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Speaker 1: On scorn lit Zastrodio.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panalty Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight.

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Speaker 4: Asia under fire.

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Speaker 3: For its failure to anticipate the Islamus.

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Speaker 4: Attack in Vonday.

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Speaker 3: Michael Danby and Colleen Harkin will be here shortly to

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Speaker 3: discuss that. Quanta Ahmed will give us her thoughts on

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Speaker 3: the government's move to titan gun laws in the wake

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Speaker 3: of this tragedy. Kosha Gata will have the latest from

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Speaker 3: the US and from Latin America with another country rejecting

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Speaker 3: socialism for a right wing leader. And we'll look at

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Speaker 3: the incredible scenes of the Navy versus Army game.

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Speaker 4: You won't believe those scenes.

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Speaker 3: And Left He's losing It features this delusional trio claiming

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Speaker 3: the leftist media is not left at all.

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Speaker 2: There's no liberal media. It's never existed other than in

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Speaker 2: independent media. This is liberal media where we are right

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Speaker 2: now on the left hook. Other than that at corporate media.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing liberal about it.

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Speaker 3: But first, the Australian Federal Police and Prime Ministers Anthony

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Speaker 3: Alberanezi have confirmed the Bondai terrorist attack was inspired by

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Speaker 3: Islamic State. Here was the Prime Minister earlier today.

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Speaker 5: This was inspired by a terrorist organization by ISIS. Now

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Speaker 5: some of the evidence which is being procured, including the

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Speaker 5: presence of Islamic state flags in the vehicle that has

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Speaker 5: been seized, a part of that radical perversion of Islam

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Speaker 5: is absolutely a problem.

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Speaker 3: The younger sailor Nevid Akram was investigated by AZO back

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen because of his close links to Islamic

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Speaker 3: state terror suspects, including convicted terrorist Isaac Almatari, but AGIO

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Speaker 3: found no indication that he posted on going threat. Navid

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Speaker 3: was not reassessed by ASIA after twenty nineteen and was

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Speaker 3: not on an ASIA watch list when the shootings occurred.

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister spoke to the ABC last night where

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Speaker 3: he was pressed on why ASIA hadn't been investigating the

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Speaker 3: sun more closely.

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Speaker 4: Have A listened to his response?

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Speaker 5: They determined that there was no evidence of this person

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Speaker 5: planning or considering or indeed promoting any act of violence

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Speaker 5: or any act which could be doomed to be any

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Speaker 5: Semitic targeting the Jewish community, which is what occurred.

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Speaker 6: But have you asked ASIO or the Terrorism the Terrorism

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Speaker 6: section of the New South Wales Police or the AFP

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Speaker 6: whether there was clear evidence of radicalization.

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Speaker 5: I yes, we certainly have and that was not there.

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Speaker 3: Joining me na's former labor MP Michael Dan and Institute

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Speaker 3: of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken, Michael, I'll start

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Speaker 3: with you. Is this a failure of our counter terrorism services?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is. Once he was identified, Australians would have

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Speaker 7: thought automatically that the police and the security services would

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Speaker 7: have put out a ring to his family to see surprise,

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Speaker 7: surprise that his father owned six guns. Now that would

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Speaker 7: have been reason to expose and report him. Should have

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Speaker 7: been automatic and hopefully it will be from now on.

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Speaker 7: Asia has generally done a very good job in exposing

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Speaker 7: the Uranian Intelligence Services coordinating all of these attacks on

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Speaker 7: targets all over Australian including burning down the synagogue and

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Speaker 7: god forbid that these Isis people, These Isis link people

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Speaker 7: who went to training with the Banks and Moora. Again,

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Speaker 7: something at ASIO should have picked up might actually be

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Speaker 7: a revenge operation for the Uranian Intelligence Service.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to find out a lot more about

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Speaker 3: this case.

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Speaker 4: For Colleen.

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Speaker 3: The has been quick to make this about gun control and.

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Speaker 4: That has its.

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Speaker 3: Merits, but a terrorist isn't going to not get a gun.

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Speaker 3: They are're going to get a gun illegally. Is this

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Speaker 3: just a diversion because he doesn't really want to tackle

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Speaker 3: the deeper issues here, and we're talking about radicalization, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about mass migration without assimilation. All those issues that

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Speaker 3: he knows are hot button issues with the electorate that

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Speaker 3: you'd rather ignore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, completely.

