1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to an old three sixty other league from every 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: angle joining me the great good and tallow bro Let's 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: bring the Journal Australian Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster and 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: let's get straight to the inns or take a look 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: at the ins and outs around eleven thanks to sports Bet, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Zach Lomax returns from that foot injury. Good timing for 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: New South Wales as well. Collins returns after four games 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: out for the Roosters. Fisher Harris's back for the Warriors. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: How good are they going at the moment? 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Clifford dropped for the Cowboys, which we may talk about 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: a little bit later on perdue to five eight grant 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: name on the extended bench. Good timing for the Storm 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: end of course for Queensland and Ezra Man to make 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: his season debut with Hunt out with that injury last week. 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Gordy Ezra Mam is back for the Broncos. I think 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: common sense. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: He played great last week, he served his suspension and 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: I think they need him. I think that a couple 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: of the outside backs have been locked up a little 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: bit and hopefully he can lock it up and get 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: that relationship going with Adam Reynolds. 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: So Broncos need to get back on the winning. 23 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, well he didn't serve the suspension he should 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: have served. You know, he should have got a lot, 25 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: He should have got a lot longer, and I think 26 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 4: most people when you put common sense into a degree. However, 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: he is back and he will be a bonus for 28 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 4: the Broncos that they probably shouldn't be getting at the moment. 29 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree. 30 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 5: I don't think he should have been playing it all 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: this year, but you know the whole year, I do. 32 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 6: I don't think he should have got it. 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: I don't. 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 5: I think the NRL really weak about their decision as remmbment. 35 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Isn't stronger than what the court gave him. 36 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 6: I think that's the cop out. That doesn't make it right. 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: That's that's what the NRL says was the reason why 38 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: they didn't. But that's why we got a court system, 39 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: of course, of course, but it's the NFL's game. Yeah, 40 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: you know, it's they get they get to decide what 41 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 5: what the punishment is. So but that look, that's all 42 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: by the bid to be honest, like, you know, that's 43 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 5: nothing personal against Ara, that's just what I personally feel. 44 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: But He's served his time he could. He made a 45 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: great comeback in Queensland Cup last week and he deserves 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 5: his place and that type in that side. He's come 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: back at a perfect time for Michael McGuire because they 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: need him. 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: They he was electric last week in Queensland Cup. So 50 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: it's good timing for them. But you're not alone with 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the opinion that you do have. I've ezra men, but 52 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: he is back. But did Madge underestimate how tough of 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: a task it would be going up to the Broncos 54 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: and turning them around from where they were last. 55 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: Year into a successful team this year. 56 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 6: I'm not too sure about that. 57 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Look, everyone knows that the Broncos coaching position is probably 58 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: the toughest in the game because it's the biggest club, 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: it's got the most members, it's. 60 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 6: One team town. 61 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: Or it wasn't before the Dolphins arrived, and a lot 62 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: of coaches have struggled up there aside from Bennett. 63 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 6: It's hard work. 64 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: I questioned Madge's appointment to start with, given more so 65 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: what had unfolded at the Rabbit O's and what had 66 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: unfolded at the Tigers. I thought it would eventually end 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: in tears I wasn't so sure there'd be trouble ten 68 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: rounds into the season. 69 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 6: That's the biggest concern. 70 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: Look, I saw what I spoke to us today about 71 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: his you know, the blues that he's having with Michael McGuire. 72 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 6: And it's good, good theatrics. 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 5: But you know there is lenny of noise out of 74 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 5: Brisbane about players being unhappy there. You know that they 75 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 5: just and to be honest, I think that's only natural 76 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 5: because anyone's surprised that Michael McGuire is a little bit 77 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 5: too intense for Brisbane players early on, Like he's got 78 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: a reputation that precedes him. 79 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 6: When Michael McGuire. 80 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 5: Got the job, I think people forget he remember he 81 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: said that the New South Wales job and the Keyweeds 82 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: job had mellowed him and that he changed as a coach. 83 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 6: Well not necessarily, you know. 84 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: And but I suppose that the proof will be in 85 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: the putting on whether like I think, you know, we're 86 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: ten rounds in, there's seventh. 87 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 6: On the ladder. 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: You know they've got they've gone on a big boat 89 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: cruise that didn't seem to have the intended results. 