WEBVTT - Sharri | 27 January

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Evening tonight, alban Easy facing defeat at the polls.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring you analysis from.

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<v Speaker 2>An influential labor figure on whether his Prime ministership is terminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Also on the show, Josh Friedenberg joins me to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>Holocaust Remembrance Day and what today the eightieth anniversary of

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberation of Auschwitz mean to him and his family.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a deeply personal interview. This has more shocking videos

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<v Speaker 2>emerged from the qu two anti racism conference. I'll show

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<v Speaker 2>you a Palestinian speaker cruelly attacking Pete Stefanovic's childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>But first let's start.

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<v Speaker 2>With Australia Day and I hope everyone had a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>long weekend. Most of us have celebrated Australia this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet there's a minority filled with hate. We've seen Invasion

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<v Speaker 2>Day rallies once again in major cities. Thousands of people

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<v Speaker 2>marched against the country they call home, waving greens, Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 2>and Palestinian flags.

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<v Speaker 4>See the date change, see the flag change.

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<v Speaker 5>And allies co concolerated with Aboriginals and the Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen Neo Nazis were arrested near the Invasion Day rally

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<v Speaker 2>in Adelaide, not related to it, and one man was

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<v Speaker 2>charged with displaying a Nazi symbol. Others were charged with

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<v Speaker 2>assaulting police. It's disgusting now Neo Nazis aside, these rallies

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<v Speaker 2>are protesting the so called invasion of Australia by the British.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's funny because if.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are so against the colonization of Australia, why

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<v Speaker 2>do they live here. If they're so against Australia being

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<v Speaker 2>invaded by the British, then again, why do they live here.

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<v Speaker 2>They're free to practice what they preach and leave. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's forcing them to stay in our country. For most Australians,

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<v Speaker 2>it is possible to do two things at once. To

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge the dark times of our history, which our country's

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<v Speaker 2>leaders have apologized for, but also to celebrate our great nation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Australia Day is, the one patriotic public holiday

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<v Speaker 2>when we can spend time with family and friends and

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<v Speaker 2>recognize this beautiful, sun burnt country we live in. But

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately we didn't just see hatred at the Invasion Day rallies.

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<v Speaker 2>At the Prime Minister's own official Australia Day celebrations, alban

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<v Speaker 2>Easy posed for a photograph with a hateful activist wearing

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive T shirt. There was such a backlash to

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<v Speaker 2>this that Albanezi had to address it today.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a choice that she made. We do have in

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<v Speaker 5>this country. People are allowed to express themselves. But I

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<v Speaker 5>thought it was disrespectful of the event and of the

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<v Speaker 5>people who that event was primarily for.

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<v Speaker 3>We are a democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Grace Taye may not like news court media and she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to consume it. She'd be better informed if

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<v Speaker 2>she did, but no one's forcing her.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the irony.

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<v Speaker 2>It was news dot com do Au, owned by the Murdochs,

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<v Speaker 2>that spent tens of thousands of dollars fighting to change

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<v Speaker 2>the law in Tasmania in order to bring her story

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<v Speaker 2>into the public domain. She owes a lot to new

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<v Speaker 2>cop journalism and she was so grateful to News Corp

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. She turned up to our Journalism Awards

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<v Speaker 2>and gave a speech expressing her gratitude. If it weren't

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<v Speaker 2>for news dot com dot Au, Grace Tame's story wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been published and she never would have won the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian of the year, but it seems she's now forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>exactly whose journalism and whose money fought for her personal justice.

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<v Speaker 2>And despite his words today, the Prime Minister seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>have no problem smiling happily beside someone wearing a T

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<v Speaker 2>shirt that's highly offensive about one of our country's greatest Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>As he stood there beside her, Albanizi, beside Grace Tame,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help think it was like watching one radical

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<v Speaker 2>left wing activist beside another, because we know Alberzi's history

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<v Speaker 2>as a protester, someone who yelled into a megaphone at

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<v Speaker 2>a rally outside the American Embassy.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Israel.

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<v Speaker 5>Truman children very well with checks.

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<v Speaker 2>As I can't play that clip enough because it shows

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<v Speaker 2>who Albanezi really is, and that's why, unfortunately under his

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<v Speaker 2>current government, Australia isn't at its best right now. Australians

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<v Speaker 2>know that, with polls today showing voters are turning against

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister. Personally, I'm so grateful to have been

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<v Speaker 2>born here in Australia, to have grown up in this

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<v Speaker 2>nation of unparalleled natural beauty and peace. John Howard today

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<v Speaker 2>says that instinctively one embraces that ancient evocation to count

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<v Speaker 2>one's blessing when reflecting on the miracle to have been

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<v Speaker 2>born in Australia. His words resonate, Yet there's no denying

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<v Speaker 2>that as we celebrate Australia Day, we know these are

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<v Speaker 2>among the worst times our nation has seen. It's why

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton's election campaign slogan is to get Australia back

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<v Speaker 2>on track. The very values our country is famous for

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<v Speaker 2>and why we all chose to live here, or our

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<v Speaker 2>parents or grandparents or great grandparents, those values are under threat.

