WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 12 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the skying In Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Sherry. Look for to seeing hi again tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>night on and off the air. Now big one, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got forty tonight. Yes, of course, domestic politics more proof

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<v Speaker 1>Albot is digging a hole deeper by the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition looking to fill it sooner rather than later. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tap the brakes on some of this Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>vote talk. I'll explain why in a second. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you care about the American election, which I know you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Jad Evans, who's not had many good days, had a

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<v Speaker 1>really good day yesterday slamming CNN to their face. Well done.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to all of that, our own

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<v Speaker 1>health matters and the fears of what may well be

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<v Speaker 1>there for all of a us into the future is central.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those things, of course, is that many people

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<v Speaker 1>have a concern that one day they could end up

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<v Speaker 1>with some form of lessening of the brain outright Alzheimer's, dementia,

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<v Speaker 1>a phasia, or mayor or the many many different things

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<v Speaker 1>where we just aren't our normal selves. And Alzheimer's in

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<v Speaker 1>particular is something that I didn't know this until I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the numbers today that one in ten Australians,

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<v Speaker 1>one in ten Australians right now are have For many

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it is suffering. There's no other way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the families around it, of course it is

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<v Speaker 1>so deeply painful. So tonight's leads story is to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you some good news and it comes from the university

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<v Speaker 1>called UCLA. Now, this, of course is the University of

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<v Speaker 1>California in Los Angeles. Now they have apparently come up

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<v Speaker 1>with a new pill that may well be a wonder

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<v Speaker 1>drug when it comes to Alzheimers. Now, these things are

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<v Speaker 1>all if sparts, maybe see what happens. I don't push

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<v Speaker 1>drugs for the sake of the clickbait or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is mainstream stuff that is being discussed, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is still a little while off. But imagine in a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime if there was some sort of capacity to help

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<v Speaker 1>save people from parts of this disease. Today, the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, repeated in The Australian, says the medical researchers

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of California and Los Angeles have unveiled

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<v Speaker 1>a potential treatment for the devastating disease. No surgery. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be taken as a pill or syrup. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is all about the way that electrons work in the

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<v Speaker 1>brain to get them firing. The way they have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing the tests to this point is that they gave

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<v Speaker 1>the treatment twice daily for two weeks to some mice,

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<v Speaker 1>and they gave a placebo otherwise no treatment to other mice,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were put into an experiment to see how

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<v Speaker 1>they would go. Now, this is one of those mazes

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<v Speaker 1>we've all seen those things that exist. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>whole series of breeding things that took place to change

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<v Speaker 1>their brain, and they were put all three groups through

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<v Speaker 1>the standardized memory test known as a maze where they

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember their way through to find an escape hoole. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the mice with Alzheimer's that had received the placebo, they

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<v Speaker 1>performed very poorly, so exactly as you would expect someone

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<v Speaker 1>with something like Alzheimers or an animal with Alzheimers to

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<v Speaker 1>end up having that effect. The mice with the ours

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<v Speaker 1>homers that had received the treatment where they crushed it,

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<v Speaker 1>they performed nearly as well on the test as those

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't have the disease at all. Now it's early stages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if butts maybees. But for the people who know

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<v Speaker 1>the one in ten Australians that have it, or the

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<v Speaker 1>nine out of ten Australians that have a fear that

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<v Speaker 1>one time, towards the back end of our life, we

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<v Speaker 1>may end up experiencing it. Today is a day of

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<v Speaker 1>good news. Fingers crossed that the collective brains there and

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<v Speaker 1>around the world will be able to give hope where

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<v Speaker 1>so often hope slips away, strength and love to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's dealing with that before any sort of a treatment

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<v Speaker 1>like this becomes a reality to the lesser matters. Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Queensland, I love Queensland. Why am I saying it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a que in Question Time and automatically I

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<v Speaker 1>was triggered while trying to peripherally read documents here. Well

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<v Speaker 1>in Question Time today, one issue remains dominant. It remains

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<v Speaker 1>the same in all the polls, which of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Prime Minister is in a world of pain

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<v Speaker 1>on multiple fronts. Take your pick. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living, Australians, of course are under enormous strain,

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<v Speaker 1>a severe cost of living pressures. That's a headline from

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<v Speaker 1>a labor strategist who is here on Sky News today.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's run through some of the issues that this

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<v Speaker 1>government is dealing with right now, and no wonder they

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<v Speaker 1>are in the polls situation that they are. What about

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<v Speaker 1>power bills, Well, as you know promise us two seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five reduction in stelle, electricity bills are set to rise.

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<v Speaker 1>And even then the three hundred dollars off the power

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<v Speaker 1>bill stuff which has not actually started to flow yet

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently a couple of states haven't signed off on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is costing b four billions of dollars and it

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<v Speaker 1>only goes for one year, and that's just to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a headline to try to get themselves through an election.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example, childcare workers. Every question the government asked itself

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<v Speaker 1>today in question time was about a PA rise that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be going to the people who are involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the early education of our kids. Now, of course it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't daycare, it isn't babysitting. Early education is important in

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<v Speaker 1>setting up kids for primary and then high and then

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<v Speaker 1>tertiary education if that's what you want to go to. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there is way too much wokeness, and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this many times before. Where there's more focus on welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to country, there is on national anthems, but the importance

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<v Speaker 1>and the role of formalized education as early as possible

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<v Speaker 1>in life will plenty of evidence points to that being

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing. Well, they are about to get a

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<v Speaker 1>major pay rise, but the pay rise is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be paid for by the people who employ them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to become a permanent feature of the

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<v Speaker 1>federal budget this year, next year, and the year after

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<v Speaker 1>the first three years of that deal. Well, how much

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<v Speaker 1>does it cost for them to buy a headline?

