1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show coming 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: up tonight. A disturbing jump in youth crime in Victoria, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: as official figures show Victoria Police made the highest number 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: of arrests in the forces one hundred and seventy two 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: year history. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: Donald Trump responds to Tucker Carlson's criticism of his foreign policy. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: John Heindereker will join me to discuss that and much more, 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: and Adam B. 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 4: Coleman will have the rest of the day's big stories. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: And later in the hour Kinsey Schofield with all the 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: latest royal and celebrity news. And I'm sorry, couldn't be 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: avoided any longer. Left he's losing. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: It is heavy with the ladies of the view. Let's 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: not do that. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 5: Let's not do that because if we start with that, 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: we we have been known in this country to tie 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: gay folks. 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: To the colt. Let's bring in the pattern' all now. 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Founder of a Doni Media, Lisa Goddard and Sky News 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: host Caroline dear Rosso. Ladies, Victoria's the latest crime stats 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: have been released and Victoria Police made a record breaking 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: seventy five nine hundred and sixty eight arrest in the 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: past twelve months is the highest number of arrest in 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: the forces one hundred and seventy two year history, and 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: a twenty three percent jump from a decade ago. Meanwhile, 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: youth crime has soared by eighteen percent in the past year. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: That's crimes committed by those age between ten and seventeen years. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: There were more than twenty five thousand offenses linked to 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: youth offenders in the past year. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: Lisa, I'll start with you. 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: These stats are terrible news for the state government here, 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: for the Gisinta Allen government, and I'd say it's even 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: worse news for the Victorian people. 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, rid of the horrific figures. And you ask anybody 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 6: who runs a small business. There has been a victim 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 6: of crime down there and they won't be prized. However, 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 6: I read that the Police Minister had said that the 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 6: government was acting as quickly as they could to respond 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 6: to make a community safety a priority. Well, my question 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 6: to you and riddle me this. If they're acting as 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 6: quickly as they can, you know they've just passed these 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: bail laws, tougher bail laws in March, so we're still 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 6: waiting for those to come into effect. Then you've got 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: the machete band, Well, hello, we're going to give you 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 6: a three month leave period before. 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: We actually enforce those. 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 6: So if they are actually serious about cracking down and 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: really addressing this crime crisis, why are all these delays 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 6: with this legislation that they're putting in. And the other 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 6: interesting figure I saw when we waded through all of 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 6: those is what's happening with family violence? So that's at 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: its highest, it's at a ten percent increase, But what's 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: really frightening is there's been an eighteen percent increase in 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 6: protection orders being breached. So you hear a lot about 57 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 6: youth crime, as you should, but we don't hear a 58 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 6: lot about what they're doing to address that family violence issue. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think this is going to become a 60 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: key election issue, Caroline. This is something that the Victorian 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: government has been weak on during Dad Andrew's terms and 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: now just enter Alan they've tried to get tough on crime. 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: But it's too little, too late, it really is. 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 7: And governments love providing solutions to problems that they created, 65 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 7: and this yere particularly when you're talking about things like 66 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 7: use crime and gang violence. I mean, this is something 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 7: obviously that we're talking about a lot now because it 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 7: has become a really acute issue. But this is something 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 7: that has been happening for a very long period of time. 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 7: And when you look to something like this, they are 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 7: of course going to want to make it an issue. 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 7: They're going to talk really big about being tough on 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 7: this and tough on that, but the fact is they 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 7: haven't been. 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: And I made this comment last night. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 7: In relation to Victoria Police, but a separate issue with 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 7: Andrew Bolt. The problem is is that when you tolerate behavior, 78 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 7: it gets worse because boundaries keep getting pushed and the 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 7: types of violence keeps escalating. So we're just going to 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 7: see more of that continue to happen rita. Because it 81 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 7: has been allowed to go on like this for such 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 7: a long time, there have been very very few consequences, 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 7: and it's very hard to put that genie back in 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 7: the bottle. 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: Now. 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: On the crime issue, we've had Preston's north Land Shopping 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: Center enter lockdown for the second time in twenty four hours, 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: this time due to an electric fire. But the first 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: lockdown came after a stolen Turner Land cruiser was driven 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: through the shopping center yesterday afternoon. Police have arrested an 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: East Melbourne man in connection with the incident. But let's 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: just have a look at what happened yesterday. Just astonishing 93 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: footage there, Caro. This comes less than a month after 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: the same shopping center was the scene of a machete brawl. 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: How can you feel safe shopping there? And how fortunate 96 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: are we that nobody died when that car was just 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: rampaging through the center of the shopping center. 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 7: Well, when the attack occurred in relation to the machete 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 7: a few weeks back, that's when the immediate machete ban 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 7: went on. So what is the Ellen government going to 101 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 7: do now is you're going to ban Toyota land cruisers. 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 7: See this here is where you actually need to deal 103 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 7: with the problem and not the symptoms of the problem. 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 7: And of course people don't feel safe to shop there. 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 7: You know, going to your local shopping center should be 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 7: one of the just most benign things you do. And 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 7: if that there is the sort of thing that can 108 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 7: just happen at random, then the community is going to 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 7: feel unsafe. And then then you cannot blame the community 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 7: when the police are not acting in accordance with their expectations. Obviously, 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 7: this shopping center has become a focal point for certain 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 7: types of behavior, and that there needs to be dealt 113 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: with with obviously better enforcement, but also better preventative policing, 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 7: because people should be able to go to Woolly's and 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 7: not be worried that they're going to be run over 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 7: by a land cruiser in the middle of the ball. 117 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fairly fair expectation. 