WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 19 June 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.519 On Scorne Lives Australia. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Wider Panalty Show. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.120 Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show coming 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.640 up tonight. A disturbing jump in youth crime in Victoria, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.760 as official figures show Victoria Police made the highest number 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.079 of arrests in the forces one hundred and seventy two 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.800 year history. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.640 Donald Trump responds to Tucker Carlson's criticism of his foreign policy. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.520 John Heindereker will join me to discuss that and much more, 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.199 and Adam B. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.480 Coleman will have the rest of the day's big stories. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.080 And later in the hour Kinsey Schofield with all the 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.120 latest royal and celebrity news. And I'm sorry, couldn't be 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.320 avoided any longer. Left he's losing. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.160 It is heavy with the ladies of the view. Let's 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:50.720 not do that. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.440 Let's not do that because if we start with that, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.360 we we have been known in this country to tie 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.480 gay folks. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.440 To the colt. Let's bring in the pattern' all now. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.840 Founder of a Doni Media, Lisa Goddard and Sky News 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:08.319 host Caroline dear Rosso. Ladies, Victoria's the latest crime stats 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.240 have been released and Victoria Police made a record breaking 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.160 seventy five nine hundred and sixty eight arrest in the 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.880 past twelve months is the highest number of arrest in 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.600 the forces one hundred and seventy two year history, and 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.040 a twenty three percent jump from a decade ago. Meanwhile, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.440 youth crime has soared by eighteen percent in the past year. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.759 That's crimes committed by those age between ten and seventeen years. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.200 There were more than twenty five thousand offenses linked to 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.120 youth offenders in the past year. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.360 Lisa, I'll start with you. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.119 These stats are terrible news for the state government here, 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.280 for the Gisinta Allen government, and I'd say it's even 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.960 worse news for the Victorian people. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.760 Yeah, rid of the horrific figures. And you ask anybody 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.560 who runs a small business. There has been a victim 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.400 of crime down there and they won't be prized. However, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.960 I read that the Police Minister had said that the 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.640 government was acting as quickly as they could to respond 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.760 to make a community safety a priority. Well, my question 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.560 to you and riddle me this. If they're acting as 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.760 quickly as they can, you know they've just passed these 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.040 bail laws, tougher bail laws in March, so we're still 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.320 waiting for those to come into effect. Then you've got 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.440 the machete band, Well, hello, we're going to give you 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.160 a three month leave period before. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.000 We actually enforce those. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.880 So if they are actually serious about cracking down and 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.760 really addressing this crime crisis, why are all these delays 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.959 with this legislation that they're putting in. And the other 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.440 interesting figure I saw when we waded through all of 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.920 those is what's happening with family violence? So that's at 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.480 its highest, it's at a ten percent increase, But what's 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.560 really frightening is there's been an eighteen percent increase in 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.280 protection orders being breached. So you hear a lot about 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.560 youth crime, as you should, but we don't hear a 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.200 lot about what they're doing to address that family violence issue. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.520 Absolutely, and I think this is going to become a 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.600 key election issue, Caroline. This is something that the Victorian 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:06.440 government has been weak on during Dad Andrew's terms and 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.280 now just enter Alan they've tried to get tough on crime. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.960 But it's too little, too late, it really is. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.079 And governments love providing solutions to problems that they created, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.760 and this yere particularly when you're talking about things like 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.239 use crime and gang violence. I mean, this is something 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.760 obviously that we're talking about a lot now because it 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.400 has become a really acute issue. But this is something 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.280 that has been happening for a very long period of time. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:39.320 And when you look to something like this, they are 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.000 of course going to want to make it an issue. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.400 They're going to talk really big about being tough on 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.880 this and tough on that, but the fact is they 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:46.560 haven't been. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.720 And I made this comment last night. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.040 In relation to Victoria Police, but a separate issue with 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.040 Andrew Bolt. The problem is is that when you tolerate behavior, 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:01.720 it gets worse because boundaries keep getting pushed and the 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.600 types of violence keeps escalating. So we're just going to 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.440 see more of that continue to happen rita. Because it 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.520 has been allowed to go on like this for such 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.800 a long time, there have been very very few consequences, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.520 and it's very hard to put that genie back in 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:16.960 the bottle. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:19.680 Now. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.960 On the crime issue, we've had Preston's north Land Shopping 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.800 Center enter lockdown for the second time in twenty four hours, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.360 this time due to an electric fire. But the first 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:36.120 lockdown came after a stolen Turner Land cruiser was driven 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.920 through the shopping center yesterday afternoon. Police have arrested an 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.920 East Melbourne man in connection with the incident. But let's 0:04:43.960 --> 0:05:00.000 just have a look at what happened yesterday. Just astonishing 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.800 footage there, Caro. This comes less than a month after 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:08.240 the same shopping center was the scene of a machete brawl. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.760 How can you feel safe shopping there? And how fortunate 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.200 are we that nobody died when that car was just 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.640 rampaging through the center of the shopping center. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.200 Well, when the attack occurred in relation to the machete 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.720 a few weeks back, that's when the immediate machete ban 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.839 went on. So what is the Ellen government going to 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.160 do now is you're going to ban Toyota land cruisers. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.760 See this here is where you actually need to deal 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.279 with the problem and not the symptoms of the problem. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.840 And of course people don't feel safe to shop there. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.520 You know, going to your local shopping center should be 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.840 one of the just most benign things you do. And 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.120 if that there is the sort of thing that can 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.800 just happen at random, then the community is going to 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.640 feel unsafe. And then then you cannot blame the community 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:03.240 when the police are not acting in accordance with their expectations. Obviously, 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.320 this shopping center has become a focal point for certain 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.760 types of behavior, and that there needs to be dealt 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:15.800 with with obviously better enforcement, but also better preventative policing, 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.160 because people should be able to go to Woolly's and 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.400 not be worried that they're going to be run over 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.960 by a land cruiser in the middle of the ball. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.440 Yeah, I think that's a fairly fair expectation. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:28.039 Caro. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.840 Let's talk about former Prime Minister Paul Keating. He's lashed 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.160 out at Richard Miles for suggesting that we should be 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.880 strengthening our ties with the US and mid China's. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.000 Military build up. Paul Keating said. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:47.760 That Miles's comments were a careless betrayal of the country's 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.560 policy agency, and China had no intention of threatening Australia 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.200 nor the US. Lisa, Paul Keating seems to never miss 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.440 a chance to stick up for China. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.160 At this point, reader, I think he could almost be 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.320 editor at large for the People's Daily, you know, the 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.240 rag that is the CCP's mouthpiece, because that's all we 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.560 hear from him. He puts his head up. Remember tween 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.920 twenty one he urged Morrison not to get involved in Taiwan. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.520 You've got him against Aucus's against the nuke subs. He's 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.600 basically sprouting everything you want the CCP to say in 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.920 this country, and again we've seen him take a spray 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.920 now at Miles. So it'll be interesting to see what 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.440 the political pushback is on this from Labor because they 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:27.960 have to look a really fine tie rope on this 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.120 because he is the statesman of the party, but he's 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.480 certainly not back in the mi ind when it comes 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.360 to foreign policy. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.760 No, Karen, do you think there's much support of his 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.160 position within Labor? 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.040 Does he still have any sort of influence? 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.440 Oh, I'm sure you know, people who are that senior 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.800 will always have influence. What is really interesting here is, 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.200 regardless of who's in government, whether it's the Coalition or 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:59.440 whether it's Labor, Keating has really kept consistency in this 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:04.800 position of being quite pro China and obviously continues to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.920 be very critical of Orcus and others. I'm sure there 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.840 is some level of influence, But of course, the thing 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.600 with the Labor Party that is always very obvious is 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.440 while they usually have their internal disagreements, they manage to 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.400 keep them internal So what will be interesting is to 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.440 the extent of anyone who has currency within the Labor 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.400 Party whether they speak out in similar terms. We know 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.280 that Josh Wilson, who's the Member for Fremantle, is not 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.160 a fan of Aucus, but it'll be interesting to see 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.640 how many other people who are MPs or similarly have 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:45.160 that current influence hold a similar position. But I do 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.160 feel that Keating is a bit of an outleer on 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.880 this one. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.959 Now to Brisbane and see for me. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.040 You members walked off the jobs today to protest the 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.839 High Court's decision. There was a court ruling yesterday to 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.120 not overturn the Federal government's takeover of the union, meaning 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.440 it will stay in administration. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.640 Caroline. This caused all sorts. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.439 Of traffic chaos in Brisbane in the CBD today and 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:14.480 there are fears. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.680 That could go on for several days. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.760 Well, the CFME you causes chaos. It doesn't really matter 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.400 whether it's whether it's in the streets or whether it's 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.200 on construction sites or more broadly in politics. You know, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.640 the fact of the matter is is they're used to 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.920 getting their way by being belligerent and so this here 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:38.400 is the very usual playbook whatever. You know, the position 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.600 is here in relation to that administration. You know, the 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.240 court has made a finding and that is just the 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.440 way that it's going to be, so until such time 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.080 as the work of that administration is done, or there's 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.520 some other changes to that arrangement. Unfortunately, the thugs that 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.080 the CFMMEU are going to be subject to it, and 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.240 they can throw all the tantrums that they like, but 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.959 I don't see how that there. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:02.840 Is going to impact. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.120 It's not going to impact that administration, and particularly now 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.880 that they have that court ruling. But we can we 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.480 can expect the continuation of this because this is the 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.400 sort of thing. This is just modus operandi for someway 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:17.359 like the CMBU. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.559 Lisa, how will the Chris of Foley government handle this? 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:28.160 Because you can't have the CBD in traffic chaos for 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.680 any length of period. How are they going to restore 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.000 some order if they continue with these blockades. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.959 Well, there's a few interesting things here, and one of 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:38.960 them is the irony in this. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.880 So they were on the streets and that amongst the. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.160 Chants they were chanting today was we'll never be defeated, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.040 will never be defeated. Well, here's a newsplash for you. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.760 The High Court has pretty much defeated him, so now 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.040 they're out there creating. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.120 All of them. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.200 But the sweet thing for all of the motorists and 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.120 everybody who had their work sites shut down today momentarily 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.319 was that because the administrator did not give approval for 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.280 this protest, so it was considered unlawful. Therefore, if you 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.600 employ any of these workers, you can dock their wages 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.880 for four hours pay. So if you were stuck in 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.280 the traffic this morning, there's a little bit of sweetness 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:11.520 for you. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.400 Now let's go to the UK and Baroness Casey, who 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.400 led the British government's grooming gangs ordered, has revealed how 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.800 authorities try to cover up the truth, even using liquid 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.439 paper to hide the word Pakistani. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.240 Was there deliberate covering up or are you saying that was? 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.680 I think? I think in Rotherham there was deliberate covering up. Yes, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.640 I can speak to that one very in a very 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.840 detailed way, because I was there for six months. We 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.640 did the inspection and I saw a you know, it 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.040 was the night in the inspection room where I was 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.120 going through a child's file and I realized somebody tipacst 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.160 out the word Pakistani literally tip X. People watching the 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.640 program may not even know what that is, but it's 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.040 where you cover up a word. And I thought to 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.640 myself as I picked it off with a paper clip, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.160 I thought, who did that person think they were helping Lisa? 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.440 Her findings are damning and to my mind, this is 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.240 the biggest scandal in modern British history, and there really 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.880 has not been a reckoning for what occurred. And the 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.280 number of young vulnerable girls, women who were abused and 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.640 authorities failed them over and over again. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.160 Yeah, it is just repugnant. You're basically the protection of 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.240 vulnerable children is being sacrificed in the name of political 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.480 correctness of people saying, well, we don't want a risk 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.520 being called a racist, or we don't want to risk 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.079 causing community tension. At what point do you put the 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.880 children's safety first. I listened to an interview with one 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.520 of the victims and she said nine of her offenders were. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:46.680 Charged and arrested. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.920 However, she claims there were another fifty that were never 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.960 brought to justice. So this is an absolute betrayal of 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.000 all of those victims. And look, the only good thing 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.679 that comes out of this is that they do make 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.800 it mandatory that they have to record the ethnicity and 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.840 the nationality of people who are charged. And that is 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.680 a good thing, because that's what you need. There needs 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.080 to be sunlight on this. We need to see who's responsible. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.959 And that's my fear, Caroline, that we really haven't learnt 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.040 the lessons out of this scandal and it could happen again. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.960 Well, the lessons absolutely have to be learned. And the 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.320 thing is, reader, as you well know, this here is 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.280 not some new issue that just popped up overnight. This 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:33.439 here has been happening for years, potentially even decades. And 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.440 when you have got a situation where you know, people 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.079 don't want to talk about ethnicity, or they don't want 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.000 to talk about certain behavior, or there are allegations even 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.760 that social services refer to these young girls as prostitutes, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.080 there is a serious cultural issue. And I don't just 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.360 mean a cultural issue in the sense of race or religion. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.559 I mean more broadly in the way that. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.240 These things are looked at by authorities and the way 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.840 they have dealt with an enforced by authorities. So I 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:09.080 think there's a broader issue there that expands even past 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.960 something like race. But the simple fact of the matter is, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.640 and it's almost like the thing that I said before, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:21.120 you have to deal with the problem head on. And 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.320 the fact of the matter is is where you have 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:31.360 got such systemic failure of children across multiple locations in Britain, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.760 there absolutely has to be a reckoning. And frankly, if 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:41.200 just recording the ethnicity of an alleged defender or whoever 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.880 is convicted, that there should be the minimum, that should 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.160 be the absolute minimum. That are some of the absolutely 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.840 disgraceful conduct from authorities that has gone on in relation 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.520 to some of the most just acute victimization of children 0:14:58.600 --> 0:14:59.600 I think I've ever seen. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.320 Lisa got On, Caroline Dear also, thank you so much 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.520 for your time tonight. Now. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.400 Donald Trump has addressed the fallout from Tucker Carlson's firing 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.880 interview with Senator Ted Cruz and the question of whether 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:18.000 America's role in the Israel Iran conflict will fracture the 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.200 president's supporter base. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.480 Have you seen the Tucker girls in Senator Ted Cruz interview, 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.040 It seems like this issue on whether or not the 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.760 United States should strike is kind of dividing a lot 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:27.880 of your supporters. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.560 No, my supporters are for me. My supporters are America first. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.560 They make America great again. My supporters don't want to 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.360 see around having a grow upon. Tucker's a nice guy. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.640 He called and apologized the other day because he thought 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.520 he said thanks were a little bit too strong, and 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.360 I appreciated that. And Ted Cruiz is a nice guy. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.080 I mean, he's been with me for a long time. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.160 I'd say once the race was over, he's been with 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:53.840 me ever since. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.640 Right, But very simple. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.120 If they think that it's okay for Iran to have. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.800 A nuclear weapon, then they should oppose me. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.280 But nobody thinks it's okay. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.920 People that don't want I don't want to fight either. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.000 I'm not looking to fight. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.320 But if it's situation between fighting and them having a 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.280 nuclear weapon, you. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.040 Have to do what you have to do. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.520 There are certainly many, not a majority, but many on 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.200 the right and many dependents who do not want to 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.440 see America involved in another foreign war. It's a position 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.880 Tucker Carlson has articulated very well, including in the interview 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:31.760 with Senator Cruz. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.479 Let's have a look at a little of that exchange. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.040 How many people living around, by the way, I don't 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.120 know the population at all, No, I don't know the population. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.000 You don't know the population in the country. You seek 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.000 to topple. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.120 How many people living around ninety two million? 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:47.480 Okay? 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.000 Yeah, how could you not know that? 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.360 I was taught from the Bible, those who bless Israel 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.520 will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.760 And from my perspective, I want to be in the 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.920 blessing side of thing of those who blessed the government 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.920 of Israel. Those who bless Israel is what it says, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.000 doesn't say the government of It says the nation of Israel. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.840 So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:11.320 That where is that? 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:12.679 I can find it to you. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.280 I don't have the scripture off the tip of mine. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.360 You pull out the phone and use it. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.160 It's in Genesis. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.080 So you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have context 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.320 for it, and you don't know where the Bible it is. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:24.560 But that's like cr theology. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.040 I'm confused, what does that even mean? 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.639 And earlier today, Donald Trump gave more insights into his 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.760 conversation with Tucker Carlson. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.240 After that interview, It's interesting because I did ask Tucker. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.760 I said, well, are you okay with nuclear weapons. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.800 Being in the hands of her own? And he sort 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:44.800 of didn't like that. He didn't want to reute, but 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.280 he sort of didn't like that. And I said, well, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.520 if it's okay with you, then you and I do 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.640 have a difference. But it's really not okay with him. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.959 Therefore you may have to fight, and maybe it'll lend him, 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.479 maybe it'll lend very quickly. But there's no way that 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.040 you can allow, whether you have to fight or not, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.920 you can allow Iran to have a nuclear. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.639 Weapon because the entire world will blow up. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.119 Not going to let that happen. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.280 Joining me now is President of the Center of the 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.920 American Experiment, John Heinereicher. John, thank you so much for 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:22.159 your time tonight. How concerned is Donald Trump about his 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.119 base fracturing over this issue. I'm going to say he 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.840 didn't seem too concerned during that press conference. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.119 Rita, He's not concerned, and he doesn't need to be concerned. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.600 Tucker Carlson does not speak for any significant portion of 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.840 Donald Trump's base or the Republican Party on this issue. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.840 The idea that there is a significant part of the 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:52.160 Republican Party that is pacifist or isolationist or anti Israel 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.639 is a fiction, you know, there just isn't. Trump's base 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.199 is with him, and I think he knows that. And 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.440 there's poll data. We can talk about it if you want to. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.320 Rito that I think really really supports that. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.960 John, Now let's look at some of that polling. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.920 Fox News has released data just today showing seventy three 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:15.280 percent of registered voters think Iran poses a real threat 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.000 to the US as a thirteen point increase. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.440 From just six years ago. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.080 Interesting too, when you look at the breakdown of the 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:27.680 different voter groups, A majority of Democrats sixty nine percent, 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.679 eighty two percent of Republicans, and sixty two percent of 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:35.360 Independents agree Iran poses a real risk, and those numbers 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.520 are up from twenty nineteen across the board. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:40.840 But John, when it comes. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:45.280 To the strikes against Iran, it's evenly split forty nine 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:52.080 percent approve and forty six percent disprove disapprove. But Republicans 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.840 seventy three percent approval, well above the independence and Democrats 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.080 at thirty two percent. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.000 Is that data where you' expect to debate. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:05.639 It's still showing that the majority of Republicans stand with 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.000 the Trump administration. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:08.639 In backing these strikes. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:10.760 Well, that's right. 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.320 There's a partisan split here Rita, as there is on 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.320 virtually every issue in the United States. But you know, 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.480 another survey came out today I think is really interesting. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:24.520 It was from Jail Partners. They surveyed Americans, they surveyed Republicans, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:30.160 but they also surveyed self identified Mega Republicans. And that's 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.640 interesting because eighty one percent of self identified MAGA Republicans 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.640 say that they support israel strikes on Iran, and sixty 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:43.080 five percent of MAGA Republicans say they support American strikes 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.080 on Iran, even though that really is not even on 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.640 the table at this point, and by eighty four percent 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.840 to three percent. Think about that, Rita in polling, eighty 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:58.840 four percent for three percent, Mega Republicans support Israel, not Iran. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.760 So again, I think Trump's base is with him. I 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.680 think he's got solid support there. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.800 Now, how do you see the administration handling the next 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.840 phase of this conflict? President Trump said today he hasn't 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.760 made up his mind about the US joining Israel in 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.880 striking Iranian nuclear sides, and he also said he will 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.760 likely come to his decision one second before it's due. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:25.480