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<v Speaker 2>Childcare workers to receive a ten percent pay rise in December,

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<v Speaker 2>another five percent a year later, all up an extra

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty five dollars a week at a

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer cost of three two point six billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Age care workers as well receiving an ordered pay rise

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<v Speaker 1>from the Fair Work Commission, the federal government decided that

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<v Speaker 1>they would pay that again, bake it into the budget.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost there eleven point three b four billion dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>do I want pay rises for all of these sectors? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Do I want it baked in to every

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<v Speaker 1>budget for every year to come? Maybe not? Only because

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<v Speaker 1>this treasurer himself and the Intergenerational Report tells us that, Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a spike in revenue that means surplus this year,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, maybe probably because it's an election year next year,

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<v Speaker 1>but every year in front of that into the future

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<v Speaker 1>for the next forty years, we go into deficit. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you keep adding baked in spending like they inserted

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<v Speaker 1>things like the NDIS, like the Howard government inserted things

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<v Speaker 1>in like family tax benefits, all of those things become permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second that you start to have less revenue

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<v Speaker 1>than you have expenditure, the deficits, well, they get deeper

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<v Speaker 1>and faster, and they go for longer. So again, is

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<v Speaker 1>anyone opposed to the pay rises. No, the methodology by

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<v Speaker 1>which we are going to pay for it so the

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<v Speaker 1>government can buy a headline, Well, yeah, you're allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but of course that's not the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the unnuanced politics of question time works. Well, on top

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<v Speaker 1>of all of that, and I could list a whole

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<v Speaker 1>collection of other things, what about this, Despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the politicians in the building of Parliament House have

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<v Speaker 1>received not one, not two, but three pay rises since

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<v Speaker 1>this government came to power, The people who guard Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>House in the Australian Federal Police, well they are potentially

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<v Speaker 1>going to walk off the job. Now. This is despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they are literally the line of defense

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<v Speaker 1>for our Parliament. Thankfully, all day every day they don't

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<v Speaker 1>fire a shot, and all day every day there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a threat. But on the days when one turns up,

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<v Speaker 1>you want people there are going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>defend the crucible of democracy in this country. Those people,

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<v Speaker 1>in part are the Australian Federal Police. Well, guess who

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<v Speaker 1>is not giving the Australian Federal Police the pay rise

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<v Speaker 1>that they have given to other parts of the public

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<v Speaker 1>service or have baked in permanently to the federal budget

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<v Speaker 1>in things like early childhood education or aged care nursing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Australian Federal Police. The Federal Police are seriously

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<v Speaker 1>considering walking off the job, meaning the Parliament would not

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<v Speaker 1>be guarded by the Australian Federal Police while Parliament is

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<v Speaker 1>in session for the next little while as a way

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to get this pay rise. Now, for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to walk off the job is drastic. When it is

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<v Speaker 1>the security professionals, then clearly the priorities of the government

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<v Speaker 1>are skewiff. The priorities of the government are not in

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<v Speaker 1>the right place. Meantime, other problems that this government is

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<v Speaker 1>not dealing with hospitals. Can you believe that Australia does

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<v Speaker 1>not have the IV drips? We don't make anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that in Australia, so all of these things get imported

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest of the world. The stock has now

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<v Speaker 1>started to run out, so there was a huge worry

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend about whether or not we had enough

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. Now, remember when it was rat tests,

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<v Speaker 1>how the Labor Party went ballistic, how the media went ballistic. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>something like an IV drip would be used in every hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>every day, every year, every season. Pandemic, no pandemic. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea that there could be a shortage of that supply

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<v Speaker 1>is an example of a government that is not focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the real issues. State and federal governments. But whatever

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<v Speaker 1>role the federal government plays, why is this happening? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's all happening again on the Prime Minister and his

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<v Speaker 1>minister's watches. This, of course a minister who did not

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<v Speaker 1>get moved aside, despite again the performance of ambulance ramping

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of other things that are in so

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<v Speaker 1>many public health institutions right around the country. And then

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<v Speaker 1>of course there are the people who we were told

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<v Speaker 1>were the heart and soul of why we needed to

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<v Speaker 1>have a Royal commission into the robodebt scheme, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course chased people for either incorrectly accounted or at times

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<v Speaker 1>false debts for social security. Some of those people ended

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<v Speaker 1>up taking their own lives. Now, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the scheme had been shut down and apologized for, we

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<v Speaker 1>still got a Royal commission into it anyway. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course it wasn't about fixing the scheme. It was about

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that they could hang it on the previous government. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's about to happen here when we hear that an

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<v Speaker 1>NDIS participant has died after she was being chased for debts?

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<v Speaker 1>Any plan on a question on this in Question Time

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<v Speaker 1>now Again the exact circumstances in and around this young

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<v Speaker 1>lady in her final days vitally important. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>had to have a royal commission to go back over

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<v Speaker 1>the victims who needed to be heard, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the scheme that all of this was about had

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<v Speaker 1>already been shut down and compensation have been paid for,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the one this government's running now today? And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's our education system it doesn't matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much money that we have thrown at it. The results

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<v Speaker 1>in the education system have gone down, down, down. The

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<v Speaker 1>discipline has gone down, down, down. And now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>take it or leave it style of negotiation which is

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<v Speaker 1>happening between the federal government, which is labor, and all

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the states, which is labor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>states are not taking the deal. So this bloke is

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<v Speaker 1>spending billions of dollars to buy a headline two little

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<v Speaker 1>too late tax cuts that have not moved the needle

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<v Speaker 1>for people when it comes to dealing with the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living. They have also spent billions of dollars trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say that they're going to help out with power bills,

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<v Speaker 1>when the reality is the twenty five dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>is already being eaten up by the increases in power

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<v Speaker 1>bills that come in part because of this government's obsession

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<v Speaker 1>with moving from one system that worked to another one

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<v Speaker 1>that fingers crossed will work and costs a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>This bloke is in a world of pain. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a world of pain because politicians always are and circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>they are not always in control of, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>not a limitless bucket of money. But when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to find binions, they can do it to buy a headline.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are several people from the public schools, the

