasn't 445 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: won out in eleven years that he's never won at, 446 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: that's going to feel important too. I think the word 447 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: precipice is a really good one here because it feels 448 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: that there's significant ramifications for whichever of those three plot 449 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: lines you just outline there, which one of those becomes 450 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: the predominant storyline over the course of the weekend. There's 451 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: so much for all three of these guys to gain 452 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: a in and of themselves. Would be what that does 453 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: to the other two that are in this title fight. 454 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: And I use air quotes here because it might not 455 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: be an actual fight. Toe you what if for Staffen 456 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: wins this weekend, then I reckon it's absolutely going on 457 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: for the three of them. But it's a real It's 458 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: not a tipping point of a weekend because there's so 459 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: many races left to go, as you will know, and 460 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: you know, so many late knights and what have you 461 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: is do to come. But this race is it's significant 462 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: in that he's so challenging. It's it's the biggest He's 463 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: the biggest test of the Formula One season. 464 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: Let's be honest. I feel that. 465 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: Doing well here is significant at any time. But with 466 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: this really interestingly poised situation we find ourselves in which 467 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: before Monza we never would have been having this conversation. Right, 468 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: So you've had Piastre finally has a dn F, Norris 469 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: has a chance to punish Piastre and Azerbaijan and doesn't 470 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 4: and from kind of nowhere and Red Bulls just being 471 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: chaotic all year, and you know, Christian Horner goes and 472 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: you never would have thought it would have ended up 473 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: like this. And for Stappan's gone on one back to 474 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: about Grand Prix and it feels believable and sustainable and 475 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: we know how good he is. So the word precipice 476 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: is a really good one because it feels that whichever 477 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 4: one of those things comes true that you outlined before 478 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: is really significant. But what's the knock on effect for 479 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: the other two. It's super delicately poised. 480 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I almost feel like it's hard to 481 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: say who's got most risk here. I think for Stappin, 482 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: probably not, because no one's one hundred percent convinced he's 483 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: in this fight yet. Right he's on he's in a 484 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: position where he could pull himself into it. 485 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: But I think he's defeated here. He's off the podium, 486 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: for example. 487 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: I think just points why it's going to make it 488 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: too difficult even if he does have this great run 489 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: to the end of the year. So I don't want 490 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: to say there's too much at stake for him, because 491 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: I think even he himself probably wouldn't have believed he 492 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: could be this relatively close to the fight only a 493 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: couple of races ago. 494 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: Lando Norris. 495 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm not totally convinced either, because I think that while 496 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: he could, he's not going to lose the title this weekend, 497 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: but a big blow this weekend could be significant. If 498 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: he loses ten points, let's say, that'll feel important. But 499 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: for Piastria, maybe its steak is not the way I 500 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: should have set this up. But I feel like this 501 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: is almost a more important race for him because we 502 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: had that such uncharacteristically poor weekend in Azerbaijan, and it's 503 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: something we haven't seen fro him before. So we're now 504 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: a little bit in uncharted waters except for the fact. 505 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: And you can make this likeness if you like. After 506 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: Australia is an example, the last important mistake he made, 507 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: and yes it's an asterisk on that because the weather 508 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: arrived and Norris went off as well, but he rebounded 509 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: by winning in China and being directly on a trajectory 510 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: back into the title lead. Yep, do we see the 511 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: same from him this weekend? I think that's an important question. 512 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And this feels to me like you know you 513 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: mentioned before, this should be much more of McLaren track 514 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: than either Monza or back who were previously. And to 515 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: my mind this is almost like an away game for 516 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: Oscar Piastre and a lot of respects despite the fact 517 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: there'll be a million Australians up there because it's so 518 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: close and the time zones very profitable for us. But 519 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: to my mind, this Norris question is not in isolation 520 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: at a track where he's been good and McLaren's been good. 521 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: It's because it comes after Bakho where he didn't punish 522 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: the true rare Piastre mistake or almost unfoseen. 