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 5: Caro. 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: Let's talk about former Prime Minister Paul Keating. He's lashed 120 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: out at Richard Miles for suggesting that we should be 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: strengthening our ties with the US and mid China's. 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: Military build up. Paul Keating said. 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: That Miles's comments were a careless betrayal of the country's 124 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: policy agency, and China had no intention of threatening Australia 125 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: nor the US. Lisa, Paul Keating seems to never miss 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: a chance to stick up for China. 127 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 6: At this point, reader, I think he could almost be 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 6: editor at large for the People's Daily, you know, the 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: rag that is the CCP's mouthpiece, because that's all we 130 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 6: hear from him. He puts his head up. Remember tween 131 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 6: twenty one he urged Morrison not to get involved in Taiwan. 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 6: You've got him against Aucus's against the nuke subs. He's 133 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 6: basically sprouting everything you want the CCP to say in 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 6: this country, and again we've seen him take a spray 135 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: now at Miles. So it'll be interesting to see what 136 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 6: the political pushback is on this from Labor because they 137 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: have to look a really fine tie rope on this 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 6: because he is the statesman of the party, but he's 139 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 6: certainly not back in the mi ind when it comes 140 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 6: to foreign policy. 141 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: No, Karen, do you think there's much support of his 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: position within Labor? 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Does he still have any sort of influence? 144 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sure you know, people who are that senior 145 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 7: will always have influence. What is really interesting here is, 146 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 7: regardless of who's in government, whether it's the Coalition or 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: whether it's Labor, Keating has really kept consistency in this 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: position of being quite pro China and obviously continues to 149 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 7: be very critical of Orcus and others. I'm sure there 150 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 7: is some level of influence, But of course, the thing 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 7: with the Labor Party that is always very obvious is 152 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 7: while they usually have their internal disagreements, they manage to 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 7: keep them internal So what will be interesting is to 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 7: the extent of anyone who has currency within the Labor 155 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 7: Party whether they speak out in similar terms. We know 156 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 7: that Josh Wilson, who's the Member for Fremantle, is not 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 7: a fan of Aucus, but it'll be interesting to see 158 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 7: how many other people who are MPs or similarly have 159 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 7: that current influence hold a similar position. But I do 160 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 7: feel that Keating is a bit of an outleer on 161 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 7: this one. 162 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 4: Now to Brisbane and see for me. 163 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: You members walked off the jobs today to protest the 164 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: High Court's decision. There was a court ruling yesterday to 165 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: not overturn the Federal government's takeover of the union, meaning 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: it will stay in administration. 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: Caroline. This caused all sorts. 168 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 3: Of traffic chaos in Brisbane in the CBD today and 169 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: there are fears. 170 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: That could go on for several days. 171 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 7: Well, the CFME you causes chaos. It doesn't really matter 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 7: whether it's whether it's in the streets or whether it's 173 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 7: on construction sites or more broadly in politics. You know, 174 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 7: the fact of the matter is is they're used to 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 7: getting their way by being belligerent and so this here 176 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 7: is the very usual playbook whatever. You know, the position 177 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 7: is here in relation to that administration. You know, the 178 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 7: court has made a finding and that is just the 179 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 7: way that it's going to be, so until such time 180 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 7: as the work of that administration is done, or there's 181 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 7: some other changes to that arrangement. Unfortunately, the thugs that 182 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 7: the CFMMEU are going to be subject to it, and 183 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 7: they can throw all the tantrums that they like, but 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 7: I don't see how that there. 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: Is going to impact. 186 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 7: It's not going to impact that administration, and particularly now 187 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 7: that they have that court ruling. But we can we 188 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 7: can expect the continuation of this because this is the 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 7: sort of thing. This is just modus operandi for someway 190 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,359 Speaker 7: like the CMBU. 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: Lisa, how will the Chris of Foley government handle this? 192 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: Because you can't have the CBD in traffic chaos for 193 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: any length of period. How are they going to restore 194 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: some order if they continue with these blockades. 195 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 6: Well, there's a few interesting things here, and one of 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 6: them is the irony in this. 197 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: So they were on the streets and that amongst the. 198 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: Chants they were chanting today was we'll never be defeated, 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: will never be defeated. Well, here's a newsplash for you. 200 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 6: The High Court has pretty much defeated him, so now 201 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: they're out there creating. 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: All of them. 203 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 6: But the sweet thing for all of the motorists and 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: everybody who had their work sites shut down today momentarily 205 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 6: was that because the administrator did not give approval for 206 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: this protest, so it was considered unlawful. Therefore, if you 207 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: employ any of these workers, you can dock their wages 208 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 6: for four hours pay. So if you were stuck in 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: the traffic this morning, there's a little bit of sweetness 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 6: for you. 211 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Now let's go to the UK and Baroness Casey, who 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: led the British government's grooming gangs ordered, has revealed how 213 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: authorities try to cover up the truth, even using liquid 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 3: paper to hide the word Pakistani. 215 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: Was there deliberate covering up or are you saying that was? 216 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 8: I think? I think in Rotherham there was deliberate covering up. Yes, 217 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 8: I can speak to that one very in a very 218 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 8: detailed way, because I was there for six months. We 219 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 8: did the inspection and I saw a you know, it 220 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 8: was the night in the inspection room where I was 221 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 8: going through a child's file and I realized somebody tipacst 222 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 8: out the word Pakistani literally tip X. People watching the 223 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 8: program may not even know what that is, but it's 224 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 8: where you cover up a word. And I thought to 225 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 8: myself as I picked it off with a paper clip, 226 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 8: I thought, who did that person think they were helping Lisa? 227 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: Her findings are damning and to my mind, this is 228 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: the biggest scandal in modern British history, and there really 229 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: has not been a reckoning for what occurred. And the 230 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: number of young vulnerable girls, women who were abused and 231 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: authorities failed them over and over again. 