Speaker 1: This is the US Report with James Moroar.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming
Speaker 2: up tonight. The government shut down continues with a shock
Speaker 2: and mission about who's responsible and why, plus Trump twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight, a surprising prediction about a possible third term.
Speaker 2: Yes you heard that right, and the left loses it
Speaker 2: over the White House's new ballroom because hey, they don't
Speaker 2: have enough to be angry about already. But first, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I have words to describe what
Speaker 2: I'm about to show you here, but suffice it to
Speaker 2: say it is the absolute wildest campaign attack had I
Speaker 2: have ever seen in all of my decades watching political
Speaker 2: campaigns in an electoral race that is in some ways
Speaker 2: the most defining and fascinating race in the US at
Speaker 2: the moment. Now. The out of to show you is
Speaker 2: AI generated, of course, and it is so unbelievably over
Speaker 2: the top that barely twenty minutes after the campaign behind
Speaker 2: it put it up on the Internet, they pulled it
Speaker 2: back down. So fierce was the criticism over what they
Speaker 2: put to air. And it was generated by the campaign
Speaker 2: for Andrew Cuomo, the Democrat turned independent who is desperately
Speaker 2: hoping to keep the radical Democrat socialist Zoron mom Donnie
Speaker 2: from becoming the next mayor of New York City in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Now, I saw this ad and
Speaker 2: I thought, no way, this has to be a gop.
Speaker 2: Some edgy pranksters have come up with this and put
Speaker 2: it out there on the Cuomo's behalf. But no, no,
Speaker 2: I checked it out. It's got the official authorized by
Speaker 2: Cuomo tag at the end, and news reports have confirmed
Speaker 2: that the video was indeed a real deal product of
Speaker 2: the campaign. And because the Internet is forever well, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be able now to bring you a bit
Speaker 2: of this two minute long magnum opus of a campaign
Speaker 2: attack ad, which may as well be called Criminals for Zoron.
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of it.
Speaker 3: Zoron mom Donnie's opponents want you to believe he's an
Speaker 3: inexperienced radical whose policies will make New York City more dangerous.
Speaker 2: But what do his actual supporters think.
Speaker 4: Mom Donnie isn't crazy.
Speaker 5: He's just trying to even the play.
Speaker 6: In field, you know, give everyone a fair shot.
Speaker 2: Sure, he said multiple times we need to defund.
Speaker 4: The police, but that was just a metaphor, And yes
Speaker 4: he did.
Speaker 7: Say crime is a social construct, but that was also
Speaker 7: a metaphor.
Speaker 8: His main backer the democratic socialist ideas are common sense.
Speaker 6: Such as see criminalizing misdemeanors like shoplifting, trespassing, and drunk driving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right. I mean that's a bit chieven
Speaker 2: for me, though, I have to say the bit where
Speaker 2: he shoves a fist full of rice into his gob
Speaker 2: is a nice touch, a call out to the cringeworthy
Speaker 2: videos Mom Donnie does eating with his hands to emphasize
Speaker 2: his ethnic authenticity. But let's take a little bit more
Speaker 2: of the ad, shall we.
Speaker 6: Mom Donnie is finally lowering jail sentences guilty, but Mom
Speaker 6: Donnie says, you're free to go.
Speaker 2: Woo who cares?
Speaker 6: In Legalizing prostitution statistically leads to an increase for.
Speaker 3: Sex trafficking of women and young girls by seventy percent.
Speaker 7: You can't have safety without equality.
Speaker 6: For unlawful abiding citizens like us globalize the empty fudd.
Speaker 4: I'm a criminal, I'm a criminal. I'm a criminal.
Speaker 1: I'm a criminal.
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm a criminal for so wrong.
Speaker 9: Fizar, I'm mom Donnie. I didn't have a real job
Speaker 9: until I was thirty, but sure, give you the keys
Speaker 9: of the city.
Speaker 2: What's the worst that can happen?
Speaker 10: People?
Speaker 11: For n.
Speaker 2: Wow, how good is that? I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: to unpack here. And was the ad over the top?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 2: Was it racist like some people say, I mean the
Speaker 2: Guardian said it was, go figure, But frankly you have
Speaker 2: to admire the efforts of the producers to make sure
Speaker 2: the criminal class was shall we say, plenty diverse. Was
Speaker 2: it a sign of desperation on the part of the
Speaker 2: Cuobo camp, Well, no doubt, because all the betting markets
Speaker 2: and the polls suggest Mom Donnie's gonna roop it in.
Speaker 2: But was the ad inaccurate? Well? Look, if people are
Speaker 2: mad at it, it's not because it's wrong, but because
Speaker 2: it hits too close to home, Zorn. Mom Donnie is
Speaker 2: the distilled essence of where young radical leftism is going
Speaker 2: in America and where that force could take the wider
Speaker 2: Democrat party. Mam Donnie has said over and over and
Speaker 2: over again that he wants to yes defund the police,
Speaker 2: which is barely the worst of it. The other day,
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie himself, a Muslim, posed up with Imam Siraj
Speaker 2: Wahadge out of Brooklyn Mosque. Now normally nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 2: except for oh yeah, wah. Hodge is a legendary supporter
Speaker 2: of terrorism and was an unindicted co conspirator in the
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three plot to blow up the World Trade Center.