523 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: You know, we've never seen. 524 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: This from Oscar before, so to my mind, the fact 525 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: that Norris didn't necessarily capitalize on that, I think it 526 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: almost puts more pressure on him this weekend to convert 527 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: to a track where he's won before it has been 528 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: good in a car that should be good. Anything less 529 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 4: than that, those missteps compound a little bit, and so 530 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: that's the interesting part for me, and that, Yeah, Piastre 531 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: has had his wabble. He bounced back so well in China, 532 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: as you mentioned, but because of what Norris didn't do 533 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 4: in Bakhu. Anything less than no going out and winning 534 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: this weekend feels like as much an opportunity loss, but 535 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 4: just not an advantage gained. I know that sounds I'm 536 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: sort of speaking in tongues here, but I think you 537 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean here. There's much more Norris needs 538 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: to have the weekend perhaps he didn't have in Baku, 539 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: and then if that happens, then we will shruggsholders and 540 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: go well, of course, because this goes to the script. 541 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: But what we've seen in the past two rounds is 542 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: that nothing's going to script anymore, and so I have 543 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: much more confidence in Piastre being able to bounce back 544 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: and have a good for him in Singapore result. If 545 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 4: he was to finish second or third, I think that's 546 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: a perfectly par result for this year. If he was 547 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: to win Singapore, that's massive for the terms of the 548 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: championship and the inter team play within McLaren. But I'm 549 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: looking at these next two Singapore and Austin as if 550 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: Piastre can say Piastre ships ten points to Norris in 551 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: these next two races, because they strike me as both 552 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: being Norris circuits. That puts him in a really good 553 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: place for these final five after that, because I think 554 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: they're much more at circuits that will play more to 555 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: his strength. So it's not a ticking clock on Norris yet, 556 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: but we're starting to wan the ticking clock up a 557 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: little bit. 558 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. 559 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: And I really like the way you put the Norris 560 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: question here because it does feel like if he didn't 561 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: take that opportunity in Azerbaijan, when will he take an opportunity? 562 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: That's the question for him. Now the points are still there, 563 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: it's achievable. He can still go out and win this 564 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: through the force of his own performances, not out of 565 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: his hands. But if he doesn't do it, if he 566 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: didn't do it in Baku, when will that happen? And 567 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: this is these two and these two next races are 568 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: a great example because they are in the brief history 569 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: of his teammate partnership with Oskopia two years. But they 570 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: have been Norris tracks. I've always been at least the 571 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: step ahead of the next two. Mexico is a little 572 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: bit more Mexico as well, but it's a bit more 573 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: random because they've had such unusual results there and it's 574 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: a weird track. But the next two is they're going 575 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: to be really indicative and this weekend, particularly considering the 576 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: challenge of this. 577 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: Track, I think we'll be worth watching. 578 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to touch on that challenge of this 579 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: circuit as well, because it is again to revisit that 580 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: extremely physically demanding, only marginally less so since they changed 581 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: the tracks slightly temporarily, I believe to do some construction work. 582 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: There's another longish straight there now, and yes you're on 583 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: a chance to cool down, but it's still pretty punishing 584 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: and there are rookies at this venue that will never 585 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: have been to this track before because it's not a 586 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: regular on the F two or the F three calendar. 587 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: You have to have essentially been a wealthy gentleman driver 588 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: in a Ferrari to racing this track. Yes, not as 589 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: a Formula one driver, and none of them fit that feel. 590 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: Isaac Kadjau out of a Beerman, Gabrielle bought a letter 591 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: and Kimi Antonelli, all completely new to this track. This 592 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: is a track of drivers often talk about as well 593 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: as preparing for four months before the race. This is 594 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: going to be a big test for these drivers as well, 595 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: some of whom and Tonally I'm thinking of in particular, 596 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: need a little bit of momentum to continue this season. 597 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: I think we shouldn't underestimate just how brutal a challenge 598 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: in this place is. Like if you've spent any time 599 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 4: in Singapore going out in the day, you're exhausted three 600 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: minutes you've been outside, quite frankly. But at night, you're 601 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: racing at night in very very hot car, in fireproof 602 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: overalls and a helmet and all of the other things. 