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<v Speaker 2>The very values our veterans risk their lives to fight

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<v Speaker 2>for are now under threat. Instead of peace on our streets,

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing cars, homes, and even a preschool fire bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of makeship and kinship, we're seeing hatred, racism, and

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<v Speaker 2>the unprovoked targeting of one minority group.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to do better as a nation.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason we all love Australia first and foremost is

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<v Speaker 2>it's a safe and relaxed country to live in and

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<v Speaker 2>raise a family. We need to see peace return to

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<v Speaker 2>our streets urgently, or many will reconsider being Australian and

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<v Speaker 2>may start looking for a safer place to live.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The CIA has finally come out and said that the

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<v Speaker 2>origins of COVID nineteen are likely a lablique for an

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence agency that collects top secret intelligence from inside sources.

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<v Speaker 2>This is embarrassingly late. The reality is, after five years,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no substantive evidence at all for a zoonotic origin

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<v Speaker 2>of COVID nineteen, but there is overwhelming evidence to suggest

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic began with risky gain a function re at

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<v Speaker 2>the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Anthony Fauci's agency and other

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<v Speaker 2>US agencies were funding this risky research in Wuhan. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>Fauci has now been preemptively pardoned, an utterly outrageous move

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<v Speaker 2>that deprives the world of answers and accountability for their

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<v Speaker 2>pandemic that has cost seven million lives.

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<v Speaker 3>A pardon for Fauci.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden obviously doesn't care about the justice for seven million families.

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<v Speaker 3>We do care about justice.

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<v Speaker 2>I've personally dedicated a lot of my time over the

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<v Speaker 2>past five years to this topic, not only because we

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<v Speaker 2>owe it to those who lost their lives, but also

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent the next pandemic. Every single aspect of the

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<v Speaker 2>COVID origin story, the funding, the researchers the cover up,

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<v Speaker 2>the intelligence agencies, the scientists we've unpicked with extensive reporting

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation. Yet throughout this investigation, as you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>ABC ridiculed us for even examining the subject of a

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<v Speaker 2>lab leak at all.

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<v Speaker 6>So, how likely is it that the virus escape from

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<v Speaker 6>that Chinese lab? Well, in short, it's not so. Given

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<v Speaker 6>all those expert doubts, was this sensational treatment really justified

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<v Speaker 6>Batman exclusive We think not. We also think Marksman should

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<v Speaker 6>have told readers that almost every virus expert had dismissed

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<v Speaker 6>the lab escape theory. As one senior source admitted to

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<v Speaker 6>the paper, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't rule it out. We can't rule out a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things. It's hard to prove a negative.

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<v Speaker 6>It is, indeed, which is why conspiracy theories like this

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<v Speaker 6>are so hard to kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Conspiracy theories are so hard to kill.

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<v Speaker 3>Conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>The official word from the ABC, and if we'll ever

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<v Speaker 2>see any corrections or apologies given the CIA and the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of US intelligence agencies say.

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<v Speaker 3>The lab leak was the likely cause of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this isn't about me, It's it's about how the

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<v Speaker 2>ABC tries to suppress areas of investigation. That don't suit

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<v Speaker 2>their agenda or aren't fashionable. They do it all the

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<v Speaker 2>time in many subject fields, from climate change to anti semitism.

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<v Speaker 2>On COVID origins, It's embarrassing how the ABC thought they

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<v Speaker 2>knew better.

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<v Speaker 3>They thought they had all the answers.

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<v Speaker 6>And the fact that the virus wreaking havoc across the world,

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<v Speaker 6>sarskov two, is not one the Wuhand Lab was known

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<v Speaker 6>to be working on, and while one of it's bad viruses,

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<v Speaker 6>RaTG thirteen, is closely related, sharing all but four percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the genetic material. That is a significant gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the ant five years ago. But it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC. The Sydney Morning Herald and their science writers

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<v Speaker 2>also repeatedly claimed over the years that there was nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to see here.

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<v Speaker 6>So why did the lab escape theory still dominate the story,

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<v Speaker 6>especially when virus experts had dismissed it three days earlier

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<v Speaker 6>in the Sydney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen did not come from lab. The evidence is

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming that the virus that causes COVID nineteen jumped from

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<v Speaker 1>animals to humans rather than escaping from a laboratory. Virus

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<v Speaker 1>experts say Charry must have missed that bulletin YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>According to The Herald and the ABC, it was case closed.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no lab leak.

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<v Speaker 2>The virus came from an animal, even though not one

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<v Speaker 2>scientist could nominate which animal, and they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to ever since. Yet, as you know, it was far

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<v Speaker 2>from case closed, and the evidence continued to unravel the.

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<v Speaker 3>More you looked into it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're now expecting the CIA to release the secret of

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence that that agency has been holding. COVID investigator David

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<v Speaker 2>Asher tells me that the CIA has emails, messages and

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<v Speaker 2>other correspondents between those involved.

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<v Speaker 7>Director Ratcliffe, who you've interviewed previously.

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<v Speaker 8>Is adamant about declassifying information or releasing information actually is

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<v Speaker 8>already declassified, and then the big question is going to

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<v Speaker 8>be signals intelligence and how much of that gets makes

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<v Speaker 8>its way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trust me, there was a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that full interview will be on the show tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>The new CIA Director John Ratcliffe has argued this intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>should be in the public domain. Here's what he said

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<v Speaker 2>on our Sky News documentary.

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<v Speaker 9>There is more intelligence out there, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 9>see it declassified because it'll create additional pressure, not just

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<v Speaker 9>on Chinese Communist Party officials, but others that still continue

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<v Speaker 9>to deny that China is a bad actor here.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ratcliffe has now told Fox News that it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for the CIA to be honest with.

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<v Speaker 3>The world about its findings.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he spoke to the president about the need

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<v Speaker 2>to restore trust in institutions like the CIA.