90 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 6: Last five, that's right, I get. 91 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: That, cause but let's just see, let's just judge him. 92 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: Let's just judge him on the end when we get 93 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: to the end of the season. 94 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: The players didn't like Kevy and then he was maybe 95 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: a softer, more of an attacking touch, and there's Match 96 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: that's coming the other So who do they like them? 97 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: If players wins last year apparently because that's why they 98 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: did the review, and they're wining this year, well who 99 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: do they want? 100 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 6: I agree, I'm with you made responsibility. 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: If you look at the coaches, they are polar opposites 102 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Kevy and Match. And like you said, Gordy, they were 103 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: complaining about Kevy last year. Now they're complaining about Match. 104 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: They were always going to complain about Match because Madge 105 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: was going in there to do a job, training them 106 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: hard and probably training hadn't seen for a long period 107 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: of time, and the way that he approaches players, and 108 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: you can see that in the difference to the two personalities. 109 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: They're always going to be a little bit shell shocked, but. 110 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 6: It's going to be the system. 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: It was going to be a shock to the system, 112 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: but Madge, we were probably hoped by now they would 113 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: have bought in and got used to it and understood 114 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: why he's doing what he's doing. 115 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem to be the case any way. 116 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 6: You look at it, Braith. 117 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: He has to read the room because it's like you 118 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: just said, Webbee, he had this problem at South Sydney, 119 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 4: like when he won the comp first up in the 120 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: world two two thousand and fourteen. I remember Rich, I say, 121 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: he's got a job for life. They sacked him within 122 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: three years, you know, And then and then he went 123 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: to the Tigers, and the same drama is unfolded. And 124 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: the fact that we are ten rounds into the season. 125 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: He has to read the room. If it is a problem, 126 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: he's got to realize it's a problem and he has 127 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: to make some changes because at the end of the day, you. 128 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 6: Can put it back. 129 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: You can put them back on the players, though, but 130 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: it's the coach's responsibility to get the best out of 131 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: the players. 132 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: So they signed him to be Michael maguire. You can't 133 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: be two different. 134 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: You know. 135 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 4: Who's got a real problem here if this just doesn't 136 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: work out, is the management of that club, because that 137 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: hasn't changed. They're four coaches in eight seasons, four coaches 138 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: in eight seasons. They've gone through. If this doesn't work out. 139 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: I don't think we've been too premature. 140 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: I really do. 141 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: Like as I said, I know they've lost four or five, 142 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: but it's it's early days. We're ten ten games into 143 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 5: his first season in the job. It's to be saying 144 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: they're not working with Michael maguire at the Bronco. People 145 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: want to lead to that conclusion, but it is too early. 146 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: But history shows that when they go through origin and 147 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: there's no pain, has no Paddy Carrigan, So that's when 148 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: they do struggle. 149 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: That's where they have back into the the blump. The 150 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: players will shift, they'll buy in, they'll turn again. 151 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 5: To be honest, it's a it's going to be a 152 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: test of the strength of management, really, but they're going to. 153 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: It deserves to the end of the year, which I 154 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: agree with you with. But do you think he has 155 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: the capability to turn them around and the players shifting 156 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: their opinion and apparent opinion. 157 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: Well, if they don't, then are they going to get 158 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: rid of another coach or are they going to start 159 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: moving players on? 160 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 6: Going to start moving players on? 161 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: Because I reckon that's what's probably that's got to be 162 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 5: the next thing from his press conference. 163 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: You need to look in the mirror. Maybe all of 164 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: them do, sure, but a. 165 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Good example is, and we spoke about last night with 166 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: the boat, right, Madge comes in with his hard nose 167 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and parent baseball bats or whatever. 168 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: And he the inflator. He's tough on the players. 169 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: Then he calls a boat trip, which is no alcohol, 170 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: no music. He gets a motivational speaker in one of 171 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: the best sailors I think was Tom Slingsby, who's part 172 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: of the sailing GP and gold medal winner. So he 173 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: gets him on a boat, gets him to talk to 174 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: his players. It's a nice relaxing afternoon out and then 175 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I hear the players complained about their preparation for the game. 176 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: Well, what do you want. He's trying to shift. 