232 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is just repugnant. You're basically the protection of 233 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 6: vulnerable children is being sacrificed in the name of political 234 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 6: correctness of people saying, well, we don't want a risk 235 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 6: being called a racist, or we don't want to risk 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 6: causing community tension. At what point do you put the 237 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 6: children's safety first. I listened to an interview with one 238 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 6: of the victims and she said nine of her offenders were. 239 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: Charged and arrested. 240 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: However, she claims there were another fifty that were never 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 6: brought to justice. So this is an absolute betrayal of 242 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: all of those victims. And look, the only good thing 243 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 6: that comes out of this is that they do make 244 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 6: it mandatory that they have to record the ethnicity and 245 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 6: the nationality of people who are charged. And that is 246 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 6: a good thing, because that's what you need. There needs 247 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 6: to be sunlight on this. We need to see who's responsible. 248 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: And that's my fear, Caroline, that we really haven't learnt 249 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: the lessons out of this scandal and it could happen again. 250 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 7: Well, the lessons absolutely have to be learned. And the 251 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 7: thing is, reader, as you well know, this here is 252 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 7: not some new issue that just popped up overnight. This 253 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 7: here has been happening for years, potentially even decades. And 254 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 7: when you have got a situation where you know, people 255 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 7: don't want to talk about ethnicity, or they don't want 256 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 7: to talk about certain behavior, or there are allegations even 257 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 7: that social services refer to these young girls as prostitutes, 258 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 7: there is a serious cultural issue. And I don't just 259 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 7: mean a cultural issue in the sense of race or religion. 260 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 4: I mean more broadly in the way that. 261 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 7: These things are looked at by authorities and the way 262 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 7: they have dealt with an enforced by authorities. So I 263 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 7: think there's a broader issue there that expands even past 264 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 7: something like race. But the simple fact of the matter is, 265 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 7: and it's almost like the thing that I said before, 266 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 7: you have to deal with the problem head on. And 267 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: the fact of the matter is is where you have 268 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 7: got such systemic failure of children across multiple locations in Britain, 269 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 7: there absolutely has to be a reckoning. And frankly, if 270 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 7: just recording the ethnicity of an alleged defender or whoever 271 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 7: is convicted, that there should be the minimum, that should 272 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 7: be the absolute minimum. That are some of the absolutely 273 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: disgraceful conduct from authorities that has gone on in relation 274 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 7: to some of the most just acute victimization of children 275 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 7: I think I've ever seen. 276 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: Lisa got On, Caroline Dear also, thank you so much 277 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: for your time tonight. Now. 278 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has addressed the fallout from Tucker Carlson's firing 279 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: interview with Senator Ted Cruz and the question of whether 280 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: America's role in the Israel Iran conflict will fracture the 281 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: president's supporter base. 282 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 9: Have you seen the Tucker girls in Senator Ted Cruz interview, 283 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 9: It seems like this issue on whether or not the 284 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 9: United States should strike is kind of dividing a lot 285 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 9: of your supporters. 286 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 10: No, my supporters are for me. My supporters are America first. 287 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 10: They make America great again. My supporters don't want to 288 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 10: see around having a grow upon. Tucker's a nice guy. 289 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 10: He called and apologized the other day because he thought 290 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 10: he said thanks were a little bit too strong, and 291 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 10: I appreciated that. And Ted Cruiz is a nice guy. 292 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 10: I mean, he's been with me for a long time. 293 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 10: I'd say once the race was over, he's been with 294 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 10: me ever since. 295 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Right, But very simple. 296 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 11: If they think that it's okay for Iran to have. 297 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 10: A nuclear weapon, then they should oppose me. 298 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: But nobody thinks it's okay. 299 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 11: People that don't want I don't want to fight either. 300 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm not looking to fight. 301 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 10: But if it's situation between fighting and them having a 302 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 10: nuclear weapon, you. 303 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Have to do what you have to do. 304 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: There are certainly many, not a majority, but many on 305 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: the right and many dependents who do not want to 306 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: see America involved in another foreign war. It's a position 307 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson has articulated very well, including in the interview 308 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: with Senator Cruz. 309 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,479 Speaker 4: Let's have a look at a little of that exchange. 310 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 12: How many people living around, by the way, I don't 311 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 12: know the population at all, No, I don't know the population. 312 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 7: You don't know the population in the country. You seek 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 7: to topple. 314 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 12: How many people living around ninety two million? 315 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: Okay? 316 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, how could you not know that? 317 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 12: I was taught from the Bible, those who bless Israel 318 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 12: will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed. 319 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 12: And from my perspective, I want to be in the 320 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 12: blessing side of thing of those who blessed the government 321 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 12: of Israel. Those who bless Israel is what it says, 322 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 12: doesn't say the government of It says the nation of Israel. 323 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 12: So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe. 324 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 9: That where is that? 325 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 7: I can find it to you. 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 12: I don't have the scripture off the tip of mine. 327 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 12: You pull out the phone and use it. 328 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: It's in Genesis. 329 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 12: So you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have context 330 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 12: for it, and you don't know where the Bible it is. 331 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 7: But that's like cr theology. 332 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 12: I'm confused, what does that even mean? 333 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: And earlier today, Donald Trump gave more insights into his 334 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: conversation with Tucker Carlson. 335 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 13: After that interview, It's interesting because I did ask Tucker. 336 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 11: I said, well, are you okay with nuclear weapons. 337 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 13: Being in the hands of her own? And he sort 338 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 13: of didn't like that. He didn't want to reute, but 339 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 13: he sort of didn't like that. And I said, well, 340 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 13: if it's okay with you, then you and I do 341 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 13: have a difference. But it's really not okay with him. 342 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 11: Therefore you may have to fight, and maybe it'll lend him, 343 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 11: maybe it'll lend very quickly. But there's no way that 344 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 11: you can allow, whether you have to fight or not, 345 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 11: you can allow Iran to have a nuclear. 