WEBVTT - Why Leaving A Job Can Be the Best Move 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.880 Today we're recording on Gadigul country and we'd like. 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.360 To pay our respects to the traditional custodians of the 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:06.439 gat Girl people. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:06.920 Let's go. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:12.440 I know you're going to dig this. It's like I've 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:16.560 been given like an extra sprinkle of something. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.840 You've got layers, Yeah, I've got layers. I was just thinking, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.880 I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.800 You make a lot of sense to that. Girl. No, 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:27.920 I'm done here. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.239 Let's be in too honest to go. Okay, okay, we 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.000 were literally just talking about you going to Europe and 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:35.320 you want to be in the best every year. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.839 That's right, Yes, I want. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.520 To take it's thirty pushing that like say, like if 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.320 you were turning twenty nine, Yeah, but do you feel 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.080 like you would still be this motivated or is it 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.680 the thirty That's like one thing, it is the thirty. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.239 It's the I want to enter my thirties and I 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.400 legit just want to feel like the best version of 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.880 version of my loom. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.640 You want to be the best version of your Yeah, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.600 of course, because I feel like over the last few 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.520 years there's been ups and downs in my progress and work. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.920 You know, mental health comes into that as well, but 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.600 I feel like going to I've booked a five week 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.920 holiday to Europe, so oh my god, I just feel 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.720 like that is going to be like the rebirth of 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.200 the next decade, the generation. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.039 What am I doing Emily in Paris? Yes, well, the 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.640 thing is Maddie euro eurod Well. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.759 The thing is I'm looking for actually like a slogan 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.280 for my birthday dinner, which is going to be on 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.520 the night before my birthday. I'm looking at creating a 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.640 save the date so I'll send it to and you're 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.880 obviously both invited. I'm going to do it like a 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.360 really beautiful birthday. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.679 Who's both yes on me? 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.000 As in studio guys. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.880 Now you're meant to like not ignore you, baby, but yeah, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.960 but yes, we'll be well Mea and I will be 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.160 definitely there, amazed. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.280 I want to do like a really beautiful, like long 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.400 table dinner with like all my friends, and I want 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.760 it to be at this place called Olympus in Redfern. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.320 So you can't book until like two weeks out. They're 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.320 really like strict, So I'm hoping I'm going to do 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.840 a backup booking somewhere and then I'm going to like 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.600 hope that they can give me like the table of 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:12.239 twenty people. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:12.959 Yeah. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.280 So and then the next day I fly to Europe. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.600 Okay, so you have the long lunch and then you 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.840 fly literally what the next day, next night, So. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.560 I have my birthday day in Sydney and then I'm 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.840 flying to Europe at eight thirty pm on the Monday 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.840 the twenty six So like I'm in the air for 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:30.760 my birthday night. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.920 Oh well, that's kind of cool, like you could have 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.880 a wine baby on the plane, like living it up. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.720 Totally and these like I booked business suite so it's 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.919 like sliding doors and shit, I know that's boogie. It's 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.240 my birthday present to myself. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.480 Maddie's bougie birthday. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.320 Oh boogie birthday. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.200 Birthday. I had what it was Brooks mob party or something. Yeah, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.960 it was a mob party, but that was a full 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.359 same thing, like this is your birthday. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.440 Yeah, we'll come up with we'll come up with something. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.440 But yeah, So that's sort of like where my mind 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.160 is at the moment looking forward to that. I've been 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.200 hyperfixating on that and looking at properties on the Gold Coast. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.000 I know, I mean, the contrast is like crazy. I 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.360 mean that's thirty. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.640 Yeah. Well, the thing is I actually want my lifestyle 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.440 to change for my thirties, the decade of my thirties. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.480 What's this big push? Like, I mean, you've always been 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.720 really like motivated, but there's this there's this really you know, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.080 I feel like there's a shift in you that's like, yeah, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.360 I need to get to a certain point in your life, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.800 I think. Or is it just like things that you 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.240 want to have when you turn thirty. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.080 Well, I think what's happened is that I've always felt 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:52.120 like I've been very i would say obedient to what 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.680 I would say is like the appeal of the industry, 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.840 and I've always felt like I needed to be in 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:01.200 Sydney to get work or be successful. And I think 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.000 that if I keep on living in that mindset into 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.840 my thirties, that I'm going to be a slave to 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.920 my career and I'm not going to have the lifestyle 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.480 I want. So what I'm doing now is putting myself 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.880 first and seeing how that you know, manifests my life. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.159 So it's like moving to the Gold Coast. I've always 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:17.440 like I've wanted to do that. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.520 Spoken about it, You've mentioned like I'd say, like three 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.479 Orten times to me. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.480 Yeah, so I also just like. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.520 Every time I go to the Gold Coast, I'm moving here. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:27.599 I could move here. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.960 The thing is, I want to wake up, walk cross 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.600 the road to the beach. I actually want to get 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.800 a dog. I love dogs. Like, why wouldn't I live 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.120 my life with a dog if I absolutely love dogs? 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.400 You know? So I want to, you know, move to 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.040 the Gold Coast, live my life across the road from 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.800 the beach. What I can afford there is like really 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.000 nice compared to what I can afford in Sydney. It's 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:47.159 just about lifestyle. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.080 It's kind of tempting me. I was like, damn, maybe 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:50.600 I want to move. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.760 It's just like I feel like we have such a 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.440 short time on the earth, like make the big decisions 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.120 for the for the rewards, you know. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.120 So have you been feeling like this for a while 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.240 in terms of the you know, when you mentioned slave 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.680 to your career, Like, have you felt like you're just 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.000 doing the thing but you're not getting much back? Like 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.800 do you feel like you're just doing it for the 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.000 sake of doing it and you're not really enjoying it? 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.719 Well, yeah, I feel like I enjoy everything I do 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.440 for my career, but I feel like I'm constantly trying 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.400 to appeal to the industry and do what the industry 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.039 expects of me. So, for instance, you know, living my 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.200 life in a way that is open to receiving what 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.560 the industry will give me in terms of opportunity, and 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.640 that's always been about centralizing myself here. Yeah, but now 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.600 I'm like, you know what, I can be really strategic 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.240 with my work. For instance, I have like a project 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.240 next year that I'm going to be filming for like 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.640 three months of the year, and for me, that project 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.800 will take me out of Sydney anyway. So why wouldn't 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.920 I essentialize myself in a place that I really love 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.159 and want to want to be instead of just being 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.440 here because I think, oh, I'm going to miss out. Yeah, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.000 and I'm sick of that feeling of oh I'm going 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.760 to miss out. It's like you are an hour away 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.280 on a flight if you really want that opportunity to 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.120 jump on the plane. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.640 Well, I can advocate the fact that I, when I 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.320 was thinking of places to move from Perth because I 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.520 love that, I sort of did this crazy show and 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.240 then I was away from it, like I wasn't amongst 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.360 all the chaos, and I kind of like avoided all 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.840 of the controversy and all of the stuff that kind 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.200 of comes with that, which I didn't enjoy. So being 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.560 in Perth, I was away from it. But then when 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.240 I was ready to kind of come back into it, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.480 you know, I thought, Okay, well, I know I need 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.880 to be on the East Coast because it's more accessible. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.040 I feel like you get more work being on the 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.599 East Coast. I was deciding whether it was going to 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:46.720 be Sydney, Melbourne, or somewhere else. Obviously when I was 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.000 with David, it was going to be maybe Brisy, but 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.520 that wasn't something that appealed to me. And I'd been 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.039 in Melbourne quite a few times because my uncle lives there, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.280 and I loved every moment I had in Melbourne. And 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.920 then Sydney. I had once lived here before, but I 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.760 was like so young, and I didn't I didn't love 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.680 the vibe of it, like the general vibe of like 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.320 going down to my local. It just seems so transactional 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.880 and to like h superficial. And I felt like in Melbourne, 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.880 when you go to places, whether it's walking down the street, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.200 whether it's a dog park, whether it's like your local cafe. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.520 It's very personal and it feels like people don't really 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.800 care who you are, what you're doing, and where you're going. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.680 They're just like they just want to have a yarn 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.240 with you. And I love that. But in Sydney I 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.840 never got that. And every time I come here it 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.960 just feels like a work relationship. It feels like my 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.880 work girlfriend, Like I come and I go, Like. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:47.400 But now it's a bit different. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.680 It is very different because now I actually have a 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.840 girlfriend who lives in Sydney. Everyone always says, regardless of 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.640 Mia being in Sydney, everyone has always said, moved to Sydney, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.040 moved to syd and I have stood strong with the 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.480 fact that I just don't really love it. I don't 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.680 vibe it. You could sell the beaches to me. I 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.800 am a coastal girl. But I lived here for two months. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:17.720 Remember in November December last year, I partied and like, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.240 what did what you know? I was working on a film, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.280 obviously that was my focus, but I just like, I 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.440 went to the same shot coffee shop every morning, didn't 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.239 feel a vibe. I walked my dog in different places, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.040 didn't feel a vibe. Yeah, it's crazy, so like trust 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.600 your instincts. Is one know what you like and what 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.120 you want and what you want to get out of 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.520 something as well, like whether it's the location, whether it's 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.920 a career relationship, whatever it is, it's like you need 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.360 to know that it's going to be good for you, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.120 not for anyone else, just for you totally. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.400 And I've actually it's funny you say not anyone else, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.800 because I brought this conversation up to my partner and 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.040 be open to it. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.840 But I was to say, like, what is because like 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.199 in a relationship, like if I just like sprung on me, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.160 I've been like babe moving to the Gold Coast, I 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.199 feel like I would have like a bit of her 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.400 that would be like yeah, sure, but then she would 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.000 be like yah, but what of like other things that 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.280 I've got to do, Like you know, there's like a 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:17.600 whole week list totally. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.720 Well, there's things that need to be sorted out, like yeah, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.559 Denny has his own business, so he needs to figure 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.360 out like what that would look like transporting that cleaning business, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.080 you know, and and whether the work would be consistent 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.480 enough for him to stay on his feet. I also 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.280 think in a partnership, it doesn't have to be fifty 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:32.560 to fifty all the time. You know, if you're going 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.280 to move and you're the person who really wants it, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.320 you can support your partner for a little while while 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.400 they get on their feet. And that's something that I've offered. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.040 I've said, you know, if if you are brave enough 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.520 to take this step with me and you know, move 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.120 to the Gold Coast, we can test it out for 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.200 a year and see how we go. We can always 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.280 come back, you know. And you know, he has his 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.440 own business here, so it's like, if you want to 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.800 move the business, or if you want to do something 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.080 completely different, we can talk about how I can support 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.320 you in that way, you know. So I want to 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.760 be really like reportive of my partner when they're supporting 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.160 your dreams as well. So it's like, I've never felt 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.480 like it needs to be fifty to fifty. Ever, I 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:08.120 feel like it. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:08.960 Feel like it changes. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.400 It does change. Some days you will only be able 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.280 to contribute twenty and name have to do the eighty, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.560 you know. And I'm I'm finding that as I'm learning, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.720 I'm actually reading the book you gave me Eight Rules 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:19.120 of Love. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.040 Oh, okay, how are you liking it? 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.880 I'm halfway through. I'm fucking loving it. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.520 Okay, I'm so glad you finally read it. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:26.160 Oh my god. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.520 The first bit for me was like the game changer, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:29.720 like the solitude part. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.800 Yeah. The krama part for me was was like amazing day, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.440 Shetty he slapped Jay Sheddy. Yeah, like I have to 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.240 tell you this whole story about God to live show. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.439 Yeah yeah, And like Brook was, I was supposed to 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.920 go with Brook. We literally like walked past each other 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.439 at the airport, gave me the keys to a car, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.559 and I took the car and went by myself. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.960 Because why did I have to go job? 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.000 Yeah? I was going down to go to the show 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.640 with her, and then all of a sudden, she got 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.920 this last minute cour to go to a job. I 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.920 had to then go to the thing by myself. But 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.200 it was like it was that book. I don't know, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.120 It's part of my like seventy five hard challenge. I'm 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.640 just and so it's like read ten pages of the day, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.960 but I'm glued. I'm like, tell me more. I'm like 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.080 I want to know all the fuck. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.679 And you can picture him like reading it as well, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.400 which is so good. Oh, there's a few other books 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.800 that I will have to give you that. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.920 Yeah, be good for your seventy five. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.840 But is Danny doing it with you? 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.880 He's not, But he has been like on a health 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.200 kick for I want to say, like six months. He's 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.600 so determined and like we've only got our biometrics done. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.040 He's ten percent body fat, doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't do 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:41.160 anything else. Yeah, And in the biometrics his balance was 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.880 off and he's like, I'm not really good at balancing. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.160 I was like, your ten percent body fat just shut up, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.360 like it is so fine, Like, oh my. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.360 God, that's so fit, so rare. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.600 What was yours is fifteen? 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.280 Still? Like fucking closely, but I want to get it. Think, Yeah, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.280 like I think I under under what is it? 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.760 I think eighteen or twenty? Like in the good mine 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.840 is that's cot. But everyone obviously has their own challenges 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.080 with their body and weight, and you know it's not 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.680 always ten percent is their most healthful. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.800 No, But like I think that's really impressive because you 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.960 have to put in the work, which I trust. Yeah, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.640 so that's a really good motivation. I mean, I'm on 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.000 a little bit of a health kick. I could just 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.880 do something I got shortlisted. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:25.239 For imp I know, tell everyone what IMP. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:29.800 Is well, Like podcast is literally going like a rogue, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.480 but am I we meant to be talking about boundaries, mister. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.480 We'll get back there, but quickly tell me about IMP well. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.280 I applied for IMP as a I wanted a big challenge, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.840 like you know, you talk about your challenges for thirty 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.560 and being, you know, the fittest you've ever been. I 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.360 feel mentally the best I've ever felt, the happiest I've 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.800 ever felt in my body. But I wanted a big 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.040 challenge this year. And I really loved going to New 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.080 York last year and I want to go again. So 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.480 I was trying to think of opportunities or ways I 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.480 could get back there, and then IMP kind of just 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.880 popped up. Yeah, which is the Indigenous Marathon Project. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:05.120 Ye. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.240 They sponsor a squad of like ten to twelve people 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.120 maybe even a bit more to go to New York 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.720 to run the New York Marathon. But you have to 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.520 qualify in all these other times. So you have to 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.600 do a half in Alice Springs in the desert. In 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.800 the desert halfway through the year, it's sweltering, she hot, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.320 and so. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.120 You actually actually running on sand. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.880 Yeah, Yeah, that's diabetic. 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.000 That is. I tried running on the beach and one 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.319 ca is like five k's. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.760 It's well, it's like it's it's not like the hard sand, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.600 like yeah, not soft sand, but I mean you're running 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.439 in like thirty plus degrees desert. You know that heat 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:53.200 is hard. But you do so much work prior to 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.680 getting there, and then obviously all those little runs we 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.839 go to go the Gold Coast, we go to Canberra, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.800 like there's different times and runs that you have to complete, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.720 and then you get to that run and then you're like, wow, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.240 if I can do this, then I can definitely do yeah. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.959 Wow, it's like a stepping stone. So you're feeling about it, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.560 like do you feel like you're a little bit scared? 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.800 Because always it's a challenge. It is mentally I know 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.920 like I can do it. So it's a weird confidence 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.480 that I have in my head that I mentally like, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.280 I I know that it's going to be a pretty 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.760 dark place in a way when you're running, like where 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.800 you go. But I love that challenge of like the 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.000 voice in telling it to shut up constantly. I know, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:36.800 it's kind of weird. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:37.880 What helps you get through it? 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:39.040 The run? 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:44.200 Yeah, for instance, a podcast. For me, I've just listening 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.280 to a podcast or something you're really interested about. Your 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.400 hang on every word is so helpful because you're sort 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.960 of zoned in here instead of like here, you know. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.560 And so people run like a full marathon in like 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.480 three hours part like some part like that's that's a lot. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.600 That's that's really I mean, I would average, I'd say, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.280 like every ten k's, I'd give myself like an hour 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.480 to run, So I if I got four hours, I 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.560 would be I would be stoked with that, like if 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.760 I just finished it, But I would you know, that's 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.920 like four podcasts like an hour or like if you're 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.800 you know, they're our episodes. I mean hours a little 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.040 bit shorter, but like yeah, might as well watch mom, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.160 might as well watch a movie, you know. Yeah, But 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.120 I mean, like I've only run a half, Like even 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.720 in the half, I think once your body goes into 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.600 that motoring mode, like I can listen to music, sometimes 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.800 I have to just shut the music off and like 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.280 I just have to like take in the surroundings and like, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.520 but that's usually at the start, and then by then 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:51.000 you're like I need something to just counter out the 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.760 voice or it depends because I've been on runs where 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.520 it's like been five k's and my head noise is 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.480 the loudest it's ever been, and I'm like, that's not 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.560 a good day. No, that's not a good day. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:03.920 It's hard to get out of it, isn't it? 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.440 Like Yeah, and then also the adrenaline of the run. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.720 Yeah, I can really Like the last fifteen hundred meters 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.080 of a five k run, you're on like that your 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.920 sky high. Like for me the first two k's like 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.040 why the fuck am I doing this? I hate my life? 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.880 I can never I can not finish this run. You 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.640 sort of get the three k's, you're like, you know what, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.560 my body starting to kick in. I can feel like 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.480 that this is going to be okay. Then you get 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.320 to that like three point five four k mark and 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.440 you're like, I could run another five k's. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.360 You know what would be really fun if like your 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.240 friends and everyone got around and they did this voice 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.400 recording for four hours of like them just like yarning 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.240 to you and just like telling you stories or just 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.080 like cracking jokes or something. That would be so nice, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.160 wouldn't it. I just have four hours of like, oh, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.440 remember that time when we did that time you know, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.800 like just like going over like and you'd just be like, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.440 oh yeah, like laughing, I can just sad that. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.160 I think that's a great idea. I'm currently listening to 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:07.080 a podcast about addiction and recovery, so like hearing people's stories, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:11.040 and I find real life stories or people who've triumphed 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.760 through a really difficult challenge the best thing to listen 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.000 to while running, because then you're like, these people went 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.159 through so much more for me. I'm fucking running, I'm 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.960 using my legs, like my body's doing good, like I 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.679 have a great healthy body right now, so like, don't complain, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.080 get through it, you know. So it sort of motivates 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.320 me a little bit like. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.240 That, Yeah, I went down that route of like, yeah, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.760 really looking and listening to lots of trauma stories. But 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.359 I think it was quite helpful with just putting your 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.760 own life into perspective totally just being like, oh, yeah 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:51.320 that happened. Okay, next, let's get onto. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.040 What we actually were supposed to talk about. But that 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:53.680 was I love it. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.240 I know it was a very long intro. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.879 Very long intro, but let's talk about, you know, professional breakups. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.720 Something we've both been through a breakup with our managers 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.920 this year. I know that I remember us talking about 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.720 it before we did it and sort of egging each 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.280 other on a little bit, giving each other a bit 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:11.120 of courage. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.480 You know. Yeah, I was glad I had you in 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.480 that because the last time I broke up with my 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.879 manager wasn't an easy experience. I had to do it solo, 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:18.320