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<v Speaker 1>public hospitals and even the people who guard our Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>who are all saying this government is missing in action.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here right, which of course brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the Prime Minister. As we've told you before, polling

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<v Speaker 1>is moving against him as preferred prime minister in the

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<v Speaker 1>Resolve poll. Also his standing about what Australians think of

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<v Speaker 1>his performance as Prime minister. Cherry showed you before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll double down here. Well done to Christopherdall writing an

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<v Speaker 1>opinion piece in the Nightly, which is the Channel seven

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they put out online each and every night,

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<v Speaker 1>where very cleverly Anthony Abernezi is the raygun of Australian politics,

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<v Speaker 1>making reference to that ridiculous nonsense of the break dancing

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<v Speaker 1>at the Olympics. Now this bloke doesn't miss our iconic

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<v Speaker 1>bee girl is all Bunning years, kangaroo hops and body drops.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Albow is all top labour chops and policy flops. Hallelujah,

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<v Speaker 1>clever good take the piss out of these people. They

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it. Like the dancer Albinizi is spinning on his

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<v Speaker 1>head and landing on his ass. Pm x DJ Albow

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<v Speaker 1>is missing the beat and we're paying the price. Albo

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<v Speaker 1>and Raygun might be ironic cult heroes in some circles,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is absolutely certain is their doping moves will

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<v Speaker 1>not pay the bills. Well done, excellent. The opinion polls

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<v Speaker 1>back up this view as well that the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>who of course apparently is lovely and delightful, but of

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<v Speaker 1>course heran up to it when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>real issues. They had a solution how to win an election,

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<v Speaker 1>no question, but their solution to running a country well

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<v Speaker 1>on how many different levels can they fail all at once?

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of everything everywhere, all at once, as the film

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<v Speaker 1>was of course called. As you see today in the

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<v Speaker 1>news poll the Labor Party is in a world of

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<v Speaker 1>trouble thirty two percent. That's down from the last one

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<v Speaker 1>and down from the last federal election. The Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty nine percent is oh so close to the

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<v Speaker 1>magical forty. They win elections if they are at forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I always have to say the Teal vote matters,

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<v Speaker 1>the Teal seats matter, and they are the big block

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<v Speaker 1>between government or opposition. But we'll all wait and see

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<v Speaker 1>whether people have had enough of the government and therefore

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<v Speaker 1>will step away from people like the Teals. But also

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a look at the Prime minister now. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the multiple prime minister in a row who decided

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<v Speaker 1>to set a bar for themselves that proves success.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't lost, to go back to Nemesis, we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>lost a news poll since I've been Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but a few months ago he had a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty year and he's got a fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Now we will see whether this turns fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one to forty nine in which direction. But after the

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<v Speaker 1>performance in Parliament, the reality of the economy, the fears

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<v Speaker 1>of the people have in particularly when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Reserve Bank. I wouldn't betting the house on the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party right now. As well as another poll, the

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<v Speaker 1>Resolve poll. We told you this in great detail last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty one percent of the country repeat, fifty one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, when asked by the channel on newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>say the Prime Minister's performance is poor or very poor.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is the one that is really going

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<v Speaker 1>to drive the point home. Because how many of these

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<v Speaker 1>issues are considered to be the top priorities of Australian voters.

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<v Speaker 1>When you compare the Labor Party to the Liberal Party,

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<v Speaker 1>on which issues people think the Labor Party is better on, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're behind the Liberal Party by seventeen points. On the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>they are losing badly. Managing the finances otherwise known as

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<v Speaker 1>the federal budget, they are losing badly. They are down

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen points. Defense, They are losing badly fourteen points immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>where remember everything was so terrible we had to flip

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<v Speaker 1>the ministers thirteen percent. So the Treasurer is involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the budget, The treasure is involved in the economy, The

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<v Speaker 1>Finance minister is involved in the budget. The Finance minister

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<v Speaker 1>is involved in the economy, the finance of the Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Minister and Deputy Prime Minister is involved in defense. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was the immigration ministers who decided to get the flip.

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<v Speaker 1>So guess what. The reshuffling of a cabinet and the

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<v Speaker 1>reshuffling of ministers, the reshuffling of deck chairs on a

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<v Speaker 1>political titanic, It doesn't actually change anything. Again, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a great golf between the people who talk about politics

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<v Speaker 1>full time and the reality of voters who live with

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<v Speaker 1>its consequences. The same people who told us the budget

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<v Speaker 1>was fantastic and more offterward early election because this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn everything around and everyone's going to love

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<v Speaker 1>a tax cut. Who told you on Budget night too little,

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<v Speaker 1>too late? Now we know what moves the needle here.

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<v Speaker 1>We also know what the blocks are to a potential

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<v Speaker 1>change in government.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never been a person who's ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever told you this is a one term government,

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<v Speaker 1>never ever, And you know how I can't stand them.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the issues are moving the way they are,

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<v Speaker 1>the personal ratings are moving the way they are, and

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<v Speaker 1>the two party preferred is moving the way it is. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say that's what's in its future,

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<v Speaker 1>but the automatic assumption that the only party that may

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<v Speaker 1>be in a position to form minority government is Labor

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to change. Now let's get to this Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>vote stuff. Now. Islamic people in Australia have grown by

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<v Speaker 1>population over the years after coming to the country, after

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<v Speaker 1>multiple generations being born in the country. The numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>relatively small in terms of the national figures, but as

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about before, like many minority communities, they end

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<v Speaker 1>up sort of clustering in certain areas, particularly Western Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally speaking, the results in those areas of which

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<v Speaker 1>people live that have high Islamic populations have resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid results for the Labor Party. Let's speak about

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of Watson. The seat of Watson in Western

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney is the one that is owned by own sorry

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<v Speaker 1>held by the Home Affairs and Arts Minister Tony Burke.