177 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: He's trying to shift, he's trying to find ways, he's 178 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: trying to mix it up, and he's getting criticized for both. 179 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: But also the players aren't responding. So look, they do 180 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: need to look in the man. 181 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: I don't believe there's any chance in the world, and 182 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: there shouldn't be that magics jobs under pressure. What I'm 183 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: saying is is there's a massive concern because they've gone 184 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: through the preseason and we're at this point of the 185 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: season where it's only going to get harder from here, 186 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: and already this information is leaking out of the club. 187 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: He has a problem that he has to deal with, 188 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: and he has to if yes, the players have to change, 189 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: but perhaps he does too. It's no use trying to 190 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: have a blow up with Buzz and blame Buzz for 191 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: the reality of the questions that were asked to me. 192 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: That he gets bonus points for giving it to both. 193 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I'd just love to hear that conversation, but I means 194 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: the pen is. I've heard that they weren't happy because 195 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: they didn't have the Captain's run barbecue. 196 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything about it? Like that's the type 197 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: of stuff where and we heard it all year. 198 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Last year, Kenvy was going through it and we'd hear 199 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: every week, you know, they're complaining about this, they're complaining 200 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: about that, and here we are, you know. 201 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: I guess, I guess going back to like we heard 202 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: all the complaints about Kevy last year. We expected it 203 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: to change, and the fact that it hasn't changed is 204 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: again I'll just go back. It's the concern for the 205 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 4: club because I'm not certain this was ever going to 206 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: be the right appointment long term, but you did expect 207 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: it to be a quick fix. And if this season 208 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: is not an improvement on what happened last year, well. 209 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: Then yeah, can any can any coach be successful in 210 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Brisbane apart from Wayne? Like you said at the start, 211 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: I haven't had success with anyone since. 212 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: Wayne has always been in the opinion that the only 213 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 5: person who so everybody the management that you're talking about 214 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 5: Wayne Wood. 215 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean genuinely though, Like can coaches go there and 216 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: be successful? 217 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: Ye? 218 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely the right coach I haven't been, so I think 219 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: they underestimate the job sometimes. Like I'll go back to 220 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: the fact that there is a lot of when when 221 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: Bennett was up there and then when he went to 222 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: Souse he said publicly and he said it to me 223 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: a thousand times, it's it's different coaching South Sydney than 224 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: it is to Brisbane because it is such a big. 225 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 6: Club and there's so much focus. 226 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: There's so much focus and you have to be able 227 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: to handle that. 228 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: What's different about playing in Brisbane? What's the difference. Well, 229 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: it was a one team town. 230 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: Well that's changed now and there's Redcliffe just down the road, 231 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: and there's Benner is up everywhere, and they're all fighting 232 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: for the territory now. So when I played, it was 233 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: the it was the best side. There was ten of 234 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: origin players and they were winning competitions. But why is 235 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: that's not this That's not this side. This is side 236 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: that struggled. They got wooden spoons about five years ago. 237 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: The whole field was struggled. And maybe and I don't think, 238 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: and I said last year, I was stuck off for 239 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: the players. They weren't walking around like Hollywood. The fans 240 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: were turning up and love them. They they're not stuck up. 241 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: They do a lot of things right, but there's something 242 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: not quite binding there. And I think it comes down 243 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: to leadership. I think payn Ass is a wonderful player. 244 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: I think Carrigan's a wonderful player. They bought Adam Reynolds 245 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: for guidance and leadership, and they need a hard nosed leader, 246 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: they like they need a Liam Martin. They need someone 247 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: on the edge, someone that's really hard, hard edge. 248 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: I learn a couple of examples from the weekend. 249 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: I just looked at that there and Dean Mariner a 250 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: couple of times runs over the sideline and ends had 251 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: stating you just don't go neither of course, or is 252 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: it now you don't gave me. 253 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: This sidelines but it's ten. Yeah, you just don't go 254 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: need them here. It is here. And when he made 255 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: the break, this is one. 256 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: And when he made the break, he took Latrell on 257 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: the outside and that was playing who I believe in it. 258 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: They do this often. They try and come up with 259 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the big play. And what what McGuire's trying to instill 260 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: in them is to to earn the respect, to earn 261 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the right to grind out wins, to to build pressure, 262 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: and that they just don't seem to do it. And 263 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: this is their problem. They want to come up with 264 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the big plane. You talk about egos and they don't 265 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: you know all that. There's an element of that, there's 266 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: an element of not getting into the get into the trade. 267 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: You don't need to win every game with spectacular passes 268 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: and kicks from Reynolds. 