603 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: The concentration, the fact that at night you're tricking your 604 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: body to be on sort of European time zone, despite 605 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: the fact that you're eating and sleeping and doing all 606 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: sorts of things. 607 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: At very very random hours. 608 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: I don't know if you can necessarily prepare. No preparation 609 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 4: is enough for your first Singapore. I think getting through 610 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: your first Singapore. I remember Daniel Ricardo's first Singapore. He 611 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: thought he was ready for it. I think he lost 612 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 4: two and a half kilos during that race and was 613 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: absolutely shattered to the point where he was just in 614 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: the fleetal position about two days afterwards. And he thought 615 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 4: he was prepared at the time, and you know, subsequent 616 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: years he was clearly prepared and he had better conditioning 617 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: but until you've experienced it and you look at someone 618 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: like Antonelli, I mean, this is such a challenge. There's 619 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 4: nowhere growing up as a European driver you can be 620 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: permotely ready for this sort of thing and he's a kid. 621 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't doing that when I was eighteen. Is no chairs. 622 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: But the other part about this as well is that 623 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: they don't you don't get Malaysia anymore on the calendar. 624 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: It's almost like a bit of a soft landing as well, like, well, 625 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: Singapore will be worse than this, but if you can 626 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: get through Malaysia, you can get through Singapore. We don't 627 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: have Malaysia on calend anymore. So it is such an outlier, 628 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 4: one of one there. There's nowhere like this place, And 629 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: it's a factor in that last into the race where 630 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 4: everyone's just hanging on at this point and it's hot 631 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: and you might be stuck in a DRS train somewhere. 632 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: The concentration element, it's another element to this particular race 633 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 4: that makes it super intriguing because it's grueling and that's 634 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: not a word we use with Formula one these days 635 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: very often. 636 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: No, because it is fundamentally it's the challenge of even 637 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: a fit athlete. An athlete too obviously, after twenty odd 638 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: races a year is pretty good at being in a 639 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: racing car and going. 640 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Fast, but this takes it to another level. 641 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: If you want to imagine what the challenge is like 642 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: without the preparation, go back to a couple of years. 643 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Go to the Cutar Grand Prix. There was twenty twenty 644 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: three was yes where. 645 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: If one return to that track, it was a slightly 646 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: unusual time of year compared to where we have it. 647 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: It was brutally humid, The conditions were really difficult and 648 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: it was a night race still, so there was no 649 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: sun element, no desert sun element. We had was it 650 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: a logan sergeant at the time Withdrew because he fainted 651 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: from here stroke in the car. Essentially Lance strolls pass 652 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: was Sickny's helmet, I think well. 653 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: And the other factor there was because there was some 654 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 4: issues with the Pirelli rubber. Remember, so there were mandatory 655 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: pit stops in that race, which meant everyone had to stop, 656 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: which meant everyone got to push flats out for three 657 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: stints in a race that was much earlier in the 658 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: year and no one was prepared for it. 659 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: It was a war zone. 660 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: After that race, they were just dropping like flies and 661 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: that was just such a one off that they've never 662 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: had the race at the same time of year again, 663 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: and they've taken hard and tire compounds. We'll never see 664 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: a repeat of that. But Singapore is this challenge annually 665 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: every single year it comes up and it's going to 666 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: bite someone. And you mentioned those rookies. As much as 667 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: other drivers will tell them and as much as they've 668 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: been preparing for months, as you've said, there's going to 669 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: be some pretty sore and sorry people by the end 670 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 4: of Sunday night, because unless you've done it, you don't 671 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: know what it's like. 672 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: I'd be grateful that there's a weekend off after this race. 673 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: I think absolutely everyone will be really, anyone who's been 674 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: in the car, we'll think that. Before we wrap up, 675 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: let's go to the Crystal Ball brought to you by 676 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: Compleet Home Filtration. A couple of races on this week, 677 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: not only Singapore, but the Indonesian Motorcycle Grand Prix as well. 678 