Speaker 1: On Scars Oscodia.
Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panecky Show.
Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show.
Speaker 4: Coming up on tonight's program, the Victorian justice system under
Speaker 4: renewed scrutiny with manifestly in adequate sentences for violent offenders.
Speaker 4: Environed Minister Chris Bowen said to attend COP twenty nine
Speaker 4: with the likes of the Taliban as President Joe Biden
Speaker 4: and the leaders of a number of European countries hit
Speaker 4: the Greenee talk Fest, joining me surely to discuss that
Speaker 4: is Professor Ian Pimer. We also have Patrick Carline and
Speaker 4: the man who predicted Donald Trump would win every single
Speaker 4: swing stake, Josh Hammer, joins me shortly, and later in
Speaker 4: the hour, Doctor Max abrams on Europe's imported extremism problem,
Speaker 4: and we never forget left.
Speaker 3: He's losing it.
Speaker 5: Being skinny, being in all the things that the patriarchy
Speaker 5: wants us to be, because clearly they.
Speaker 3: Don't give it about us.
Speaker 6: And I'm talking to you too, those of you leadies
Speaker 6: who have the internalized misogyny required.
Speaker 3: To do what he did.
Speaker 4: But first, Kevin Rudd's role as Australia's ambassador to the
Speaker 4: US is looking increasingly untenable, and as is often the
Speaker 4: case with Kevin, this is entirely self inflicted. Let's listen
Speaker 4: to just some of what he has had to say
Speaker 4: about President Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: The United States in the last four years has been
Speaker 7: run by a village idiots. People have seen China continued
Speaker 7: continuing to be competent and international state craft and the
Speaker 7: United States increasingly incompetent and international state craft under Trump.
Speaker 8: But the underpinnings of it was still incoherent because Trump
Speaker 8: himself was incoherent, and he waxed and wane from being
Speaker 8: in love with dictators to not knowing what he wanted
Speaker 8: from dictators.
Speaker 3: And it's not just Kevin Rudd.
Speaker 4: Have a look at what some senior ministers in the
Speaker 4: Albanese government have had to say over the years. Tanya
Speaker 4: Plibersek has said that a Trump presidency would be dangerous.
Speaker 4: Bill Shorten, who was the Labor leader at the time,
Speaker 4: said Trump was barking mad and was entirely unsuitable to
Speaker 4: be president, and Anthony Albanzi himself has said that Trump
Speaker 4: scares the shi t out of him. Joining me now
Speaker 4: for more on This is News Corps Senior writer and
Speaker 4: columnist Patrick Carly and Patrick. The Trump derangement syndrome is
Speaker 4: certainly evident in the Australian media. Sadly we expect to
Speaker 4: see that, but it's damaging for the country when it's
Speaker 4: apparent in the Albanese government. This is the leader of
Speaker 4: the free world we're talking about.
Speaker 9: Well, that's right, and it's such a distraction. That's just
Speaker 9: another distraction for Anthony Alberanisi. I'd go back to twenty
Speaker 9: twenty two. Kevin rather had made those comments. There might
Speaker 9: be more comments, It might get worse for all we know.
Speaker 9: While was he appointed to a US ambassador at that
Speaker 9: point in the knowledge Donald Trump is going to have
Speaker 9: a really big crack of being president again. And once
Speaker 9: he's there, it sort of makes it untenable, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kevin Rudd represents our national interest.
Speaker 9: How can he prosecute that when he's been so so
Speaker 9: critical of the bo running America and.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump cares about that. He's not the sort of
Speaker 4: person to forgive and forget. The only chance Kevin Rudd
Speaker 4: has of remaining in that role and actually serving Australia's
Speaker 4: interests is to apologize, to apologize profusely, and to do
Speaker 4: it publicly. He needs to have a bit of humility
Speaker 4: and do that for the greater good, do that for
Speaker 4: the country.
Speaker 3: If he wants to serve that.
Speaker 4: Role, just simply deleting his tweets and deleting posts is made?
Speaker 3: Are we kidding?
Speaker 2: Rather? Unedifying? Was made? It all go away, didn't it?
Speaker 9: But as I said, look as a journalist, So I'm
Speaker 9: cure are there more sort of outpourings of Kevin Rudd's
Speaker 9: true opinion?
Speaker 4: No doubt he loves nothing more than to pontificate and
Speaker 4: what he needs to do.
Speaker 3: Now is to grovel. It's the time is to grovel.
Speaker 4: To get the forgiveness and then perhaps you can serve
Speaker 4: that role and actually serve Australia's interests. Now to New
Speaker 4: South Wales and the Police Association there has negotiated a
Speaker 4: landmark pay deal for police officers, delivering pay increases of
Speaker 4: between twenty two and almost forty percent thirty nine point
Speaker 4: four percent across the entire force, resulting in some offices
Speaker 4: earning up to forty seven thousand dollars extra a year.
Speaker 4: The wage agreement averages out to a nineteen percent increase
Speaker 4: over four years. How can New South Wales afford this.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the police officers don't deserve this, but
Speaker 4: we know Victoria police officer one more money every state
Speaker 4: force would and this is a significant jump.
Speaker 2: It's massive money, isn't it.
Speaker 9: And look, I think it puts the pressure on Victoria
Speaker 9: and the other police forces to actually try and match it.
Speaker 9: And we're talking during your time of high inflation. These
Speaker 9: are massive numbers. Now what I would like to see,
Speaker 9: I mean, I respect what police officers do. They risk
Speaker 9: their lives sometimes on a daily basis. I'd like to
Speaker 9: see maybe those frontline officers being rewarded handsomely because police
Speaker 9: departments are bureaucracies, but we need the officers on the
Speaker 9: front line where every state is always talking about we
Speaker 9: need more officers on the ground. Why aren't there the
Speaker 9: massive pay increases for those officers.
Speaker 3: And forget about the bureaucracy.
Speaker 4: Perhaps cut back because the bureaucracy is growing at a
Speaker 4: speed that I think is not sustainable or even desirable.