269 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: And you know they're. 270 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Outside backs, you know, stepping three or four players and 271 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: there's there's a thousand ways of skinner cap mate like 272 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're just trying to. 273 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Feel the best. They used to beat them up. 274 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: And do you think Brisbane go through the middle of 275 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: the back, Do you think that they actually beat them up. 276 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: I think pain that's is unbelievable. But it's not that 277 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,359 Speaker 3: brute forces ability all that. But they do the ability 278 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: the same birds where they just paint As is one 279 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: of the greatest front rollers they will to see run 280 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: on the field, But there's not that Jaredria Hargreave, sam 281 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Burg just stole about himself. Even Tino to a certain extent, 282 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: has a bit more aggression. And you've got Paddy Carrigan, 283 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: one of the best carrying to do that. But like, 284 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 3: then why is he in the front row when he's 285 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: a lock. I don't think he's big enough. So they 286 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: need another hard edge front rower and they need a 287 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: tough background. 288 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Make excuses for their roster because there's there's multiple clubs 289 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: out there that would kill to have the strength of 290 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: the Bronco's roster, like their superstars across the lie. 291 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: That's not the reason they're losing. 292 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 5: They've got two million dollars half backs, so well, that's 293 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: the thing when you talk about leadership like you would 294 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 5: have thought, but you've got two thirty four year old 295 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: halves with that amount of experience, there's plenty of leadership. 296 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: You can see the frustration on Renow. 297 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I can see it on the weekend, like he's sitting 298 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: back and he's thinking play one or two. 299 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: What are you doing? Guys? 300 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: You can see that the players aren't getting to the 301 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: certain positions on the field for him to then execute. 302 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: When they do, they're brilliant and we've seen that glimpses 303 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: of it, and at times they look like they're a 304 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: top two, three, fourteen, but it's not enough. 305 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: It's not consistent enough. 306 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: And when they're rolling, When they're rolling, they look like 307 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 5: the only team that can be Melbourne at the end. 308 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: Of the year. 309 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: Well, they bashed up the Bulldogs a few weeks ago. 310 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: They play well when everything goes their way against Sous 311 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: on the weekend, they're opposite against the side that didn't 312 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: have Cameron Murray, didn't have Cody Walker, didn't have Jack 313 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: White and Alex Johnson. You can keep going like no 314 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: one gave Sous a chance and the fact that the 315 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 4: Broncos gave up was it a fourteen point lead, tells 316 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: you something's wrong. 317 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: All right, We'll see what happens over the next few weeks, 318 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: but Michael maguire is already under pressure in Brisbane. Four 319 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: wins one draw from the last six games. But Clifford 320 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: has been dropped for the Cowboys. 321 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: Why is that? 322 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: Well when you're first. 323 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 4: When I first heard it today, I was shocked because 324 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: I thought he'd been in pretty good form this year. 325 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: The Cowboys turned the corner. It coincided with his comeback. 326 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: He works well with Dard and he's got that burning 327 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: kick kicking game and it's made a difference. He scores 328 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: good tries, he runs hard, he does everything right. But 329 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: you've got the young Blake in the centers who's a 330 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: potential superstar. He played his juniors in the halves and 331 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: there's probably pressure to give him a going On top 332 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: of that, they've got young Labor coming back who's a 333 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: very very good. 334 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: Center, and I think Pursue's going to be the future, right, 335 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: So I like then I heard the coaches talking about 336 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: that he played all of his played all of his 337 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: junior footy in the halves, and maybe they're a look 338 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: at the state of origin. Tommy did and probably will 339 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: play number four h for Queensland with one And you 340 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: think that Clifford might come back next week. You don't 341 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: know whether he's carrying a linga And I thought it 342 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: was strange dropping a half back when they've like their 343 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: last month of foot he has been their best month 344 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: of footage. 345 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: Who Doue's a special talent, isn't he? 346 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: And if he if he's a half or a natural 347 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: half like they say he is, and they want to 348 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: extend him and maybe that's part of the thinking. 349 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: And also you might have talk a point about origin 350 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: coming up. It also gives you a look at what's happening. 351 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: But it would have to be a concern for young 352 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: Clifford too. He's contract this year and. 353 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: Next and you can flip I'm looking forward to watch 354 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: playing Mars. 355 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Actually, I think he's a really good young player and 356 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: it's got a lot of potential now Bulldogs GM of 357 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Football feel Good has given a confusing answer when quized 358 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: about the future of Toby Sexton. 