Speaker 2: Yet again, as I say, all the polls suggest New
Speaker 2: Yorkers are eating this up. A combination of farn born
Speaker 2: New Yorkers and Trump loathing locals seemed ready to push
Speaker 2: him over the line, and at a recent debate, Mom
Speaker 2: Donnie was ready to punch that Trump button hard. Look.
Speaker 9: Donald Trump ran on three promises. He ran on creating
Speaker 9: the single largest deportation force in American history, I'm going
Speaker 9: after his political enemies, and he ran on lowering the
Speaker 9: cost of living. If he wants to talk to me
Speaker 9: about the third piece of that agenda, I will always
Speaker 9: be ready and willing. But if he wants to talk
Speaker 9: about how to pursue the first and second piece of
Speaker 9: that agenda at the expense of New Yorkers, I will
Speaker 9: fight him every single step of the way.
Speaker 2: And oh how they cheered. And you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to think about New York, what the hell with it?
Speaker 2: Let him have it? In fact, yeah, let's do this. Now.
Speaker 2: This program is generally not in the business of making
Speaker 2: formal political endorsements, but in this case, you know what,
Speaker 2: we're going to make an exception. That's right, the US
Speaker 2: report is endorsing Democrats, Socialist and Subway Gormond Zoron Mom
Speaker 2: Donnie for mayor of New York City because you know what,
Speaker 2: this crypto Marxist who wants to destroy the city's tax
Speaker 2: base and open government run grocery stores and everything else
Speaker 2: is exactly precisely what New Yorkers and I once was
Speaker 2: myself deserve. Look here's an example of what's going on here.
Speaker 2: For years and years, African migrants had been selling knockoff handbags, trinkets,
Speaker 2: and drugs at this open air market in Canal Street
Speaker 2: in Lower Manhattan. This footage from Polego commentator Savannah Hernandez.
Speaker 2: And some of them even would go so far as
Speaker 2: to assault those who tried to film what was going on.
Speaker 2: You'd think this was a blight. You'd think New Yorkers
Speaker 2: would be grateful to the FEDS for cleaning up this.
Speaker 2: I I sore, but no. Guess what happened when ICE
Speaker 2: agents moved in to raid the markets. The other day,
Speaker 2: Well guess what, anti ICE protesters swarmed the raid, swarmed
Speaker 2: the officers and tried to block agents from arresting the illegals.
Speaker 2: And guess what. They also had a few choice words
Speaker 2: for the ICE officers charming, shrug this guy.
Speaker 12: Anymore?
Speaker 2: Say yes, how much college debt are they paying off?
Speaker 2: Then later they held a protest. Of course, well guess
Speaker 2: what Canal Street is now cleaned up? Look at that?
Speaker 2: And according to Homeland Security, the none illegal aliens arrested
Speaker 2: in the raid, some of them having violent rap sheets,
Speaker 2: including on charges including robbery, burglary, domestic violence, assaulting law enforcement, counterfeiting,
Speaker 2: drug trafficking, drug possession, and forgery. Well they're all in jail.
Speaker 2: So you know what, if New York's lefties think that
Speaker 2: having some criminal migrants selling counterfeit goods adds vibrancy to
Speaker 2: their urban miliu, I say good luck to them. Let
Speaker 2: them have their mom Donnie, and let him turn the
Speaker 2: city into exactly what they dream of, because you know,
Speaker 2: as the great H. L. Mancoln once said, democracy is
Speaker 2: the theory that the common people know what they want
Speaker 2: and deserve to get it good and hard. All right,
Speaker 2: So much to get into tonight. So let's get stuck
Speaker 2: right into it now with former White House Press Secretary
Speaker 2: Shawn Spicer. Sean, thanks for joining me. Big news just
Speaker 2: broke a couple of hours ago. Here. Former Trump's strategist
Speaker 2: Steve Bannon has made an amazing claim here that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump will be president again after twenty twenty eight. Here's
Speaker 2: what he had to say.
Speaker 8: Well, he's going to get a third term, so Trump
Speaker 8: twenty eight. Trump is going to be president in twenty eight,
Speaker 8: and people just sorted to get accommodated with that.
Speaker 1: So what about the twenty second Amendment?
Speaker 8: There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time will lay
Speaker 8: out what the plan is. But there's a plan, and
Speaker 8: President Trump will be the president in twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Now, Sean, I know we've all seen, you know, the
Speaker 2: President go around trolling people with his Trump twenty twenty
Speaker 2: eight hats. Do you think there's any real story behind this?
Speaker 13: So I gotta be honest with you. I had Steve
Speaker 13: on my show on Friday. I asked him the same question.
Speaker 13: He gave the same answer. He believes that this is
Speaker 13: going to happen. The details are what matter. Look, I
Speaker 13: have a believe that it's got to go two ways. One,
Speaker 13: there's not a legal avenue for it to happen. And secondly,
Speaker 13: and most importantly, the president Trump would want to have
Speaker 13: to do it. I think he is love being president,
Speaker 13: which is what Steve is correct about, But I have
Speaker 13: a hard time thinking that he really wants to go
Speaker 13: through this again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Look, I think I think you're you're right
Speaker 2: on that, and it is you know, he's going to
Speaker 2: be an older gentleman by this point, and it does
Speaker 2: a fairly wearying job here. So yeah, look, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think I think we have to sort of put
Speaker 2: this one in the well maybe kind of camp.