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Speaker 8: I mean, of course you can't legislate away hate and

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Speaker 8: being able to get a gun and not being we

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Speaker 8: had the toughest gun laws perhaps in the world, and

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Speaker 8: so it's a bit of an insult I think to

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Speaker 8: sort of try and turn this around and pivot into

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Speaker 8: a conversation about guns. The Prime Minister is given a

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Speaker 8: fairly merely mouthed kind of response to all of this,

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Speaker 8: and has been very careful to try avoid using the

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Speaker 8: vocabulary that needs to be used, which is this was

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Speaker 8: an Islamic terrorist attack, and until we actually use the

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Speaker 8: correct vocabulary, we won't be getting to anywhere near addressing

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Speaker 8: the problems. Just saying it's anti Semitic is putting the

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Speaker 8: focus on the Jewish community. The focus actually has to

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Speaker 8: be on the Islamic terrorist attack component, and what are

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Speaker 8: we doing about that. So until we actually use the

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Speaker 8: right terminology and we're prepared to face what the actual

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Speaker 8: problems are, we're not going to get anywhere. And unfortunately

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Speaker 8: our suspectable to see more of this.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, words and words are important and they have

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Speaker 3: to be using clear, accurate language here now. Home Affairs

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Speaker 3: Minister Tony Burke has come under fire for the government's

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Speaker 4: On the warnings of anti semitism.

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Speaker 3: Victoria to Pleetski's father was shot as he tried to

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Speaker 3: escape the government on Sunday. Nineties are undergone surgery hospital.

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Speaker 3: She accused Tony Burke and the Prime Minister of committing treason.

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Speaker 9: Tony Burke, as far as i'm concers Earned and Wong

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Speaker 9: and ALBANIZI, they're commting.

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Speaker 10: Treason upon Australia.

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Speaker 9: They're betraying Australia with the way that they've handled everything.

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Speaker 9: I don't believe anything that he says. I don't think

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Speaker 9: anyone does. And they're bringing unvetted people into the.

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Speaker 10: Country on more for votes. And I'm sorry if I'm

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Speaker 10: not being politically correct. I'm just a person. This is

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Speaker 10: not what I do. But I feel very betrayed. I

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Speaker 10: think Australia should feel very betrayed by the wong Albanesi.

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Speaker 9: The government.

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Speaker 3: Tony Burke has responded to those accusations on nine earlier.

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Speaker 11: Today you would have just heard. Of course, we spoke

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Speaker 11: to Victoria. Her father was shot here on Sunday. The community, see,

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Speaker 11: the Jewish community has been warning the government about an

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Speaker 11: imminent attack of the very nature that we saw. No

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Speaker 11: one wanted it to happen, but they say they are

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Speaker 11: not surprised, and they blame you. She accused you of treason.

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Speaker 11: She accused you and the government of treason of not

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Speaker 11: looking after the Jewish community and the Australian community as

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Speaker 11: a whole. How do you respond to that because they

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Speaker 11: feel as though they have been left out.

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Speaker 12: Look, if I start, if I start with this that

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Speaker 12: where things are so raw, the last thing I'm going

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Speaker 12: to do is be in an argument with someone who's

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Speaker 12: gone through that with their parent. And I was listening

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Speaker 12: to the interview but while I was waiting to come on,

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Speaker 12: so I've heard every word of it. Can I say

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Speaker 12: the government has never flinched on the principle that people

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Speaker 12: in Australia and that anti Semitism is an evil that

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Speaker 4: Michael, is he right?

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Speaker 3: Has the government not flinched? Have they carried out every

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Speaker 7: No, he's done too much. He's the one who welcomed

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Speaker 7: He's the one who admitted three thousand gardens with barely

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Speaker 7: any security vetting. He's the one who for years worked

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Speaker 7: at ALP conferences for a unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state,

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Speaker 7: did that. Now all of this, reader is setting, as

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Speaker 7: you know, the mindset for more simple people out in

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Speaker 7: the western so of Adam Toni's electorate who think that

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying, as that woman did, that he's guilty

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Speaker 7: of treason, but he's made wrong policy steps which have

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Speaker 7: for these terrible ends.

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Speaker 3: Colleen, the anger towards politicians particularly the Prime Minister Penny

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Speaker 3: Wong tony Berg, but also Greens MPs who visited the scene.

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Speaker 3: The anger is palpable that that community is absolutely fed

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Speaker 3: up with the excuses and the meaningless motherhood statements that

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Speaker 3: seem to come out every time something, anytime anything happens.

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Speaker 3: But obviously what we saw on Sunday one of the

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Speaker 8: And of course the Jewish community of feeling it the

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Speaker 8: hardest and the closest. But I think all Australians are

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Speaker 8: sick to death of trying to step around in case

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Speaker 8: have to have. This has been allowed to fester for years,

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Speaker 3: The intimidation, the acts of violence have been extreme, and

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Speaker 3: we know they're capable of tackling protesters, but Michael, they've

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Speaker 4: In fact, as.

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Speaker 3: We've shown on this station number of times, if someone

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Speaker 4: Abide by the law.