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<v Speaker 1>Now tomorrow apparently we're going to hear that there will

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<v Speaker 1>be a independent who is planning to stand and we

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<v Speaker 1>will learn more about the organization behind this person tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to pump the brakes on people who

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<v Speaker 1>believe that quote unquote, the Muslim vote is going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a whole bunch of Labor MPs tipped out on

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<v Speaker 1>their backside. Now there is a chance that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a few little effects in the Senate. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>preference whispering that is now at the heart of some

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, which means there may well be a

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<v Speaker 1>result of a senator who may will magically appear from

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<v Speaker 1>a place like New South Wales getting the sixth and

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<v Speaker 1>final spot. But in terms of the number of MPs

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<v Speaker 1>that are about to hit the floor. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Let me explain why. Now, Yes, even though

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<v Speaker 1>there's a significant Islamic population in the seat of Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly if it decided to vote for a community

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<v Speaker 1>independent that was to the Labor MP, then Tony Burk's

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<v Speaker 1>vote would fall. But at the last election, Tony Burke's

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<v Speaker 1>vote in that seat was fifty one point five to

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of the vote almost fifty two percent. Was

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<v Speaker 1>then followed by the Liberals, the Greens, United Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>One Nation. So let's imagine that you insert another person

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<v Speaker 1>here and they get fifteen percent of the vote, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they would not end up getting into the preference game

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<v Speaker 1>because they would have to poll higher than the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party and they have to finish second. For them to

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<v Speaker 1>actually win the seat and end up defeating the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 1>they would need the preferences of the Greens, United Australia Party,

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<v Speaker 1>One Nation and the Liberals. That is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the seat of Watson. Now, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>believe we're going to be in a scenario here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>When let's imagine that it ended up at Sievio half

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<v Speaker 1>of the vote a quarter of the vote total, but

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<v Speaker 1>half of Labour's vote disappeared and it ended up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone at twenty five, twenty five, twenty five. Well, does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone believe that the local Islamic candidate running on the

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim vote or whatever the brand is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to end up sending the preferences of the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone think the Liberal Party is going to send

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<v Speaker 1>the preferences to whomever the local independent is. No. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>the Teals have been able to get there because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>but the Liberal Party sends their preferences to the Teals.

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<v Speaker 1>Many major parties end up running dead in those seats

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get the Teal to finish second and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the preferences to get you up and over

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent tomorrow night, seven point thirty. Fascinating little insight

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<v Speaker 1>into what may or may not be happening. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the true consequences here are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the Senate level potentially, rather than the seat level, unless,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they're going to start preferencing the Libs. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be happening. Well, Fatima, payment of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>senator who decided to move from the Labor Party to

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<v Speaker 1>an independent who, by the way, apparently according to the press,

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<v Speaker 1>has decided to hire a preference whisperer from a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different state to work for her in her office. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she is going to well make more news. He's part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. That it's not that she did the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>thing by crossing the floor, it's that more Labor people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't join her.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd probably say that I didn't expect the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 4>to not follow its own platform. I've been hearing from

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<v Speaker 4>people on the ground that they do feel betrayed that

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't me who crossed the floor. It was the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of my caucus members in the Senate who crossed

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<v Speaker 4>the floor to the wrong side.

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<v Speaker 1>That and a whole lot more tomorrow Night's seven point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Jonathan Lee Special Report, So Andrew Bolt first and

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<v Speaker 1>then Clash of Faiths tomorrow and if you miss it

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<v Speaker 1>live and of course be up at sky News dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. Now, it seems that the latest thing

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<v Speaker 1>that of which the people who finger wave for black

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<v Speaker 1>band is gambling advertising. Now, let's be very clear, many

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>people think there's too much of this on their television,

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and even Peter Dutton of course stood up and said

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<v Speaker 1>that within an hour of game time, you wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to have one of these ads. So there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some movement there. Of course, is the

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<v Speaker 1>take it or leave at non disclosure agreement to style

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<v Speaker 1>of negotiating from the most transparent Prime minister of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and there will not be a total ban on this

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<v Speaker 1>form of advertising. Apparently the government is going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>the line that they believe that there should be a

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<v Speaker 1>cap on the number of gambling ads that can be played,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly at any one time on any one day, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out the details about that later. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is fascinating watching how these sorts of issues bubble up

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<v Speaker 1>and fall away. Now, without doubt, problem gambling is horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no question about it. But there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>people who run and talk loudly on this subject because

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite unquote easier to fix many of the other real,

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<v Speaker 1>deep and other real and deep problems that exist in

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<v Speaker 1>our society. So you get many people that are sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in and around the independent world of politics trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put a bit of pressure on the government. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Greens decide to vote against the government on

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<v Speaker 1>this if the Libs decide to vote against the government

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<v Speaker 1>on this, well then there's going to be no change.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, people like Jackie Lamby in the past have

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<v Speaker 1>said that if they don't get their way on certain

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of legislation, they won't support any of the legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course she wouldn't be doing that in the

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to an election, would she. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Lamby perfect example of one of these people who

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<v Speaker 1>just knows, regardless of what you've said in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>said in the future, whatever the evidence is or isn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you scream at a camera, they'll run it on

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<v Speaker 1>the telling.

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<v Speaker 3>How about just for once today, just for once, put

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<v Speaker 3>the future of our kids first.