Speaker 13: But but but here's the thing, and the questioner asked
Speaker 13: the same thing I did, which is just walk me
Speaker 13: through the legal strategy. And when you tell somebody like,
Speaker 13: you know, we don't want to get into it yet,
Speaker 13: that that's telling right if you said that you believe
Speaker 13: that the constitutional amendment is dubious or there's this legal strategy, okay,
Speaker 13: but when you're not willing to reveal it. Look, Steve
Speaker 13: has been saying this very consistently. It's a smart guy.
Speaker 13: So like on that front, I do always wonder if
Speaker 13: he's got something up his sleeve. But I have not
Speaker 13: been able to find a constitutional lawyer that suggests that
Speaker 13: that's possible. It's not like he started half a term.
Speaker 13: I know there's some people who who I mean, look,
Speaker 13: I believe that he got robbed in his first term
Speaker 13: because of this whole false Russia hoax. That's neither here
Speaker 13: nor there. You can't say, well, I get a do over.
Speaker 13: So I again, until somebody I'm not a lawyer, but
Speaker 13: but until somebody makes a case, a legal case to
Speaker 13: me that is compelling, I find it a little dubious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think this is one to watch. Let's
Speaker 2: put it in keep it into the sort of the
Speaker 2: fairly dubious camp for now. But as you say, one
Speaker 2: to watch here. Hey also wanted to ask you about
Speaker 2: this here too, though, because you're a former press secretary
Speaker 2: at the White House and I want to get your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this savage takedown from Carolyn Levitt to her predecessor,
Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre, who is also I believe, out there
Speaker 2: touting in other books. Let's have a look at this. Well.
Speaker 10: With all due respect to my predecessor, she is one
Speaker 10: of the main culprits of the greatest cover up and
Speaker 10: scandal in American history. She took the podium every day
Speaker 10: and lied to the press about the incompetence of her boss.
Speaker 10: I'm very proud to work for the greatest president in history.
Speaker 10: I know Karine unfortunately worked for the most incompetent president
Speaker 10: in history. So I guess she has a reason to
Speaker 10: be bitter. But being bitter will not sell you books.
Speaker 2: And Sean Krein, Jean Pierre has been doing a great
Speaker 2: job talking about this stuff because here she was being
Speaker 2: interviewed about her cover up tactics when it came to
Speaker 2: the decline of President Biden.
Speaker 3: When we talk about the mental acuity, and again I
Speaker 3: take this very very seriously. I never saw anyone who
Speaker 3: wasn't there. I saw someone who was always engaged. I
Speaker 3: saw someone who understood policy, pushed us on the policy.
Speaker 2: Always there. Sean, what do you make of that?
Speaker 13: Well, that's a lie. But you know the reason is
Speaker 13: and and you know the marketplace, James, is what really
Speaker 13: tells you whether or not people are buying it. I
Speaker 13: want to congratulate Cring John Pierre for cracking the top
Speaker 13: twenty five thousand in book sales in her first twenty
Speaker 13: four hours. I'm not kidding when I say that most people.
Speaker 13: I remember when my first book debuted, I think I
Speaker 13: was in the top, you know, fifteen books in the country.
Speaker 13: She's in the top twenty five thousand. No one is
Speaker 13: buying the book, No one is buying the story. She
Speaker 13: is in a very tough place. Look the worst part
Speaker 13: about her She also claims she left the Democratic Party.
Speaker 13: I don't think she's sort of an island right now
Speaker 13: trying to figure out if anybody will listen to her.
Speaker 13: I think I'm actually amazed that some of these news
Speaker 13: outlets have chosen to even have her on.
Speaker 2: I mean, as a former press secretary, wouldn't it almost
Speaker 2: be better for her if she wanted to get that publicity,
Speaker 2: to come clean and say, look, this guy was a mess,
Speaker 2: we all saw it.
Speaker 13: Yeah. Look I the excerpts that I've seen of her
Speaker 13: book right now, she's in a very weird spot because
Speaker 13: she had to pick what saw who she was going
Speaker 13: to try to get on her side. She attacks sort
Speaker 13: of a lot of the Biden establishment, claiming that they
Speaker 13: were going after her as a woman of color. Anita
Speaker 13: Dunn is one of those sort of people that she
Speaker 13: really points a finger at and she talks about or leave.
Speaker 13: So I think she had to pick a side James
Speaker 13: and was like, Okay, I'm going to make sure the
Speaker 13: president knows I have his back because everybody else has
Speaker 13: thrown him under the bus, including Kamala Harris. So I'll
Speaker 13: say that he did a good and just take pot
Speaker 13: shots at the senior staff. Look bottom line, like I said,
Speaker 13: the marketplace is showing that no one cares what she
Speaker 13: has to say, never mind believes her. I think it
Speaker 13: was a cheap shot for her to really go after
Speaker 13: Caroline and call her a deplorable, which is what she
Speaker 13: was responding to in that clip that you play's She
Speaker 13: was a bad not just a bad she was probably
Speaker 13: the worst preseecretory in history. She was unqualified for that
Speaker 13: position in every sense of the way. Jensaki lied about
Speaker 13: her qualifications for it. That those guys should just walk away,
Speaker 13: they should go get a teaching job at some liberal
Speaker 13: university in America and tell war stories. But the reality
Speaker 13: is too Here's the other dirty secret that no one
Speaker 13: will ask her she talks about when she saw the president.