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Speaker 7: So they had the mindset of keeping the peace at

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Speaker 7: any cost, not enforcing the law. And it was worse

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Speaker 7: in Victoria, if you ask me, the New South Wales.

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Speaker 7: New South Wales had that terrible scene at the beginning

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Speaker 7: this go for two years and the city people were intimidated,

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Speaker 7: Victims of terrorism were chased to their hotels. Remember that

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Speaker 7: and this all sets, as I said before, a mindset.

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Speaker 7: So it's not only the fault of the political leadership,

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Speaker 7: but particularly in Victoria. I think the Victoria Police have

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Speaker 7: changed with the new commissioner now and have become more active,

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Speaker 7: but at long last, better late than never, and I

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Speaker 7: just hope that there aren't any further incidents that these

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Speaker 7: people have become so empowered that they think they can

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Speaker 7: repeat this.

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Speaker 3: And we talk about anger towards politicians. That was evident

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Speaker 3: a last night in Corefield Shore Premiatures and to Alan

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Speaker 3: is understandably you can say, irate with what is happening

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Speaker 3: now and the wake of this attack, Australian Jews are

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Speaker 3: increasingly considering leaving the country and heading to Israel for

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Speaker 3: their own safety. Michael Ginsburg is an investment banker at

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Speaker 3: Morgan Stanley and a member of Melbourne Jewish community. He

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Speaker 3: told the Australian Financial Review it's embarrassing to say that

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Speaker 3: it's probably more dangerous in Australia to be Jewish than

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Speaker 3: most places in the world. And Colleen, that is a

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Speaker 3: sentiment that is increasingly shared by Jewish Australians, even before

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Speaker 3: what happened on Sunday. I hear it all the time,

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Speaker 3: and I think it really is. It's shameful for the

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Speaker 8: I think the average Australian is shaking the head and saying,

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Speaker 7: So you've seen the various rabbis at the commemorations in

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Speaker 3: The immediate response from the Albanesi government in Australia to

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Speaker 13: First of all, Rita, if I can say, my heartfelt

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Speaker 13: many of my friends in Australia were devastated this barbaric attack,

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Speaker 3: How concerned should Australians be about foreign agents that may

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Speaker 13: You're absolutely right, Rita. This is a threat, not only

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Speaker 13: So this imperils every Australian irrespective of their background, and

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Speaker 13: major criminalization. I actually think that antisemitism and crimes related

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned capital punishment. I don't think that's going

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Speaker 4: But what are the.

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Speaker 3: Measures, solid consequential measures could be implemented to act as

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Speaker 13: Many of those and they will be the subject of

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Speaker 13: And it's not only deportation. I just got back from

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned permissive attitudes in this country.

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Speaker 13: Sadly, Rita, I think you're absolutely right. Not only have

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Speaker 13: If we cannot defend Jewish lives, we cannot defend our

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Speaker 3: Quantam, thank you so much for your time tonight, Rita.

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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure deal.

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Speaker 3: Ta Karma lefties losing as the latest on the US

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Speaker 3: the Riata Patty Show, and it's time for lefties losing

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Speaker 3: it now. If you thought the horrific Islamist terror attack

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Speaker 14: Today iron people all over the world are sending solidarity

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Speaker 14: They are on forty two days of hunger, striking a

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Speaker 3: Irreversible damage, she says. I wonder if there was a

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe these next lads can offer a

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Speaker 3: Sandwich then and get a job. That's brilliant advice right

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Speaker 4: I do wonder if there.

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Speaker 3: Will be any self reflection from other anti Israeli activists

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Speaker 3: Wonder if there will be an apology or a vow

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Speaker 4: Americans, When are you going to do it? Why is

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Speaker 13: You?

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Speaker 15: Every day there's another happening, right awful for your country. Awful, right,

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Speaker 15: Why don't we redirect this energy to something else? You know,

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Speaker 15: there's always in cells that you go, oh some they

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Speaker 15: go and do you know what would actually make people

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Speaker 15: if you did it? Is if you did it, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny how the crackdown on so called hate

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Speaker 3: speech never seems to include the trash being spewed there

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Speaker 3: now here is a dose of weapon grade hoodspar courtesy

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Speaker 3: of Sin and anchor Jake Tappa. Here he explains why

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Speaker 3: he is hyper fixated on Donald Trump's age.

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Speaker 16: He cover it all the time on my show, all

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Speaker 16: the time. And I think that is that is to

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Speaker 16: a large degree because we saw what happened with Biden,

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Speaker 16: and while we covered it, we didn't cover it. Maybe

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Speaker 16: we didn't ask as many questions as we should have

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Speaker 16: at the time. And I think it is a legitimate

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Speaker 16: question for any president of any age, but particular anybody

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Speaker 16: who is like in the range of being an art deginarian. Right,

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Speaker 16: we cover it all the time.