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<v Speaker 1>Just once, When it comes to the rental situation that

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<v Speaker 1>exists in Australia right now, we know it's tough. There

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<v Speaker 1>are fewer properties than ever before, and the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time that a rental property is on the market for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be able to go and inspect and apply for.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's more people than ever before that are

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<v Speaker 1>applying for them. Where you can start to see some

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<v Speaker 1>data here that tells you just how quickly things come

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<v Speaker 1>and go from the rental market. Houses in a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>suburbs are securing tenants more than forty percent faster than

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<v Speaker 1>July last year, according to data that appeared again in

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian newspaper today. Now let's have a look here

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<v Speaker 1>at the particular example of suburbs in one of the

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<v Speaker 1>major capital cities on the East Coast, hazel Brook. Thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>days from listing to being withdrawn Brighton the San's Manly

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<v Speaker 1>Vail and other places in and around Sydney, it's less

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty days. It's even tighter in places like Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>where you can see they're multiple suburbs. Again, basically two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks from listening till it's taken off, So you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be whipped. You have to be there like on

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<v Speaker 1>day one, and even then it doesn't really matter the

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<v Speaker 1>way that it used to wear if you're first in,

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<v Speaker 1>best dressed when it comes to an application. The same

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<v Speaker 1>two with Brisbane. If we can guys that reality here

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<v Speaker 1>is that fewer properties than ever before are going faster

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before, with more people looking at them that

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<v Speaker 1>ever before. But look over here, look over here. The

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<v Speaker 1>real problem is gambling at its now to the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we all assume that there are certain hoops one

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<v Speaker 1>must jump through in order to eventually become the president

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States. But as we know, convention is

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<v Speaker 1>just convention. Tradition is just tradition, and things can be

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<v Speaker 1>just pushed completely aside if you are willing to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in order to win. Perfect example, of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with the Democrats, who someone very cleverly decided

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<v Speaker 1>to expose that the Joe Biden, who they all said

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing, wasn't that amazing? But then it was all

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<v Speaker 1>happening before he'd formerly become the candidate and was locked in,

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<v Speaker 1>so of course they had the chance to flush him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't go on a process of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>replace him. They just went to the number two on

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<v Speaker 1>the ticket, who locked it all up with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of phone calls within less than a day. And now

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that we know she believes, she

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<v Speaker 1>now pretends she doesn't believe. But because she doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>any interviews, nobody is asking her. So, hang on, which

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<v Speaker 1>one have you changed and why why did you believe

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<v Speaker 1>this then and you believe that now. But because of

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<v Speaker 1>course the media now have what they want, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a change of the race, A circuit breaker to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>anything but a Trump victory. Now, amazingly, the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, who yes, has only been the

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<v Speaker 1>candidate for a couple of weeks, but still you would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine has the talent and the capacity to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>for an interview to explain why I believe this. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that, and not just on I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different issues. But instead, this is what she

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<v Speaker 1>said to reporters in part of a seventy something second

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<v Speaker 1>exchange that of course they then turn around and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she takes questions all the time. This is when she

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<v Speaker 1>is planning to have an interview where anyone, even a

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<v Speaker 1>soft interviewer, will have to ask her, Madam Vice President,

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<v Speaker 1>you believe this, You believe that? Why? And what changed

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? When is she planning to have one? Oh? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>Questions about when you're going to stick down for your

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<v Speaker 6>first interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Being about our.

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<v Speaker 7>Need as parts of my team, I want us to

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<v Speaker 7>forget an interview scatup by the.

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<v Speaker 5>End of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, can we play it again. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make absolutely sure that we all heard with our

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<v Speaker 1>own ears and we saw with our own eyes the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the month.

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<v Speaker 6>There's been a lot of questions about when you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to stick down for your first interviews, being about our need.

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<v Speaker 7>As parts of my team, I want us to forget

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<v Speaker 7>an interview scatus by the.

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<v Speaker 5>End of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. But this is fascical. It's nonsense. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you are simultaneously qualified to be president because you were

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<v Speaker 1>vice president but you don't own any of the decisions

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>of the administration that you were co pilot for is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that you could be president of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States but I don't have time to sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>account for why all the things I believed in I

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<v Speaker 1>now don't believe in is rubbish. The media, we know,

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<v Speaker 1>are always cheerleaders of the left, and when they have

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a candidate like Harris, they turn into the pr machine

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<v Speaker 1>of that candidate. But the idea that people in the

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<v Speaker 1>business of asking questions go on television like this on

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<v Speaker 1>MSNBC to say, ah, questions, why do we need questions?

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<v Speaker 1>There shouldn't be questions. She's just the opposite of everything

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>she's been for the past four years, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it, you're racist.

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<v Speaker 5>It would have struck me since Donald Trump's press conference

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<v Speaker 5>is sort of the sort of high brow nature of

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 5>the press coming at Kamala Harris saying, well, she, in

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<v Speaker 5>my view, whining that she hasn't she doesn't talk to us,

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 5>she hasn't done a sit down with us, she hasn't

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 5>done interviews with us. Right now, is there a real

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<v Speaker 5>need for her to sort of, you know, get the

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<v Speaker 5>impromater of the press on her campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Firstly, total garbage, the impromater of the press. No, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how it works. That bloke, by the way, ran

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party in the incredibly unsuccessful period of time

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty and eight to twenty ten. And then because

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he bags everything the Republican Party is, he gets a

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<v Speaker 1>home on left wing television. But they get to say

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<v Speaker 1>we're fair and balanced because here is a former person

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<v Speaker 1>who's currently going to dump buckets on their former side.

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<v Speaker 1>Always so fair and balanced. The impromater of the press.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, there's three hundred million people in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and fifty million the I believe, are

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<v Speaker 1>registered to vote, and you see, any candidate will never

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to meet all of those people. So

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what often ends up happening is that you sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and do an interview with somebody, and yes, millions of

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>people will watch that interview, and we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get a greater insight into the candidate. But no interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>no ad libbing, changing of positions one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>and stealing the other bloke's policies in order to win

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<v Speaker 1>a state is not the stuff that a leading democracy

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<v Speaker 1>is involved with. And I don't say that because the

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<v Speaker 1>polls have changed and Harris now is the front runner.

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<v Speaker 1>I say it because if it was the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine what the reaction would have been on

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<v Speaker 1>panels like that on MSNBC. Oh, Donald Trump hasn't taken

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<v Speaker 1>a question since becoming the Republican nominee. What is he hiding?