Speaker 13: I would challenge people to ask her a simple question,
Speaker 13: how often did you ever ever interact with President Biden
Speaker 13: during your tenure as presecretary, Because when I was pre
Speaker 13: secretary for President Trump, I bet you before noon on
Speaker 13: any given day, I interacted with him probably ten times.
Speaker 13: I have a feeling that she didn't interact with him
Speaker 13: ten times in a given week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's right. That's what everybody, all
Speaker 2: the reports all said was that, you know, all the
Speaker 2: staffers were basically kept away from the president. But before
Speaker 2: I'll let you go, we got to talk a little
Speaker 2: bit of serious news here with the government shutdown, which
Speaker 2: is now officially the second longest in history. With this stalemate, Sean,
Speaker 2: we've seen a whole bunch of fascinating things, including the
Speaker 2: President announcing that a billionaire has offered to step in
Speaker 2: and pay military salaries. Can the Democrats? Have the Democrats
Speaker 2: painted themselves into a corner with this, because of course,
Speaker 2: you know, it's their votes that are stopping the government
Speaker 2: from opening back up, not the Republicans one hundred percent.
Speaker 13: And you know, look, in the past twenty four hour,
Speaker 13: Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin offered up legislation that the
Speaker 13: Senate voted on that would pay active duty service members.
Speaker 13: And what we refer to as essential personnel, meaning the
Speaker 13: folks that are being forced to work without pay. Those
Speaker 13: are your law enforcement folks, border patrol TSA agents, flight
Speaker 13: control tower type folks, those people who are working right
Speaker 13: now without pay. Senator Johnson's bill would have said, if
Speaker 13: we're forcing you to work, which the military is as well,
Speaker 13: then you get paid. Democrats all voted in lockstep to
Speaker 13: not pay them. I believe that this is an opportunity
Speaker 13: for Republicans to step up to the plate and really
Speaker 13: paint them as the crazy nutjobs that they are, because
Speaker 13: the idea that and you hear terms from Democrats right
Speaker 13: now that said these are political stunts, right, I don't
Speaker 13: understand how it's a political stunt to pay active duty
Speaker 13: military members, border patrol TSA agents, air traffic controllers. That
Speaker 13: really shows you how little they care about these people that.
Speaker 2: They purport to support and defend. Well indeed, I mean
Speaker 2: Democrats for unpaid labor. I kind of feel like I've
Speaker 2: seen that before in the history books. Shawn Spicer, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining me as always on the
Speaker 2: US Report.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure.
Speaker 13: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Well. Thrilled to be joined now by editor at large
Speaker 2: at the Wall Street Journal and great friend of this show,
Speaker 2: Gerard Baker. Gerard, thanks for joining me here. I want
Speaker 2: to start out here by talking about the media in
Speaker 2: the US right now, and specifically what is going on
Speaker 2: at CBS now. They've recently brought in Barry Weiss to
Speaker 2: run their news division, but The New York Post has
Speaker 2: just reported that she now has to have a suite
Speaker 2: of bodyguards traveling with her now, because apparently free speech
Speaker 2: in America is such that if you question the leftist
Speaker 2: narrative or upset it all, you could wind up being
Speaker 2: in some sort of physical harm. And it brings me
Speaker 2: to a great piece you've got in the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal this week, where you talk about the broader problem
Speaker 2: with the media and the sheer horizontal and vertical reach
Speaker 2: of the progressive mindset in newsrooms, the entrenched nature of
Speaker 2: their ideological skew will militate against a successful resetting of
Speaker 2: their co How big a challenge, and I think that
Speaker 2: subs it up. But how big a challenge is Barry
Speaker 2: Wise and anybody else who wants to see fairness in
Speaker 2: the American media up against?
Speaker 1: Well, good to see you again, James, Look, I thank
Speaker 1: you very much referencing the column is the problem with
Speaker 1: the American media, and I think it's very much the
Speaker 1: same in Australia. I know it's the same in the UK.
Speaker 1: Two is not something that can be fixed by just
Speaker 1: changing the people at the top, by just ordering, you know,
Speaker 1: someone even with great power and great talent, as Barry
Speaker 1: Weiss I must say, has just ordering people to do
Speaker 1: journalism differently. It doesn't work like that. These institutions are
Speaker 1: absolutely crawling with people of a particular progressive liberal mindset.
Speaker 1: They go into journalism for that reason. They go into
Speaker 1: journalism because they kind of lean in that direction. They
Speaker 1: take over, or rather they're recruited into these large media
Speaker 1: organizations where they basically all agree with each other on
Speaker 1: all the important issues of the day. That's an entrenched
Speaker 1: situation in pretty well every major user. There are some exceptions,
Speaker 1: and indeed the only way, you know, the only way
Speaker 1: you get an exception is by actively repopulating a news
Speaker 1: organization so that it does move in a different direction.
Speaker 1: Otherwise the natural direction of these places is to go
Speaker 1: like that. So again, while I applaud what's going on
Speaker 1: in the American media, we've seen it with as you said,
Speaker 1: Barry Weise taking over at CBS. Jeff Bezos is trying
Speaker 1: to make some important changes to the Washington Post. There
Speaker 1: are some other indications that maybe other news organizations have
Speaker 1: finally woken up with the sort of woke progressive crowd
Speaker 1: and just how damaging it is. They've got an incredible
Speaker 1: task ahead of them, because it's not just many enough,
Speaker 1: as I say, to change the person at the top.