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Where are you taking it? 679 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to stick with the two wheel 680 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: theme because I suspect you're going to go with a 681 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: four wheel one and I think we're going to see 682 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: our first proper head to head between Peq Marquez because 683 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: it's the earliest of World Championship has ever been decided 684 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: five races before the end of the season. So the 685 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: way I'm seeing these five races is everyone could just 686 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: put the Q in the rack, but there's too much 687 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: at stake here for someone like Banyaira and trying to 688 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: prove that Motigi wasn't a flash in the pan. Marquez 689 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: now doesn't have to think about the World Championship. To 690 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: my mind, twenty twenty six might be starting this weekend, 691 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: and that there's so much in terms of momentum and 692 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: narrative and storyline, we might get five pretty interesting races 693 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: before the end of the season. Now because of what 694 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: it means for next year, We've got a lot of 695 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: riders staying in the same positions for next year before 696 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty seven rule reset, and there's going to 697 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: be people scattering everywhere. To me, this is the beginning 698 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty six pre season, and the way 699 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: these last five rounds might play out, we might get 700 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: our first Banyaya, Mark Marquez and Duel as teammates, which 701 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: it's round eighteen we haven't had one, so I think 702 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: it's not before time. I would love to see it 703 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: at a track that's pretty peculiar. It's a track where 704 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: Mark Marquez has never scored a point, not even a point, 705 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: not even a point, because he's beaten himself up with 706 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: some horrendous crash twenty twenty two. We have one of 707 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: the biggest accidents of his career there, so he's got 708 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: a score a settle with that place. But yeah, is 709 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: this Banay momentum real? I'd like to see it played 710 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: out on Sunday, But you're clearly going to be going 711 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: F one Singapore here, and I don't know whether it 712 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: involves a giant lizard crossing the track or anything else. 713 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: That's a given. That's manager that has to happen, Yes. 714 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: But I suspect it won't be wildlife. It will be 715 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: something else. 716 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: No, I'm going straight for Maxis Stafford, who arrives here, 717 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: we should say, with three wins from the last four races, 718 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: three race at Theurgreen at the weekend, just because he 719 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: had the time to go and have a. 720 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: Crack noburg Gring would be good preparation for Singapore. 721 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: Whether Yeah, yes, Well, I mean the concentration for what 722 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: is it twenty kilometer for the Nord's live some element there. 723 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win. 724 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna win the Synapore Grand Prix the first time 725 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: in his career, which in itself is a remarkable statistic, 726 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: perhaps similar to Marks never scoring a point in Indonesia. 727 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: And I just think the consequences of that victory to 728 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: track that this car shouldn't perform well at It's the 729 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: only race Red Bull didn't win in that year. They 730 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: won every twenty twenty three couple of years ago. 731 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: As a Ferrari win. Then I don't think that's going 732 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: to happen. 733 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: Then again, the first time we don't predict the Ferrari win, 734 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: probably the weekend's gonna happen. I think it's gonna be Maax. 735 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be through the title cat 736 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: amongst the pigeons. 737 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot to talk about it. 738 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: And we've said this before that you know a lot 739 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: of people think that, you know, journos have a certain 740 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: bias towards the drivers of nationalities or whatever. We're cheering 741 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: the narrative here. I will be sharing that narrative very 742 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: very hard because in terms of what that sets up 743 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: for the remainder of the season. 744 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Bring it on, I say, yeah, I think it's going 745 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: to be very interesting. But that's all the time. We 746 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: have a pit Talk today. You can subscribe to pit 747 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: Talk wherever you get your favorite podcasts, and you can 748 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: leave us a rating and review as well. This weekend 749 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: it is the Indonesian Motorcycle Grand Prix with lights out 750 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: at six on Sunday, followed by the Singapore Formula One 751 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: Grand Prix at eleven pm. 752 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: And yes that is daylight saving time. Yes, just remember that. 753 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: Yes, you can keep up to date consulting local guides 754 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: with the latest F one HDTV in Supercars news at 755 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: Foxsports dot com dot au from Matt Claveman me Michael Lomonado. 756 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for your company and we'll catch you 757 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: next week.