Speaker 4: Now to the ironically named Victorian justice system, the questions
Speaker 4: have been raised over how killer Henry Hammond was able
Speaker 4: to obtain taxpayer funded lawyers and legal help from taxpayer
Speaker 4: funded legal aid to bring a suppression bid before the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court to ban media outlets from reporting information about
Speaker 4: him and what he's doing in the future. Victims Grieving
Speaker 4: father John Heron had this to say.
Speaker 3: He said, I feel like the.
Speaker 4: Rest of the Victorian community would feel this is an
Speaker 4: outrage that this is occurring. To use a taxpayer to
Speaker 4: fund that, you've got legal aid facilitating a killer's suppression
Speaker 4: application with complete disregard to the victims. He has an
Speaker 4: excellent point there, and this is a reoccurring event with
Speaker 4: a Victorian justice system.
Speaker 3: Every single week.
Speaker 4: There's just multiple cases where you look at the details
Speaker 4: and wander, how could this happen?
Speaker 9: What sort of got to the point? Hasn't it where
Speaker 9: the defendants right trump the victims right? I mean I've
Speaker 9: never heard I've never met a defendant who wanted the
Speaker 9: public to hear about their alleged crimes. Of course, in
Speaker 9: his new age in enlightenment, if you like, they'll play
Speaker 9: the mental health card, they'll play the depression card, and
Speaker 9: it does come at the cost of poor people like
Speaker 9: John Heron, who makes a very good point. I mean,
Speaker 9: these suppression orders, I'm aware of cases that we can't
Speaker 9: talk about that are hugely in the public interests that
Speaker 9: just cannot be discussed at the moment.
Speaker 3: Were Victoria is the suppression capital.
Speaker 2: It is, and it has swung way too far.
Speaker 4: And when you read about this case, you can kind
Speaker 4: of understand why the killer perhaps doesn't want his activities
Speaker 4: reported on because from what I understand, he was expected
Speaker 4: to be in a mental health facility for twenty to
Speaker 4: twenty plus years and just after a few short years
Speaker 4: he's spotted at a restaurant. So I don't know if
Speaker 4: he's receiving day release or what the situation is there,
Speaker 4: but I think the community is right to be questioning
Speaker 4: what is happening. And this is another example of how
Speaker 4: broken the legal system is in Victoria. Twenty four year
Speaker 4: old Ja jng Lin, a Chinese national studying in Australia,
Speaker 4: received a sentence of just a nine year minimum for
Speaker 4: robbing and killing to women to sex workers. He was
Speaker 4: originally charged with two counts of murder that was reduced
Speaker 4: to manslaughter after he accepted a plea deal. Last JULYA Patrick,
Speaker 4: we talk a lot about violence against women. Where are
Speaker 4: the activists? Where are the activists about these manifestly inadequate sentences.
Speaker 3: About these selft judges.
Speaker 4: I see them more energized about greater Western Sydney getting
Speaker 4: up to risk ay skits on their mad Monday or
Speaker 4: wacky Wednesday than.
Speaker 3: They do about this.
Speaker 4: This is two women's lives, and from what I understand,
Speaker 4: they were murdered so they could be robbed.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 9: Both killings were unprovoked. He stole from them, he showed
Speaker 9: no remorse, and the judge said all that in the
Speaker 9: sentence and then gave him seven years or nine years.
Speaker 9: And it does if you've got sources talking to this
Speaker 9: saying are some victims laws worth more than other victim's laws?
Speaker 9: And it's a very fair question given this sentence is dreadful.
Speaker 4: Talking about less than five years per life taken.
Speaker 2: And that's a public safety issue too. I mean, this
Speaker 2: bloke's going to be out.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully it'll be deported, but yeah, and then we're
Speaker 4: the women of China will have to deal with him.
Speaker 3: Patrick Carlin, thanks for your time tonight.
Speaker 4: Thanks very Joining me now is leading geologist and author
Speaker 4: professor Ian Plymer, Professor, Let's talk about Donald Trump. What
Speaker 4: does a second Trump term with a focus on energy
Speaker 4: security and drill Baby, Drill, mean for Australia, Well, it means.
Speaker 10: The American economy will boom and if Australia doesn't follow suit.
Speaker 11: We're going to be lagging behind.
Speaker 10: Plenty of gas, we have plenty of coal, We've got
Speaker 10: plenty of uranium. We just have to wake up to
Speaker 10: ourselves and use the energy which this country has.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 10: America has a huge amount of coal, a huge amount
Speaker 10: of oil, a huge amount of gas, and they're in
Speaker 10: a drill and they're going to use it and they're
Speaker 10: going to knock down in place.
Speaker 11: They're going to strengthen the country. And trumped it before,
Speaker 11: he'll do it again.
Speaker 4: Can Australia just it's a mission targets to remain competitive
Speaker 4: with America. Is Cris Bowen capable of changing course? He
Speaker 4: had this to say to The Guardian just a few
Speaker 4: days ago. He said, report after report, temperature records tumbling,
Speaker 4: Natural disasters increasingly unnatural. That's why we keep going. That's
Speaker 4: what drives me. It gets me out of bed every day.
Speaker 4: So perhaps alarmed is the wrong word. Disturbed maybe, but
Speaker 4: you know, not surprised. He sounds like a climate catash strophist.
Speaker 3: Professor. I don't think he's capable of changing course.
Speaker 10: Well, I think he should stay in bed, and when
Speaker 10: he's in bed, he should read a.
Speaker 11: Little bit about the history of the planet. So we've
Speaker 11: had great cycles of cooling and warming.
Speaker 10: He should stay in bed, read something about the history
Speaker 10: of the planet, and then he might learn that he's
Speaker 10: absolutely totally on the completely wrong path.
Speaker 11: Now, if he goes down.
Speaker 12: The next zero path, what we're going to do is
Speaker 12: to make ourselves totally and absolutely uncompetitive with the US
Speaker 12: because our energy costs are just so high that we
Speaker 12: won't be able to compete.