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Speaker 4: So let me get this straight.

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Speaker 3: The guy who refused to cover Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline. Indeed,

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Speaker 3: he attacked those of us who pointed out the very

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Speaker 3: obvious cognitive decline. And then he wrote a book acting

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Speaker 3: like he was breaking news on Biden's mental acuity, but

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Speaker 3: only he only wrote that book after Biden was dumped

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Speaker 3: by the Democrats. And now he's acting like his failure

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Speaker 3: to properly scrutinize Democrats is why he must be obsessively

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Speaker 3: negative about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 3: Now you know MSNBC's Nicole Wallace or ms NOW whatever

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Speaker 3: they're called these days. Nicole Wallace, well, she's a little

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Speaker 3: batshit crazy on TV, but she really reserves the weapon

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Speaker 3: grade crazy for her podcast, where she seems to feature

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Speaker 3: the worst opinions in America. This week it's alleged homage

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Speaker 3: and actress Leslie Jones.

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Speaker 9: How do you think it ends? How do you think

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Speaker 9: the eraror ends go?

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Speaker 17: This is I'm hoping. This is what I'm hoping that

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Speaker 17: midterms people come out and vote like crazy to switch

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Speaker 17: it over and then the reckon incomes. That's what I want.

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Speaker 17: All everybody that work for ICE, I want them in jail.

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Speaker 17: I just want a reckoning. I want a reckoning. Y'all know,

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Speaker 17: y'all did wrong stuff. You know, some of the stuff

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Speaker 17: you did.

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Speaker 1: Was so wrong.

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Speaker 17: I need a reckoning because that's to me, that's the

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Speaker 17: only thing that's going to make it right.

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Speaker 3: And you thought she was terrible in Ghost Pasters, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: she was. What a horrid piece of work, wanting ICE

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Speaker 3: agents to go to jail for doing their jobs detaining

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Speaker 3: illegal immigrants, including rapists and killers.

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Speaker 4: Now here's another former guest.

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Speaker 3: Of Nicole Wallace's Awful podcast, a former MSNBC anchor Joy Reid,

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Speaker 3: who is so far off the reservation, so extreme in

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Speaker 3: our hard left views that she actually seems to believe

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Speaker 3: that the leftist media is a left at all.

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Speaker 2: There's no liberal media. It's never existed other than in

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Speaker 2: independent media. This is liberal media where we are right

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Speaker 2: now on the left hook. Other than that corporate media,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing liberal about it. The owners are conservatives who

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Speaker 2: want to do business with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Now let's hear from Democrat Congresswoman Ilano Omar, who had

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Speaker 3: this to say about the Islamist terrorist attack at.

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Speaker 4: Bondi become a normal.

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Speaker 18: Occurrence, not just in the United States, but now seeing

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Speaker 18: it in Australia. Who's worked really hard to create gun

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Speaker 18: professional laws to prevent the kind of tragedy that took

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Speaker 18: place today.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So after two men carrying an Islamic state flag in

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Speaker 3: their car gun down innocent people at the beach targeting

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Speaker 3: a Jewish event, Elan wants to talk about gun laws.

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Speaker 3: Never mind that Australia has some of the toughest gun.

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Speaker 4: Laws anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher, geta Kosher. The

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Speaker 3: crisis we are dealing with is not going to be

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Speaker 3: fixed by just further toughening.

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Speaker 4: Gummws no, and she knows it.

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Speaker 1: And sadly the leaders here from the Prime Minister all

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Speaker 1: the way down to former and sitting political figures and

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Speaker 1: lawmakers have also jumped on that bandwagon. They do it

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Speaker 1: back home in the US all the time, including her,

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Speaker 1: because the end goal is to restrict more and more

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Speaker 1: gun rights, which is one form of freedom. I know

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Speaker 1: that's a very American point of view, but it is

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Speaker 1: a form of freedom. That you have the right to

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Speaker 1: self defense. Doesn't mean you can buy guns unchecked. There's

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Speaker 1: plenty of checks, but everybody should have that right essentially right,

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Speaker 1: and it's enshrine in the constitution there, so there is

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a backstop. But even still many,

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Speaker 1: many states, including Minnesota, have it tightly. And what are

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Speaker 1: you going to do print out another legislation and wave

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Speaker 1: it to a shooter when they come to like That's

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Speaker 1: where it just makes no sense. It's treating legislations as

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Speaker 1: some sort of magic wand that it is.

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Speaker 3: And to think that terrorists, people help bent on killing

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Speaker 3: as many innocent people as they can hand are going

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Speaker 3: to respect gun laws. We know that illegal guns are

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Speaker 3: available to those who want to seek them out, and

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Speaker 3: surely a terrorist is not going to be observing.

