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Speaker 1: It fits in with her with Kate podcast.

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Speaker 2: It is fitting home ever with Kate Richie for your

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Speaker 2: Tuesday podcast today.

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Speaker 3: Were he hair? Well, the big Fella's not.

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Speaker 2: Here, He's not even in the studio, so we can

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Speaker 2: talk about this cake because we stitched him out.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he had to leave the studio and

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Speaker 4: have an ICPA. Well, this is being a masser. Actually

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Speaker 4: you will need a message.

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Speaker 3: A bit eas a bit sore.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to put him together with like minded people

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Speaker 2: who have the same cravings for food as the.

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Speaker 3: Big fellow does. So we've got a couple of sumo

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Speaker 3: restless on.

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Speaker 4: They actually they are. I mean, I know we said

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Speaker 4: to him that it was a big surprise, but I

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Speaker 4: didn't quite imagine for them to be so big.

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Speaker 2: But two and two hundred and five k two hundred

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Speaker 2: and five, Kate, I'm ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: So two. But they're certainly not as tall as you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, actually one.

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Speaker 4: Of them was.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 4: It was a man mountain dwarf or whipper.

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Speaker 2: You got a photo with harmpwards and I think the

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Speaker 2: bloke's left breast was resting on your forehead.

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Speaker 4: He didn't start like that, And then I think the

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Speaker 4: photographer said can we all just kind of step in

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Speaker 4: a little and it felt so warm and a little

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Speaker 4: bit wet.

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Speaker 3: Ah, You've got to suss this out.

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Speaker 2: It's up on our Instagram account now, but it's in

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Speaker 2: the podcast and this is.

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Speaker 1: The Fitzian Whipper with Cape Ritchie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got quite nostalgic with this, but it's

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Speaker 2: still around. Great article written by Ben Groundwater in the

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Speaker 2: Sydney Morning Herald and his headline is there's nothing more

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Speaker 2: Australian than this misname snack and he's talking about the

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Speaker 2: iconic Chico role.

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Speaker 4: If you're a.

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Speaker 2: Muse oh or a journo, an ambo ra gabo, a

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Speaker 2: drongo waurra gero, get a Chico from the servo, right.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember the TV commercial what a ca angle?

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Speaker 2: I just I just know there was a Chico roll song,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know it was invented in nineteen to

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Speaker 2: fifty one in Wogga Wogga and it was the ultimate

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Speaker 2: snack that was invented that you could just take to

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Speaker 2: the footy eat at the footy because he said pies

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Speaker 2: burgers were just too hard to eat at the footy.

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Speaker 3: This one.

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Speaker 2: You know that, and you know that that distinct packaging

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Speaker 2: of it as.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, with the Chico written all over it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was, and I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: This is what thirty twenty fourteen is anyone still eating

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Speaker 2: chicko rolls?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would ask the question, because you have your

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Speaker 6: brief now on the topic. What's in a chicko roll?

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, this is what I never wore.

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Speaker 6: I love them like they're good. They taste great.

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Speaker 2: So it has a filling of cabbage and barley, carrot,

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Speaker 2: green beans, beef, celery, onions stuffed inside wheat flour, pastry,

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's what you're eating.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's obviously looks like it's been in a

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Speaker 6: blender and then just sort of sausage into it, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: So when it sort of bursts out the side and

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Speaker 6: it burns your lip at the same time, you think,

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Speaker 6: oh my god, what is inside this? I don't know

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Speaker 6: what it is, but I love the taste of it.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was basically it was a It was

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Speaker 3: a bigger spring.

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Speaker 2: Roll that you can't because Peka used to eat spring

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Speaker 2: rolls at the footy and this guy, what was his name, McEnroe.

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Speaker 2: Frank McEnroe, I want to, and Ben Groundwater wrote down here.

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Speaker 2: He but the bastardized delicacy right. He basically said, I

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Speaker 2: want a bigger spring roll that you can eat easily

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Speaker 2: at the footy. And he originally called it the chicken roll,

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Speaker 2: and he realized there was no chicken in it, so

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Speaker 6: What's wrong with this watermelon roll? I there's no watermelon

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Speaker 6: in it? Okay, well let's change. I'm a fan. Like

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Speaker 6: to me, it fits the category though, fits of I'm

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Speaker 6: one of those chicko rolls, the actual chicken roll that

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Speaker 6: could get a chicko roll that's been sitting there for

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Speaker 6: the last seventy two hours and it'll still taste good.

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Speaker 2: The best, do you know what? The best for me?

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Speaker 2: Can't be too hot. A chicko roll cannot be too hot.