Speaker 11: So if he wants to send this company bankrupt, then
Speaker 11: probably the best thing to do is to stay in
Speaker 11: bed and go back to sleep and do nothing.
Speaker 4: Well, we know he's going to be at COP twenty
Speaker 4: nine at the climate conference.
Speaker 13: There.
Speaker 4: Let's have a look at the guest list. President Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: he's not going to be there. Representatives are from the
Speaker 4: European Union. There's quite a few of them skipping the event.
Speaker 4: But Chris Bowen will be there, we're told, Matt Kean
Speaker 4: will be there, and Taliban will be there, the terrorist
Speaker 4: organization the Taliban will be there to pontificate about climate
Speaker 4: change and renewable energy.
Speaker 3: What can we expect from COP twenty nine.
Speaker 11: And what group the misfits. Trump has changed the whole
Speaker 11: surface of the planet in the way we look at energy.
Speaker 10: He's changed everything, and this time it will stick because
Speaker 10: the administration after him will inherit a very very strong US.
Speaker 10: So I think it's an appalling waste of Australia's money
Speaker 10: to send people over there. The only concession would be
Speaker 10: if we give them a one way ticket.
Speaker 4: That I'm all for. I'm happy to do a GoFundMe
Speaker 4: on that. Today Donald Trump is Appointedly Zeblin to lead
Speaker 4: the Environmental Detection Agency over there the EPA. In a
Speaker 4: statement of the New York Posts, Edeland said, I'm deeply
Speaker 4: honored to have been asked by President Trump to serve
Speaker 4: in his cabinet. As EPA administrator, we will restore American
Speaker 4: energy dominance, revitalize our auto industry to bring back American jobs,
Speaker 4: and slash the red tape holding back American workers from
Speaker 4: upward economic mobility. The Trump administration in is likely to
Speaker 4: roll back a whole host of green schemes imposed by
Speaker 4: the Biden administration. We've already seen the share market surge
Speaker 4: after Trump's emphatic win. It looks like it's going to
Speaker 4: be a time of economic prosperity in the US.
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly does.
Speaker 11: And their problems in the US are very similar to
Speaker 11: the ones.
Speaker 2: We have here.
Speaker 11: We have an army of bureaucrats who are.
Speaker 10: Stopping productivity, and this productivity long gems the whole economy.
Speaker 10: And a lot of that loss of productivity is the
Speaker 10: red tape, the Green tape, the black tape, and also
Speaker 10: some of the blue tape from.
Speaker 11: The UN and that stops us being a productive country.
Speaker 14: Now, the EPA is one of the biggest killers of
Speaker 14: productivity in this country.
Speaker 10: We have been going down in productivity in this country.
Speaker 10: We are using resources and not replacing.
Speaker 11: Them because of some of our environmental activists. Trump has realized.
Speaker 14: That it's about time people in this country realized that
Speaker 14: there is a balance between the environment and between a
Speaker 14: vibrant economy. Now blind fready can see that flattening rainforests,
Speaker 14: killing off.
Speaker 10: All wonderful good pastoral land, killing off agricultural land to
Speaker 10: put in solar complexes and wind complexes is not environmental.
Speaker 10: We are killing Australian animals, we are killing indigenous vegetation,
Speaker 10: We are wiping out huge amounts of land which farmers
Speaker 10: and miners and foresters wouldn't be allowed to do. So
Speaker 10: there has to be a we have to bring it
Speaker 10: to the point where we can have jobs, where we
Speaker 10: can have production, where we can have cheap electricity, and
Speaker 10: where we are not destroying the environment. And that's what
Speaker 10: our environmental movement he was doing. We are destroying the environment.
Speaker 4: Let's hope sanity prevails, Professor im Plyma, thank you.
Speaker 3: For your time this evening. Joining me now is Newsweek's senior.
Speaker 4: Editor at Large and Article three Projects Senior Council Josh Hammer.
Speaker 4: Josh Joe Biden will be hosting President elect Donald Trump
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. The man he called a fascist, a white supremacist,
Speaker 4: a threat to democracy.
Speaker 3: How's that meeting going to go?
Speaker 15: You know, Rita.
Speaker 16: If half the people that have been calling Donald Trump
Speaker 16: a Hitler, a fascist, a unique historical threat to American
Speaker 16: democracy or constitutional order, if half these people took themselves seriously,
Speaker 16: they would have already bought plane tickets out of the country.
Speaker 15: I mean, either the man is Hitler, either he is
Speaker 15: a Nazi, or he is not.
Speaker 16: If you believe what you've been saying, even to the
Speaker 16: slightest degree you would have been seeking asylum. You'd have
Speaker 16: been trying to fleet at Canada. The bare minimum, the
Speaker 16: longest border in the world, the US Canadian border. I mean,
Speaker 16: these people just cannot be They cannot be taken seriously.
Speaker 16: I mean Joe Biden, when you know his meeting with
Speaker 16: Donald Trump, I mean, Joe Biden has been saying that
Speaker 16: Donald Trump is hitler.
Speaker 15: So is Kamala Harris there.
Speaker 16: But Joe Biden, as we just saw in that clip,
Speaker 16: is also not a particularly well mad and he cannot
Speaker 16: finish it cohere in sentence at this point there. So
Speaker 16: at this point, I'm just hoping that this meeting somehow
Speaker 16: goes off where they can actually physically communicate to another.
Speaker 16: I mean, that is actually the barest of bare minimums,
Speaker 16: is that he can actually complete sentences in the English
Speaker 16: language and they can have a conversation. Now, the good
Speaker 16: thing about Donald Trump, as you know, is that Donald
Speaker 16: Trump has been president before. He literally has already done
Speaker 16: this for four years. So he probably doesn't need the
Speaker 16: whole tutorial, the whole learning curve. He's been there, done that.
Speaker 16: He is sat at the resolute desk. He has been there,
Speaker 16: but for so Look, I mean, this transition period is
Speaker 16: off to a blistering star of the nominees, the personnel
Speaker 16: were being named on the day and day about there.
