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Speaker 1: Three cruise worthy stories today, let's get into it for

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Speaker 1: our first life. Three sixty The Kids Tracking software has

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Speaker 1: launched its Nasdaq IPO, which means it will now be

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Speaker 1: due listed on the ASX and the NASDAK.

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Speaker 2: More listings, more opportunities, Give me the rundown jazz Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Live.

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Speaker 1: Three sixty is what they call a family social networking app.

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Speaker 1: It was launched back in two thousand and nine and

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Speaker 1: listed on the ASX in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: In other words, it's the ultimate tool for helicopter parents

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Speaker 2: who want to track their children's every single movement.

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Speaker 1: And as she after Life three sixty bought Tile for

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Speaker 1: two hundred and five million bucks, they're pretty much tracking

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Speaker 1: anything that does or does not move but Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Despite the creepy nature, this app is growing and growing.

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Speaker 1: Yep, we're talking more than sixty one million people using

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Speaker 1: the app each month.

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Speaker 2: In March, Jazz Life three sixty saw its revenue jump

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Speaker 2: by thirty three percent, and.

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Speaker 1: Then in May this year, during its quarterly earnings, the

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Speaker 1: CEO announced they plan to list on the Nasdaq as

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Speaker 1: well as the ASX.

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Speaker 2: And clearly they ain't messing around because the capital raise

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Speaker 2: is officially underway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Life three sixty will i appeal on Monday on

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Speaker 1: the Nasdaq, raising no more than one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: as part of this float. Supposedly, the dual listing is

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Speaker 1: about getting increased exposure to major investors in the US.

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Speaker 2: In other words, we don't think the Australian investors value

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Speaker 1: YEP, so tell me I share what is the key

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Speaker 1: learning here?

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Speaker 2: A duel listing refers to when a company lists itself

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Speaker 2: on multiple stock exchanges.

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Speaker 1: Now, a duel listing isn't common, but it's also not

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Speaker 1: so uncommon.

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Speaker 2: For example, when after Pay was acquired by Block blocked

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Speaker 2: it another listing on the AX.

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Speaker 1: YEP and mining companies BHP and riotin to also have

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Speaker 1: duel listing.

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Speaker 2: And Jazz what's the idea behind this duel listing.

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Speaker 1: Well, it can provide more avenues to access investors when

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Speaker 1: a company wants to raise capital.

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Speaker 2: And potentially allow for more trading time if the exchanges

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Speaker 2: are open at different times.

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Speaker 1: But I Shay Life Throw sixty CEO reckons that Australian

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Speaker 1: shareholders just don't value their growth.

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Speaker 2: But in saying that, Jazz Life three sixty risks doing

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Speaker 2: this duel listing at their own peril.

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Speaker 1: You see Ozzie tech companies like wis Tech, Promedicus and Zero.

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Speaker 1: They actually all trade at a premium to their US counterparts.

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Speaker 2: And that's thanks to the scarcity of global growth companies

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Speaker 1: So Life Throw sixty has clearly chosen to move on

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Speaker 1: from being a big tech fish in a more pond.

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Speaker 2: So our second story, Meta is testing a new feature

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Speaker 2: on Instagram which will force users to watch ads on

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Speaker 2: videos that you can't scroll past.

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Speaker 1: I would hardly call this a feature. HD sounds very painful,

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Speaker 1: so tell me more.

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Speaker 2: So. We all know Instagram, the social media app that

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Speaker 1: RBN, and it was acquired by Facebook back in twenty

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Speaker 2: But just since then, Instagram has grown to become one

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Speaker 2: of the cornerstone apps in the Meta group of companies.

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Speaker 1: We're talking over two billion monthly active users swiping through Insta.

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Speaker 2: Stories, which they stole from Snap, watching instareels, which they

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Speaker 1: But as she Instagram continues to transition from being a

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Speaker 2: And now they're starting to explore new ways to monetize

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Speaker 2: the audience.