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Speaker 2: And you know when you go to a fish and

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Speaker 2: it can be so hot. It's got to be warm.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be a certain amount of salt on

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Speaker 2: if you can get that right equation, it is unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: If it's too hot, to balance it out with a

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Speaker 6: frozen coke or a slurpy is the perfect combination. I

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Speaker 6: mean we have done this a couple of times on

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Speaker 6: the ship fits it. But has the chicko roll if

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Speaker 6: fitting the category of the trade's breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't had one person say that they have

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Speaker 2: a chicka roll except Brock's giving us a call from Credula.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Brockie, Good morning guys, Good Brock. Where you're

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Speaker 3: getting your chick a rolls from? Brock?

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Speaker 6: Still take breaking up there, Brock, unless he's got a

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Speaker 6: chick o roll in his mouth.

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Speaker 3: Say that again, where you get it roll?

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Speaker 6: No, we've lost him. The other thing the chicka roll

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Speaker 6: had going for it is the advertising. The roll was

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Speaker 6: often accompanied by a woman with giant breasts.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was one campaign.

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Speaker 6: And also what's a chicko roll got to do with

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Speaker 2: Well remember Puberty Blues as well, and the line from

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Speaker 2: Puberty Blues was get us a chick a roll, you m.

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Speaker 6: Oh, just rolls off the tongue. We're going back to

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Speaker 6: Bronc and we see, yeah, we might have Brock.

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Speaker 3: Now go Brock. So, Brockie, do you get it from

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Speaker 3: the servos or where do you get it?

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Speaker 7: Bro No?

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Speaker 8: Just a fish and chip shop?

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Speaker 6: Oh yka?

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Speaker 2: And what's the what's the ultimate way to eat a

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Speaker 8: When you're coming in from the big day in the

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Speaker 8: that's absolutely covered in chicken.

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Speaker 6: Sal really raw, and she's picked it up for you

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Speaker 6: and it's already at home. Brock.

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Speaker 8: No, she's there waiting to the beach when I come.

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Speaker 3: In with it.

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Speaker 6: So true. Now that's the type of girl ie the

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Speaker 2: Do you sometimes look at the inside of a chicka

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Speaker 2: roll and go what the hell am I eating here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? You definitely can't look at it while you're eating it.

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Speaker 6: You just got to forget about that, Brox. Thanks for

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Speaker 6: you call Buddy Lee and Cwyton. Hello, Hello len Lee?

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Speaker 6: What do you want to help the chicka roll?

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Speaker 9: How long have I been eating?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, sorry, I had.

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Speaker 10: To leave my phone on speaker because I'm driving in

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Speaker 10: the car, but I'm meaning my chicka rolls.

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Speaker 3: I will be first over.

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Speaker 9: Fifty years.

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Speaker 3: And Lee, when when would you have a chicko roll?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: When would you have it?

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Speaker 9: I have a to go role when my husband goes

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Speaker 9: and buys your fish and chips?

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Speaker 8: What would you like?

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Speaker 9: And I saw I have a chicka roll?

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Speaker 6: Fifty years of chicko rolls. I mean, I've never seen

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Speaker 6: one as a recommended food as part of your daily diet.

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Speaker 2: But that is so, that is so, that is so romantic, though,

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Speaker 6: See why isn't Lee on the billboard? You know she

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Speaker 6: could be the chicko roll girl, Lee? I reckon that

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Speaker 3: Well, see that's why you got kicked out at the

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Speaker 3: military yourself.

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Speaker 2: With Wasn't it because they asked you to do an

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Speaker 6: That was I confused the two of them and ended

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Speaker 2: You're only your what if away from a New Year

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Speaker 2: getaway with what if dot Com.

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Speaker 6: Ozzie has just know how to holiday? It's in our DNA.

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Speaker 4: Book, your accommodation, flights, car higher, and more, all of the.

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Speaker 3: What is app what if It's Ozzie for travel Okay,

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Speaker 3: do you know what It's just a good feeling in

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Speaker 2: You know when this something going on and there's a

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Speaker 4: A big surprise. Fits he didn't mention what a big

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Speaker 4: surprise it is for Whipper And I know it's not

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Speaker 4: your birthday, and I mean Christmas. We've just had Christmas.

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Speaker 6: Surprise is something with fireworks in New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, oh, it could be repayment for that. Actually, we

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Speaker 4: of a big game. And I don't know if for

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four you're going to be off to centennially

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Speaker 3: O'clock Arik Kahan massive game.

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Speaker 4: You might need to mix it up. That is the

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Speaker 4: key for exercise, It's the key for staying fit.

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Speaker 6: That's the trick.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not going to tell you.

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Speaker 6: Now, am I on the rower.