Speaker 16: It's basically going to be an all out sprint at
Speaker 16: this point until January twenty or twenty twenty five, when
Speaker 16: Donald Trump, god willing finally takes power and Joe Biden
Speaker 16: has seen the ashtube of history.
Speaker 4: Now, what do you make of the theory that Joe
Speaker 4: Biden got his revenge on the Obama Pelosi led coup
Speaker 4: against him by endorsing Kamala Harris, a candidate they didn't want,
Speaker 4: a candidate that BARACKO Obama didn't want.
Speaker 3: Did Joe know that she had no chance of winning?
Speaker 4: And by endorsing her he kind of forced everybody else's hand.
Speaker 16: You know, I don't think that Joe Biden knows what
Speaker 16: he's doing. I mean, not to put too fine a
Speaker 16: point on it, but I genuinely do not think that
Speaker 16: he is fully in control of either his physical or
Speaker 16: his mental faculties at this point here. I mean, anything
Speaker 16: that Joe Biden does, I guess what I'm saying is
Speaker 16: it's not actually coming from Joe Biden. It's coming from
Speaker 16: quote unquote doctor Joe Biden is coming. It's coming from
Speaker 16: people around him.
Speaker 15: There.
Speaker 16: Joe Biden is not calling the shots at this particular
Speaker 16: point there. I mean the funniest thing to me that
Speaker 16: I have seen since last Tuesday's election. There is a
Speaker 16: lot of funny stuff out there. I mean the view
Speaker 16: the left wing media, they're having conniption fits. Sonny Hosts
Speaker 16: on the View is routinely just saying that the only
Speaker 16: reason Kamala Harris lost because of rampant, ubiquitous sexism and
Speaker 16: massagying in America. I mean, way to actually miss what's
Speaker 16: happening right under your nose. But one of the funniest
Speaker 16: things of this post election fall out to me is
Speaker 16: the way that the Biden camp and the Harris camp
Speaker 16: just continue to snipe at each other as if they
Speaker 16: are the problem. Let me be very clear in my opinion,
Speaker 16: Joe Biden is not the reason the Democrats lost. Kamala
Speaker 16: Harris is not the reason the Democrats lost. The reason
Speaker 16: the Democrats loss is the Democrats is for the actual
Speaker 16: stances they have taken, for the actual completely radical, out
Speaker 16: of touch nature of the various positions they have taken
Speaker 16: when it comes to gender to race, the immigration, to culture,
Speaker 16: to economics, the foreign polsitive, you name it. They are
Speaker 16: completely out of touch with the Median American. And unless
Speaker 16: then tell they actually have the introspective moment where they
Speaker 16: look in the mirror and they actually realize that Unless
Speaker 16: until that happens, I have the Republicans are well set
Speaker 16: to continue winning well into the future.
Speaker 4: At this point, Well, that analysis has been just so
Speaker 4: completely divorced from reality. If they don't actually figure it out,
Speaker 4: we're going to see a dynasty of Republicans in the
Speaker 4: White House because they seem to be doubling down the
Speaker 4: Democrats on the craziness, the identity politics, the victimhood, all
Speaker 4: the dogmas that have really crippled them as a party
Speaker 4: and alienated them from so much of their supporter base.
Speaker 3: I want to play you a.
Speaker 4: Clip from Megan Kelly, a woman who has had clashes
Speaker 4: with Donald Trump in the past, but she was a
Speaker 4: very strong supporter for him in twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 4: here she explains why the Democrats and the miserable cat
Speaker 4: lady ideology lost.
Speaker 13: Standing up for female empowerment, which I've done my entire life,
Speaker 13: does not require me to such all over American men.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry, but this is why I never called myself
Speaker 13: a feminist to begin with, because I knew, I knew
Speaker 13: what you left a spot of feminism. It meant abortion
Speaker 13: and crapping on men. And most of us women over
Speaker 13: on the side of the normies.
Speaker 3: Don't want that.
Speaker 13: We love our husband, we love our boys, our sons,
Speaker 13: our dads, our brothers, our male friends and colleagues, and
Speaker 13: we are not ready to consider this a zero sum
Speaker 13: game where we must advance at their expense. Until you
Speaker 13: get that through your thick head, you'll keep losing.
Speaker 3: God, I love her. She makes some excellent points there.
Speaker 3: The Democrats would do well.
Speaker 4: To listen to the likes of Meg and Kelly instead
Speaker 4: of the Lady of the view all the and miss
Speaker 4: NBAC crises, because if they actually listen to that, they
Speaker 4: could address it and be competitive next time.
Speaker 16: Yeah, Rita, they could, but they will choose not to
Speaker 16: do so, and I think that they have a very
Speaker 16: concerted reason why they are choosing not to use it.
Speaker 16: I mean, look, one of two things has to be
Speaker 16: true when it comes to this post mortem analysis. And
Speaker 16: if you can even call that that, Democrats are very
Speaker 16: publicly engaging in on the one hand, they're actually really stupid.
Speaker 16: I mean, like, one possibility is that they're genuinely operating
Speaker 16: at a low IQ level. I don't actually believe that
Speaker 16: to be the case. I genuinely actually do not think
Speaker 16: that is true. So that raises the alternative possibility as
Speaker 16: to what actually is going on here.
Speaker 15: And when I was discussing with some others here earlier.
Speaker 16: Today, I'm actually on the road to speak to some
Speaker 16: college and law school students.
Speaker 15: So what I was discussing earlier to say, what.
Speaker 16: Some college students that I'm speaking to is what I
Speaker 16: think is happening. The Democrats has to become so convinced
Speaker 16: over the course of fifteen twenty thirty years, especially since
Speaker 16: Barack Obama two, they become so convinced of their own
Speaker 16: moral and ethical and indeed intellectual superiority. They are so
Speaker 16: convinced that they are actually better than the rest of
Speaker 16: America flyover country, the people who live closer to a
Speaker 16: river valley in America rather than the two coasts, and
Speaker 16: people like that. They think that their values are better,
Speaker 16: They think that their way of life is better. Their
Speaker 16: approach to everything from religion to economics, to transgender to
Speaker 16: immigration to race. They are so convinced that they are
Speaker 16: superior that therefore, the only possible explanation as to how
Speaker 16: the political party that ostensibly embodies and exudes this great
Speaker 16: virtuous movement, the only reason why could possibly lose under
Speaker 16: this ridiculous analysis is that half the country is actually racist.