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Speaker 1: Gun laws now hampers labiding people. Those are the people

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Speaker 1: who follow laws, and terrorists and criminals don't follow them.

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Speaker 1: The issue, of course, is immigration among others. That is

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Speaker 1: a topic Elinoma knows a lot about, and I think

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why she's obfiscating and not focusing on

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Speaker 1: that and focusing on gun raids instead.

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Speaker 3: Now, Kosh, I want to play you some harrowing footage.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: You hear a mum, a pregnant mom soothing and protecting

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Speaker 3: at Todd Low is not her child, and the Bondai

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Speaker 3: gunmen are firing at this point, and they sound like

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Speaker 3: they're very close by.

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Speaker 4: Have to listen to this, like you, I'd like to

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Speaker 4: I like to you. I'd like to you.

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Speaker 17: I like to you.

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Speaker 6: I go to you, I'd like to you.

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Speaker 9: I got to stay here and they're going to be

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Speaker 9: nice and say and no.

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Speaker 4: One's getting hurt.

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Speaker 7: Term Hi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we can now. That woman is called Jess, and

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Speaker 3: she met that little girl's grateful parents.

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Speaker 4: This was a beautiful moment. It's night when we spoke.

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Speaker 9: You wanted to say thank you to Jess, the woman

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Speaker 9: who saved's life.

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Speaker 4: Well let's bring her into you can say it in person.

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Speaker 19: Jess, No, no, no, this woman is a hero.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she's a hero.

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Speaker 3: My ange, George, you remember her?

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Speaker 10: Did you look after you?

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Speaker 19: Madonna?

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Speaker 4: Do you remember this lady?

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Speaker 10: This is Jess.

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Speaker 13: What do you want to say thank you?

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Speaker 3: I think you might want to be a.

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Speaker 4: Kosher.

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Speaker 3: Really was a selfless act. She ran to grab that child, Gigi.

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Speaker 3: She lay on top of her to protect her.

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Speaker 1: I think in these moments of extreme tests of humankind,

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Speaker 1: there obviously SEMs to be two sides of the coin.

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Speaker 1: And when you see extreme evil, you also do see

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Speaker 1: extreme humanity and we see it often, and that was

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Speaker 1: really something you said. She was pregnant herself and still

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Speaker 1: had that instinct to go out there. I think it

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Speaker 1: gives a solid little bit of hope that even if

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Speaker 1: there's horrible evil in this world, and sadly there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot in recent days and weeks, that others not last,

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Speaker 1: and there are lots of good people still out there.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the mother's instinct just kicked in there. Now, let's

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Speaker 3: go to some of the international reaction. The Argentinian President

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Speaker 3: Jave Milay has called out the hypocrites and the media

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Speaker 3: and political crop class and some of the comments they've

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Speaker 3: been making post Bondai. He wrote Cognitive Dissonance in light

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Speaker 3: of the horrific attacks perpetrated by ISLAMUS terrorists in Australia.

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Speaker 4: To Davie, will see a bunch of.

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Speaker 3: Political figures and media personalities journalists expressing their condolences and

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Speaker 3: sympathies without any regard for the fact that they are

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Speaker 3: the very same figures who promote woke, leftist and anti

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Speaker 3: capitalist ideas that lead to these outcomes. He also wrote

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Speaker 3: Kosher about these characters, attacking those who do try to

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Speaker 3: promote pro West values like himself. He's been a steadfast

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Speaker 3: ally of the Jewish people, Harvea Mila.

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Speaker 1: He has been, and he's very interesting because he's actually

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Speaker 1: very interested in Jewish scripture. He's studied it from a

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Speaker 1: theological perspective and all of that. So he certainly knows

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Speaker 1: what he speaks in that century is coming sort of

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Speaker 1: from their side or as an ally. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: what he's talking about is what we touched on before,

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Speaker 1: that there are other things over here, like immigration, like

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Speaker 1: the fact that assimilation isn't happening, or maybe it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work fundamentally, like the fact that certain cultures, religions, ideologies

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Speaker 1: are not compatible and what does that mean? And how

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Speaker 1: are you going to unscramble that egg because it's very

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Speaker 1: difficult to do once you've had fifty years of Router

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Speaker 1: Gener's immigration policy in these countries. That's really what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. But people don't want to see that, and

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Speaker 1: he's one of the few out there that will.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's an increasing number who are saying that, who

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Speaker 3: are having the hard debates, who are not tiptoeing around

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Speaker 3: these difficult issues treading on eggshells. Donald Trump obviously is

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Speaker 3: the most obvious he says it very bluntly when it

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Speaker 3: comes to immigration, where it comes to the merits of

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Speaker 3: immigration from different parts of the world, but in Europe too,

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Speaker 3: this is a debate that has really taken hold. We