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Speaker 2: There was a huge event in Sydney, right and we

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Speaker 3: And when we say huge, we mean enormous.

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Speaker 4: No, we don't mean enormous, we mean massive. So coming

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Speaker 4: games coming, Oh, not that massive or bigger than actually bigger,

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Speaker 4: bigger in the Commonwealth Games. We're going to put a

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Speaker 4: blindfold on you. We're going to take you down to

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Speaker 4: level four and all will be revealed. Nervous, you've got

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Speaker 4: to change your clothes.

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Speaker 6: Everything all right, Tommy? Everything? Am I safe? Here we go.

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Speaker 6: They can tell by Tom's face he's excited because, Kate,

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Speaker 6: You've got something going on that I do not know

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Speaker 6: anything about.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do it on my own. We just wanted

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Speaker 4: to organize a big surprise for you. You're a very important

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Speaker 4: member of.

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Speaker 6: My birthdays in September, I know.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, none of us could wait until September,

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Speaker 4: and this had a little bit to do with timing

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Speaker 4: and whether we could get this massive surprise into the building.

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Speaker 6: So if you could just how big is it?

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Speaker 11: Big surprise?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh, bigger than you. I only just wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 4: If you pop that on Troy Savarn, we have to

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Speaker 4: go down much bigger than Troy Savann. Okay, put that on.

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Speaker 4: We'll go down to level four. Do I need to

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Speaker 4: hold your hand or you find it? Come on out

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Speaker 4: and to the right and down to the lift. Tom,

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Speaker 4: you get over that side. Just stand here, face that way,

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Speaker 5: You don't I didn't know this.

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Speaker 1: If you've done.

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Speaker 4: It's not Troy Savann. We wanted to wanted to get

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Speaker 4: Respectful, so we thought we would get the biggest surprise

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Speaker 5: Can you believe it?

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Speaker 4: We're right here, right in front of you now, two

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Speaker 6: Michael, how are you? I was just saying last week

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Speaker 6: Good to chat about the sport.

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Speaker 4: You want to.

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Speaker 1: I okay, clar the rules.

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Speaker 4: You correct me if I'm wrong, because I figure you

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Speaker 4: I'm just should I step out? I'll let you guys, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I've got that a big horn that I'm going

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Speaker 4: to do the tiny Okay.

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Speaker 11: Whipper has chosen his.

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Speaker 4: His opponent the squatting hands to the ground the outside.

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Speaker 10: Oh Jesus, are.

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Speaker 3: They allowed to the bands like that?

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Speaker 1: Whipper looks small?

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Speaker 5: Where's my phone?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Well, well done.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna absolutely smash my oos. The video is going

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Speaker 2: The studio and can you bring the sumos up here?

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Speaker 3: I need to know how much these guys eat in

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Speaker 1: This is the Fitz and Whipper with Cape Ritchie podcast.

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Speaker 6: Back in the studio, slowly putting the pieces together after

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Speaker 4: Fat and you close back on slowly putting your gear back.

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Speaker 6: Where are they now?

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Speaker 4: They're actually made the studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you've met you match when it comes to

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Speaker 6: Really, I've never felt thinner.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually going to I'm going to throw that out there.

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Speaker 6: He was sweaty and we were rubbing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bring the guys in.

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Speaker 6: Okay, where are we going to? Here's the term? Alright,

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Speaker 6: no chair? What a battle that was, My god, anyone

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Speaker 6: could have won. Can I ask what's your background? Where

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Speaker 11: My name is Roman because I'm the most success to Wristler.

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Speaker 11: So handsome guy was currently hair his brown eye Wow,

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, any fat guy can make food. I'm from Egypt originally,

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Speaker 6: This is true.

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Speaker 3: Can we other sumo wrestler? Can you introduce yourself to

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Speaker 11: Thanks sir.

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Speaker 6: My name is Mindy.

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Speaker 3: I'm from Mongolia.

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Speaker 6: From Mongolia. Are there many Mongolians sumo wrestle? Oh? Yes?

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Speaker 3: This Japanese top Japanese for some proportionals almost topkase you

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Speaker 12: Wow?

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Speaker 11: And he's single too.

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Speaker 6: He's single as well.

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Speaker 4: And can you cook?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Ok? Single?

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Speaker 3: Look cooking?

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Speaker 6: Looking for man?

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Speaker 4: Can you down?

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Speaker 3: Very good?

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Speaker 4: Out of ten out of ten? How do you think

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Speaker 4: the performance went from whipper?

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Speaker 11: You know? I just live literally live because you have family.

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for sparing me for my family? Can

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Speaker 6: I can we go back to some of the basics?

