WEBVTT - Credlin | 29 July 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.480 Pre youd Quedlin Live from year twenty four. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.160 Good evening, Thank you for your company. Welcome to the program. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.600 Here's what's coming up tonight on Kredline. It seemed to 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.400 could be all the talk yesterday all about Ben Carroll. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.880 Well today too, Jim Chalmers obsessed with one nation clearly 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.119 when nation's biting into Labour's vote. I bet that's what 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.239 the internal party polling is telling them. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:27.400 We'll get to that in a moment. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.400 If lation down today, good news for struggling families, But 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.600 has the treasurer junk the gun and claiming it as 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.560 his win. Those underlying numbers aren't good, particularly in a 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.440 state like Victoria. Our business guru Ross Greenwood will join. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:43.080 Me for his take. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.760 Bad news to Chris Bowen. He's wasted millions of your 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.920 money booking out all of those luxury hotel rooms in Fiji. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.040 Well we learned today most of the world leaders have 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.920 said thanks, but no thanks. We're not coming, Chris. We're 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.920 not coming to your climate change talk fest. Victorian Premier 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.360 Ben Carroll first day in the job, So what of 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.679 voters made of him. I've got more to show you later, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.440 but here's a little of their verdict. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.120 Hi, do you know his name? 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.080 No, because he's a labor I'm just concerned that maybe 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.319 they're more visiom similarities here. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.080 Are you happy that he's replaced us into Alan as Victoria? 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.200 We'll stay with that. Day one in Victoria's top job. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.240 It was not an auspicious start for the new Premium, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.920 Ben Carroll out at the kmart where he'd worked as 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.800 a teenager. In fact, it was a comedy of errors. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.319 Our own Pete Stefanovic was covering it on air this 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.480 morning and it went so wrong so quickly that it 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.520 promptly was turned into an ad by Liberal HQ. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.480 Things are not getting off to a good start here 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.920 from the New Premiere because apparently he's insisted on doing 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.640 this press conference in the basement of a kmart. So 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.960 if you want your message to go out live, you're 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.760 going to need better reception. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.160 So he's trying to be the new guy. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.760 He says forget the past, But are people going to 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.200 forget the past because he was part of previous governments. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.760 Yeah, well, not a good start. I would say. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.839 Now two things out of this, Two things that are instructive. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.800 The first, most obvious is that Liberal HQ's now running 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.560 at a pace that we haven't seen in many years. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.560 It's grabbing Labour's mistakes and it's turning them into real 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.519 opportunities online and fast. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:31.800 So well done there. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.360 But the second thing I want you to pick up 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.880 tonight is that Labour's internal machine is starting to fail. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.560 Working upper stunts, you know, heading out to kmart. You 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.400 might think that someone would think to check whether the 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:51.079 basement had mobile phone coverage. After all, without it, there's 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.519 nothing for the media to run, so basement, Ben, that's 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.480 a fail. And if you think I'm being tough here 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.280 calling this Mornings of too stunt, haven't listened to this 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:07.880 from longtime Melbourne broadcaster and he's no conservative Neil Mitchell. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.560 This is a report today. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.119 I know that's right that he's holding his first all 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.000 in press conference at the supermarket where he worked as 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.040 a kid as a check out. If that's right, that's silly. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.440 He's going to put a hard hat on or an aprons. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.920 Let's stop the tricks, Let's stop the stunts, talk direct 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.919 to people and be fairnigh. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.799 With them now. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.440 And the whole scheme of things this morning wasn't a 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.480 huge deal. His back office, Well they'll get better, they'll improve. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.120 That's inevitable when he's got hundreds more staff than his opponent, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.880 and I mean that literally. As Premier, he's got over 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.320 one hundred political staff in his office, almost double that 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.480 of the Prime Minister, whereas Jess Wilson will she'd. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:55.480 Be lucky to have a dozen. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.440 But that's not the most instructive thing that happened today. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.680 It's this a tactical move by the opposition later on 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.760 the floor of the Parliament that was more significant, more 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.280 significant and more telling. Remember this was Ben Carroll that 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.680 his first press conference as leader yesterday announcing a Royal 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.320 commission into Victoria's building and construction industry. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.479 My first action as Premier will be to call a 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.160 Royal commission into the construction sector. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.240 As I said to you last night, don't be fooled 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.719 into thinking that Labour now believes in transparency and integrity. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.040 Despite this now infamous line from the new Premier. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.679 We are saying enough is enough. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:49.080 In my government. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.359 Integrity will not be optional. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.880 He doesn't believe in integrity. Labor doesn't believe in integrity. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.680 If Carol did, he would have demanded a Royal commission. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.920 When he sat around the Cabinet table as Deputy Premier 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.160 and resigned if he didn't get it now, he did 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.719 none of that. He's only calling a Royal Commission now 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.440 so that he gets to choose who the commissioner is, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.760 and so that Labour sets the terms of reference of 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.839 the inquiry so as to keep their secrets buried. Because 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.200 if they don't do it now and the Liberals win, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.440 well all hell will break loose. Carol's Royal Commission is 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.440 not about finding out the truth. It's about keeping it hidden. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.480 It's about protecting Labour's CFMU mates. It's about protecting the 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.480 rivers of gold in terms of union donations that flow 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:51.440 into the Labour Party, state and federal So what happened 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.080 in the Parliament today that was so significant, well it 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.560 was this. It was this from the Shadow Attorney General, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.920 James Newbury. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.599 Has the Premier issued a direction to all current and 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.839 former ministers and their officers, departments and agencies to stop 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.520 documents relating to corruption, misconduct and criminality on the Big 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.960 Bill from being shredded or destroyed. What safeguards is the 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.680 Premier put in place to stop the shredding of documents 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.960 and deletion of records? Taking place in the offices of premier, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.560 former premier or outgoing ministers as we speak. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.200 This is really important. Here's why. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.320 Now, not many people understand that between premiers there's a 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.320 wholesale changeover both in terms of the office of the 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:45.080 political staff, but also in terms of public servant protocols. Now, yes, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.400 just into Allen and Ben Carroll are both members of 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.520 the Labor Party, but as far as the public service 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:55.039 is concerned, they are two very different premiers, and so 0:06:55.400 --> 0:07:00.880 documents between the two different administrations, they they are closed 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.240 out right now. Ben Carroll not even be in the 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.960 Premier's office yet right now just sent to Allen and 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.320 her staff would still be there cleaning out the carvers, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.000 and I can guarantee you they would be running the shredder. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.160 Day and night. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.640 And that was the importance of that declaration today from Newbery. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:28.000 With or without the connivance of Ben Carroll, documents that 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.480 should be legally protected. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.440 Now that he is foreshadowed a. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:38.320 Royal commission maybe being destroyed. Now Labour could be playing 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.960 cute here, given Carol has said it'll call a royal commission, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.360 but as yet the formal letters pattern to make it 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.520 happen or they have not been issued. So does that 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:54.160 mean the documents destroyed are not subject to the legal 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.360 protection that they would have once a Royl commission's officially underway. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:05.160 Well that's debate, certainly politically and morally. If they are destroyed, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.200 then labors in breach. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:08.000 So good on the Liberals. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.960 Good on James Newbrey for picking this up on day 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.480 one of a new regime and running it as hard 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.040 as they did through the Parliament. Again, just like their 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.040 quick action with that ad about the media debacle this morning. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.720 It shows an energy and a nimbleness that's long been 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.800 missing from the Victorian opposition. Finally, it gives a warrior 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.400 like me give it a hope that the Victorian Liberals 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.440 are not just up for a fight, they're actually throwing 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.360 themselves into a body and soul. Now, in my column 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.080 in The Australian tomorrow, I make a couple of observations 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.760 and I think it's worth foreshadowing them with you tonight. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:48.600 All Right, things will inevitably change now that Allan's been 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.760 replaced with labor rights man Ben Carrol. It's just how 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.200 much they change that's the question. Will Carol get the 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.640 same sort of bumpers Andy Burnham, who after spearing Kirs Starmer, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.920 has got drawing level now with Reform UK in the 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.800 most recent polling. Or will it be the tempered improvement 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.760 that are returned to Kevin Rudd delivered after he replaced 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.760 Julia Gillard on the cusp of the twenty thirteen election 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.880 and at least saved some furniture. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.480 Now I go on to say. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.040 I expect there will be a lift, that there will 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.199 be a lift for labor over the next few weeks 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.000 following the removal of Jacinta Allen, but that doesn't mean 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:34.839 it will be sustained. How the Liberals react to this 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:41.480 lift will determine whether any boost is locked in or dissipates. Now, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.840 let's not forget we have cabinet government in this country 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.440 and Ben Carroll's been sitting around that table for most 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:53.120 of the past decade, including time the key portfolios of Justice, Crime, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:59.480 Roads and transport. Whether he can shrug off that history 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.200 we'll be forced to own. It will all come down 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.600 to how well the Liberals can frame him. Now, that's 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.120 not just the job of Jess Wilson to frame Carol. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.679 This is where our colleagues really need to step up 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.000 and stop expecting her to do it all. She's got 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.200 to sell hope and policies that can turn around a 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.520 bad state. It's up to them now to go after 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.240 Carol and nail Labour's. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.080 Record to his chest. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.760 Now, for Victoria's sake, for Austraya's sake, let's hope that happens. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:34.920 We have a lot to get through tonight, and of 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.319 course Chris Yulman's back at the desk. We'll get to 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.160 Camper now though the headlines with our Sky News US 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.439 twenty four political report, I did it again, rubn Spargo. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:45.880 Good evening. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.559 Hopes of mortgage holders are being boosted in the face 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.520 of next month's Reserve Bank meeting. The headline inflation figure 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.400 has fallen zero point two percentage points to three point 0:10:55.480 --> 0:11:00.680 eight percent, beating market expectations. Underlying inflation, which is watched 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.520 by the Reserve Bank, remains unchanged at three point six percent. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.400 These are welcome numbers in the circumstances, but we know 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.920 that we still have inflation challenge in our economy. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.120 The RBA board meets in two weeks and according to 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.959 the markets, it's unlikely to lift interest rates further. Nearly 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.680 half of the country believes multiculturalism is becoming problematic for Australia. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.560 According to the News twenty four Pulse poll, thirty seven 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.040 percent of voters believe it continues to serve the country well. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.560 Only ten percent say it has never been good for 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:33.200 the country. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:34.640 Cut back on the immigration. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.680 I'm secting to figure aroun about one hundred and thirty 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:37.560 thousand people. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.320 The Opposition has closed the gap on One Nation on 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.640 primary vote. The Coalition is on twenty two percent and 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.160 One Nation is on twenty five percent. The Opposition leader 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.240 is distancing himself from a group at the center of 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.439 a new South Wales corruption investigation. Angus Taylor denies giving 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.920 it money after claims he was asked to make a 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.320 financial contribution. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.480 I'm not going to give a runn Commentaryohnson. I'm not 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.800 Party two that payment was made. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.559 I Kak is investigating an alleged plot by Liberal operatives 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.599 to solicit illegal donations, stack branches and discredit political opponents. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:14.600 Look well done, Paul Murray. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.400 That Q and A Last Night with Paul ed Hansen 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.280 must watch TV. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.200 But as I foreshadowed. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.200 Back at the desk of News twenty four, political contributor 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.520 Chris Yelman joins me. Now before I get into the headlines, 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.840 Chris and get all your analysis. I know you've been 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.760 away overseas on leave. I'm always keen for observations that 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.400 people pick up on their travels. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.240 What struck you, oh, Peter, I was in the UK 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.559 for a while. What struck strikes me apart from the 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.080 fact that it's very much a basket case. But with 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.400 the change of government to Andy Burnhaman the first thing 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.360 he went in was on electricity prices, because of course 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.600 the UK has some of the highest electricity prices in 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.240 the world. Why because they're pursuing much the same policies. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:56.400 That we are. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.200 So he cut the v tax, the value added tax 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.520 on that cost of living measure that will only get 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.760 about forty five pounds a year off a usual bill 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.480 in the UK, which is staggeringly high. What will be 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.280 interesting to see is what he does with north Sea oil, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.440 because there are two projects there that are under consideration 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.480 that could be ticked off on oil and on gas. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.880 If he does move on that, that will see a 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.840 significant break from what the Labor Party has done in 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.280 the past on that and around the world and everywhere 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.880 I went the word on everyone's lips is energy security. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.640 That is the most important thing for governments and for countries, 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.000 and certainly the cost of energy everywhere is a talking point. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.840 So it's not just here that this. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.680 Is happening, but elsewhere it seems that one of the 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.920 shoes has dropped on the cost of these policies to 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.320 governments and to people. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.079 Right before I go to other things, then what did 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.440 you make at the Prime Minister's announcement from Kartha and 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.600 Wa yesterday that they'll have a scoping study four millions 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.360 on the table if the project goes ahead. We're talking many, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:05.360 multiple of billions. But does this tell us that Labour's 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.000 dropping its fossil fuel phobia. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.040 Well, Peter, I always say that the best way to 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.880 view politics is to watch what governments do rather than 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.040 to listen to what they say. And this is a 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.160 fairly significant thing for the Prime Minister to be doing, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.920 to try and look it away of suring up Australia's 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.480 energy security and particularly it's liquid fuel security. So you 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.640 have to give him points for that. And the truth 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.200 about the way that Australia actually is run and the 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.080 energy that it runs on is ninety six percent of 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.000 our energy. So once we get away from electricity, but 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.640 all of the energy that we use to run this country, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.240 ninety six percent of it comes from coal, oil and gas. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.600 And that's the truth. That's not going to change in 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.080 the short term. And we know that we are severely 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.920 liquid fuel insecure. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.280 At the moment. So good on the Prime Minister for 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:54.880 doing that. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.800 And it does give you a nod in the direction 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.600 of travel of this government. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.760 Okay, well, just staying with this then you know you 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.600 will have seen the story that broke lateness this afternoon 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.520 in the Australian that you've got all these heads of 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.200 governor around the world who were saying no to Chris 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.000 bow and they're not going to come to the latest 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.280 climate change talkfest that he is promoting. I think it's 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.240 in October this year in Fiji. He's spent many millions 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.840 booking all the luxury hotel rooms. Well, they will all 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.160 be those shows again. If you look at data centers, 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.400 if you look at zero, even Tony Blair says that's 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.080 got to go. Are we seeing a shift here, Chris, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.400 given what you've also witnessed overseas, Peter. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.520 There is undoubtedly a shift which Chris Bowen of course, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.720 refuses to acknowledge one of the many things that he 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.240 said which is flat out wrong, which is that no 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.840 one around the world that he talks to is talking 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.200 about getting more oil and gas. Well, he must have 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.120 missed the statement that was put out by Mark Carney, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.760 who formerly was a champion, of course of net zero, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.600 about the fact that he made no bones about this, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:06.000 that Canada's emissions are going to rise because he's going 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.160 to lean more heavily into the natural resources of that 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.000 country to make the most of them, to make sure 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.960 that Canada uses the real strength. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.640 That it has in oil and gas. Is opening up a. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.720 New pipeline he intends to expect export gas into the 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.400 export markets into which we export them. So right round 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.080 the world, the world understands now that energy security trumps 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.560 everything else, and what Chris Bowen says and does is 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.560 in some ways a sideshow, but I would say a 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.880 very expensive one for Australia, and we continue to pursue 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.960 policies which will in the long run make us a 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.080 poorer nation. So it's good to see the federal government 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.520 in some fronts, like on when it comes to liquid 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.800 fuel security, has the memo it's certainly lagging when it 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.800 comes to others. And if it actually believes that it 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.320 will deliver productivity on the energy path that it's born, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.080 then it's diluting itself. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.160 The latest polls, Chris, we just read the Sky poll. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.760 There's an uptick there, Friendus Taylor. I think it's steadying 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.840 of the one nation vote. Still in bad polls for labor. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.040 The government's really gone, I think hard now after one Nation. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.200 But they lampoon them for so long. The Prime Minister 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.320 always you know, going after Paul enhanced it as some 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.400 sort of joke. But now he's become very full frontal 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.119 in his attack. So to the Treasurer here he was 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.760 today the. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.919 Very dangerous risk that one nation poses to wages and 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:47.240 working families in this country. And the thing about one 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:52.399 nation is there is no way that the Liberals and 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.600 Nationals can govern without being in coalition with one nation, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:02.840 and those three parties, that three ring circus, they share 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.920 a very divisive anti worker agenda. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.320 I made this mirrored I guess the Russian we saw 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:11.800 yesterday from Ben Carroll. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:13.800 It was all about the polls. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.920 That's why I just into Alan when it was Craven's 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.440 self interest from Labor. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.399 MPs who wanted to keep their seats. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.320 But he made it himself all about the risk come 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:27.080 November of a coalition one nation government in Victoria. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:28.520 What do you make of. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.120 This, Well, it's politics. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:32.960 What I want for the Labor Party and squad I 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.720 would be doing at the moment, which is to paint 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.919 your opponent as a risk, to paint one nation in 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:43.320 particular as unpredictable, inexperienced and certainly a danger of a vote, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.440 a risk of a vote, and that he's trying now 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.399 to put everyone in the same pot. So essentially to 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.080 say that the fractured right hand side of Australian politics 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:59.680 is unfit to govern. And unfortunately it's true to a 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.239 cert an extent that they keep offering proof points to this, 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.960 you know, so that one nation and the coalition at 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.400 the moment, certainly, you know, the one nation in particular 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.920 is certainly making up some ground. But unfortunately it's really 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.959 hard to pin one nation down as to what they 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.720 would be and what they would do in government. I've 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.119 got to say, when it comes to Victoria, who leads 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.080 one nation in Victoria? If people want an option, and 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.639 if that option really isn't there, if it looks to 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.119 them like the coalition and one nation's going to be 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.200 a risk that it forces them back into the Labor 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.480 Party's ticket. So you know, of course this is the 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.480 sort of thing the Labor Party would do, and it 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.520 would be helpful if the coalition then one nation didn't 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.720 provide proof points so often that they were incapable of governing. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.920 I guess though, in aggregate terms, Chris a few things. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:46.480 It says to me. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.719 It says to be clearly one nation is showing up 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.840 in internal party polling for Labor, not the published polls, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.240 not the stuff that we see, but that really fine 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.040 drill down poling that only a political party does. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:58.040 So it's there. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.320 The PM wouldn't have made it such a feature of 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.359 the national conference the other weekend if it wasn't. But 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.800 also if you look in aggregate terms, and they're not 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.959 a multi party coalition yet or of any shape or 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.399 form on the center right, but you have got this 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:18.240 concentration of anyone but the government vote anyone but Labor, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.440 and that's occurring federally and certainly occurring in Victoria and 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:27.240 Labor rather that, I guess, take the concerns of people 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.199 who have left them seriously, they're now wheeling around and 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.280 attacking one Nation supporters. Now, I say that the Liberals 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.600 don't do that either, fight the ground, the policy ground 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.000 where the differences up, don't attack people who have left you. 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.320 Labour got to be careful about that as well. 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.120 Yeah, certainly, And I'm sure that in working class suburbs 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.520 that one Nation is mopping up the discontent that people 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.040 see there. But the problem that we've gotten in the 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:52.800 two party preferred system is I see a lot of 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.919 people who just add up the one nation vote and 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.639 the coalition vote. Hey, presto, that transforms into government. Well no, 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.800 it doesn't, not if it fractures and those preferences spray everywhere. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.639 And that's what the government does know. So if the 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.240 Victorian Labor Party can lift its primary vote high enough, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.000 and that will not necessarily be that high in this 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.359 day and age, then it's back in this fight. So 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:16.600 it's obvious that what you would do is try and 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.360 work on the weaknesses of your opponent. The biggest weaknesses 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.119 of the right hand side of politics at the moment 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.359 is it's absurdly divided and looks completely disorganized. 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.159 So that's a problem. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.280 IF's certainly a problem for Jess Wilson in Victoria. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.119 Let's play this comment from someone you know well, I 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.680 know well, our former Labor Front bencher Mike Kelly. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.639 The bad news is that there's these elements that are 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:47.640 rising within the Labor movement that have this unholy alliance 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:53.520 between extreme revolutionary Marxists and Islamist extremists that are trying 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.639 to pervert the party. And their goal is not a 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:00.400 two state solution which is aligned with Hamas, because mass 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.119 doesn't support a t state solution. 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:07.120 All right, we've both seen what the politics of radical 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.639 Islam's done to the left in the United Kingdom. Is 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:14.000