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<v Speaker 9>I had the opportunity on my first day to make

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<v Speaker 9>public an assessment that actually took place in the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 9>so it can't be accused of being.

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<v Speaker 3>Political, and it does assess.

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<v Speaker 9>The CIA has assessed that the most likely cause of

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<v Speaker 9>this pandemic that has wrought so much devastation around the

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<v Speaker 9>world was because of a laborated incident in Wuhan.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ratcliffe hinted that Trump might even confront Chinese President

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<v Speaker 2>she about the origins of COVID.

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<v Speaker 9>President Trump needs to have the very best intelligence so

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<v Speaker 9>that when he's negotiating with President g and other adversaries,

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<v Speaker 9>he's able to confront them with the things that we

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<v Speaker 9>know that our intelligence tells us about what our adversaries

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<v Speaker 9>have done to us. So now that it's out there,

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<v Speaker 9>he'll be able to use that to leverage that to

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<v Speaker 9>have honest discussions to put America's our national security posture

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<v Speaker 9>in a better position than it's been for the last

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<v Speaker 9>four years.

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<v Speaker 2>It will of course be big news if Trump does

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<v Speaker 2>indeed decide to do this. And this is the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between a leader like Trump an alban EASi. Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>prepared to have tough conversations with China. Albin Ezi demanded

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation over the accidental death of one Australian, Zomi

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<v Speaker 2>frankm by Israel, which Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Was already investigating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet Albinizi would never dare raise with China the need

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<v Speaker 2>for an investigation into the origins of a virus that

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<v Speaker 2>killed more than seven million people. Worse, the Albenzi government

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<v Speaker 2>criticized Scott Morrison for having the courage to call for

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<v Speaker 2>the origins inquiry. Morrison was of course correct to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the first in the world. You don't tread

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<v Speaker 2>softly to avoid agitating a dictator that's succumbing to their rules.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to defend your own citizens now, one senior

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<v Speaker 2>political figure told me today, Albanezi has a policy of appeasement,

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<v Speaker 2>an acquiescence on China. It's a policy of weakness. He

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be in a more different space to Trump, Rubio,

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<v Speaker 2>and Waltz, and this wedge between their ideologies and foreign

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<v Speaker 2>policy will only become more apparent with each passing day

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<v Speaker 2>of the new Trump administration. Now today is Holocaust Remembrance Day.

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<v Speaker 2>On this day, eighty years ago, Nazi concentration camp Auschwitzberg

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<v Speaker 2>Canal was finally liberated. In truth, it took too long.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nazis came to power in Germany in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three and they were finally defeated in nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Six million Jews perished in the gas chambers, executed, shot

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<v Speaker 2>into shallow graves that they dug themselves, tortured, starved, and

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<v Speaker 2>burned in furnaces. The worst year was nineteen forty two,

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<v Speaker 2>when two point seven million Jews were killed. It was

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<v Speaker 2>mass murder, a genocide in the truest sense of the word,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jewish population has never really recovered, not emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>or in population size.

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<v Speaker 3>The trauma lives on.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Friedenberg wrote a moving piece today where he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I still cannot comprehend how the people of Germany, living

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<v Speaker 2>in such a cultured and civilized society, could descend to

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<v Speaker 2>such depravity and in humanity. To their fellow man. The

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<v Speaker 2>answer is indifference. Bad things happen when good people stay silent.

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<v Speaker 2>We all said never again, we all said we'd never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>We hoped we'd never see such antisemitism again. Yet here

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<v Speaker 2>we are, eighty years on, and it's the indifference we

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<v Speaker 2>need to fight now. The Albanese government, the police, and

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<v Speaker 2>the judiciary showed indifference when antisemitism exploded, at first on

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<v Speaker 2>the steps of the Opera House and ever since. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hardly surprising that with this indifference the racism has only

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<v Speaker 2>escalated the international community too, in forums like the United

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<v Speaker 2>Nations and in human rights groups. Human rights groups have

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<v Speaker 2>shown indifference even as they see with their own eyes

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<v Speaker 2>her Musk murdering, burning, beheading and raping innocent people, including

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<v Speaker 2>babies and children.

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<v Speaker 3>On the weekend, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Watched as four beautiful young women were paraded by a

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<v Speaker 2>terror organization wearing balaclavas with guns. Those girls were stolen

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<v Speaker 2>from their lives, from their families. We will never forget

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<v Speaker 2>the depraved images of how her mus brutalized them.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the place Pennywog wants to recognize with statehood.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's been outrage over the fact that someone who

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been an outspoken advocate on anti Semitism is now

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<v Speaker 2>attending and this will be tonight our time the commemorations

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<v Speaker 2>at Ashville. Johannes Seek summed it up in his brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>cartoon in the Australian Today. Have a look, he wrote there, typical,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much as a word about Islamophobia. Well, now

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Minister Pennywong is at the commemorations, and she made

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<v Speaker 2>some remarks that have caused incredible offense a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago, where she appeared to say that only one

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<v Speaker 2>million Jews had been killed in the Holocaust instead of

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<v Speaker 2>six million.