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Speaker 6: How long have you guys been doing sumo wrestling for?

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Speaker 11: Since he was eighty years old?

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Speaker 6: And what about yourself?

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Speaker 11: I do sport almost like thirteen years.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen years okay? And how old are you? I'm seven

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Speaker 11: Between me and you two hundred for zero kilou grumb

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Speaker 2: You know what is the fit that you wear. It's

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have a fixture, does it. It's all kind

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 11: No, No, it's really strong.

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Speaker 6: Can I ask a question? And I don't want this

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Speaker 11: Oh, this isn't the most worst one.

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Speaker 11: I sit next to a window too, so I can

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Speaker 3: Robbie Mendy, thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to follow the updates of the

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Speaker 2: Sumo wrestlers, they're on Instagram at Sumo International.

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Speaker 3: They've had an amazing time here in Australia.

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Speaker 2: If you want to see we get thrown around the

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Speaker 3: Right now. We know how busy you are, boys, so

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for coming in. Thank you, thank you, guys,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much.

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Speaker 11: This is the Fits In with Her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 4: I want to know if this happens in your house

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Speaker 4: that's what the story says, but before he makes it

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Speaker 4: I envy people that.

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Speaker 3: Can fall asleep anyway, you know, and yeah, that is you.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I do it during this show most mornings,

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Speaker 2: but it's for someone. I've got a mate that doesn't

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Speaker 3: In his house. At home, he sleeps on the couch

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Speaker 2: Then he waits so sad for his back. Well, this

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Speaker 6: Because there's people too that won't go to sleep without

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Speaker 4: It's like white noise is I.

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Speaker 6: Think Lisa and I talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 6: Kate and I say to Lisa, I don't think you

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Speaker 6: It's almost like a freedom thing. It's almost like because

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Speaker 4: It is a bit It is a bit of a treat.

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Speaker 3: Or Christmas days another.

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Speaker 2: I can understand a pound nap and they're vital. My

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Speaker 2: which is how long twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: He'll go to bed for twenty minutes, and now he

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Speaker 4: Minutes to turn it on for eighteen minutes, and I'll be.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's all about not people not going

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Speaker 6: That's the freedom, that's what the guy's enjoying, because especially

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Speaker 6: I'm just being able to choose what i want to

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Speaker 4: Just a bit of me time.

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Speaker 6: It's me time.

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Speaker 3: I've got the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: I've got the freedom to fall asleep on the couch

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Speaker 6: do that. I'm done. I'm a man.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm the opposite. Whenever I'm tired. I feel like

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Speaker 2: Go for a walk, go and do some exercise. Ye

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Speaker 3: I can't now I can't sleep during the day. I

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Speaker 6: What does Cash and Marubra think?

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Speaker 6: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 9: Do I think that he should sleep on the couch

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Speaker 2: Well, well, what are your thoughts on it? If your

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Speaker 9: I think that connection in the middle of the night

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Speaker 9: is really important for me personally. But he does get

452
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Speaker 9: a bad back. So if it was if it was

453
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Speaker 9: to do with the fact that he was saw and

454
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Speaker 9: he couldn't you know, couldn't sleep in the bed, well

455
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Speaker 9: of course, But if it was for a reason like

456
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Speaker 9: he wanted to stay up and watch the soccer all night,

457
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Speaker 9: then I'd probably.

458
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Speaker 4: Like, you know something.

459
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Speaker 6: If he's back is bad, though, then he should really

460
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Speaker 6: wake you up when he's going to bed, say around midnight,

461
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Speaker 6: and hope for a massage just to just to ease

462
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Speaker 6: the joint.

463
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Speaker 9: He definitely has and I definitely have given him one.

464
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Speaker 2: I've dreamed of sleeping next to Cash.

465
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Speaker 3: Kim in Kim and Kama, what do you do? Who

466
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Speaker 3: do you think is in the wrong here?

467
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Speaker 12: Kim?

468
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Speaker 10: I mean the knap on the couch to the TV.

469
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Speaker 10: Hits different, doesn't it. I'm kind of feeling sorry for

470
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Speaker 10: the guy who's getting a bad rappi and then maybe

471
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Speaker 10: he's refreshed after before the old cuddle.

472
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Speaker 6: Yeah, HiT's different.

473
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Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think so. I think he

474
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Speaker 4: just then gets up and like shuffles up the hallway

475
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: and then and then rolls into bed.

476
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Speaker 6: You know a couple who are close to Lisa and I.

477
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Speaker 6: We were talking about bed set ups the other day

478
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Speaker 6: and the fact that Lisa and I don't sleep in

479
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Speaker 6: the same bed, and it's beautiful hopping into bed by myself. No,

480
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Speaker 6: it's not weird. Do you know what? It's beautiful, Kate Richie.