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Speaker 3: seem to almost be a bit of an outlier. We

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Speaker 3: can't even talk about this. We have people even within

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Speaker 3: the Coalition who are reluctant to use the term mass

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Speaker 3: migration because they think it has a negative connotation. Never

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Speaker 3: mind that what we are seeing right now is mass

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Speaker 3: migration record numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, that is the most ascendent movement. It's

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Speaker 1: no accident that he Trump came into power and Brexit

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Speaker 1: and Nigel Frage and all these nationalist populist movements across Europe.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly a battle. They are ascendants, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pushback in it. There seems to be a

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Speaker 1: lag time too where they're talking a lot about tightening

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Speaker 1: immigration going forward, which is great. What do you do

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Speaker 1: about the people that are already there illegals? Okay, deportation,

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Speaker 1: that's a big topic now when we get into legals

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Speaker 1: and are you repatriating people, re migrating people back out,

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Speaker 1: or stripping citizenship. That stuff I think people are just

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Speaker 1: starting to touch on it. That's really difficult, but maybe

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Speaker 1: that's where this is headed. I think that's a really,

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Speaker 1: really tough time to find that we're there. And then

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Speaker 1: if you look at Australia, as we're saying it's more

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Speaker 1: of an outlier, they're nowhere near that. They're not even

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Speaker 1: talking about tightening legal immigration let.

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Speaker 3: Alone well, and now we've got a bit of a

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Speaker 3: unit party attitude when it comes to this issue under

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Speaker 3: the current leadership. Perhaps it would change if if there

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Speaker 3: was a ladyship change within the coalition, but let's stay

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Speaker 3: in a less In America, there was a stunning election

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Speaker 3: result in Chile.

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Speaker 4: The ultra conservative.

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Speaker 3: Candidate one in a landslide against the leftist governing coalition

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Speaker 3: wos Antonia Casts secured almost sixty percent of the vote

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Speaker 3: Kosha and he is expected to form the most right

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Speaker 3: wing government in more than thirty years in Chile.

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Speaker 1: That's an example to your point of how that movement

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Speaker 1: is ascendaned and somebody I think it was Haavmla who

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Speaker 1: tweeted out a map of Latin America with the colors

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Speaker 1: and how much of it is now in the right

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Speaker 1: And this is a continent that was so prosperous. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about Argentina before Bonos Aires was one of

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Speaker 1: the richest cities in the world, and how in such

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Speaker 1: a short span of time quarter century, half a century

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Speaker 1: they completely tainked their economy for all sorts of reasons,

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Speaker 1: bad policy wise, and how quickly he is turning it

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Speaker 1: around and the people have had enough. You just got

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Speaker 1: Venezuela and Brazil basically on that map the major countries

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Speaker 1: that are still on the left, but they've had that fight.

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Speaker 1: You had Boltsonnario there, who was of the right and

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Speaker 1: then he was and Venezuela's sort of a different case.

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Speaker 1: But definitely the momentum in Latin America and the direction

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Speaker 1: in which it's pointing is something to keep watching well.

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio has tweeted his congratulations and

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Speaker 3: he also said the United States looks forward to partnering

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Speaker 3: with the Chilean administration to strengthen regional security and revitalize

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Speaker 3: our trade relationship. And Kosho, you touched on Latin America

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Speaker 3: turning right, with the exception of Brazil and Venezuela. You

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Speaker 3: look at the countries here and it's all happened within

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years. This is a new phenomenon,

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Speaker 3: but it's very strong. Gotjavia, Milay and Argentina. Paraguay's gone right,

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Speaker 3: El Salvador, of course, Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru, and now Chili.

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Speaker 3: This is a hard movement that's on the rise.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely is. And there is some sort of osmosis

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Speaker 1: effect probably that happens because a lot of these countries

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Speaker 1: are small and of course together, and you see such

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Speaker 1: a dramatic shift. I mean, this guy is pretty st

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Speaker 1: luly in the right camp. People can look up his

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Speaker 1: roots and his parents and all of that as well.

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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people probably are not

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Speaker 1: expecting it or are stundard how quickly these elections are

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Speaker 1: reshaping these countries, and also the profile and the nature

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Speaker 1: of the candidates that are coming in. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: happens to Brazil, which is the last big one, and

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Speaker 1: say the next five years or so. And if so,

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Speaker 1: then I think Latin America today is looking very different

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Speaker 1: than how it did even twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hope that prosperity comes back and also reduction

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Speaker 3: in the crime like like we've seen in El Salvador,

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Speaker 3: we can see it is possible. Kosher, tell me about

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Speaker 3: the fatal mass shooting at Brown University. What do we

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Speaker 3: know about this case? And what do we know about

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Speaker 3: the botched arrests of the suspect It turned out not

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Speaker 3: to be the suspect at all.