Speaker 1: They've got to change the people, They've got to change
Speaker 1: the culture. It's really it's a social problem as much
Speaker 1: as anything. James and I just don't see these institutions
Speaker 1: changing very quickly, very soon.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we have the Australian Broadcast in corporation here,
Speaker 2: which is like the BBC, and it's often called like
Speaker 2: a staff run collective and when we put conservatives onto
Speaker 2: the board that it makes very little difference. And I'm
Speaker 2: wondering how much of this is really you know, as
Speaker 2: you say cultural, does this need to actually be a
Speaker 2: whole of society effort that universities need to start, you know,
Speaker 2: being more diverse in their ideological outlook because I think
Speaker 2: what about ninety five percent probably of professors and most
Speaker 2: disciplines vote Democrat.
Speaker 1: Now right, Yeah, it's got worse over the last twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years. Exactly right, James, And the numbers we've seen
Speaker 1: actually are precisely in line with what you mentioned. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does require a much broader social change. I also
Speaker 1: wonder a little bit. Look, I think there is some
Speaker 1: there is a kind of natural selection, if I may
Speaker 1: sort of misuse that Darwini internal a little bit that
Speaker 1: goes on because I think people who are people who
Speaker 1: are sort of concerned pe people who want to make money,
Speaker 1: people want to go into business, People who are entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: who believe in free markets because they're going to thrive
Speaker 1: in free markets. They tend to be They tend to
Speaker 1: be conservative. They tend to go and do that very thing.
Speaker 1: They tend to go and be entrepreneurs, make money, go
Speaker 1: into business and do world for themselves. You know, I
Speaker 1: speak very much, very self aware here as I say this,
Speaker 1: People who maybe don't want to do that, don't have
Speaker 1: that interest. And actually, you know, I'm more interested in
Speaker 1: if you like criticizing and analyzing and commenting. They tend
Speaker 1: more to be on the left. They're not they don't
Speaker 1: have the wherewith all the talent, the interests, the initiative
Speaker 1: to go into business, and they don't tend to be
Speaker 1: conservative and they end up running, you know, working for
Speaker 1: the ABC or the BBC or pretty well every major
Speaker 1: media organization here in the US. So it is things
Speaker 1: can change. Certainly, you're right about universities. But I do
Speaker 1: also think there probably just is a again an almost
Speaker 1: natural process by which people you know, he was the
Speaker 1: old phrase and we had in England, he who can
Speaker 1: does he who cannot teach? As well? You know the phrase,
Speaker 1: you know, he who can does he who cannot? Reports
Speaker 1: on it?
Speaker 2: Well, yes, indeed, indeed, Hey, you're in New York City
Speaker 2: right now, and I want to just talk and just
Speaker 2: indulge me on this for a while, because I've been
Speaker 2: absolutely fascinated by the zoron Mam Dami campaign here and
Speaker 2: the atmospherics that are there. Just tell us a little
Speaker 2: bit about what it's like there. Because I spoke earlier
Speaker 2: in the program about this Canal Street clean up. Canal
Speaker 2: Street has that huge sort of open air market of
Speaker 2: you know, fake handbags and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: New Yorkers, at least some seem to be very annoyed
Speaker 2: that the Fed's cleaned that up. What is happening on
Speaker 2: the streets. What's happening in New York that you know,
Speaker 2: there's this great sort of engine of capitalism has become
Speaker 2: enthralled to this democrat socialist.
Speaker 1: Now you're not changing the times you've been in. New
Speaker 1: York City is a mess. It's still a great city,
Speaker 1: you know, reasonable claims to be one of the greatest
Speaker 1: cities in the world, if not the greatest.
Speaker 7: City in the world.
Speaker 1: It has incredible, you know, arts and entertainment, it has
Speaker 1: tremendous economic dynamism, still the sort of financial capital of
Speaker 1: the world. There's all those things going for it. But
Speaker 1: it's a mess. The city is a mess. A number
Speaker 1: of homeless people is shocking. The crime well, not as
Speaker 1: bad as it was back in nineteen nineties and I
Speaker 1: remember that period. Well, it's still bad. The streets are
Speaker 1: filled with rats and the sort of sweet, pungent smell
Speaker 1: of urine pretty well everywhere there is and if it's
Speaker 1: not urine, it's weed. And as you say, there's crime,
Speaker 1: there's tremendous number of illegal immigrants which previous administrations have
Speaker 1: allowed in to the country and housed in hotels at
Speaker 1: great expense. It is a mess. It's an enormous mess.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: Ice doing what they were doing, and as you say,
Speaker 1: remember what you have here is a population that like
Speaker 1: that has essentially luxury beliefs, right, these are most for
Speaker 1: the most part, the people who object to ICE doing
Speaker 1: their job or law enforcement doing his job generally are
Speaker 1: people who are not really affected by crime or homelessness
Speaker 1: or the sheer unpleasantness the streets. They drive around, they're
Speaker 1: driven around in limousines or you know, they live in
Speaker 1: parts of town where they never have to see these things,
Speaker 1: and they're happy to, of course, continue to vote for
Speaker 1: you know, liberal leaders like this guy Mamdani that the
Speaker 1: socialist leader were going to get like this guy at
Speaker 1: Mamdani that were Almos certainly going to get elected in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And they don't have to because
Speaker 1: they don't actually see the problems. And I think that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's the peril with so many of
Speaker 1: these cities, like New York, London, where I've just been
Speaker 1: in London. London is much the same. You know, there
Speaker 1: are many urban problems, but they have a kind of
Speaker 1: political culture whereby those people again who don't really have
Speaker 1: to face those urban problems are kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: happy to inflict continue to inflict them on the people
Speaker 1: who do have to deal with them by continuing to
Speaker 1: vote in left wing political leaders.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Look, I lived there in the nineteen nineties myself.