481
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Speaker 6: Someone said the other day, back in the day when

482
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Speaker 6: the houses were smaller, like in the chocolate factory, and

483
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 6: they would all sleep in the one room, in the

484
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Speaker 6: one bed. That's why they were in the same bed.

485
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 6: And now that houses are larger and you don't have

486
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Speaker 6: to have everybody in the one room. We have more

487
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Speaker 6: than one room in our house, then you can separate.

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd sleep together for warm.

489
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Speaker 6: You would in the winter. I don't need that at all.

490
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Speaker 3: You did. You did that for the kids though, didn't you.

491
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Speaker 2: But now your kids are at an age where they

492
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Speaker 2: can sort of sleep themselves, so you could probably go

493
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Speaker 2: back to that.

494
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Speaker 6: You really need to. But this couple we were talking to,

495
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 6: she said, if he goes and sleeps elsewhere, then that's it.

496
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 6: The relationship's over. If he leaves the marital sweep, then

497
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 6: that's it.

498
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't think I would like it. They

499
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: were at the hall if you knew someone was sleeping

500
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Speaker 4: up the hallway, I don't think I would like that.

501
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Speaker 4: You're either in or you're out, an't.

502
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Speaker 3: It depends out of context.

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Speaker 6: Kane, thank you.

504
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Speaker 1: Fits in with her with Cape Ridgie podcast.

505
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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think of some of the thing that

506
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: have happened in Roger Rogerson's life. Australia's most crooked cop

507
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: passed away yesterday at the age of eighty three.

508
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: In prison.

509
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: I was in prison from murder in his seventies, still

510
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: brazen in his seventies to set up a drug deal

511
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: and kill Warren and Franchie. One man that spent a

512
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: bit of time with Roger Rogerson is a good friend

513
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Speaker 2: of ours, the Daily Telegraph crime editor Mark Moz Murray,

514
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: and he joins us, Now, Miz, thanks for.

515
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Speaker 3: Coming on the show, buddy.

516
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning, myz. Loving the article in the paper

517
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 6: this morning, page five, if anyone's looking to have a read.

518
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 6: But you'll see Roger Rogerson on the front page of

519
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 6: the paper. But there's a shot of you, there's Roger

520
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 6: arm around each other and then the article. I love

521
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 6: the way you started it. The first time you saw

522
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 6: him he tried to run you over in a Ford

523
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 6: Felcon and then the last time he saw him he

524
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 6: threatened to kill you as well.

525
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had a kind of funny relationship, especially towards

526
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Speaker 8: the end.

527
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, tell us about the end. I mean, let's jump

528
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 6: to more recent times where you say that the last

529
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 6: time he saw him was in the Supreme Court and

530
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 6: he threatened to kill you. Then what happened then?

531
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Speaker 8: Well, up until then, I'd run into him once or

532
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 8: twice in court and in jail, and I was doing

533
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 8: a visit somewhere somewhere else, and he was okay. You know,

534
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 8: he'd been he was facing his charges, and when he

535
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 8: was found guilty, I wrote this sixteen page wrap around

536
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 8: saying serial killer with a badge. Now he didn't like

537
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 8: that apparently, But when he's been sentenced, I had this.

538
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 8: I thought, Roger will understand I never wrote bad stuff

539
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 8: while he was you know, when he was out, he'll

540
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 8: be pragmatic. Christ I got that wrong. And he saw

541
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 8: me when he was coming up from the dock and

542
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 8: he just went red. And then you know, he's kind

543
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 8: of got to his fleet and just started pointing like

544
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 8: a gun, mounting words that I can't even say on

545
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 8: your radio show. And I thought he was going to explode,

546
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 8: and his solicitors calmed him down. And anyway, he obviously

547
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 8: didn't like being called a serial killer with the badge,

548
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Speaker 8: which I thought it was a nice turn, very nigh.

549
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Speaker 3: How feed was he Moz?

550
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: Like I talk about this, We was talking about this

551
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: before the show. But he joined the police cadets in

552
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight, right worked his way up. But he

553
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: was cunning Moz because a lot of people thought that

554
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: he was a hero and he was the best cup

555
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: going around. But that was the perception that he gave everyone.

556
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: But he was mixed up with some major heavies over

557
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: the years, some huge crime figures, and when they got

558
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: in his way, he got rid of them, didn't he

559
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: He was very cunning.

560
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 8: Oh he was, And he came across as dirty Harry.

561
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 8: That's the way he kind of marketed himself. You know,

562
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Speaker 8: if you can't let these crooks get over the top

563
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 8: of your kids, you know, good does we're telling these stories?