346 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 10: Weapon because the entire world will blow up. 347 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: Not going to let that happen. 348 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Joining me now is President of the Center of the 349 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: American Experiment, John Heinereicher. John, thank you so much for 350 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: your time tonight. How concerned is Donald Trump about his 351 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: base fracturing over this issue. I'm going to say he 352 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: didn't seem too concerned during that press conference. 353 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 14: Rita, He's not concerned, and he doesn't need to be concerned. 354 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 14: Tucker Carlson does not speak for any significant portion of 355 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 14: Donald Trump's base or the Republican Party on this issue. 356 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 14: The idea that there is a significant part of the 357 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 14: Republican Party that is pacifist or isolationist or anti Israel 358 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 14: is a fiction, you know, there just isn't. Trump's base 359 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 14: is with him, and I think he knows that. And 360 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 14: there's poll data. We can talk about it if you want to. 361 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 14: Rito that I think really really supports that. 362 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: John, Now let's look at some of that polling. 363 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 3: Fox News has released data just today showing seventy three 364 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: percent of registered voters think Iran poses a real threat 365 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: to the US as a thirteen point increase. 366 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: From just six years ago. 367 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: Interesting too, when you look at the breakdown of the 368 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: different voter groups, A majority of Democrats sixty nine percent, 369 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: eighty two percent of Republicans, and sixty two percent of 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: Independents agree Iran poses a real risk, and those numbers 371 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: are up from twenty nineteen across the board. 372 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: But John, when it comes. 373 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: To the strikes against Iran, it's evenly split forty nine 374 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: percent approve and forty six percent disprove disapprove. But Republicans 375 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: seventy three percent approval, well above the independence and Democrats 376 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: at thirty two percent. 377 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: Is that data where you' expect to debate. 378 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: It's still showing that the majority of Republicans stand with 379 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: the Trump administration. 380 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: In backing these strikes. 381 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's right. 382 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 14: There's a partisan split here Rita, as there is on 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 14: virtually every issue in the United States. But you know, 384 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 14: another survey came out today I think is really interesting. 385 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 14: It was from Jail Partners. They surveyed Americans, they surveyed Republicans, 386 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 14: but they also surveyed self identified Mega Republicans. And that's 387 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 14: interesting because eighty one percent of self identified MAGA Republicans 388 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 14: say that they support israel strikes on Iran, and sixty 389 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 14: five percent of MAGA Republicans say they support American strikes 390 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 14: on Iran, even though that really is not even on 391 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 14: the table at this point, and by eighty four percent 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 14: to three percent. Think about that, Rita in polling, eighty 393 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 14: four percent for three percent, Mega Republicans support Israel, not Iran. 394 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 14: So again, I think Trump's base is with him. I 395 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 14: think he's got solid support there. 396 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: Now, how do you see the administration handling the next 397 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: phase of this conflict? President Trump said today he hasn't 398 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: made up his mind about the US joining Israel in 399 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: striking Iranian nuclear sides, and he also said he will 400 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: likely come to his decision one second before it's due. 401 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: Now, presumed. 402 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: This is his strategy to keep everyone guessing. Do you 403 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: think John he knows precisely what he's going to do? 404 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: Well, maybe not Rita. 405 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 14: I think what he does depends on how things play out. 406 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 14: He won't strike Iran unless the Israelis need us to 407 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 14: strike Iran. And the way it looks to me is 408 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 14: there's only one scenario where that could be true, and 409 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 14: that is the nuclear base at Fordao, the Iranian base 410 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 14: which is buried deep under a mountain, and the American 411 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 14: bunker buster bombs maybe the only thing that get through 412 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 14: that mountain and destroy that base. I don't know. The 413 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 14: Israelis maybe able to disable it even without that weaponry. 414 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 14: But I think if push comes to shove and that 415 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 14: weaponry is needed to finish off Iran's nuclear program, then 416 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 14: I think it's likely that Trump will will give the 417 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 14: green light. 418 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: What about targeting the Supreme Leader? Is that something that 419 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: is a step too far for the administration? Is regime 420 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: change really not a goal right now? It's all just 421 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 3: about eliminating Iran's nuclear ambitions. 422 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 14: Reader regime change actually absolutely needs to be the goal. 423 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 14: If the Moolas stay in power, they are going to 424 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 14: get back to to they'll reconstitute Tomas and Hezbola, which 425 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 14: have been devastated. A little time will go by and 426 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 14: they'll start working on the nuclear weapons again. The world 427 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 14: is not safe until Iran starts to become a normal, 428 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 14: modern country, which is what I think the large majority 429 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 14: of Iranians want. So one way or another, I do 430 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 14: think regime change needs to be the goal. Now that 431 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 14: doesn't necessarily mean in killing the Ayatola. I think there 432 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 14: are various ways that could take place. In the end, 433 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 14: it's going to be up to the Iranian people, but 434 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 14: I think we should do what we can to try 435 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 14: to bring that about. 436 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Now you mentioned the Iranian people and what they want, 437 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: I want to play you a bit of footage from Iran. 438 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: This was shot by a man in Tehran. Footage of 439 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: Israeli fighter jets over the city near the Supreme Leader's residents. 440 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: Me Duni. 441 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 15: Mashallahala I speak for Persian and those translations are accurate. 442 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: He was just pleading with them to strike to hit 443 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: the targets. Undoubtedly, there are many Iranians in Iran and 444 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: those who've already fled, who want to see the end 445 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: of this regime, and they really don't care if it's 446 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: Israel or the US that make it happen. 