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Speaker 1: It's outrageous. So another shooting and just the global media.

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Speaker 1: You had Bond die and then you had this. The

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Speaker 1: toll number is lower, but just back to back, it's

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Speaker 1: been pretty tough. Forty eight hours, I think at the

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Speaker 1: university and the main person who's been killed, there's another

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Speaker 1: in critical condition. But she was the president of the

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Speaker 1: Young Republicans group. We don't have any hard evidence to

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Speaker 1: suggest that it was targeted, but many people are speculating.

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Speaker 3: Which was one of the rare openly conservative students on campus.

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Speaker 3: So I feel see why people feel like that perhaps

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Speaker 3: she was a target. But how did the FBI or

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Speaker 3: the local authority stuff this?

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Speaker 4: Upser by right?

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Speaker 1: And then the FBI first had a person of interest

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Speaker 1: who was in twelve hours later released that they had

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Speaker 1: the wrong guy. That person's name was circulated, a wrong

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Speaker 1: photo for that person was circulated, so somebody else yet again,

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Speaker 1: and then this person wasn't even right. So those two

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Speaker 1: people have been tard in the media and the internet,

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's some price to pay for that. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to be the most transparent FBI in history. That's

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Speaker 1: when a cash hotel's thing and giving real time updates.

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Speaker 1: But it's not a good look. Similar happened in the

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk case, where there was that person who sort

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Speaker 1: of raised his arm and pretended to be the killer.

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Speaker 1: Was weird. So this kind of thing happens, not a

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Speaker 1: good look. And then the mayor on top of that

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Speaker 1: doubled down. So as of this hour, the killer is

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Speaker 1: still loose and there's a man hunt underway, and the

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Speaker 1: mayor doubled down and said nothing to worry about, go

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Speaker 1: back to your life, go back to your classes, which

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Speaker 1: has a lot of people really really outraged, a lot

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Speaker 1: of parents saying there's no way they would let their

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Speaker 1: kids go to campus and go to class if there's

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Speaker 1: potentially an active killer on the run.

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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. I'll have more with Kosher after this

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Speaker 3: short break, welcome back. Let's have a look now at

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Speaker 3: the scenes in Baltimore for the annual Army Navy Game

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Speaker 3: and I'll give our tedious afflicted lifty viewers.

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Speaker 4: A fair warning here.

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Speaker 3: You will be triggered by the reception the president received.

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Speaker 4: Just wait for that.

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Speaker 18: Rule, joining me for the coin toss.

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Speaker 1: It is my honor and privilege to introduce the Commander

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Speaker 1: in Chief, our President of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: Donald J.

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Speaker 4: Run, what's happen?

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Speaker 17: Thank you for your leadership, and you're continued to support

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Speaker 17: of our service numbers.

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Speaker 19: And our veterans.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I warned you the rule was deafening. The men and

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Speaker 3: women of the services support the President. That much, is clee,

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Speaker 3: and they support the War Secretary as well. Pete Hegzad

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Speaker 3: who came on the field singing living on a prayer, Kosha,

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Speaker 3: tell me about the rivalry between the Army and Navy.

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Speaker 3: The scenes from this game were absolutely wow. The passion

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Speaker 3: was next level.

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Speaker 1: It's an iconic match that happens between them every year

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Speaker 1: around this time of year. It is customary for the

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Speaker 1: President or the head of the d D O doow.

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Speaker 1: We should say to go there. But that kind of roar,

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Speaker 1: as you say, just really shows showcases what we know.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it in recruitment numbers. We've seen it with

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Speaker 1: other aspects and metrics of how they measure a morale

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Speaker 1: and whatnot of the military. And they really do love

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Speaker 1: him and Pete Hagseth, and that came through. It is

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Speaker 1: a friendly rivalry between the two branches, but they really

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Speaker 1: go at it in this.

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Speaker 4: They certainly do go at it.

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Speaker 3: And you're right that boost to recruitment numbers was immediate.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it came even before President was sworn in

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Speaker 3: for his second term after that election resulting in November,

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Speaker 3: the boost was pretty much immediate. Now earlier today, the

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Speaker 3: President signed an executive order classifying bentanyl as a weapon

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Speaker 3: of mass destruction?

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Speaker 20: Have I listened deadly fentanyl flooding into our country? With

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Speaker 20: this historic executive order I will signed today, we're formerly

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Speaker 20: classifying fentl as a weapon of mass.

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Speaker 3: Destruction, which is what it is.

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Speaker 20: No bomb does what this is doing. Two hundred to

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Speaker 20: three hundred thousand people die every year that we know of.

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Speaker 4: So we're formally.

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Speaker 20: Classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

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Speaker 4: Kosha.