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<v Speaker 1>What is he hiding? Well, of course we know he's

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<v Speaker 1>not hiding. He's in plain sight, so much so that

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody took a shot at him. And after it, he

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>holds press conferences, he does interviews. Literally, in the next

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours, will have a sit down conversation which

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<v Speaker 1>will be watched by millions of people with Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be plenty of other opportunities for people to

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<v Speaker 1>ask him questions and the inevitability of more press conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll either dig deeper holes from himself or he'll

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>find a way out. But the idea that she's awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>just believe it is where the biggest democracy or one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most significant democracies in the world has got

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<v Speaker 1>to gives you an idea about why so many people

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>don't quite trust the narratives that are presented to them.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't present and if you don't agree

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>with those narratives, they find ways to shut you down.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see the forest for the trees here each

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and every night, no matter whether it's our politics, their politics,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>or any issue, every time more in a secure on

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>pormary life. Thank you so much for watching in the

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<v Speaker 1>man Cave right now. None of them lovely, Sam Crosby

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>equally delightful, but just soaking up the lack of sun.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>In Canbell right now is of course none other than

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Matt Canavan, Senator, looking so happy there, just tie and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't want to say that's more comfortable

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>up here in the man Cave, mate, but it is

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable. So let's get straight to though. The federal

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>government and starting to put in place what we've talked about.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>This was announced literally the day before the election, so

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<v Speaker 1>they could say they had a mandate for it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is new laws, the bigger environmental protection agency, the Nature

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Positive program they've been trying to push for a while. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the latest on this? How close does it get?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your sense of it.

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<v Speaker 8>While the rumor is going on around here that the

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 8>government will not pursue this before the election, they have

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<v Speaker 8>got the laws in parliament right now. It doesn't do

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<v Speaker 8>everything we feed but does set up this sort of

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<v Speaker 8>useless new cop on the beat who will be unaccountable

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<v Speaker 8>to elected officials and most likely just delay environmental approvals Further,

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<v Speaker 8>that's almost certainly what the Greens wanted when they insisted

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<v Speaker 8>on this. So it doesn't look good. I think I

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<v Speaker 8>personally believe the reason the government is not pursuing it

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<v Speaker 8>right now is because they're holding it back as negotiating

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<v Speaker 8>coin for a hung parliament after the election. We can

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<v Speaker 8>see that is on the books now, and it's things

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<v Speaker 8>like this that all Australia should be feared of. That

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<v Speaker 8>if you vote for a Labor party at this election,

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<v Speaker 8>you'll have no idea what will come out the other side,

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<v Speaker 8>It'll be a complete and utter surprise. It's a bit

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<v Speaker 8>like Forrest camp box of chocolates. You never know what

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 8>you're going to get and you might end up with

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<v Speaker 8>a nut like Adam Bant who is put in then

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<v Speaker 8>charge of our environmental laws and stop sorts of jobs

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<v Speaker 8>being created all around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, right, the government sells this as well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a logical progression in trying to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>build the framework around better environment things to do with

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>climate change here. But Sam, clearly, if it's the Green

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<v Speaker 1>so we are going to end up in a position

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<v Speaker 1>where you can't pass anything through this in without them.

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<v Speaker 1>And if, potentially, if the Pols are correct, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pass a bill in the Lower House

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>without them, then it's a much wild aversion of this

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy that they will at the very least be able

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the dials up on.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I'm not nearly close enough to the scuttle button

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 6>the gossip that Matt's talking about as to whether or

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 6>not this is going to be a bargaining chip in

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 6>a hung parliament. He may well be right, he may

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<v Speaker 6>well be I don't know the way forward on this

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<v Speaker 6>I think, in a constructive and useful fashion is for

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<v Speaker 6>the liberals and the Nationals now to sit down and

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<v Speaker 6>come up with a piece of legislation that they can

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<v Speaker 6>live with. I mean, I agree, I don't want any

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<v Speaker 6>piece of environmental regulation needlessly restricting development approvals or restricting jobs.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 6>I dare say the government doesn't want that either. So

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<v Speaker 6>the best way to assure that we all live and

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<v Speaker 6>I genuinely think the best form of any kind of

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<v Speaker 6>regulatory oversight body is a bipartisan one. You know, business

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 6>knows that it's going to be there for the next

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 6>twenty years because both parties signed up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Matt, give us an idea, Right, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about when it comes to an environmental protection agency

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>or nature positive? And I know we could fill the

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of the hour, but we can't do it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we can't do it, Sam suggests, because we don't

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 8>support putting bureaucrats empowering unelected bureaucrats with a life or

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 8>death decision over job creating projects in this country. I

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 8>believe in democracy. I believe in accountability, ministerial accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>To the people.

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<v Speaker 8>We oppose that we fundamentally mentally oppose that. And the

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<v Speaker 8>other problem with this bill is it doesn't include there

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 8>reforms that were suggested in the Samuel Review of our

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 8>environmental laws that would actually reduce red tape and free

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 8>up job creating projects. The governments ignored that and its

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 8>just pursuing this green dream of creating this empowered bureaucracy

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 8>to stop projects. So we can't really negotiate on this

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 8>because we just fundamentally don't support that. I don't support

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<v Speaker 8>Canberra based officials here being in charged of what happens

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<v Speaker 8>all around our country for very important projects of the lifeblood,

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<v Speaker 8>especially of country towns in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also something sam that I'm just thinking philosophically here right,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the government trying to create a new bureaucracy to turn

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>around and say not our fault, their decision right, not

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the first to do it, but this is what they

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>plan to do. This is also the structure in and

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<v Speaker 1>around the censoring of the Internet, which is of course

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<v Speaker 1>if the government tried to sense it isn't that would

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be disgraceful. But we just gave more powers to somebody

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 1>else to decide what misinformation is and to go off

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and create finds off the back of it. Philosophically, where

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>are you on this idea? Because the only check we

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have on the bureaucracy is minister all oversight is a

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Parliament where question time can come back and forth. Is

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the Senate estimates. But the reality is that most of

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>these organizations just say computer says no, we all move on.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Not a democracy, sure, But let me give you another one.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>The RBA.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the RBA is the second most trusted institution

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 6>in Australia behind the High Court. You know, it's run

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 6>by experts, largely with a dispassionate view and they just

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 6>go out there and they try to achieve inflation between

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 6>the two to three percent.