Speaker 2: I remember how bad it was and how good it
Speaker 2: was when Rudi Giuliani finally started to clean up the mess. Hey, finally,
Speaker 2: I just want to talk about a bit of foreign
Speaker 2: policy here with you too. And I thought this was
Speaker 2: very interesting, this intervention that Vice President j. D. Vass
Speaker 2: made into a vote in Israel's Kanesset where they were
Speaker 2: talking about nexing the West Bank. Here's a little bit
Speaker 2: of JD vance.
Speaker 6: That's when I asked about it. Somebody told me that
Speaker 6: it was a political stunt, that it had no practical significance,
Speaker 6: it was purely symbolic. I mean, look, if it was
Speaker 6: a political stunt, it was a very stupid political stunt,
Speaker 6: and I personally take some insult to it. The West
Speaker 6: Bank is not going to be anexed by Israel. The
Speaker 6: policy of the Trump administration is that the West Bank
Speaker 6: will not be nx by Israel. That will continue to
Speaker 6: be our policy and if people want to take symbolic votes,
Speaker 6: they can do that, but we certainly weren't happy about it.
Speaker 2: Just quickly here, does this show that there's a bit
Speaker 2: of impatience with Israel on their side of the peace
Speaker 2: deal and the ceasefire?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a little bit. I mean, we've seen
Speaker 1: this with Trump. Trump was very unhappy with Natthagna who's
Speaker 1: attack on Doham Kata but failed attempt to kill how
Speaker 1: much leaders there a few weeks ago that I think
Speaker 1: accelerated the peace process and certainly pushed Trump towards are
Speaker 1: getting more actively involved and getting that done. He doesn't
Speaker 1: like this talk at this to be fair, is these
Speaker 1: sort of religious parties in Israel, you know, who can
Speaker 1: claim that the West Bank is jude and Samaria and
Speaker 1: they want to reclaim it for Jews and for Israel,
Speaker 1: and as Vance says, that's not going to happen. There
Speaker 1: is impatience, but at the same time, there's also an
Speaker 1: awareness here that, look, the Israelis did agree to that
Speaker 1: cease fire. What you're seeing is violence, continued violence carrying
Speaker 1: on in Gaza, Palestine led by Hamas, and so there's
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's continuing support for Israel. There's no
Speaker 1: question I think Donald Trump is one of it. Is
Speaker 1: probably the most pro Israel leader that the United States
Speaker 1: has had for at least fifty years. So there's no
Speaker 1: question that there is that support there. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, they don't want to see what jade Evan's
Speaker 1: rightly calls stunts like this which could damage the peace process. Look,
Speaker 1: above all else, Trump wants there to be peace. He
Speaker 1: wants the fighting to end, you know, another notch on
Speaker 1: his belt in the campaign for the Nobel Peace Prize. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and anything that makes that more, anything that something more difficult, he's.
Speaker 4: Going to oppose.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, right, Jard Baker, thank you so much for your time,
Speaker 2: as always, love your stuff in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: Now stick around because in a moment, Brandon Lyman is
Speaker 2: going to join me to talk more about the latest
Speaker 2: debate between Mom Donnie and Andrew Cuomo. You're not going
Speaker 2: to want to miss those fireworks. But before we hit
Speaker 2: a break, check this out. Remember those No King's protests
Speaker 2: last week, Well, this guy just decided to have a
Speaker 2: little fun with them by driving up to one in
Speaker 2: a giant cyber truck with a speaker in the back
Speaker 2: playing Donald Trump's twenty twenty four victory speech for all
Speaker 2: the No King's protesters to enjoy and grandly.
Speaker 11: This is, I believe the greatest possible political movements of
Speaker 11: all time.
Speaker 13: There's ever been anything like this in this time.
Speaker 9: And maybe be hon.
Speaker 11: And now it's going to read a new level of important.
Speaker 11: It is because we're going to help our country here,
Speaker 11: help our country here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at all those very normal protesters out there.
Speaker 2: They seem thrilled with it. No accounting for taste. Brianna
Speaker 2: Liman after the break, Welcome back to the program. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be joined now by the Federalists Elections
Speaker 2: correspondent Brianna Liman. Brianna, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 2: me here on the US Report tonight. And I want
Speaker 2: to talk about, first of all, what I think is
Speaker 2: one of the most important stories in American politics right now.
Speaker 2: That is the New York City mayoral race. And it
Speaker 2: got very fiery in a debate between the Democrat turned
Speaker 2: independent Andrew Cuomo, the Democrat socialist front runner Zoron mam Dami,
Speaker 2: and the Republican candidate Curtis Sliwa at a debate the
Speaker 2: other night. Have a little Look, here's a bit of
Speaker 2: a sample of that.
Speaker 9: We desperately need to build more how in the city,
Speaker 9: and I also know that the jobs we create in
Speaker 9: the building of that housing should be good jobs as well.
Speaker 11: Answer, what is your opinion?
Speaker 2: Come on, yes, Born, what is your opinion?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 2: No, so true? Thank you?
Speaker 12: Apologies.