359 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: Take a look and Toby Sexton have close is a contract. 360 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 7: Toby's on a journey of development. We're working with Toby 361 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 7: and we'll worry about the ROSSA. 362 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good. 363 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: They're saying that Toby Sexton is on a journey of development. 364 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: What does that mean? I'm your half? What does that mean? 365 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: It means that he's saying that he's still developing. Well 366 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: he's on a journey of development, but he's still development. 367 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: When you peel it back, I'm like developing as a player. 368 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: The Blake can play any better, Like he's been that 369 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: good from the last year and a half. 370 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: They're coming first first, they are they are. 371 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: The team at the moment, and on the weekend he 372 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: was exceptional against the Raiders. 373 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Has he signed d C? 374 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know or what's got us all a bit 375 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: spun here and thinking was that comment and also this tweet? 376 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: But last night, this was ten thirty eight. It was 377 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: plenty happening at the moment. Things are bubbling away behind. 378 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: The scenes, interesting few weeks ahead. 379 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: He's an international man and mystery Gus. He just likes 380 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: to play with our minds, the conspiracy. 381 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: What hours well you knowing? 382 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 6: Well not really, well you do. I used to, but 383 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: things went bad. 384 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: Like he's got to do with this, like what he likes. 385 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: He's a different cat, oh, Gus. You know, it's hard 386 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: to read. He likes to keep his cards close to 387 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: his chest. He likes everyone to to to He loves 388 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 5: people talking and theorizing about him. 389 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 6: Donald Trump with him a little bit. 390 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 5: I think he's definitely a Trump supporter, I'd be Yeah. 391 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 6: I don't know what it is. I have no idea, Okay, 392 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 6: I just know. 393 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 5: I just know that when when when Galvin one of 394 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 5: the release from the Tigers, the first club the Tigers 395 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 5: thought he was going to with the Bulldogs and they 396 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: still have that oppinion. 397 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: So do you think that he'll go there? Do you 398 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: think that Gus has something up his sleep? I wouldn't. 399 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised, but if I'm Toby Sexy, it's 400 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: hardly the most Yeah. But what what Gus is saying 401 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: publicly might be to throw off everybody, and what he's 402 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: saying to Toby Sexy privately it is something different altogether. Look, 403 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: I don't do not know unless you're in those four 404 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: walls of Belmore. You're only speculating. And I think that's 405 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: what Gus loves. 406 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: It's a mystery, right, But he said big news coming. 407 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: He's not endorsing sex and he could have easily have 408 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: resigned him one now. I probably should have. I think 409 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: they would have if they wanted him long term. You've 410 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: got d C, who we've heard is signed with the Roosters. 411 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: So if it's not DCE, who's going there or potentially 412 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: going there. It kind of reopens to me the door 413 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: to Galvin. Now, Galvin, there's no confirmation of signing with 414 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: Paramatter or confirming that at all of them. He's going 415 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: through everything with the Tigers at the moment. But I 416 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: just think when this all broke with Galvin, and it's 417 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: just my opinion. When I see this, I see sext 418 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: and not getting resigned. I look at his comments, and 419 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: Gus loves him, it always has. Spokes speaks highly of him, 420 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: probably his biggest support and advocate from the start of 421 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: the year, even when he debuted, when there was a 422 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: chance of him going there, they spoke about him playing 423 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: Locke and they were interested, but they said they weren't 424 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: and I know that, and I said that on the show. 425 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: They said they weren't interested, but I know they were. 426 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, everything's gone quiet. Everyone's just assuming 427 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: he's going to param Matter. But they still haven't signed 428 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: Sexton and Galvin still hasn't committed to anywhere. 429 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: Is there a chance that he lands at the Dogs? 430 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: Every chance, there's every chance. 431 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: Even though Gus has denied their interest, He's done that 432 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: plenty of times before. He doesn't mind telling a fever 433 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 4: if it means getting to the end result of what 434 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 4: he wants. What I guess the question that you'd have 435 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: to ask is that Galvin's not a seven, he's a six, 436 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: or he's a thirteen. Burton's not a seven, he's a 437 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 4: six or is a center? So regardless of that, what's 438 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: the game he plays with Sexton? Or are they looking 439 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: for another seven? 440 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Are we doing the manager's job? Then I let it 441 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: talk until November? Are we? How about Galvin? Yeah, you 442 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: can't tool, you know, like it's I just think there's 443 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: something going on. 444 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 6: It picks the boxes too, doesn't it. 445 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: Like when when the story comes out that he wants 446 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 4: he wants a coach or Serraudo's the coach, isn't he He's. 447 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: Former Westfields and less money. Yeah, he wasn't going for 448 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: the money and he wanted better coaching. 