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<v Speaker 4>What occurred during World War II, The hatred, prejudice, the

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<v Speaker 4>dehumanization and the murder of over a million people and

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<v Speaker 4>a million Jews was something humanity he should never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>Wong faced accusations she was downplaying the number of Jew's murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>It was then curious to see that in her official

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<v Speaker 2>transcript of the remarks she made, they'd been amended. Her

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<v Speaker 2>office wrote in brackets, the hatred, prejudice, the dehumanization and

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<v Speaker 2>the murder of over a million people and a million

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<v Speaker 2>Jews at Auschwitz was something humanity should never forget. Now

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<v Speaker 2>despite a petition, she will be there. She is there now,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's hope her visit moves her to take antisemitism

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<v Speaker 2>more seriously. Let's hope she learns about why the existence

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<v Speaker 2>and the survival of Israel is so important. The late

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<v Speaker 2>Holocaust survivor Eddie Jacou said, I cannot change the past.

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<v Speaker 2>The past is history. I will try with all my

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<v Speaker 2>strength and all my knowledge to change the future.

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<v Speaker 3>That quote.

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<v Speaker 2>His quote in hires me all the time. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter our faith or our background. We all need to

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<v Speaker 2>speak up and do whatever we can to stamp out

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<v Speaker 2>the hatred that we're seeing now. It's our collective responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>as Australians or as global citizens not to allow our

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<v Speaker 2>country and our world to be overtaken by antisemitism. We

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<v Speaker 2>all have this duty and let's do everything we can

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<v Speaker 2>to change our future. And on this day, we're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of your memory, Eddy, and also the six million.

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<v Speaker 3>Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 2>Also we think of those who survived but lost everything

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<v Speaker 2>they held dear, their parents, their children, and their innocent

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<v Speaker 2>life as they knew it. May their memories be a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing and a lesson against complacency. Let's bring in our

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<v Speaker 2>former treasurer and my good friend, Josh Friedenberg. Josh, on

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<v Speaker 2>that note, can you tell me about your personal family

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<v Speaker 2>members who were in the Holocaust and in Auschwitz.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, my story is not unique, Shahi. It's like so

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<v Speaker 10>many austrange Jewish families and indeed Jewish families right around

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<v Speaker 10>the world. I lost many relatives in the Holocaust, both

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<v Speaker 10>on my parents' side but also on my wife's family.

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<v Speaker 10>And I grew up with a great aunt, Mary Friedenberg,

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<v Speaker 10>who actually came to my first speech in Parliament, and

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<v Speaker 10>she was a survivor of the concentration camps, and she

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<v Speaker 10>carried with her for life the tattooed number on her arm,

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<v Speaker 10>and she spoke little about her experience for good reason,

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<v Speaker 10>but it was also a reminder that despite the Nazi's

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<v Speaker 10>best efforts to this destroy the Jewish people, they failed,

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<v Speaker 10>and the Jewish people continue to live on now, facing

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<v Speaker 10>challenges again with the rise in antisemitism following October the seventh.

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<v Speaker 10>But like many other enemies before, Hamas and their fellow

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<v Speaker 10>travelers will fail yet again.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh, in your powerful piece that you've written today on

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<v Speaker 2>the sky News, website, and anyone can read it on

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<v Speaker 2>the website if you haven't done so yet. You wrote

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<v Speaker 2>about how if we were to observe a minute's silence

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<v Speaker 2>for each victim, the silence would extend for more than

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years. And you say that so devastating was the

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis genocide that the world's Jewish population in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five is smaller than it was in nineteen thirty five. Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, both in terms of the trauma that the

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<v Speaker 2>children and the grandchildren carry and in terms of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish population survive. The community is never covered from the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 10>It hasn't recovered numerically, and it certainly hasn't forgotten the

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<v Speaker 10>tragedies of the past. But the community is also very resilient.

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<v Speaker 10>And the State of Israel was not established because of

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<v Speaker 10>the Holocaust, but the Holocaust happened because the State of

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<v Speaker 10>Israel was not established, and I think that's really important

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<v Speaker 10>to remember. A strong Israel is important to the world

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<v Speaker 10>Jewish community, but it's also important to the global community

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<v Speaker 10>at large, and that's underlined by that famous quote from

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<v Speaker 10>Bob Hawk, our own Prime Minister, who said, if the

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<v Speaker 10>bell tolls for Israel, the bell tolls for all of

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<v Speaker 10>mankind and right now as a democracy and a sea

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<v Speaker 10>of hostility, they're facing enormous threats, but they are making progress.

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<v Speaker 10>And we in the Jewish community have a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>friends here in Australia and I'm hoping that the tide

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<v Speaker 10>is turning. And I have been encouraged shari by comments

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<v Speaker 10>in recent days and weeks by Christian leaders, by Hindu leaders,

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<v Speaker 10>by other very brave individuals. Today was Marcia Langton writing

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<v Speaker 10>in The Australian really about about the hatred that has

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<v Speaker 10>been unleashed on university campuses by the weakness and the

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<v Speaker 10>indifference of university leaders in our country. There are a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of great people out there, like Nova Paris and others,

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<v Speaker 10>and it's I think it's encouraging to have their support.

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<v Speaker 10>And I know and you know that there are so

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<v Speaker 10>many Australians who have been appalled by the anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 10>that has been on the rapid rise since October the seventh,

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<v Speaker 10>and they know that it's Australia's fight. They know it's

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<v Speaker 10>Australian values that's been undermined, and they want to see

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<v Speaker 10>our social cohesion restored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I completely agree with all of those remarks

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<v Speaker 2>you made about the incredible support from mainstream Australians who

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<v Speaker 2>unequivocally hate the hatred and the racism that we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a rise. Josh, you represented Australia at the seventieth anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>of the Liberation of Aschwitz. I mean ten years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when you went there, anti Semitism just wasn't a daily issued.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you ever have imagined that we'd be speaking about

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<v Speaker 2>this on a daily basis now?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it was a very solemn occasion and it was

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<v Speaker 10>a great honor to be there, and I thank Tony Abbott,

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<v Speaker 10>Prime Minister at the time for enabling me to go.