Speaker 14: Yet here they're pointing out what I was about the question.
Speaker 9: I think on the stage you can see two people
Speaker 9: appealing for the Republican parties.
Speaker 2: Do it, And as a New Yorker, I love how
Speaker 2: fiery it got there. But Brianna, is anything that's going
Speaker 2: to happen in this race change the outcome, which is
Speaker 2: going to be this democrat, socialist hard leftist is going
Speaker 2: to wind up taking over arguably the most important city
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Unfortunately, the only thing that could be a possible
Speaker 7: saving Greece. And I mean this is still a long shot.
Speaker 7: It's for Curtis Lee want to drop out that voters
Speaker 7: can call us around Andrew Cuomo. The New York Post
Speaker 7: had a recent poll come out. It showed that if
Speaker 7: it's a two way race, Andrew Cuomo trels by like
Speaker 7: somewhere between like five to six percent behind Mom Donnie.
Speaker 7: But what was interesting about that poll is seventy eight
Speaker 7: percent of undecided voters are fifty five or older. There
Speaker 7: is a really good chance and if you're fifty five
Speaker 7: or older, you're not voting for socialists like Mom, Donnie,
Speaker 7: you are voting for Andrew Cuomo. And if we make
Speaker 7: it a binary choice, I do think it gives Cuomo
Speaker 7: that extra edge that could possibly deliver him a slim victory.
Speaker 7: But as things stand now, we're going to have a
Speaker 7: socialist mayor.
Speaker 2: It seems absolutely shocking to be But what also shocked me,
Speaker 2: and I spoke about this earlier in the program, is
Speaker 2: the way that Mom Dalli has used anti Trump sentiment
Speaker 2: in New York to Leaveridge himself into this position. Here
Speaker 2: there was this cleanup of all of the vendors, illegal aliens,
Speaker 2: illegal migransom Africa on Canal Street, and New Yorkers didn't say, oh,
Speaker 2: thank you federal government for cleaning up this. Iyesare that
Speaker 2: the New York police left there for years. No, they
Speaker 2: went out in protest. I mean, do New Yorkers just
Speaker 2: get what they deserve at this point? Oh?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? And I mean this ties into the national conversation.
Speaker 7: We're having over here, which is Democrats are the party
Speaker 7: that stands against the rule of law. ICE agents are
Speaker 7: enforcing long standing federal immigration law. If Democrats don't like
Speaker 7: the law, that means they don't like sovereignty. But if
Speaker 7: they don't like the law, they should try to win
Speaker 7: a big enough majority to change the law. But until then,
Speaker 7: ICE is enforcing long standing federal immigration law. And polling
Speaker 7: indicates Americans want illegal aliens out, whether they are violent
Speaker 7: or not. We want them gone. And the fact that
Speaker 7: some of these aliens have been here for years, some
Speaker 7: of them had previous removal orders just goes to show
Speaker 7: you how Democrats in particular have turned a blind eye
Speaker 7: to the biggest crisis facing America right now.
Speaker 2: And you know, just on that whole idea of enforcing
Speaker 2: the law, it seems like the Democrats have a real
Speaker 2: selective enforcement problem here too, because you know, they're the
Speaker 2: first people to regulate our lives, law abiding citizens' lives,
Speaker 2: you know, regulate how we use our energy, regulate this
Speaker 2: our businesses and everything like that like that. The phrase
Speaker 2: anarcho tyranny is something that we hear sometimes, and it
Speaker 2: seems like this is what we saw in California, and
Speaker 2: this is what's coming to New York. And this is
Speaker 2: going to be what whoever the Republican nominee in twenty
Speaker 2: eight is going to have to run against because they'll say,
Speaker 2: don't do this to the rest of America.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 7: Think, you know California, look to Portland for example, what
Speaker 7: the anarcho tyranny we're seeing there. And Democrats have decided
Speaker 7: to make that as though that is a peaceful protest,
Speaker 7: They're trying to turn it into a First Amendment argument.
Speaker 7: But Americans voted for President Trump for many reasons, but
Speaker 7: one of the big ones was law and order. Nobody
Speaker 7: wants to see a repeat of twenty twenty with the
Speaker 7: riots right the summer of love that we had, and
Speaker 7: the fact that Docrats are not willing to listen to
Speaker 7: the entire country which shifted right in November, and instead
Speaker 7: try to double down that these are peaceful protests, that
Speaker 7: we can enforce the law because they're fighting the good fight.
Speaker 7: It's going to turn away voters come twenty twenty six
Speaker 7: and twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's right. And another thing that
Speaker 2: I think voters are going to get pretty sick of too,
Speaker 2: is this government shutdown which is continuing here. And there
Speaker 2: was an amazing admission from Democrat House Whip Catherine Clark
Speaker 2: talking about how struggling families are actually now political leverage
Speaker 2: in the negotiations. How will listen to this?
Speaker 12: I mean, shutdowns are terrible, and of course there will
Speaker 12: be you know, families that are going to suffer. We
Speaker 12: take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of
Speaker 12: the few leverage times we have.
Speaker 2: I mean talking about beatings will continue until morale improves. Here.
Speaker 2: This idea that you just use struggling families to make
Speaker 2: a political point, this must be backfiring on them, surely.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's easy for her to say that
Speaker 7: when her paychecks still keeps coming. Notice she has and
Speaker 7: said she's not going to take it anything like that. Surprisingly,
Speaker 7: Democrats haven't faced nearly as much pushback as they should.