Speaker 15: Sex is big at homophobe. That is actually I think.
Speaker 16: What you're seeing out there, Magan Kelly is obviously spot on.
Speaker 16: She's one of our most astute observers of the American
Speaker 16: political scene today. She's actually giving a very free bit
Speaker 16: of advice here to a political party that is not
Speaker 16: her own. They will be very wise to take it,
Speaker 16: but they're probably not going.
Speaker 10: To do so.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I think you've been too quick to discount the low
Speaker 4: IQ explanation. I think that may be at play as well.
Speaker 4: You wrote a fantastic piece about the end of obama Ism.
Speaker 4: It's hard to say for Newsweek that piece is being
Speaker 4: shared widely. The American people have definitely rejected that agenda.
Speaker 4: They're backing Trump's mega movement. What will be the impact
Speaker 4: on Barack Obama's legacy here and what do you see
Speaker 4: not just for the next four years of Trump's second term.
Speaker 3: But beyond that, you know, this is.
Speaker 16: One of the most important questions that I don't think
Speaker 16: we know the answers to you. And in fact, my
Speaker 16: father in law just asking this question the other day
Speaker 16: and they wasn't sure how to answer him either. Look,
Speaker 16: if Democrats are actually going to be intellectually honest, that
Speaker 16: they're actually going to a with the correct conclusions as
Speaker 16: to what went so catastrophically wrong in this particular election cycle,
Speaker 16: then they're going to realize that the Barack Obama coalition
Speaker 16: is over. That the one time coalition of the Assentence,
Speaker 16: as was commonly referred to, has actually now descended into
Speaker 16: utter ruination and decay and decline, and it's just totally
Speaker 16: in completely collapsed. And this is a coalition that was
Speaker 16: formed based on all the intersexual constituent parts of America.
Speaker 16: You had blackens and Hispanics and immigrants and young people
Speaker 16: and this and that, and it's all done. I mean,
Speaker 16: Donald Trump has shattered that coalition. So it logically follows
Speaker 16: that Democrats are actually going to soberly realize that that
Speaker 16: the guy who put his entire legacy on the line
Speaker 16: yet again in Barack Obama, which he did this cycle,
Speaker 16: he spoke with the DNC in Chicago, he was all
Speaker 16: over the campaign trail for Kamala Harrison, Tim Wallas in
Speaker 16: those final moments, he really put his entire two term
Speaker 16: legacy on the line for this miserable, awful ticket, and
Speaker 16: he lost big time. So if you combine the fact
Speaker 16: that the ticket actually lost and then Barack Obama's signature
Speaker 16: coalition loss, he should be gone. I mean, he should
Speaker 16: be out of public light. He should be relegated to
Speaker 16: Martha's vineyard, go host some fancy cocktail parties for your
Speaker 16: elite crowd whatever there.
Speaker 15: That is what should happen.
Speaker 16: But again, to circle back to what we're saying a
Speaker 16: few minutes ago, I don't think that's going to happen
Speaker 16: because I don't think that they're actually going to arrive
Speaker 16: at any of the correct conclusions. So I seriously think,
Speaker 16: rita that four years from now, in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 16: when JD. Vance will probably be elected the next president
Speaker 16: of the United States, I think four years from now,
Speaker 16: in twenty twenty eight, Democrats are just going to run
Speaker 16: this same playbook all over again. I don't think it's
Speaker 16: actually going to work any better. Four years from now
Speaker 16: than it did this like, and we're.
Speaker 4: Going to have the same posters telling us how close
Speaker 4: it is, and they'll be terribly wrong again because they
Speaker 4: are sampling the wrong people. You've been busy this Wegg.
Speaker 4: You've written about six paces. I don't know where you
Speaker 4: find the time to sleep. But one of those pieces
Speaker 4: was for the New York Post about what Trump hopes
Speaker 4: to achieve in his first high hundred days in office
Speaker 4: for his second term. We know he's all about America first,
Speaker 4: that's the agenda, But what do you expect to say
Speaker 4: in terms of the war in Ukraine and the war
Speaker 4: between Hamas and Israel.
Speaker 16: Well, from foreign policy respective, I think Donald Trump is
Speaker 16: going to prioritize finding an off bremp for both Blaimir
Speaker 16: Lensky and Vlamir Putin when it comes to the Russi
Speaker 16: Ukraine world. Look, he has sent in the past that
Speaker 16: he is going to get this deal done in one day.
Speaker 16: I'm not entirely sure that that is going to happen,
Speaker 16: but I think it actually is going to happen sooner
Speaker 16: rather than later. The difference between Donald Trump and Western
Speaker 16: leaders real large when it comes to the Rushi Ukraine conflict.
Speaker 16: Is that Donald Trump is a businessman, understands a certain
Speaker 16: thing called a leverage, and he understands that when you
Speaker 16: incentivize Vlaimir Lensky and you communicate to him that the
Speaker 16: entire West is going to arm Ukraine to the brink
Speaker 16: unless until they recover every single square inch of territory,
Speaker 16: that's not exactly sending the right incentives to wind down
Speaker 16: this conflict.
Speaker 15: But Donald Trump is a pragmatist, are reveal us.
Speaker 16: I think he's going to find a way to get
Speaker 16: an end to this conflict sooner rather than later, probably
Speaker 16: in the first one hundred to two hundred days at
Speaker 16: the absolute most, possibly even sooner than that when it
Speaker 16: comes to an off ramp that can be ultimately taken
Speaker 16: back to be politically palatable for both Putin ands lens
Speaker 16: When it comes to the conflict in Israel, I think
Speaker 16: Donald Trump is basically just going to tell Bibi Natanyahu
Speaker 16: do what has to be done to wrap this thing
Speaker 16: up sooner rather than later. When it comes to both
Speaker 16: Hamas and Gaza, as well as Hasbala and Lebanon, the
Speaker 16: Iranian piece, the puzzle is a little bit more complicated.