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<v Speaker 10>And the most moving speeches back then ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm sure will be repeated again when they commemorate the

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<v Speaker 10>eightieth anniversary, And those speeches were from the Holocaust survivors themselves,

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<v Speaker 10>and I remember a man called Raymond Ken to survivor

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<v Speaker 10>from Oschwitz, who said, don't let our past become our

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<v Speaker 10>children's future. And back then we needed to be on guard,

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<v Speaker 10>and today we need to be increasingly on guard about

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 10>people who want to minimize, deny the events of the

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<v Speaker 10>Holocaust that took place. And I think we have a

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<v Speaker 10>collective responsibility, Shari, particularly our leaders federal and state governments

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<v Speaker 10>to ensure that people across the country understand the gravity

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<v Speaker 10>the scale of the Holocaust and learn about that history

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<v Speaker 10>so we don't repeat repeat it in the coming years.

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<v Speaker 3>So important.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Fredenberg, thank you as always for your strong advocacy

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<v Speaker 2>on this area. Of course, the advocacy that you are

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<v Speaker 2>recognized for just yesterday by The Australian on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>by the Australian as one of their Australians of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Your voice has been so powerful after over the past

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen months, and we're also grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, thank you, Sharon. You not it's not about us

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<v Speaker 10>as individuals. It's always been about the cause. And to

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<v Speaker 10>underline for your viewers, this is austrayas fight. This is

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<v Speaker 10>not just about the safety of the Jewish community. There's

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 10>something much bigger at play and fortunately the tide is turning,

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<v Speaker 10>but there is still a lot of work to do.

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<v Speaker 10>And thank you personally for your advocacy, your strength from

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<v Speaker 10>day one. You haven't taken a backward step and so

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 10>many people not only appreciate that, Shari, they are safer

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<v Speaker 10>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you very much. Josh, we all have

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<v Speaker 2>to do whatever we can. I always say to people,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever skills you have at your disposable, use them because

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<v Speaker 2>this is so important. Josh Fridenberg, thank you again. Now

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>still to come speakers at that offensive QUT anti racism

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>conference attack Mike Sky colleague Pete Stefanovic. I'll show you

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<v Speaker 2>those clips tonight. Plus Albanizi's clifftop mansion haunts him ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of the federal election. Political analyst Jeff Chambers will join

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<v Speaker 2>me next. Welcome back. Let's turn to today's newspoll in

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<v Speaker 2>The Australian and we'll be sending alarm bells right through

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanesi government. Labour's primary vote has fallen two points

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<v Speaker 2>since December, while in the two party preferred survey they're

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>now trailing the opposition. And it's not much better for

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanesi personally. The Prime Minister's approval ratings have slumped

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<v Speaker 2>to their lowest levels since he became PM. Joining me

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<v Speaker 2>now is The Australian's chief political correspondent, Jeff Chambers. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you again. Look, how do you interpret

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<v Speaker 2>these newspoll results when it comes to Albanese's chances of

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<v Speaker 2>winning the next election.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi Shari.

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<v Speaker 11>So just put it in context. At the twenty two election,

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<v Speaker 11>Anthony Alberesi claimed a small majority government on a primary

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<v Speaker 11>vote of thirty two point six percent that primary vote.

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<v Speaker 11>So they're now at thirty one percent at thirty two

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<v Speaker 11>point six which was actually worse than Bill Shortens losing

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 11>election results. That was the worst result in labor history

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<v Speaker 11>since nineteen thirty four. So what we're seeing in this

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 11>preferential system is a system that benefits labor, but there

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 11>are all the hard heads in labor have been perpetually

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<v Speaker 11>concerned about that very low primary vote, and what it

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 11>means is they rely on Green's preferences and they heavily

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 11>relied on the rise of the Teals last time, and

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<v Speaker 11>then they just got there with that big swing against

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<v Speaker 11>the Liberal Party in Perth. So that's where it's looking at.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not a good trend downwards, and if they were

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<v Speaker 11>to go into the twenties, that's very concerning for labor

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<v Speaker 11>and on the other side for Peter Dutton and the coalition.

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<v Speaker 11>What we're seeing in these preferential systems is that a

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 11>coalition is going to need a primary vote of forty

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<v Speaker 11>two percent north to be in a position to win outright,

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<v Speaker 11>So I think it's I think it's Peter Button's getting closer.

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<v Speaker 11>But because of the system that we have, Anthony Alberesi

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<v Speaker 11>definitely benefits from the Greens and the Teals.

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<v Speaker 2>Although if Dutton's primary, even if it stays the same,

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<v Speaker 2>but if it does edge a bit higher, it will

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<v Speaker 2>be hard for the Teals to win those seats back

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>because the Teals to win also rely on preferences as

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<v Speaker 2>well from the Greens and Labor, won't it.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, certainly. And I think this is the issue with

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<v Speaker 11>national polling though, is that it's not going to be uniform,

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 11>So depending if it's a metropolitan inner city seat, a

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 11>regional seat or an outer suburban seat, those preferences will

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 11>flow in different ways. Book, Peter Dutton is certainly on

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 11>the ascendency and we've seen these numbers dropping down and

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 11>Anthony Albernese's personal appeal, He's performance ratings dropping at pace

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 11>since the Voice referendum defeat.