449 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: And his former mentor from Westfield Sports High is at 450 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: the Bulldogs. It's it's a system that's set up to 451 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: succeed at the moment the comp It ticks a lot 452 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: of boxes, whereas Paramatter are sitting dead last on the ladder. 453 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't make sense. And we said that at 454 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: the time. 455 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: If you look at everything that he's management has said, 456 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: Like if you think about it, if he goes to 457 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs and goes for less money and goes to 458 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Serroudo, it's everything that Isaac Moses and his team 459 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: and Galvin said he wanted his parents. 460 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: That's what they were saying from day one. 461 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, that's why Will perplexes the why he would 462 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: go to Paramount at that stage, because he's going to 463 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: get more money and he's not going to a lot 464 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: of question if he's going to be developed, better, coach, 465 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: better than where he is at the Tigers. You can't 466 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: question that. If he goes to the Dogs, he will, 467 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: and if he takes less to go there, then it 468 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: justifies his decision to going back to Gus. Here's what 469 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Gus had to say about Lockey just weeks ago. 470 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 7: We're already on a program, right, We're not thinking about 471 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 7: Lochland Galvin. We've never at any stage been involved in 472 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 7: any discussion regarding Lochland Galvin, and we're not going to 473 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 7: get into a discussion about Lochland Galvin. He's not on 474 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 7: our rate. We've got a different program going at the moment. 475 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 7: That's not to say that, you know, in five or 476 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 7: six years time, when I think he'll be a really 477 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 7: great player, that all clubs won't be interested in him. 478 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 7: At some time there he was. 479 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: You're saying he wasn't interested in him. So I don't know. 480 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 6: But if I'm off on Galvin, I'm going to dogs? 481 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 6: Are you not? You're not going to the Dogs? I 482 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: would think if football and premierships are. 483 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 5: His motivation, and this is no disrespect to what Jason 484 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: Rowles is trying to do a paramatter, but. 485 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: If you want to like. 486 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: The Roosters, don't you go to Penrith. 487 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if they're going to take him, don't. 488 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: You go to Melbourne? 489 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 6: Dogs are sitting on top of the way. 490 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: And the Dogs happened to resigned sext and the other 491 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: clubs the. 492 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 6: Cap and they got money in the cap and the 493 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 6: Rooster's got d C apparently apparently, but it's not announced. 494 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 495 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, Smith joined rabbitat from the Roosters. Roosters telling me 496 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Dom Young, what's the latest with Dom? And Smith's after 497 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the Bunnies. 498 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 5: So Dom Young, it does seem like he's going anywhere. 499 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: I thought. 500 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 5: Trent Robinson held himself pretty well yesterday. I thought what 501 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: he had to say, I think he explained it pretty well. 502 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 5: You don't agree, Crauls. 503 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 6: I just think my question goes back to with Brandon. 504 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 6: First up Brandon. 505 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: When Brandon went. 506 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: To the Roosters, he had the storm, had tabled and offer. 507 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: I think the Gold Coast were chasing him. He visited 508 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: the Dolphins, he went to the Cowboys. It wasn't as 509 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: if he wasn't a wanted man. And what got him 510 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: over the line at the Roosters was the holier than 511 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: the our approach that they took him out to meet 512 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: the board. They took him for a round of golf. 513 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: He had pieces at rob He was whined and dined, 514 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: and Smith came out after that and he said that 515 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: they said, or Robbo said, he'll make him a better man. 516 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: Where I have a problem with it is that the 517 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: Roosters knew what they were signing. They knew they were 518 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: signing one of the game's great rogues, who was a 519 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: little bit of a wild child often on the field. 520 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: And what is it, two and a half years later 521 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: they've shown the door because there was a shining new 522 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 4: toy that came along in the form of Robson for 523 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: the Cowboys, and Robo conceded yesterday that Brandon didn't have 524 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: a great start. 525 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 6: Got better last year. 526 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 4: He's been hampered by injuries, but they didn't give him 527 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: the time to come good on their side of the promise. 528 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: Same with Dom Young. Now Dom Young, the Rissis didn't 529 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: go and give Dom Young, what was it, five hundred 530 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year just to be good guys. They 531 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: did it because he was playing really good football and 532 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: he had so much potential at the nights and he 533 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: came as a try scoring machine. And I understand the 534 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: fact that he's now been overtaken in the run. But again, 535 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 4: the promises were the Premierships on the horizon is what 536 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: he came down for. And again, what is it won? 537 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: Two years later he'll end up pushing his bum back 538 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: up the highway to new Castle with his reputation in tatters. 