447 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 14: John Well, Rita, you're familiar with the concept of a 448 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 14: preference cascade where people have been oppressed and nobody can 449 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 14: say what he really thinks, because if you do that, 450 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 14: you might get shot. And then things start to change 451 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 14: and things start to shift, and all of a sudden 452 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 14: people start saying what they actually think. And once that 453 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 14: begins to happen, things can change very very fast. And 454 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 14: we have seen regimes collapse virtually overnight. It turns out 455 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 14: that they're much more fragile than people thought. And I'm 456 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 14: hopeful that may happen in Iran, that the Iranians may 457 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 14: find a way to rise up and get rid of 458 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 14: this terrible regime. 459 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, just on domestic matters. The inflation 460 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: rate has been lower under Donald Trump than the Biden administration. 461 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: It's stayed low and Act of Fact dropped despite tariff 462 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: is Real wages are up slightly. The illegal immigration crisis 463 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: is certainly over. How do you judge this second term 464 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: compared to Donald Trump's first term. 465 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 14: Well, he's off to a much better start. We had 466 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 14: have no doubt about that. And I think a key 467 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 14: point is he is fulfilling his campaign promises. He's doing 468 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 14: what he said he was going to do. He's closed 469 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 14: the border, real wages are up, inflation is flat, he's 470 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 14: at least begun the process of trying to get a 471 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 14: handle on government spending, and he's starting to rebuild the military. 472 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 14: These are things he promised to do when he's doing them, 473 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 14: so I think he's off to a terrific start. 474 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: John Heindereka, always a pleasure. Thank you so much for 475 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: your time tonight, Thank you, Rita. 476 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: Still to come. 477 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: Left He's losing it, Plus the latest from the US, 478 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: including how Donald Trump turned a flag raising ceremony into 479 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: a comedy skid. 480 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: Adam B. Coleman has the details. You're watching the Reader 481 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 4: Paney Show and it's time for. 482 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: Lefties losing it. And you know, we've heard the ladies 483 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: of the view say something crazy, catastrophically dumb stuff over 484 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: the years. 485 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: They are a rich source of material for. 486 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: This segment, but this week they've really hit a new low. 487 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Listen to this derangement here. 488 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: Woo Be Goldberg claims that Americans can't be critical of 489 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: Iran's gross human rights abuses because life is just as 490 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: bad for Americans in America if they're different, if they're 491 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: gay or. 492 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: Black, and it's slow. 493 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 16: But let's just remember to the Iranians literally throw gee 494 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 16: people off of buildings. They don't have to beathic humans. 495 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 9: Let's not do that. 496 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: Let's not do that, because if we start with that, 497 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 5: we have we have been known in this country to 498 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 5: tie gay folks to the cold. 499 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm but wordy. 500 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: Irani sing are just black people. 501 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: So it is not even the same. 502 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 9: I couldn't step No, that's. 503 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: Not what you mean to say. It is the same. 504 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 16: No, it's not the year twenty twenty five. The United 505 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 16: States is nothing like if I stepped foot wearing This 506 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 16: younger interacted from I'm sorry. I mean I can't have 507 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 16: my hair showing, I can't wear a skirt. I can't 508 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 16: have my. 509 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 4: Telling you as age. 510 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 16: I literally said it was up to the Iranian people. 511 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it is up. 512 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 5: And that's why I am. 513 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Saying that it is the same. 514 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 12: Murdering someone for their difference. 515 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 4: Is not good. Whoever does it's not good. 516 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 5: So that's why I said you you weren't saying what 517 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 5: you What I heard was not what you meant. 518 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 16: I think it's very different to live in the United 519 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 16: States in twenty twenty five than it is to live 520 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 16: in an. 521 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: You're black, not for everybody, not every black. I mean, 522 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: why do you even start? 523 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 3: Is she really likening crime happening in America to the 524 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: Iranian regime the government killing gay people, killing infidels, beating 525 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: and locking up women for showing their hair. 526 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: Can she possibly be that stupid? 527 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: Or is she just a massive liar because right now 528 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: there are no other options. 529 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 16: Nobody wants to diminish them very real problems we have 530 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 16: in this country. Well, but I think it's important we 531 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 16: remember there are places much darker than this country and people. 532 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 5: Everybody feels that way. Not everybody feels that way. 533 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm sorry. 534 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: You know when you think about the fact that we 535 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: were we got the vote in nineteen sixty. 536 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 16: Five, Okay, they don't have free and fair elections in Iran. 537 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 16: It's not even the same universe. 538 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: They can't go out of their house. 539 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: You know what. 540 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: There's no way. 541 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: I can make you wonderstand No words are not your 542 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: friends will be neither as logic and facts. 543 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: Perhaps why Savior. 544 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: The awful affluent white female lefty joy Behar can explain 545 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: it for you. 546 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 17: Try to reverse roles with a black person in this country, 547 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 17: let's say, because I think that's what you're talking about. Yes, 548 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 17: just try to understand from their point of view. From 549 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 17: that point of view, this country does not do them well, does. 550 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 9: Not go complete. 551 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: And we shouldn't compare crativity. 552 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 17: If you're talking about around around of course is doing 553 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 17: worst ones, but relatively speaking, well, you know it feels bad. 554 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: Relatively speaking. 555 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: Are these women insane? You heard Sonny there say we 556 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: shouldn't compare atrocities, what like someone not respecting your pronouns 557 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: compared to being hung in the public square for crimes 558 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: like adultery, homosexuality, and blasphemy. 559 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: Really, and the viewers. 560 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: Had a terrible week because they had Hollywood star and 561 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on and he being a 562 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: bit of a TDS sufferer, they expected him to rail 563 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: against Trump's deportation program. 564 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: He didn't, and they weren't happy. 