564
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Speaker 8: Did he go? Yeah, you know, he's got a point.

565
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 8: But as I said, you know, controlled corruption is what

566
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 8: he was kind of talking about. Along the way, he

567
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 8: was knocking people, getting people not well right, and not

568
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 8: just crooks. You know, people are dared to actually were

569
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Speaker 8: a threat to him, like you know, some young women

570
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 8: who dared to actually say that he was crooked. The

571
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 8: next thing, you know, they've either vanished or ended up

572
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 8: in a pond. The Centennial Park.

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Speaker 6: Well, that was never resolved. Was it was no?

574
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Speaker 8: I think we all all know that, Sally, And how

575
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 8: to say, it's a very very brave woman with you

576
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 8: know everyone, woman, I can see that it was most

577
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 8: likely Neddie Smith and that Roger was was behind it,

578
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 8: so you know, they decided I had to get rid

579
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Speaker 8: of her. You know, he did the same thing with

580
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Speaker 8: Christopher Dale Planner and had that lovely tag mister rental

581
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Speaker 8: kill he gave himself. And you know, I was talking

582
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Speaker 8: to someone and Roger himself and I had talked about

583
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 8: rented and he said, mate, he just had to go.

584
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 8: He just had to go, you know, and never found

585
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 8: found him.

586
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Speaker 2: I'm really interested now that he's gone. Well, well, more

587
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: things come out, do you reckon? More people will come

588
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: out of the woodwork now and we'll find out a

589
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: bit more about Roger Rogers.

590
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Speaker 8: But I know, when I was researching stuff, and like

591
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 8: he was a seventy three year old man in jail

592
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 8: for the life, and then the people still wouldn't say anything.

593
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 8: They wouldn't talk about him publicly still, you know, so

594
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 8: whether they do now, I mean, he had some reputation

595
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 8: and then they don't know whether there's any more to

596
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 8: talk about with Roger. The thing that now happens is

597
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 8: that we can blame him for everything. And he used

598
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Speaker 8: to say that they'd be blaming the JFK O. Yeah, right,

599
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 8: you know, he as I said, very very good company

600
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 8: as long as you kept paying. As I said, the

601
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Speaker 8: only time he probably put his hand in his pocket,

602
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 8: you wouldn't. It wouldn't be to bring out money to

603
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 8: buy a shout thirty eight.

604
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Speaker 6: But as part of the article too, you talk about Michael. Now,

605
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 6: what was the story there?

606
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Speaker 8: Now, Michael Drury who was an undercover cop and he

607
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 8: worked on some cooks down in Melbourne and he was

608
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Speaker 8: about to testify and Roger, I said to him, made

609
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 8: there's thirty thousand, four years long as his stuff got up.

610
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 8: Basically it was big and big, dreary. I'm taken. I

611
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 8: got on along with me very very very well, you know,

612
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 8: fantastic person. And he said, you know, he wouldn't take it,

613
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 8: and he said, I was nervous. I was really anyway.

614
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 8: About six weeks later he said his kitchen in Chatswoode

615
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Speaker 8: one night, two bullets come flying through, hit him in

616
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Speaker 8: the chest and crawls. He crawls into lounge and tells

617
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Speaker 8: his wife quit, you know, make the kids safe, and

618
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 8: everyone he was going to die. Without doubt, everyone thought

619
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Speaker 8: he was dead. Nine He's basically on his deathberty. He

620
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Speaker 8: tells how Roger had tried to bribe me and mix

621
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Speaker 8: of ibes now, I think, and then there was a

622
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 8: big inquiry and that was the beginning of the end

623
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Speaker 8: for Rogerson. Now there's a view that if Drewy had

624
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 8: died without making those allegation, Roger could have ended up

625
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 8: going close to being police commission. He was just he

626
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 8: was almost unsupperable. But after that that split the force,

627
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 8: you know, I think there were people that turned to

628
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 8: blind and die when Roger was killing armed Roberts. Yes,

629
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 8: when no matter what, when you shoot one of your own,

630
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Speaker 8: that that was a thing that started Roger's rollercoaster downhill.

631
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Speaker 3: Well, did he have a presence?

632
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Was like you were there moments were I knew? I

633
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: mean he tried to run you over, like you said,

634
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: are you threaten to kill you? A couple of times?

635
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: Were you Do you get nervous? Did he have that

636
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: look in his eye?

637
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 8: Yeah? I never really felt worried when I was out

638
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 8: drinking with him or anything. But once I did bring

639
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 8: up Drewery, you know, and he knew that I mixed

640
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 8: with Michael Drewery and Michael Creury was lovely. I mean

641
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 8: he said, I I know You've got to do. What

642
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 8: do you guys have to mix with all sorts of people.