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 2>And I guess this is why the Liberal Party, at

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>least this advert today about Peter Dutton personally have a look.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 12>As a minister. I learned that a strong economy and

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 12>a safe community are central to everything that you sometimes

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 12>need to stand up to vested interests and always make

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 12>decisions in our national interest. The right decisions aren't always popular,

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 12>but I'm not interested in taking me as you passed,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 12>because we live in the best country in the world

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 12>and I'm determined to get Australia back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Jeff, this is clearly designed to personalize Dutton to

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>voters and endear him. Yeah.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 11>Look, it's been a challenge for Peter Dutton to soften

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 11>the so called hardman image, but this sixty second ad,

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 11>it's pretty slick. It covers a lot of ground, it

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 11>takes a lot of boxes, and I think there's a

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 11>telling sign at the end of that advertisement, which will

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 11>be running on tea and social media, where he says

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 11>that you know that being Prime Minister you have to

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 11>make decisions that aren't always popular, and he's willing to

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 11>do that. So yeah, he's trying to I guess contrast

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 11>his style with Anthony Albanesi's.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Just before you Go, You've written that small business owners

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>are shaping up to be key players in this election

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>for both Albanese and Dutton, Why do they hold so

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>much voting sway in this particular election.

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 11>So this out of two point six million companies businesses

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 11>in this country, there's two point five million small businesses.

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 11>They employ five point three million Australians and pump five

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 11>hundred billion dollars annually into the Australian economy. So we

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 11>hear a lot about big business, but as a collective,

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 11>you think about the multiplier effect and the importance of

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 11>small businesses across the country, but particularly out of suburbs

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 11>and the regions that Peter Dutton is looking to pick

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 11>seats off labor. And as we've seen I've written about,

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 11>we're currently experiencing record levels of insolvencies for small businesses.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 11>Its power prices, insurance, insurance premiums and those ranks. So

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 11>you know, whether it's the CBD or in the regions,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 11>we're seeing more and more businesses have to shut down

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 11>and you see Peter Dutton really lining himself up there

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 11>as the champion of small business.

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Jeff Chambers, thank you so much for

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 2>your analysis. Tonight, Now still to come Chump's win over

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Columbia and his vow to clean out Gaza, plus even

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>more shocking clips emerge from QUT's disgraceful anti racism event.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>You know about Dutton's drew, but speakers also attacked Pete

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Stefanovic and made offensive comments about anti Semitism. I'll play

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.240
<v Speaker 2>them after this quick break.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 11>Well.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>An anti racism conference at Queen's University of Technology has

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>been making headlines for being offensive and anti Semitic. Sarah

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Schwartz from the pro Palestinian Jewish Council of Australia mocked

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the idea of what she called Dutton's jew She claimed

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that Dutton's supporters were.

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Racist, evil stereotypes.

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>It's now been, of course, rightly condemned by senior figures,

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 2>including the Federal Education Minister Jason Clare. Now, this was

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>meant to be a conference against racism, but with their

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>lineup of speakers, it was never going to be anything

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>but highly offensive and the university should have known better.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Now Palestinian spokesman Nasamashni, he's in the past called Jew's filth,

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>so they should never have had him there. Now, in

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>clips that haven't yet been broadcast, Nasamashni attacked my colleague

0:35:53.640 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Peter Stefanovic over his childhood.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 7>Come in zephonomic A guy that couldn't have had an

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 7>easy childhood either.

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're meant to be at an anti racism conference.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>He also spoke about the right to criticize antisemitism.

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 7>In Australia, where we're it mastered the art of exceptionalism

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 7>when it comes to hate. You see hating black fellows

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 7>of Palestinian's, Muslims, Chinese, Africans, anyone. It's nuanced cultural debate,

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 7>a career enhandser for some. But don't you dare speak

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 7>about antisemitism? And if you do, don't you dare add

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 7>anything else to that same line? What been a way

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 7>to remind blackfellows of the where they belong on the

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 7>hierarchy of hate than to exceptionalize one form of bigotry

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 7>and elevated above all the others and a point a

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 7>special envoy.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, why are you laughing, Joe? This is

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 3>appalling stuff.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 2>He didn't stop there, he criticized Australia as well.

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 7>There's nothing more Australian than celebrating multiculturalism while simultaneously struggling

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 7>with basic impathy. Definitely colonialism wherever it is. From this

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 7>comment in the West Book World cashier Western's Harbor, and

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.919
<v Speaker 7>of course Palestine always was always all be controu.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>He went on with this rubbish for ten minutes. All right,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm Joe now bias. You know Sky News host Joe

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Hildebrand and former chief as Shorten Cameron Milner. Joe, the

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>university should have stepped in earlier. I mean, mocking Pete's childhood,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>saying those offensive things about Australia.

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 14>These people are completely idiotic. It is just so fascical

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 14>I've always amazed at. How ever more ridiculous it can

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 14>get the fact that this bloke has these incredibly passionately

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 14>held convictions and yet has to read out all these

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 14>comments from an iPhone, the fact that he has to

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 14>sort of, you know, very carefully, sort of choke up

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 14>when he starts to Guzza. But I think he probably

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 14>had to read that off his I phone too, because

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 14>I'm so emotional about it. Sorry, let me refresh the page, Guzza.

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 14>I mean, it's just embarrassing, and the idea that you

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 14>would have you know, Dutton's jew as a as an

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 14>actual you know, I mean, these guys are so stupid.