Speaker 16: Of course, that's not going to happen overnight there. But
Speaker 16: all indications that I've seen thus far are that Donald
Speaker 16: Trump is going to put back into place all of
Speaker 16: the maximum pressure campaign tactics that he had against the
Speaker 16: Iranian regime the first time, including the sanctions on oil exports. Really,
Speaker 16: it's the lapse of those sanctions that the Bien harris
Speaker 16: manstrration has put into place that have funded the regime
Speaker 16: that have led them to sow the seeds of Jihada's
Speaker 16: chaos throughout the region these past four years. I think
Speaker 16: we're going to see a very similar iron policy that
Speaker 16: Donald Trump had the first time around, and that was
Speaker 16: a very good policy, so I hope it to be
Speaker 16: the case as well.
Speaker 4: Now, before you go, I mentioned at the top of
Speaker 4: the show that you predicted Donald Trump would win every
Speaker 4: single swing state. I don't think anybody else was that
Speaker 4: confident about that, and you said it was not going
Speaker 4: to be close. Ignore the polls, it was going to
Speaker 4: be a landslide. You were right about that, and he'd
Speaker 4: been saying it for some time. So the question is
Speaker 4: why were the Polsters, the overwhelming majority of them, so wrong?
Speaker 4: How do they keep getting it wrong? How do are
Speaker 4: they not losing all credibility. We had one polster suggests
Speaker 4: that Iowa was up for grabs for the Democrats and
Speaker 4: Trump ended up winning it by thirteen fourteen percent.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 16: And by the way, that polster in Iowa, her name
Speaker 16: is Anne Seltzer. She's the chief polster for the Des
Speaker 16: Moines Register, of the biggest newspaper in Iowa. You know,
Speaker 16: she's considered actually to be the gold standard of Iowa pulsters.
Speaker 16: In fact, in the first in the nation Iowa Caucuses,
Speaker 16: it's the final end Seltzer poll that traditionally has been
Speaker 16: loooked to as an actual projection. So you know, even
Speaker 16: the posters here in America that are considered to be
Speaker 16: the best of the best. The point that I'm making
Speaker 16: have been just totally watching the Trump phenomenon frankly since
Speaker 16: the get go, and I actually think read and the
Speaker 16: reason that I was able to predict, I think the
Speaker 16: fact that Donald Trump would sweep all seven of the
Speaker 16: swing states across the sun Belt in the Gray Lakes area.
Speaker 16: The reason it's fairly simple and its structural and methodological
Speaker 16: is that the polsters bus Bar have still not found
Speaker 16: a way to tap into the low propensity Trump port.
Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thanks for your time this evening, and coming.
Speaker 4: Up next, it's time for your favorite segment, Lefty's Losing It.
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now it's time for Lefty's Losing It.
Speaker 4: The post election analysis is underway and we've talked about
Speaker 4: Republicans being blessed with some of the dumbest political opponents
Speaker 4: on God's Green Earth, and this next Lefty is no exception.
Speaker 4: Here is Vanity Fair and MSNBC's Molly John Fast blaming
Speaker 4: not just misogyny, but institutional misogyny and sexy images for
Speaker 4: Kamala's downfall.
Speaker 17: He leaned into a lot of the institutionalized misogyny as
Speaker 17: a way to try to neutralize her effectiveness. So she
Speaker 17: super effective speaker, really galvanized voters in a really important way.
Speaker 17: And what the Trump campaign did, and I think ultimately
Speaker 17: they were able to, was they flooded the Internet with
Speaker 17: over sexualized images of her. They spread lies about her
Speaker 17: romantic history.
Speaker 4: That is so completely divorced from reality it's unintentionally funny.
Speaker 4: Did she actually claim that Kamala is a really effective speaker?
Speaker 4: The word salad queen who can't utter a coherent sentence
Speaker 4: to save herself. But Molly wasn't done yet. Listen to
Speaker 4: this bit of batpoop crazy analysis where she claims that
Speaker 4: Kamala's own campaign, which was hyper focused on securing the
Speaker 4: female vote, was actually anti women.
Speaker 17: And you'll remember it. She ran this brose campaign, right,
Speaker 17: a campaign that was largely sort of anti woman in
Speaker 17: a way.
Speaker 4: Look, it's only a matter of time before Molly joins
Speaker 4: the other crazy cat ladies and cuts her hair on
Speaker 4: camera to protest Trump and democracy a.
Speaker 6: Given up in America, have also given up. I'm coloring
Speaker 6: this hair because great coloring my hair, having my hair belong.
Speaker 5: I'm luxurious that being skinny, being hot, in all the
Speaker 5: things that the patriarchy wants us to be, because clearly
Speaker 5: they don't.
Speaker 3: Give it about us.
Speaker 6: And I'm talking to you too, those of you ladies
Speaker 6: who have the internalized misogyny required to do what he
Speaker 6: did the minorities.
Speaker 5: We're so scared of a woman in power that you'd
Speaker 5: rather cause you up to the weight man, just in
Speaker 5: case some crumbs fall off his plate so that you
Speaker 5: may eat from them. Yes, Rahaps, I don't know how
Speaker 5: to work this thing, man, I'm aware.
Speaker 4: Put to one side the dementedness there the racism, the
Speaker 4: bold face racism against minorities who voted for Trump. And
Speaker 4: Marvel are just how hopeless this woman is.
Speaker 3: She can't even work a clipper.
Speaker 4: A literal monkey could work clippers. They're not hard to
Speaker 4: work out. Let's take a little trip down memory lane
Speaker 4: to just a few weeks ago, when supposed sensible lefty
Speaker 4: Bill ma had convinced himself that Kamala was going to
Speaker 4: win and win comfortably.
Speaker 3: This is aged like a glass of milk.