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Speaker 3: The Trump administration says the distribution of fentunnel as a

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Speaker 3: well kind to chemical wolfaan. That's how they're tackling it.

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Speaker 1: For sure, it is I think one hundred thousand plus

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Speaker 1: deaths a year. It's a little bit down now since

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Speaker 1: Trump has been in office for the one year, but

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Speaker 1: it's in that range, and it's the number one killer

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Speaker 1: of young men below the age of forty thirty five

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Speaker 1: or forty something in that range, So this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Doesn't get nearly enough coverage either. It's from

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Speaker 1: accidental overdose and or suicide combined with the bad economy

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Speaker 1: and you know all the other things that we talk about,

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Speaker 1: so definitely is a big deal. It's being trafficked across

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Speaker 1: the border, either through humans illegals or drug running tunnels

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Speaker 1: underneath and all of that. It's why he's had the

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Speaker 1: strategy of neutralizing ships in the Caribbean, and that's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion. So doing this, I think declaring

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Speaker 1: it in this way helps shape the conversation around it

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Speaker 1: and draw attention to it because WMDs has been a

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Speaker 1: term that people like and to Iraq and all of that.

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Speaker 1: And it also maybe opens up the available statutes for

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Speaker 1: prosecuting crimes of dealing this further if it's something that's

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Speaker 1: designated to be a wmd Well.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats have certainly fought against the neutralizing of those

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Speaker 3: Narco boats. They're calling it a war crime, and they've

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Speaker 3: gone completely hysterical. How are they going to react to

810
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Speaker 3: this policy? In my mind, it would be hard to

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Speaker 3: argue against something like this because, as you said, it's

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Speaker 3: killing so many Americans, so many Americans under forty.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if they do, then they're going to find themselves

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Speaker 1: in the position, the unfortunate position of defending fentanels. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how they're going to do it. They'll probably

816
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Speaker 1: focus in on the minutia of you know, like he's

817
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Speaker 1: exercising extra judicial powers in some way. I think the

818
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Speaker 1: president is free to rename and reclassify anything, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Golf of America or designating something foreign terrorists or domestic

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization or a WMD. So he can do that

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Speaker 1: with the stroke of a pen. The next guy could

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Speaker 1: undo it with a stroke of a pen. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of the issue, and that's where you want this stuff

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Speaker 1: enshrined in law, and you want the well built and

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Speaker 1: the border very secure in a way that can outlast

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Speaker 1: Trump designating it as this. But I'm sure they're going

827
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Speaker 1: to try to cancel out the optics in some way.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's hear from Borders.

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Speaker 3: Tom Homan talking about the impact border closures, of closing

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Speaker 3: that southern border has had on ventable trafficking, on human

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Speaker 3: trafficking and other tragedies.

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Speaker 21: Under last reministration, over four thousand animals died making that journey.

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Speaker 21: Whether secure border lies are being saved every day, sex

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Speaker 21: trafficking is plummitted, fat nyl has plummitted, No inspected terrors

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Speaker 21: coming across borders plumitted. A secure border means stronger in

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Speaker 21: national security. But most important, I mean saving lives, saving

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Speaker 21: amiens lives, and saving Americans lives.

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Speaker 3: That's something that is often lost in this debate. Kosher,

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Speaker 3: the thousands of lives that have been saved of illegal

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Speaker 3: immigrants who made that perilous journey when the border was

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Speaker 3: wide open, and you never hear about that. You never

842
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Speaker 3: hear about children whose lives have been saved not making

843
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Speaker 3: that dangerous journey.

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Speaker 1: And I think we talked about that last week. There's

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Speaker 1: half a million children just under the Biden years that

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Speaker 1: were trafficked in and about sixty thousand or some of

847
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Speaker 1: them have been recovered. That's huge, people making the journey,

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Speaker 1: the immigrants themselves. It comes up here and there like

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Speaker 1: the boat's going to England or coming here. It's a

850
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Speaker 1: perilous journey, but not enough. And then once they make

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Speaker 1: it here, what's happening to them? Children trafficking, sex, trafficking,

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Speaker 1: the funchannel that we just talked about that's coming in

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Speaker 1: and killing Americans in the community. So it's very smart

854
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Speaker 1: communication and optics because the whole issue had been moralized

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Speaker 1: for so long that it's inhumane and family separation and

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Speaker 1: you know, evil people trying to secure the border and

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Speaker 1: rip up families and migrants that have been here for years,

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to flip it clearly on its head

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Speaker 1: and saying, actually, secure border, save lives. It's pretty catchy

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Speaker 1: and hopefully they're able to really make it stick.

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Speaker 3: Kosha geta thank you so much for your time tonight,

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Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have. I'll see you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night at eleven with Douglas Murray. New's Night is

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Speaker 3: up next.