539 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't believe. Look, all clubs do it. All clubs 540 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: signed players, they don't succeed, they move them on. What 541 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: gets me sometimes is the way that the Roosters publicly 542 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: make out and publicly dine out on the fact that 543 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: they could do it better than everyone else. 544 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: But they have just as many failures as the other clubs. 545 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: I'm with you with the rooster of the recruitment. 546 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: I think it's been shocking in many respects, and I 547 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: agree with Brandon Smith and I wrote it last year, 548 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 5: like the way that they flaunted his signing to everybody, 549 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 5: but particularly because they got one up over Bennett and 550 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: getting him after it had already done the deal with 551 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 5: Bennett at the Dolphins. 552 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 6: And I've talked to Nick about it. 553 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: It was like it was pretty shameless the way the 554 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 5: Roosters celebrated it. I'm not linking it to Dom Young. 555 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: And I thought the way that Robo explained it yesterday 556 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 5: that press conference, they weren't trying to get Dom Young out. 557 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 6: The Knights approached them. I know the Nights. I know 558 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 6: the Knights approached them, and I know the Knights. 559 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: But do you think that the Roosters are there to 560 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: try and do the Knight fable like they've got a 561 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars footballer sitting in reserve grade. 562 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 6: Of course they want to get rid of him. 563 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's I don't think it's without 564 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: reason that the Knights would be trying to make the 565 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: deal go their way. 566 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: Sure, but they're not going to. But the Knights have approached, 567 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: then they've changed and said no. They said they were 568 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: going to play some money and then changed their mind 569 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 5: and said we're not going to pay any and the 570 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 5: Rusters say no. 571 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: I don't know how that's to a knock on the road. 572 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 6: I'll go back that the. 573 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: Roosters have not made dom Young a better footballer. So 574 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: take all the rest of it out, and that's what 575 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: I look at. I look at the fact that mate, 576 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: he has not become a better footballer in their cyst. 577 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: That's fair enough. 578 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 5: But let's not just, you know, say that the Rusters 579 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: have stuffed up their recruitment because they said no, because 580 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 5: we're not going to pay any money. 581 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: You can't become a better footy payer. 582 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: Domia Well, I think when he arrived at the Knights, mate, 583 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: he was very raw, like he had to be a 584 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 4: work in progress, didn't He had very limited for ball 585 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: in the NRL in this system. 586 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just now I'm back on Brandon Smith too. 587 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: I think what isn't said enough about the situation brandis 588 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Smith is what the Rusters have done for him if field. 589 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: That isn't spoken about that a lot of people don't 590 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: know about. There wasn't there is. 591 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: A lot that the club supported him through and with 592 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of other clubs wouldn't have done. 593 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: So I think that goes I reckon a. 594 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 6: Lot of clubs. 595 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: I don't believe that Melbourne wouldn't have given him support, 596 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: you know. And when they came out and said, and 597 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: the quote from Robo was along the lines that Melbourne 598 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: made you a footballer or not from Robo, sorry, from 599 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 4: Brandon Smith saying his conversation with Robot, they made you 600 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: a football I will. 601 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 6: Make you a man. 602 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: And that's that's to me. 603 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: That's a slap in the face to the Storm system. 604 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: But even when I was one of the most outspoken 605 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: about the Smith signing and I said it wasn't the 606 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: right signing when they did it, you know, so I'm 607 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you. It was just the right signing 608 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: because the Rousters needed a specialist nine. I got rid 609 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: of their Grand Final winn nine and bought a thirteen 610 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: and like and. 611 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: Tried to transform into a specialist nine. 612 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: He can play nine and do it very good, but 613 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: he's a better lock in my opinion. And you know, 614 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: I didn't think the experiment was going to work and 615 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: it didn't, and you know I copped it a bit 616 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: over that, but you know it's just my opinion was 617 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: from the start, but you know it goes back ways. 618 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: You're not wrong, you know, with a lot of what 619 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: you're saying Crauls, but they do invest a lot into 620 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: their players, and I do know a lot about the 621 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: story with Brandon, so you know, I can see both 622 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: sides stick around journeys and tomorrow Sam Goodman looks to 623 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: make his claim for a world title shot. 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