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 14>It's like they sort of want to get courts. I

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 14>think maybe I don't know, but the idea that you

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 14>would actually have that as a literal projection as well

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 14>as an ideological projection, I think not not since slaur

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 14>at Tingle. Imagine Peter Dutton being racist at a real

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 14>estate auction. I think have we seen such hard evidence

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 14>of racism in the community. Just imagine, if you will,

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 14>you want to talk about exceptionalism, just imagine that being

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 14>done about any other ethnicity. Imagine if it was Dutton's Asian,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 14>Dutton's African, you know, imagine, imagine that about anything like that.

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 14>You would have be slapped with a race hate case

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 14>before you'd even show the door after the conference. It's

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 14>just absolutely staggering. But let them let them hang themselves

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 14>with their own petad Cameron.

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>The woman who spoke about that, who put up that slide,

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>her name is Sarah Schwartz.

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Now she is Jewish.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>She is one of those anti israel Jews, anti Zionist Jews.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>She's from what's called the Jewish Council of Australia, a

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>very misleading name, and the ABC keep having her on

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>as if she represents the views of the Jewish community,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>when she might represent maybe one or two percent I

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>mean media outlets after this, they've got to stop platforming

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>her and Nasa Mashni surely, and.

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 15>Our universities have got stopped being a hotbed of antie

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 15>Israel and anti Jewish student hatred Sharhi. It's disgraceful. They're

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 15>taxpayer funded institutions, and I'm over a vice chancellor coming

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 15>up with the Sergeant Schultz defense. I knew nothing when.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 1>All this is going under their nose.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 3>It's terrible disgrace.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 15>And it's about time government's got serious about where taxpayer

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 15>money went and which have a freeze or fine in

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 15>place every single one of these instances, because then maybe

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 15>the university hierarchy might do something about the hatred on

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 15>a daily basis on their campuses.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent agree, Yep, it's time for that sort

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 2>of action. Now let's turn to Andrew Clenell's interview with

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Albanezi over the weekend, where the Prime Minister defended buying

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>his cliff top mansion.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Not every decision that I make as a human being

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 5>is through a focus group, is about politics. I've met

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 5>someone I want to spend the rest of my life with,

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 5>and what happens when people make that decision. If they're

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 5>in a position too, they go and get a mortgage together.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Joe, he still doesn't understand why there was public backlash

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>to this.

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:55.399
<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 14>I think the PM's blessing and curse is that he

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 14>is incredibly confident and he is also there I say,

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 14>incredibly happy. He is happy in his personal life, whereas

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 14>the rest of Australians are pretty miserable and extremely anxious.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 14>And he also I think has a pretty strong sort

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 14>of she'll be right attitude, even when a lot of

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 14>other people in the party and from outside are thinking,

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 14>hang on a minute, this is going off a cliff here.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 14>So I think I think he's certainly I think he's

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 14>certainly perhaps so he's certainly getting it now and you

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 14>can see that he's talking about it.

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the way he's worried, I.

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 14>Think the way that you the way that you hear

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 14>him talking now. But I really appreciate Yeah.

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 15>Sorry, Cameron, come on, Joe, he's got to stop. He's

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 15>got to stop using Jody. He's a human shield for

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 15>his mistakes. A human shield. I mean, this guy bought

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 15>a four point two million dollar retirement villa, He took

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 15>count Us up grades, He took freebee tickets everywhere. This

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 15>guy's been on a grave train for most of his

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 15>thirty years, and suddenly Jody's the excuse for this guy

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 15>has a pattern of behavior which is completely dismissive of

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 15>what we the public are suffering. He's cost a leading

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 15>crisis and that's the Prime Minister and that's why he's

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 15>so out of touch. But I think it's a terrible,

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 15>terrible that Jodi gets trotted out now as some excuse

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 15>for another another album mistake.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Well look, if you look at the polls, you know

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>most the majority of Australians now think that Peter Darton

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 2>is going to win. I mean the figures aren't quite

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 2>there yet for Darton to have majority government, but the

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>trend certainly in his direction.

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 14>Joe, Yeah, And I think, look, when you're going through

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 14>an economic crisis again, people are going to be anxious,

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 14>they are going to be worried. And when people are

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 14>anxious and worried, they need someone to blame, and they

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 14>will blame the government of the day. And that will

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 14>happen no matter what color the government of the day is.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 14>And the government of the day has to show that

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 14>it has a pathway out of this that is credible,

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 14>that people can understand and that people can believe, and

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 14>that they have the sort of the trust if you

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 14>like the credit in the bank to be able to

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 14>deliver it. And I think a lot of people have

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 14>felt and I know that many people I've spoken to,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 14>both critics and supporters of the PM have said they

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 14>like him. He's a good guy. And again, but he

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 14>just doesn't seem to be getting how worried people are,

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 14>how bad it is. And I think now he is,

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 14>and I think we'll see from now until polling day

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 14>that there will be more sort of meat on that

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 14>bone and more clarity.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you say people are anxious and worried and

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>it's a crisis, But Cameron, isn't it the case that

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:29.760
<v Speaker 2>often in a crisis or a national emergency, leaders stand

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 2>up and they show what they're worth and people stick

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>with them. That's not happening here, Apps.

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 15>No No one votes for a week leader in the

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 15>middle of a crisis. No one votes for a week leaders.