565 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 17: You are an immigrant, you're an immigrants country. Did you 566 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 17: have a visceral reaction to what they're doing, what ISA 567 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 17: is doin when you see the videos of it. 568 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you said that the immigrant I'm so 569 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: proud and happy that I was impraised by the American 570 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: people like that. I mean, imagine it came over here 571 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: with the age of twenty one, but absolutely nothing, and 572 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: then to create a career like that. 573 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: Oh no, he's not answering. 574 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: Is they expect maybe he'll eventually bag the country, bag 575 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: the deportation program. But no, Arnie wants immigrants to behave legally. 576 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: But the key thing also is at the same time 577 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: that you got to do things legal. That is the 578 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: important thing, you know. So you've got to do things legal. 579 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: And those people that are doing illegal things in America, 580 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: and they're the foreigners, they are I'm not smart because 581 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: when you come to America, your guest, and you have 582 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: to behave like a guest and to make my pad 583 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: and to do everything that is the right thing to do, 584 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: rather than committing a clime or being abusive with something 585 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: like that. So that doesn't really work in this country. 586 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: Did you see Sonny's hand just reach out and touch 587 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: his arm there, trying to curb his stream of consciousness. No, honey, 588 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: you are supposed to say, nobody is illegal. There's nothing 589 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: wrong with breaking the law to into the country or 590 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: breaking the law while in the country. Now let's check 591 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: in with an IVY League graduate. Here is one from 592 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: Columbia decked out in a kafir naturally, and what a 593 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: useful degree he's acquired today. 594 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 18: I'm graduating with a degree in comparative literature in society. 595 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 18: The comparative literature department at Columbia's call because it asks 596 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 18: you to choose a couple of languages and bil the 597 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 18: sort of pargepardge degree of your interests. 598 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: What kind of job can you get in this field? 599 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 18: People go to med school, people are to law school. 600 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 18: A lot of people go to any amount of graduate school. 601 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 18: And then I feel like a lot of people also 602 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 18: end up in corporate spaces as well. 603 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: And sadly that's the problem. 604 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: These brainwashed activists end up in the corporate world and 605 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: do great damage while they're often in HR or corporate 606 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: affairs departments. 607 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: Now, good news, some new pronouns have just dropped. 608 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: You know they them zzy So twenty twenty four, now 609 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: the crazy narcissistic kids are identifying with new pronouns like 610 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: pop and puppy. 611 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 19: Pup puppy for why might someone want to use pup 612 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 19: puppy as pronouns? Well, this person can have a strong 613 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 19: connection to puppies and identify with some of their qualities 614 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 19: like loyalty, energy, or softness. It could also be a 615 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 19: way to express a non human identity. Some people feel 616 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 19: that being human doesn't fully describe who they are, so 617 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 19: they identify as non human. So using pronouns like pop 618 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 19: puppy can help a person describe that feeling. And please 619 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 19: remember that this is a person's experience, and just because 620 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 19: you don't know or you can't relate to this person's 621 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 19: experience doesn't mean that it's wrong, doesn't mean that it's bad, 622 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 19: and it does not mean that you have the right 623 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 19: to bully that person. 624 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: But you can mock them because it's fun and frankly, 625 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: it's a little bit necessary. 626 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: You see, affirming madness, affirming delusion isn't being kind, it's 627 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: being weak and. 628 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: Part of the problem. 629 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: But for those of you who want to respect your 630 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: pronouns like pop and puppy, this is how. 631 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: You do it. 632 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 19: No one's trying to hurt you by using these pronouns. 633 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 19: No one's trying to harm you by using these pronouns. 634 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 19: Someone's just trying to live their own life. So you 635 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 19: live your own life and you let them live their 636 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 19: own life. Okay, Pop doesn't know anyone an explanation. Pup 637 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 19: gets to define puppyrself or not. People keep asking, but 638 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 19: Pup made it clear what Pop is isn't up for discussion. 639 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Donald 640 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: Trump is the funniest president we've ever had and we'll 641 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 3: ever have. No other leader could turn a flag raising 642 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: ceremony into a comedy. 643 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 10: Skit in some way that you have that anyway, Let's 644 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 10: have a good They called it lifting. They also use 645 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 10: another word, but I'm not going to use that word. 646 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: You know that it is the word. 647 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 10: It starts with an e. 648 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: You know what the word is. 649 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 10: If I ever used it, I'd be run out of 650 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 10: town by you people. 651 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: All right, So enjoy it. 652 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: And President Trump hosted Juventus at the White House and 653 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: the issue of men in women's sport came about, and the. 654 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: Team scripted it men playing in women's sports. 655 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: You know, he was never have you ever had women? 656 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 10: Could a woman make your team? 657 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 13: Fell us? Tell me you think did you give me 658 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 13: a nice what do you think I think a woman 659 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 13: could make the team? 660 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 10: General managers, what. 661 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: Do you think? We have a very quick we do that. 662 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: But they should be playing. 663 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: With women joining me now is commentator and author of 664 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: The Children Were Left. 665 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: Behind, Adam B. Coleman. 666 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: Adam will get to the more substantive issues shortly. But 667 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: how disappointing that those stars, soccer stars couldn't just say 668 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: what they thought, couldn't say the obvious that men don't 669 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 3: belong in women's sport. 670 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 20: I mean, it's mildly disappointing, but it doesn't shock me 671 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 20: that they didn't have much to say. Professional athletes are 672 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 20: often trained to deal with the media, and they're often 673 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 20: told to take the easiest position, the most non political statement, 674 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 20: very vague statements about how they feel about any given topic, 675 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 20: and usually to keep their comments relating to their profession. 676 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: So it really doesn't shock me. Is it disappointing? 677 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 20: Yeah, But at the same time, they're not necessarily activists 678 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 20: stating something that is obvious. I think everybody's face expressed 679 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 20: how they felt was that, well, yes, women shouldn't be 680 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 20: playing alongside them. There is a competitive advantage that men 681 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 20: have over women, but they're just not going to vocalize it. 682 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 20: So no one objected to it. They just tried to deflect. 