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Speaker 1: One of these ways is making some ads on Instagram

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Speaker 1: reels and stories unskippable, or.

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Speaker 2: As Instagram likes to call it, an ad.

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Speaker 1: Break makes it so much more palatable now.

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Speaker 2: It's similar to the free version of YouTube, which requires

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Speaker 2: users to view ads before and in the middle of

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Speaker 1: And for now, this ad break feature is just a test.

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Speaker 2: But it goes to show the extent that Matter is

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Speaker 2: willing to go to to continue increasing their AD revenues.

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Speaker 1: What is the key learning here?

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Speaker 2: Tech companies need to strike a careful balance between user

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Speaker 2: experience and revenue.

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Speaker 1: It's the ultimate trader because more ads generally means more

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Speaker 2: But more ads will also mean more frustrated Instagram users.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, Ahchi, the Instagram spokesperson, said, We're always testing new

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Speaker 1: formats that can drive value for advertisers.

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Speaker 2: Hello, what about formats for your two billion monthly active users?

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Speaker 1: Exactly and ag This is exactly what happened to MySpace

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Speaker 1: after it was acquired by News Corp in two thousand

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Speaker 2: It focused on growing revenue rather than improving its tech

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Speaker 2: platform and usability.

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Speaker 1: And this led to intrusive ads and a poor quality

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Speaker 1: product that ultimately forced News Corp. To sell the business

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Speaker 1: for just thirty five million dollars in twenty eleven. For

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Speaker 1: our third and final story book, Topia is cutting fifty

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Speaker 1: employees and losing its short lived CEO as it struggles

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Speaker 1: to continue staying up float sounds.

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Speaker 2: Like a page turner, Jazz or what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So book Toopier is the Aussie online bookstore that

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Speaker 1: was founded in two thousand and four and they listed

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Speaker 1: on the ASX in December twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: It also owns bookstore chains like Anguson, Robertson and BookWorld

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Speaker 2: remember those Just.

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Speaker 1: That is definitely a throwback in a half.

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Speaker 2: And now book Toopia is facing some rough orders, having

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Speaker 2: announced that it's acting around fifty jobs from the business.

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Speaker 1: And they've also withdrawn their earnings guidance.

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Speaker 2: And that's not all, Jazz tell me more. Booktopia doesn't

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Speaker 2: even have the money available to make these redundancies, so.

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Speaker 1: It's taking out a one million dollar debt to help

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Speaker 1: pay for the costs associated with the redundancy.

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Speaker 2: And if it all couldn't get worse, the company CEO

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Speaker 2: has also stepped down, and.

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Speaker 1: That's after book Tobia's founder was ousted from the company

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two by the board.

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Speaker 2: Yep, the founder was booted from his own company.

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Speaker 1: But may may you come back now? So tell me

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Speaker 1: what is the key learning here?

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Speaker 2: When a founder remains CEO after their company lists, they

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Speaker 2: need to adapt to a different set of rules.

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Speaker 1: See once a company lists downers need a shift from

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Speaker 1: the startup mindset and.

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Speaker 2: They need to focus more on shareholder value and the

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Speaker 1: Ash well, founders do have the best inside knowledge about

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Speaker 1: the company, it doesn't always mean they'll make the best leaders.

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Speaker 1: In Booktobia's case, their co founder was kicked out of

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Speaker 1: his position as CEO by the board.

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Speaker 2: That was after an investigation discovered that he'd sold many

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Speaker 2: of his shares in the company just before a really

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Speaker 2: ugly earnings update and.

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Speaker 1: HJA, with Booktobia's future potentially in shambles, they've now actually

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Speaker 1: brought back this co found out for the next six.

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Speaker 2: Months, which could be a good news for the company

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Speaker 2: or it may spell more trouble.

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Speaker 1: Money is awkward, there is no doubting that, and that's

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Speaker 1: Academy giving you the tools to have money conversations with

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and we'll see you on Friday.