643
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 8: And when I brought up for he just gave you this,

644
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 8: this glare, this coup and the children to your bone.

645
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 8: And it was the look that many many people said

646
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 8: that if they said the wrong thing to Roger, he

647
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 8: gave you that look. Just you know, he changed from

648
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 8: like sipping his schooner and breshes like just bang, just

649
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 8: it was could be quite frightening, very entertaining. As I said,

650
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 8: great company had some great.

651
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Speaker 11: Store he did.

652
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: Is he going to be a funeral? Must do you reckon?

653
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: Anyone will go to the funeral?

654
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Speaker 8: His brother, Owen, who was a policeman as well and

655
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 8: a lovely guy, and you know, straight days long he

656
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 8: visited him and said goodbye to him. He imagined he

657
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 8: would go. His second wife and my locker, I had

658
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 8: imagined she would go. But he had a drinking circle

659
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 8: of you know, some blokes down Southwestern he drank with

660
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 8: all the time. And from what they've now wiped him,

661
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 8: they I don't think they'll be going, and I don't think.

662
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 8: I had a lot of visitors towards the end, and

663
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 8: he hated jail. He told me he said he didn't

664
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Speaker 8: like it, which is not a lot of people, but

665
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 8: not a lot of people. Actually, I love that.

666
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: Spot he didn't like was star.

667
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said, I love. I wasn't too bad and

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Speaker 8: he used to because he got moved around a bit. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: I don't think it'll be put it this way. He

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Speaker 8: won't be getting the state funeral and I won't be

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Speaker 8: lying the streets of George Street as the coffin goes past.

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Speaker 6: No. Well, I thought Chris mins hell well yesterday when

673
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Speaker 6: he spoke very briefly and then said, and that's all

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Speaker 6: I have to say about him, And I thought that

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Speaker 6: was that was well done. It was recognized without celebrating,

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Speaker 6: because this man is a horror.

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Speaker 8: He really was, and he conned a lot of people.

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Speaker 8: And you know, said, I thought a little bit stupid

679
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Speaker 8: about the way we talked about him for a long time,

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Speaker 8: letting him to our offices, to blog and everything. But

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Speaker 8: when I about how dumb and na Naiva was a

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Speaker 8: lot of senior cops dhi and they don't feel that bad.

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Speaker 8: He was that good. He convinced so many people that

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Speaker 8: he really was just a guy that broke the rules

685
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Speaker 8: a little bit, but all for the good of the community.

686
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Speaker 8: But along the line, anyway he's gone.

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Speaker 6: It feels a bit Chopper read, doesn't it. In that

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 6: he would say, I've never killed anybody that hasn't killed

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Speaker 6: someone else.

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Speaker 8: Well that's right, yeah, Well and he did that too.

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Speaker 8: It was Chopper Reid. Remember he went on stage and

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Speaker 8: he used to love saying, you know, the new South

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Speaker 8: Wales Police Force the best money can buy. He did

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Speaker 8: all those you know, a little that force that he

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Speaker 8: used to used to supposedly liked so much. But I

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Speaker 8: mean along the way he was a very very good

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Speaker 8: detective at times. He's very effective, but sold some good

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Speaker 8: murders as well, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating it is, and we love getting you on

701
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Speaker 2: the show that but get the Daily Telegraph today he's

702
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: on the front page. Mos has written a big article

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Speaker 2: page five as well about his encounters with Roger Rogerson.

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Speaker 2: You can check it out there. As we always thank

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Speaker 2: you for your time. Also, you've got your podcast crim City.

706
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: You can get that wherever you get your podcasts from.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on the show, Moz.

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Speaker 8: Thanks God.

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Speaker 6: And with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: As I sit here on radio with a smug a

711
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 2: look on my face knowing that Kate Richie knows what's

712
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: going through my mind at the moment, but we're about.

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Speaker 3: To stitch up a team member.

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Speaker 11: I love these.

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Speaker 6: Moments fun is it? Because I'm not in on it?

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Speaker 6: So I can only assume you.

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Speaker 4: Just don't like not being across things, not in some

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00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: level of control. But you know, sometimes you have to

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Speaker 4: throw that to the win.

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Speaker 3: Look at that evil look in Tom Ivey's eyes.

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Speaker 12: Just after the news. There's something very exciting special treat

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Speaker 12: for everyone this morning?

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Speaker 6: Is it except me?

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Speaker 3: Who knows.

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Speaker 11: You might like.

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Speaker 3: Bringing cheer.