683 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: They did. 684 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: I think that Trump was very nice in saying they 685 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: were being diplomatic. 686 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 4: But this is a ninety ten issue. 687 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: You should be able to say something that's not particularly 688 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: controversial to say men don't belong in women's sport. Now, Adam, 689 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: this is astonishing. Nearly seventy thousand individuals have signed up 690 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: for a new US residency program called the Trump Card, 691 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: which requires a five million dollar investment to gain legal residency. 692 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: So it's seat of a green card, this is called 693 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: a gold card. That's a lot of money right there, 694 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: five million times seventy thousand, and it's not even been 695 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: implemented yet, and you've. 696 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: Got that many applications. 697 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually they want a much higher goal. 698 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 20: They're looking at potentially very quickly once it becomes available. 699 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 20: Having one hundred thousand available, has stated that he wants 700 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 20: a million, right, He's trying to raise upwards of five 701 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 20: trillion dollars to go towards the deficit. You know, that 702 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 20: five trillion it's nothing to you know, shy away from. 703 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time. 704 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 20: Our deficit is upwards close to forty trillion dollars, so 705 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 20: it's you know, it's to chip away at the problem. 706 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 20: But there are a lot of questions as far as 707 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 20: will this be economically sound? Are there any sort of repercussions? 708 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 20: Are we just attracting one particular class of individual to 709 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 20: come in, assuming that they're going to stimulate the economy 710 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 20: rather than just find a place for them to lay 711 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 20: their head. So, you know, there are a lot of 712 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 20: questions surrounding it, but it is to be fair replacing 713 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 20: the EB five visa program, which has a lower threshold, 714 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 20: but it does have a job creation requirement. 715 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're investing five million just to 716 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: enter the country, that it's probably going to create a 717 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: few jobs. I mean, it's hard to do to invest 718 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: that kind of money without some sort of economic activity 719 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: and job creation. 720 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 4: Now, I want to ask you about some. 721 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: Footage that I played a little bit earlier off the 722 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: View program, where will Be Goldberg argue that blacks in 723 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: America have it as bad as the people of Iran. 724 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: I was astonished by this position, but I'm interested in 725 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: your response. 726 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 3: Is this a widely held view in the black community 727 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: as far as. 728 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I was equally astonished. 729 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 20: It is very ignorant to see that it's equal and treatment, 730 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 20: especially if you're talking about modern day, which is very interesting. 731 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 20: In the conversation that she was having, quickly she ran 732 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 20: to nineteen sixty five when we're talking about modern Dan, Yeah, 733 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 20: Iran versus Mardern Dan America. The problem that I see 734 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 20: is that wealthy elite lacks tend to have very little issues, 735 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 20: so they hold on to a collective oppression, right, this 736 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 20: perceived oppression. Meanwhile, they always avoid how comfortable their life is. 737 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, Woopie Goldberg is a multi millionaire. 738 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 20: I would be willing to bet that she lives a 739 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 20: very luxurious life, and she's around people who look like 740 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 20: her and don't look like her on a consistent basis, 741 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 20: and the amount of oppression that she deals with is 742 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 20: incredibly minimal in today's standards. 743 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Right. 744 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 20: I can't speak for how her life was in the 745 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 20: eighties and the seventies, you know, when she was very young. 746 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 20: But today it's very comfortable, and she has to go 747 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 20: to some sort of group oppression because her life is 748 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 20: lacking that oppression. So much of this is honestly just pathetic. 749 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 20: It's very sad to see someone who is so privileged, 750 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 20: she should be the success story, but she to feel 751 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 20: some sort of compulsion to adhere to a group narrative 752 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 20: that doesn't fit her life. 753 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: Adam big Holman, thank you so much for your time tonight. 754 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 4: Thank you still to come. 755 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: Why Princess Kate was a no show at Royal Ascot. 756 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 4: Kinsey Schofield has the details. Welcome back. 757 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 3: Joining me now is celebrity and Royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. 758 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: Kinsey Country music singer Oliver Anthony is back. He became 759 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: an overnight sensation with this tune called Richmond North of Richmond. 760 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 6: I've been selling my soul working holiday over time for 761 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 6: full pay so I can sit down here. 762 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 5: You know. 763 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: After that we thought he was a bit of a 764 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: one hit wonder. But his back with a broken heart 765 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: and his pen and new song that's an absolute bang 766 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 3: up called Scornful Woman. 767 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: Arm Warmer. 768 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 3: Kinzia, what's the story behind this absolute cracker of a song? 769 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, so the song was inspired by Oliver Anthony's divorce. 770 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 9: Joe Rogan recently described the making of the song, saying 771 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 9: he starts making millions of dollars playing arenas the wife 772 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,959 Speaker 9: divorces him. She wants everything. She wants more than half. 773 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 9: She wants all the money he's going to be making 774 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 9: in the future because she was with him when he 775 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 9: was broke. He's just tortured, wants to die and writes 776 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 9: this song. I mean, you're right, it's completely blown up 777 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 9: the internet, and I mean all of us can relate 778 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 9: to somebody wanting something from us that we don't think 779 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 9: that they deserve. 780 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 3: And I think got Taylor Swift has told us all 781 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 3: that great musical success comes from heartbreak. So yeah, he's 782 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 3: he's got to capitalize on this. 783 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 4: Now, let's talk the Royals. 784 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: Kate Middleton has unexpectedly skipped Royal Asked God. The Daily 785 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: Mail reporting that while the Princess of Wales was disappointed 786 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 3: to not be attending, she has to find the right 787 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 3: balance as she fully returns to public facing engagements. Kinsey 788 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: to be a lot of concern about Kate's health. 789 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: What can you tell us. 790 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 9: Well to manage our expectations. Earlier this year we were 791 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 9: told by the Palace to expect a gradual return from 792 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 9: our for work from Catherine. I think we've been pleasantly 793 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 9: surprised by the amount we have seen her so far 794 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 9: this year. When I saw her over the weekend, she 795 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 9: was using her oversized hats to hide her little sneezes. 