Speaker 1: Am I going to worry about it? First of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to worry about it, Phil, because he's
Speaker 1: not going to win. First of all, She's definitely going
Speaker 1: to win the popular vote, as Democrats almost always do.
Speaker 16: Now.
Speaker 1: But I think you will win.
Speaker 3: Oh dear, how wrong can you be? Bill? You want
Speaker 3: to pretend you're.
Speaker 4: The critical thinker, the leftist who isn't protected from reality,
Speaker 4: but your Trump arrangement syndrome has you uttering absurdities like this.
Speaker 4: I hope doctor Phil stepped in with a prescription after
Speaker 4: this rant about Trump's supporters.
Speaker 1: His followers, I think, well, I don't think their heart
Speaker 1: will really be in it as it was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Some of them. There's lots of people who will always
Speaker 1: be in the bunker with Missus Goebels taking the poison
Speaker 1: and giving the poison to the children, because it's better
Speaker 1: than living in a world without national socialism.
Speaker 4: Doctor Phil's face says it all.
Speaker 3: This dude is beyond hell.
Speaker 4: Bill Maher may occasionally say something sensible, essentially copying what
Speaker 4: conservatives have said for years, what we've said when it
Speaker 4: actually mattered, but in the end he's just another lefty
Speaker 4: losing it like this dude on sea and having a
Speaker 4: full blown tantrum because a conservative on the panel, Shamichael Singleton,
Speaker 4: actually used accurate language to describe boys as boys.
Speaker 16: A lot of families out there who don't believe boys
Speaker 16: should play girls sports.
Speaker 18: They're not boys. I'm not going to listen to trans.
Speaker 15: An trans girl boy.
Speaker 11: Finish when you use.
Speaker 8: It changed.
Speaker 15: They're not just boys, they're girls.
Speaker 19: I'm not gonna sit there listen a second, because look,
Speaker 19: this is a really heated issue, right and Sha Michael,
Speaker 19: I know you, I know that you understand that people
Speaker 19: have different views on this. I think, out of respect
Speaker 19: for Jay, like, let's try to talk about this in
Speaker 19: a way that is respectful.
Speaker 4: No shame on the host there for siding with the
Speaker 4: fringe dwelling, hysterical clown and trying to pull the completely
Speaker 4: accurate and reasonable language of a man who was making
Speaker 4: the pertinent point that most normal people don't want boys
Speaker 4: in girl sports. But the white dude for Kamala, well,
Speaker 4: his tantrum was not over.
Speaker 15: Yet regular people interpret it.
Speaker 20: That's not that's not regular people. There's no consensus that
Speaker 20: these are actually boys. This whole thing about trans girls
Speaker 20: is a canard. It's we're talking about a tiny, tiny
Speaker 20: sliver of the population using rhetoric like you just use
Speaker 20: saying this is boys playing girl sports, talking about trans
Speaker 20: girls playing playing being allowed to play with the people
Speaker 20: who are in their gender. And if we don't believe,
Speaker 20: you don't have to listen to me, listen to the
Speaker 20: American Medical Association, the American Psychological.
Speaker 4: You can see why Donald Trump won in a landslide.
Speaker 4: And here is John Stewart with a message to the
Speaker 4: polsters who protected the left from the truth, from the
Speaker 4: reality that they're the minority.
Speaker 1: Send a quick message to all the pollsters, the election posters.
Speaker 2: Me, I don't.
Speaker 1: Ever want to from you again.
Speaker 13: Ever.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to hear.
Speaker 17: We've corrected videover connection you don't know about.
Speaker 3: And I don't care for you.
Speaker 4: Still to come shopping scenes out of Amsterdam as extremists
Speaker 4: continue to riot.
Speaker 3: Security expert Max Abrams joins me next. Welcome back.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is international security expert, author, and Associate
Speaker 4: professor of political science at Northeastern University, doctor Max Abrams.
Speaker 4: Max WI will delve in to what the second Trump
Speaker 4: term means for the international community, particularly the Middle East.
Speaker 3: But first of the.
Speaker 4: Shocking scenes out of Amsterdam and the violence that saw
Speaker 4: Jewish soccer fans targeted, Chase beaten. The unrest continues with
Speaker 4: writers setting a tram on fire, throwing stones, fireworks. It's
Speaker 4: pretty clear Europe has an extremism problem. Much of it
Speaker 4: has been imported, and Max, as you have noted, border
Speaker 4: security is national security.
Speaker 18: Personally, this story very much jove tales with the Trump
Speaker 18: administration's agenda where they ran very strongly against Biden's hoping
Speaker 18: order policy. And it's going to be a problem until
Speaker 18: the national authorities crack down on these migrants and seal
Speaker 18: up the borders. There's no question.
Speaker 4: And you talk about the global into Vada, and it's
Speaker 4: not just in Amsterdam, where we're seeing these scenes. In Germany,
Speaker 4: Jewish youngsters in a youth football team have been put
Speaker 4: under police protection after an attack by pro Palestinian mob
Speaker 4: armed with sticks and knives during a match in Berlin.
Speaker 3: The Telegraph reports.
Speaker 4: The teenagers from the Maccabi Berlin youth side say they
Speaker 4: were hunted down by a gang of Arab youths after
Speaker 4: a game against local rivals last week. The game was
Speaker 4: played in a neighborhood known for its large Arab and
Speaker 4: Turkish population. The situation is so grim across much of
Speaker 4: Europe max that Israeli authorities have put out a guide
Speaker 4: of high risk countries assessing the risk of online anti
Speaker 4: Semitism and physical attacks. You can see there shamefully, we've
Speaker 4: got countries like Germany, France, the UK who have high
Speaker 4: or very high risk of physical and online attacks.
Speaker 18: The crazy thing about this international Palestine movement is it
Speaker 18: really got galvanized by the October seventh, twenty twenty three attack.
Speaker 18: So it's not as if a peace process had fallen apart,
Speaker 18: and you know, Muslims all over the world got upset
Speaker 18: that there couldn't be a two state solution. Hamas went
Speaker 18: on a terrorist rempage. That is the second most lethal
Speaker 18: terrorist attack in modern history anywhere in the world. And
Speaker 18: ever since then, we've seen these antifaudas erupt all over
Speaker 18: the place, including frankly inside the United States and Canada.