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 15>And that's what Albo is becoming. I mean, Albo is

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 15>Peter Dutton's best friend in this election campaign. I mean

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 15>Albo has been out since Christmas splaying money everywhere spraying

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 15>at me. Which way billions and billions of dollars and

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 15>his numbers are going backwards. Why because the more people

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 15>see of elbow, the more they don't like labor.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's exactly right, exactly right.

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>The more they see of elbow lest they want to

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 2>vote for him, all right, Joe Hildebrand, Kari Mirno, great to.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Have you as always.

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Now, after the break, we're going to look at Donald Trump,

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 2>how he's had a win over Columbia, plus his plan

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 2>to clean out Gaza.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>That's after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's turn to the US now, where Donald Trump's crackdown

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<v Speaker 2>on immigration has received a major boost, with Columbia backflipping

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<v Speaker 2>on its earlier decision to reject deported migrants. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the Columbian president has even offered to give up his

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<v Speaker 2>presidential plane to help lighten the load. Okay, Sky News

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<v Speaker 2>contributed Kosher Garda joins me. Now, Kosher, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>stunning reversal.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed it was.

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<v Speaker 13>It was a busy Sunday for Trump to cap off

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<v Speaker 13>a very busy week one in his administration, and this issue,

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<v Speaker 13>this reversal was so important both tactically and optically, so

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<v Speaker 13>in terms of tactics. It just really shows case how

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<v Speaker 13>in a matter of four hours, I think that's how

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<v Speaker 13>long this episode lasted on a Sunday afternoon, America is

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<v Speaker 13>able to wield its economic might, which is Trump's favorite

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<v Speaker 13>form of leverage, wielding tariffs and sanctioning people and suspending

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<v Speaker 13>visas for Colombian citizens and diplomats and all of that,

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<v Speaker 13>and that was able to get the outcome that he wanted.

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<v Speaker 13>It's also really important optically because it is sending a message.

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<v Speaker 13>This has been his signature issue ever since he entered politics.

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<v Speaker 13>This administration is taking illegal immigrations very very seriously. And

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<v Speaker 13>next up it's going to be Guatemala and other countries

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<v Speaker 13>that are apparently calling emergency meetings to figure out how

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<v Speaker 13>to deal with this, because they're going to be coming

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<v Speaker 13>up and faced with the same thing in the weeks ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Kosher.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has told reporters that he suggested to the King

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<v Speaker 2>of Jordan that he should take more Palestinian refugees. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a look, Okay, we'll play that clip hopefully in a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I should join.

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<v Speaker 16>I'd love to take on more because I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 16>the whole guys, who's strip right now and it's a mask.

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<v Speaker 16>You're talking about probably a million and a half people,

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<v Speaker 16>and we just cleaned out that whole thing. It's literally

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<v Speaker 16>a demolition side right now. Almost everything's demolished. The people

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<v Speaker 16>are dying there. So I'd rather get involved with some

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<v Speaker 16>of the Arab nations that built housing at a different

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<v Speaker 16>location where they can maybe lived me.

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<v Speaker 6>It's any.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Koch.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Australia has issued nearly three thousand visas to Gazans,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Arab nations haven't been pulling their weight.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, those nations famously have not. They shut the door

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<v Speaker 13>basically on any of them. Egypt certainly said that now

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<v Speaker 13>this issue is complicated. Obviously there's different types of leverage

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<v Speaker 13>and complexity involved. Trump's statement there approached it as a developer,

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<v Speaker 13>which is his roots and his core competency. And I

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<v Speaker 13>think it's also politically savvy because it steps side or

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<v Speaker 13>steps around the issue the Jordan in Egypt or sighting,

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<v Speaker 13>which is this is a slippery slope to ending the

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<v Speaker 13>two state solution that BA staunchly support, and so he's

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<v Speaker 13>coming at it from just a developer and humanitarian lens.

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<v Speaker 13>It'll be interesting. He has frozen all new foreign aid

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<v Speaker 13>to all countries except Egypt and Israel, and maybe that

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<v Speaker 13>was part of his calculus where he's going to use

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<v Speaker 13>that as another form of leverage to try and see

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<v Speaker 13>if he can push them to take some more refugees.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Trump's pick fit Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth. He's

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<v Speaker 2>finally been confirmed by the Senate, just very quickly. Kosha,

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<v Speaker 2>how did this go down?

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<v Speaker 13>So this was as many expected because he was a

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<v Speaker 13>little bit of an embattled pick. It was a fifty

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<v Speaker 13>to fifty tie and then Vice President Jade Vance is

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<v Speaker 13>able to cast the tie breaking vote, So all that

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<v Speaker 13>matters is the final outcome.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in.

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<v Speaker 13>He's very different from defense secretaries of the past, and

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<v Speaker 13>he's very much on board with Trump's agenda. So disruptive

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<v Speaker 13>times ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, all right, Kosha, Data, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time. Now, you don't want to miss my show

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night. On Thursday night, as you know, I wasn't here.

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<v Speaker 2>I went out with Strikeforce Pearl, that's the police task

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<v Speaker 2>force investigating the anti Semitic attacks we've seen on our streets.

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<v Speaker 2>I went out with the police on the road and

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<v Speaker 2>I've also had a big sit down interview with the

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<v Speaker 2>Assistant Commissioner in charge of counter Terrorism. It's a really

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<v Speaker 2>tough interview. I ask him about the hate, why there

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been any arrests for hate crimes, Why the hate

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<v Speaker 2>preachers are just allowed to say whatever they like. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to miss tomorrow night's show. I've also got

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<v Speaker 2>James Patterson on the show as well, so I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow at eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>But right now, here's Paul Murray.