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Speaker 6: Let's move on to this one because this has gone

728
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Speaker 6: viralent a girl complaining about produce from the supermarket. But

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Speaker 6: there's one word in particular, and I've never really heard

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Speaker 6: it pronounce this way, and now it's launched into this

731
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Speaker 6: huge argument of how actually do you say this vegetable?

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Speaker 6: Have a listen?

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Speaker 13: Do you kick the items for like the online orders?

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Speaker 13: I just have a question, are you like not allowed

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Speaker 13: to give us the good produce? Because I never get

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Speaker 13: good stuff? And today I brought some broccoli and you

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Speaker 13: pay for broccoli per head, not percilo. And I got

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Speaker 13: this tiny little thing and I usually get a massive,

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Speaker 13: big head of broccoli.

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Speaker 4: When I buy it myself.

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Speaker 13: So I'm just curious, do you just personally pick this

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Speaker 13: produce and it's just like not very good? Or are

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Speaker 13: you told you're not allowed to give us good stuff?

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Speaker 6: Broccoli?

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Speaker 12: Broccoli?

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Speaker 11: Brocoli?

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Speaker 3: What's the origin of broccolini? As well's?

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Speaker 4: I thought it was an Australian name.

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Speaker 2: Eventually she's going to snooze baby broccoli.

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Speaker 6: Well, I always thought it. We always referred to it

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Speaker 6: as baby broccoli, but it's not.

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Speaker 4: We call it trees.

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Speaker 6: Come on, leafy part of the tree. Come on, pick

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Speaker 6: it up. You can hold it in your hand if

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Speaker 6: you want, because it's hard to cut go al broccoli.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'll give her that.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think when you were when I was

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Speaker 4: a kid, we may have said brocoli je.

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Speaker 3: Plural? Is that could be?

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Speaker 6: Is it a bit of a what's that term? I'm

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Speaker 6: thinking a bit of a lower class word bogan? Is

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Speaker 6: it a Bogan way of saying broccoli? Sort of a can?

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Speaker 4: Maybe? And if it is, I'm quite you know, loud

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Speaker 4: and proud about it.

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Speaker 3: I disagree. I think it sounds more fancy. If you

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Speaker 3: say you like bondai. It's not a Bogan thing at

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Speaker 3: all broccoli is Bogan.

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Speaker 12: We just checked with the Cambridge University Vegetable I'm too

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Speaker 12: busy this morning and we've got this this audio for

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Speaker 12: you on the correct pronunciation broccoli, broccoli, broccoli, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, what about broccoli? That was a really quick.

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Speaker 6: What do we brought up with broccoli?

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Speaker 4: I'm just giving you another option to bang on.

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Speaker 6: A friend and we were growing up, we would have

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Speaker 6: chas at home. What is that? He said?

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Speaker 4: That's a Melbourne thing.

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Speaker 6: What is that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What is it? Cabats?

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Speaker 6: Yeahscure, he sho. I had a couple of shacks.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's definitely not Bogan. That is very that hits

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Speaker 2: your rose.

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Speaker 3: Is European.

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Speaker 4: Know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Gather around the outside oven, gather around the outside hot plate,

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Speaker 2: and let's have some shasowle licks the wood fire.

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Speaker 4: Daddy's got the child cole on.

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Speaker 6: It's not an upmarket thing to have a shasli, No.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It sounds a bit like a cabanossi. Do you call

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Speaker 4: cabanossi cabanossi? You call it something else, habana cabana.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: I have brought to Antiques Road Show today a shazlink.

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Speaker 3: From nineteen thirty two.

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Speaker 2: I found it in my mother and father's attic, and

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Speaker 2: I would love to get at valued instead of the Fitzgeraldshi,

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Speaker 2: who's got who's nicked me?

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Speaker 6: Carl Slaw? Hey, seriously get me carl Slaw back?

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Speaker 2: Avery came, I say, Coleslaw.

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Speaker 6: Factory reading Coleslaw. Yes, I'll have a cole Slaw made,

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Speaker 6: not a potato salad.

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Speaker 3: What is with Russian sauce?

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Speaker 6: Cold?

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Speaker 3: You don't eat Coleslaw? Please, don't eat Colson.

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00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: Oh, yes you do.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 3: What do you have with your hawk?

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Speaker 6: No, we don't have a lot of Pool's hawk. My

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Speaker 6: mum makes a great dish called Sheikna Luddler.

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 6: It's like ham noodles and egg and cheese.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not this Carbinaga.

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Speaker 6: Swiss dish or sheet.

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Speaker 4: No it's not mate, it's mate, it's.

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Speaker 6: It goes so with cole Flora, Blue Eyeliner Sits in

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