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>The RBA is never a broker in a dispute between

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>two people, or walks onto your property and say you

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>can or can't know. No, that's fair enough.

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 6>I would say it has a much bigger impact on

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 6>a lot of every single Australian.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a technical decision. I mean it's a technical decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam.

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<v Speaker 8>The problem with the environmental law space is that it

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 8>is a balancing of values and priorities. There's no particular science.

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 8>The RBA has a set tard. They work best. I

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 8>believe they've gotten the trouble in the last few years

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 8>when they've tried to expand their mandate. Haven't exactly done

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 8>very well recent recent times the RBA. But I grant

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 8>you that over there, most of their history they have

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 8>been good. They've been good when they focused on one

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 8>technical aspect, was just hitting an inflation target, which they

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 8>can do by controlling one tool. That is sure, sure

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 8>nothing equivalent to that as in assessing the complex details

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 8>of the creation of jobs, the destruction of local environments

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.919
<v Speaker 8>that have to be balanced up and values based way.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 8>Those types of decisions should be held by elected people

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 8>who are accountable to the public. And I think we'll

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 8>go and get into ourselves in a lot of trouble

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 8>if we continue sure to lean back and then COVID

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 8>is a good example disaster, absolute disaster, because all the

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 8>experts did was simply apply the public health. Experts applied

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 8>one set of values which was about public health, and

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 8>forgot about a whole lot of other things have to

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<v Speaker 8>be balanced at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the premius work in charge. It was the public

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>servant that was advising that all the resk I.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, we want to have a philosophical conversation here, right,

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 6>But let's remember two things. One, the EPA was an

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 6>idea of Richard Nixon right in the nineteen seventies. This

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 6>is hardly a left wing conspiracy out there. But two,

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 6>the sorts of things that the federal EPA is going

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 6>to look at is dumping at sea that is currently

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<v Speaker 6>not overseen by any state EPA, waste imports and exports, ozone.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Pollution.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know, I agree, you can have all sorts

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 6>of intellectual debates about it.

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 8>Is from the nineteen seventies, then sure, it's still a thing.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 6>We're back, We're back in the technicals can still be

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 6>pumped out. But this is the point, right, we can

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 6>thought we've infixed that with housepro We can have interesting

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 6>philosophical conversations about it. But at the end of the day,

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 6>there are still a bunch of basic, boring regulatory things

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 6>that need to be policed. Sure, but the laws by

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 6>which should absolutely be subject to democratic oversight and democratic

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 6>governmental mandates.

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<v Speaker 8>But my concern is, yeah, most I have a party

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 8>put this out before the night before the election, and

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 8>that would have allowed.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But also and the negotiations around all of this, NBA

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>locked or and the rest of it and then just

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 1>presented at the end. Process matters. This is one of

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>those processes that can either be matches up to the

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>spin or as soon as sunlight gets it, it gets

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the way that Matt talks about it. Let's talk about

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other things. I feel like we're having

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the hard headed chat tonight, which is nice. It's like

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a three am chat without the booze. Fair enough, walking

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.399
<v Speaker 1>to my life. Now, are the CFMU and the Green

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to start to team up? Now? We know

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that Labor of course is going to do its best

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to pretend they have nothing to do with despite the

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>fake National Executive and all the rest of it and

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>all the obvious ties. But if there's CFMU money and

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 1>c FMU volunteers that may will be up for grabs

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and Labor Party doesn't want to touch it and they

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>want to go further left, there's only one place to

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>go and that's the Green. What would I say to

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you if the CFMEU machine started to get attached to

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the Green?

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<v Speaker 6>The Greens are the great opportunists of the Australian politic hall.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's a big change.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 6>Look it is, and it isn't. So we're not talking

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 6>about the whole c FMU. We're talking about the CFMU construction, right,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 6>So it's quite a small sliver, and important sliver, but

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 6>quite a small sliver of the whole thing, the whole Union.

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 6>And I've got to say, look at what the Union

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<v Speaker 6>has been accused of. Are these the bedfellows that the

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 6>Greens really want?

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree, but I don't understand how mad this government

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>wants a gold staff while we're cleaning up the CFMU.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>When there was a standing Royal commission into the CFMEU

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>through the Building and Construction Commission, but this government pulled

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>it down, got rid of it at the behest of

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the CFMMEU. But now they're going to give them a haircut.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I should be deregistered if the government serious just

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 8>deregister this organization. It's broken ter many laws over too

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 8>much a time. But the fact that won't do that

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 8>concerns me that in fact this will be a sham

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 8>administration process where the government wants to appoint the administrator

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 8>and they are conflicted too. Of course, they've taken millions

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 8>of dollars in donations and the only way I think

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 8>the Labor party can regain trust on this issue is

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 8>to return those donations before it makes the decisions about

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 8>regulating this criminal organization.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got ninety seconds again a conversation that could go

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour, the Muslim vote conversation. Do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with my now about the lower House stuff that unless

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they get preferences from the Libs or give preferences to

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the Libs, no Labor in PA's moving.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I agree with that, and I agree as

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 6>soon as I saw Glen Drury was involved as in

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 6>the Fatoma payment office. And you know there is a

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 6>Senate play at stake here. I don't know where that

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 6>play ends. I don't know who's going to get elected.