Speaker 18: There have been problems in Australia, but Europe seems to
Speaker 18: be particularly radicalized, and I do think a big part
Speaker 18: of that has to do with these weak quarters and
Speaker 18: the fact that these migrants go in and out there's
Speaker 18: no accountability. And the radicalization problem I want to emphasize
Speaker 18: is not just directed against Jews. It's directed against Western civilization,
Speaker 18: if you will. They attacked the cops, they attacked public
Speaker 18: transportation in that country. So make no mistake, these perpetrators
Speaker 18: are a danger broadly to the state, to the Jews,
Speaker 18: to anyone really who lives there.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: To the US election, it was an emphatic landslide victory
Speaker 4: for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: It's going to change not.
Speaker 4: Only America this election, but change the Middle East. How
Speaker 4: nervous would Iran's Islamis regime be?
Speaker 18: Right now, Max, There's no question that Kamala Harris was
Speaker 18: seen as a pro Iran candidate, and Trump, of course
Speaker 18: is the opposite. The last time he was president, he
Speaker 18: opposed and managed to topple the so called Iran nuclear Deal,
Speaker 18: which was flawed in all sorts of ways, and he
Speaker 18: did this by applying maximum sanctions against Tran taking out
Speaker 18: the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. Course, so the
Speaker 18: world of there was a lot of acrimony between the
Speaker 18: Trump administration and the Iranian leadership, which reportedly has been
Speaker 18: targeting Trump as well as his advisors. Most recently, Trump
Speaker 18: has said to Israel that it gives Israel the green
Speaker 18: light to attack Iranian nuclear facilities. And that's different than
Speaker 18: the Kamala Harris campaign, which certainly wouldn't entertain that idea.
Speaker 18: I also want to point out though that this that
Speaker 18: this presidency is really emphasizing peace through strength, and the
Speaker 18: idea is that the United States is not going to
Speaker 18: be running around the world, you know, hyperactive in its
Speaker 18: use of military force. So the you know, MAGA, the
Speaker 18: MAGA movement really sees itself as quite different than the
Speaker 18: so called neo coms. And so even though Trump is
Speaker 18: you know, very much opposed to the Iranian regime and
Speaker 18: they have a history of acrimony, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 18: he's going to be cavalier in terms of opening up
Speaker 18: new wars. I think that he may already be onto
Speaker 18: something because you'll recall that Israel, you know, as retaliation
Speaker 18: for the October one ballistic missile attack, struck Iranian military
Speaker 18: targets on October twenty six, and ever since then, we've
Speaker 18: been expecting Iran to reply militarily against Israel. And this
Speaker 18: was particularly the case after the election, and yet Donald
Speaker 18: Trump has won and we haven't heard that much. I mean,
Speaker 18: this could change at any minute. I don't know, but
Speaker 18: so far, it does seem plausible that Iran has been
Speaker 18: put alert and that's the reason why it's acting with
Speaker 18: more restraint and hasn't attacked Israel because although the presidential
Speaker 18: transition hasn't happened, Iran well knows that Trump is going
Speaker 18: to be the president in a couple months, and so
Speaker 18: it really needs to be careful. And I think that
Speaker 18: that's really the best solution, where Trump essentially, you know,
Speaker 18: scares the Iranian regime. Military force is not necessarily needed,
Speaker 18: and it just sort of makes Iran much more cautious
Speaker 18: in terms of how it uses military sporce as well
Speaker 18: as how it arms its terrorist proxies.
Speaker 4: That would be an incredible feat if he's already having
Speaker 4: that impact not even been sworn in for his second term,
Speaker 4: Because my fear was that in this period where we've
Speaker 4: got a weak lane duck administration, that the Iranians were
Speaker 4: going to act in this little.
Speaker 3: Window of time that they've got.
Speaker 4: The Trump transition team has been working hard, the reports,
Speaker 4: They've been working hard for months preparing for this second term.
Speaker 4: And among the very first selections that President Elect Donald
Speaker 4: Trump has made is naming New York Congresswoman Elise Stephanick
Speaker 4: to be the Ambassador to the UN, a critically important role.
Speaker 3: Max. Do you believe she's up to this task?
Speaker 18: You know, it's ironic because Trump was accused all the
Speaker 18: time of being some kind of misogynist, you know, who
Speaker 18: hates women, and his first major appointments have been for women,
Speaker 18: his chief of staff as well as now the ambassador
Speaker 18: to the UN. I do think it's a good selection.
Speaker 18: This woman is very credentialed. She's a senior Republican in
Speaker 18: Congress in a New York district, and she really became
Speaker 18: famous on the national stage by essentially humiliating the presidents
Speaker 18: of some of the best universities in the world, even
Speaker 18: got the president of the University of Pennsylvania, my alma mater,
Speaker 18: to step down or to get fired. She was very
Speaker 18: much a leader against the global antifata, anti Semitism coach campuses,
Speaker 18: and I think that that indicated that she will serve
Speaker 18: that sort of role in the UN, where one of
Speaker 18: the major votes that the ambassador, the US Ambassador to
Speaker 18: the UN does is it blocks all sorts of countries
Speaker 18: from teaming up against Israel. At the same time, she's
Speaker 18: known very much as part of this America First right,
Speaker 18: part of the MAGA movement, and I think that that
Speaker 18: goes very well with the Trump administration. And so you know,
Speaker 18: Trump and his subordinates, they frankly a very little respect
Speaker 18: for the UN. In a way, it's the exact opposite
Speaker 18: of America First. And so I think that this appointment
Speaker 18: in the UN are going to be at loggerheads the
Speaker 18: entire time.
Speaker 4: Doctor Max Ibrams, thank you so much for your time,
Speaker 4: my pleasure. That's it from me. I'll see you at
Speaker 4: eleven tomorrow. Up next is Newsnight.