796 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 9: She might just be feeling under the weather, and we 797 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 9: want her to protect herself and per absolute best. 798 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: Now, Megan Markle is announced that her Confessions of a 799 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 3: Female Founder podcast, well, it's going into hiatus. Is that 800 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: the same as it's never coming back? 801 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 4: Againsia. Why she resting this particular project. 802 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 9: I know you're so concerned about this. I know that 803 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 9: we I mean, do. 804 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: We need to wind sleep tonight? This will be. 805 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 9: Hard for you to process. But Megan Markle claims her 806 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 9: Confessions of a Female Founder podcast will be going on hiatus, 807 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 9: allowing her to focus on her other projects, like her 808 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 9: reality TV show in her as Ever brand. Now, I 809 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 9: think that this is her being dishonest. News Week reported 810 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 9: that the podcast came into the Spotify charts at number 811 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 9: twenty four in April tenth, two days later after its release. 812 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 9: The publication states that archived versions of the site show 813 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 9: that April twelfth, it had dropped out of the top 814 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 9: one hundred. Confessions of a Female Founder was not an 815 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 9: analytical success. Of course, she going to put it on 816 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 9: the back burner because if she doesn't, we're going to 817 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 9: constantly remind her of what a failure it is, along 818 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 9: with a lot of her other projects. 819 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: Now she has appeared on someone else's podcast and she 820 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 3: made a number of revelations. 821 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: Take us through those, Kinsey. 822 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 19: Well. 823 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 9: One of the questions that the host asks is if 824 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,479 Speaker 9: she could rewrite her public narrative from scratch, if there's 825 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 9: anything she would do differently, and she responded yes, she 826 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 9: would ask people to tell the truth. I mean what 827 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 9: classic megan blaming others. When asked if she ever gets angry, 828 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 9: she said peaks and valleys her dear friend Serena, referencing 829 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 9: Serena Williams told her years ago a life ever eight 830 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 9: years is a long time, but not forever. She also 831 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 9: said it's okay to say no, girlfriend. We know you're 832 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 9: like the poster child for quitting. You lasted in the 833 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 9: royal family for seventeen months. You just told us you 834 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 9: you're quitting your second podcast basically the post search what 835 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 9: happened to American Riviera Orchard. Obviously you have no problem 836 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 9: with the word no. But she's clearly obsessed with others 837 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 9: making money off of her because she complains about how 838 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 9: her influence in fashion, how it was weird to watch 839 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 9: other people make money off of the things she wore, 840 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 9: but also criticizing people using affiliate links around her children's clothing, 841 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 9: which I think you and I've actually discussed Megan having 842 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 9: affiliate links for Catherine and William's children on her new Instagram. 843 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 9: So it's just massive hypocrisy. Well you know something we've 844 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 9: come to expect from the Duchess. 845 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: Well, yes, If Megan wasn't being hypocritical, I don't know 846 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: what she'd be doing with her days. Now let's talk 847 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: about Derek Dixon. He's suing Tala Perry for two hundred 848 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: and sixty million dollars of alleged sexual assault and harassment allegations. 849 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 4: What's the heart of this? This is a massive lawsuit. 850 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 851 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 9: So in court documents, Dixon claimed that the pair met 852 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 9: wall Tyler was Tyler. He wanted to audition for Tyler 853 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 9: Perry at Tyler Perry's studios, and they meet at an 854 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 9: event in twenty nineteen where Perry allegedly picked this guy 855 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 9: out of the crowd, and he claims he was given 856 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 9: a role at this event that required frequent conversations with 857 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 9: Tyler Perry, and he includes some of those text messages 858 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 9: in this documentation. The conversations are pretty icky. Never forget 859 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 9: this is Lily Sussex's Megan's daughter's godfather. He denies the allegations, 860 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 9: but he says that Perry initially promised him career advancement 861 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 9: and creative opportunities such as producing his own pilot. He 862 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 9: casted him in some of his shows, only to subject 863 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 9: him to escalating sexual harassment, assault and battery, and professional 864 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 9: retaliation when mister Dixon did not reciprocate Perry's unwanted advances. 865 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 9: But I do want to stress that Perry's counsel calls 866 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 9: the lawsuit a scam, and it says that this person's 867 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 9: just trying to take advantage of Tyler Perry, so calling 868 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 9: it a shakedown. We'll have to see how all of 869 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 9: this unfolds watch this space. But you're right, this is 870 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 9: very damaging for Tyler Perry, who has created an empire 871 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 9: for himself in Atlanta. 872 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's not just a movie star or a writer. 873 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 3: He's a mogul. Is one of the big players and 874 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 3: friends with Megan and Harry as well. They seem to 875 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 3: be involved in every story we're covering tonight. Now to 876 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 3: a new report that has Brad Pitt still having strained 877 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: relations with his kids. 878 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 4: His kids with Angelina and Jolly. 879 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 3: This is very sad kinsy that these children are a 880 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: strange from their father. 881 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 9: Do we know why, Well, it's because the divorce was 882 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 9: so vicious between Brad and Angelina. Angelina has claimed that 883 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 9: there was a physical assault that was investigated and nothing 884 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 9: ever came to fruition out of that on an airplane. 885 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 9: US Weekly claims that Pitt carries a deep emotional weight 886 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 9: regarding his family. He reportedly only sees his youngest two 887 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 9: children periodically. The Insider alleged that the rests of the 888 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 9: relationships are strained. Some of them have dropped the last 889 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 9: name Pitt in their as adults and in their professional 890 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 9: in the entertainment industry. So this has to be hard. 891 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 9: And of course he's having to deal with a lot 892 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 9: of these stories circulating right now. He's got a new 893 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 9: project coming out, but also has a beautiful young girlfriend 894 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 9: that he can take on the red carpet to distract 895 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 9: from some of the past. 896 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 3: It's a bit of a distraction, but if your kids 897 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: aren't talking to you, nothing could be worse than that. 898 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: Imagine at Kinsey Schofield, thank you so much for your 899 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 3: time tonight, and that's all the time we have up next. 900 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 3: It's Newsnight, I'll see you tomorrow Night for lefties losing 901 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: it at nine pm