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 6>I imagine that whomever it is is going to be a

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 6>client of Glen Drury. He's a master preference whisperer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and asserved that his role as a significant the

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>staff at a cross benches in the past. So I

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>get what the pitch is. In fact, there was video

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of the pitch that the Herald Sun put out well

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>during the lead up to the last state election. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to go, so I'll get you first cap off

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the rank next time. Matt. Thank you to appreciate, Senator,

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Future Senator. We will talk again very very soon, right,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>quick break back with more. The Great Warren Brown's going

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to join us now. Of course it's the great cartoonist

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Daily Telegraphed. But he liked me, loves the Bush.

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Unlikely he lives in it. Will cross to it in

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a moment to explain what he's doing for the Bush next.

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Each and every year, the Bush Summit comes around in

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Sky News is front and center being able to help host,

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>along with the News Court publications around the country, real

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>conversations with real important decision makers from government, private industry,

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>most importantly locals about regional Australia and its future. Well,

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>coming up very soon is yet another round of the

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Bush Summit. I'm looking forward to being part of one

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in Western Australia. The Great Warren Brown will be part

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of well, the entire nation, and I'll explain why next.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.720
<v Speaker 3>The Bush Somebody is back and once again is going national,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>ready to deliver outcomes for communities in regional and remote Australia.

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 3>So join me, Warren Brown, as I drive this incredible

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 3>ram big Horn all the way across this vast and

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:14.879
<v Speaker 3>spectacular country.

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So are the.

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Keys like it's magnificent Vista Rental Golf Golf. They're bony

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 3>with eight legs and they have giant pincers.

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm the first Warren, and maybe I'll add my last

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>year tea.

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 5>You never.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 7>Could be my last two, or don't say that A

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 7>starf star, This is fantastic.

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 3>But I'm a good life guard.

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 7>You haven't lost a kid yet.

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I've got my rossy boots on and my dryser boat,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 3>so at least I look like Karma.

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 6>How did I say?

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<v Speaker 1>Rettel the Bullshowbody's coming up? Warren Brown Joins is on

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>the telly Now you see his cartoons in the paper

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Engine every day. Great man, So good to see you.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So hang on. Just you got paid to get around

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>in that beautiful car, all at one in banks, beautiful

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 1>big car, big loud, petrol petrol petrol car, kicking around

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in the dirt and hanging out with normal people. I'm

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>always jealous of you, but I'm even more right now, Paul.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a dream.

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 3>The Ram fifteen hundred big Horn. What a great name,

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 3>great big, What an amazing machine. It is about a

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 3>five point seven lead of V eight, a sort of

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a hybrid as well, strangely and it's it was

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 3>the most glorious car to explore Australia with it. If

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I had the time, when I had the money, I

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 3>would buy one of those hard to go and drive Australia.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Tremendous stuff and wonderful for the Bush Summer.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>But also I mean you've literally had the experience of

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>driving you know, here to London and around the country

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>many times. But to have the focus in on what

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>people want out of regional Australia, what they demand out

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>of government, what they need out of companies, what sorts

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of themes came to you about just the relentless things

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that matter from Queensland to Wa.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, Paul, as you know, I mean people

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 3>in rural Australia, they're doing it tough. They really aren't tough.

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 3>And as we know, I mean on the eastern seaboard,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Great Dividing Range is sometimes referred to

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 3>as the Iron Curtains, So you know, if you're on

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the western side of the Great Dividing Range, people feel

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 3>like they've been forgotten. And one of the great things

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 3>about the Bush Summit is that we go out there,

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 3>we don't muck around on in sort of tourist spots,

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. We were going out to Hable and Brokenhill

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 3>and all sorts of plays, you know, all sorts of

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Emeralds and all sorts of places in in South Australia,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 3>in Victoria, in New South Wales and in Queensland to

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 3>go and talk to real people and to find out

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 3>what matters to them. And certainly, well, no, without doubt

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>things are biting hard as we know, foss of living,

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 3>so many other things. But it's great and I think

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 3>that so many people in rural Australia and country Australia

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 3>are so receptive for someone coming to talk to them

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 3>about real mats.

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>We're not.

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 3>We're not just some sort of travel show.

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>We're not.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 3>We're about about real things. And it's that's why the

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Bush Summit has gone from something that kicked off in

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 3>New South Wales to a national program that is now

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 3>attracting so many corporate sponsors because they want to get

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 3>involved in helping Australia.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, chief amongst them being Hancock Prospecting. You can

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>see that there and I'm looking forward to, you know, frankly,

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the honor of being able to introduce missus Reinhart at

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>an eventing Western Australia. But also again and I've got

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>just a minute here, right, But I was trying to

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of pick the different locations. I'm pretty sure that

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you went to Charters Towers or very close to it,

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>which I love, an hour in from Townsville. It's magnificent.

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>The bloke who runs the drive in watches us each

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and every night, so shout out to him and everyone else.

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's those places that, as you say, that aren't

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the obvious postcard or tourist places that give you the

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<v Speaker 1>real temperature, doren't they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you quite write a shout out to Charters Towers.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we met some great people people who run

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas Longhorn, I've never seen them for the most

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<v Speaker 3>amazing things they liked, you know, for the horns and

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<v Speaker 3>the sort of thing you'd see on a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>JR Cadillac. You know, they are the most amazing creatures.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course we met some other people, wonderful people

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<v Speaker 3>who have built a resort out of an old psychiatric hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds weird in Charters Towers, and you find people

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<v Speaker 3>who've got this sort of the drive and the determination

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<v Speaker 3>to go and go. You know what, only give this

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<v Speaker 3>a go. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but

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<v Speaker 3>they make it succeed. And that's the great thing about us.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the bush. I reckon, bloody oath. I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to joining you on this journey via the videos

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<v Speaker 1>and then in person as soon as we can mate.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Shout out by

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<v Speaker 1>the way to Steve specifically who runs the drive in

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<v Speaker 1>at Charterstowers. Love you, brother. Quick break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with the Late Debates CED tomorrow.