Speaker 7: And I think it's part and parcel because the propaganda
Speaker 7: press is doing their bidding. The Democratic media is trying
Speaker 7: to make this as though it is a Republican shutdown.
Speaker 7: I don't think voters are necessarily buying into that, especially
Speaker 7: when you have people like Senator John Fetterman and Democrat
Speaker 7: from Pennsylvania calling out his own party for holding Americans
Speaker 7: and families hostage. But so the reason that I think
Speaker 7: it's going to keep going is until there is enough
Speaker 7: public and media pressure on Democrats to open the government
Speaker 7: with a clean cr they're going to dig their heels
Speaker 7: and they're going to keep using American families as hostages
Speaker 7: and political pawns, all because they want to give illegal
Speaker 7: aliens fore healthcare.
Speaker 2: And this is just something to bring our Australian viewers
Speaker 2: up to speed on to pass that vote, to pass
Speaker 2: that continuing resolution to keep the government funded, they need
Speaker 2: sixty votes, not a majority of fifty one to make
Speaker 2: that happen. So that's why the Democrats can still hold
Speaker 2: the government to hostage on this here. But finally, before
Speaker 2: I let you go, we talk a lot about political
Speaker 2: violence on this show and the threat of it coming
Speaker 2: particularly from the left. Will turns out, Republican Senator Eric
Speaker 2: Schmidt has maybe heard this call because he's going to
Speaker 2: be sharing a hearing next week on this threat. Here's
Speaker 2: a little bit of what he had to say on
Speaker 2: the matter.
Speaker 15: And so we're going to have a hearing on it.
Speaker 15: We're going to have Michael Miles come testify who was
Speaker 15: a victim of a firebombing himself, of what's really behind
Speaker 15: all this and what are the strategies moving forward. We
Speaker 15: need to go at this thing and be aggressive, not
Speaker 15: just play defense, but play offense, because this is a
Speaker 15: real threat to our country and the fabric of our
Speaker 15: constitutional republic.
Speaker 2: Brianna, what are we expecting to get out of this?
Speaker 2: Will we find out that there are big money donors,
Speaker 2: including some that might be quite familiar to our viewers,
Speaker 2: behind some of these groups that are funding so much
Speaker 2: of the mayhem in American streets.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the purpose of this hearing is going
Speaker 7: to be to thread that needle, particularly of George Soros,
Speaker 7: someone who donates millions of dollars to organizations like Indivisible,
Speaker 7: which was behind the No Kings protests, other organizations that
Speaker 7: have really propped up these protests that also happened to
Speaker 7: turn violent. And this is an opportunity right now, Republicans
Speaker 7: have one year in case we end up losing the House,
Speaker 7: they have one year to get and come to terms
Speaker 7: with who was funding these protests. Right people show up
Speaker 7: with the signs, they all look the same. You're telling
Speaker 7: me a thousand people got together and made the same signs.
Speaker 7: Of course, not right. There's so many backing these fundings.
Speaker 7: If you're backing a peaceful protest, fine, but these never
Speaker 7: turn out to be peaceful in the most part. And
Speaker 7: we know that political violence in America is coming from
Speaker 7: the left to the right. We have to figure out
Speaker 7: is that organized? Is this part of a larger plan?
Speaker 2: Brianna, You're absolutely right. I think there's a lot more
Speaker 2: to it, and I'm looking to find out what looking
Speaker 2: forward to finding out what that is. Brand A Laman,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me tonight. Check out
Speaker 2: her stuff at the Federalist. Now stick around because in
Speaker 2: a moment, great friend of the show, John fund will
Speaker 2: be joining me. But first seen by now the pictures
Speaker 2: of Barack Obama's planned presidential library in Chicago. There it is.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, wait, sorry, that's a North Korean
Speaker 2: guard tower. Let's try again. Here we go. Oh no, no, sorry,
Speaker 2: that's the Death Star under construction. One more try. Oh
Speaker 2: there it is. Yes, I knew we'd get there eventually,
Speaker 2: and I know it looks like something that was constructed
Speaker 2: in a remote Soviet Republican about nineteen seventy two. But anyway,
Speaker 2: You'll never guess who else thinks it's ugly. Yep, you
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 13: You're building your ballroom right now.
Speaker 9: They're also building the Obama Presidential Library.
Speaker 7: I'm wondering if you can see have you seen the
Speaker 7: issures of the architecture, And yeah, it's not.
Speaker 11: Too pretty, but it's.
Speaker 2: Drumst it stopped.
Speaker 11: They ran out of money. Means building a library slash museum.
Speaker 11: You know you call some museums and usually they they
Speaker 11: call it library and museum.
Speaker 9: That's the official name.
Speaker 11: And this up and he wanted only women and DEEI
Speaker 11: to build it.
Speaker 13: You have that's what they got.
Speaker 2: Also, did I mention it's ugly? Yeah, really ugly. Anyway,
Speaker 2: stick around because John Fund is with me after the break,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. Well, it's always a great
Speaker 2: privilege to bring in my next guest, political journalist, John Fund. John,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining me on the US sport
Speaker 2: And I want to start out here with the US
Speaker 2: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the hardest working man in
Speaker 2: show business, who had this great response as it was
Speaker 2: revealed that the US allegedly struck the eighth drug carrying
Speaker 2: boat in its interdiction efforts this time in the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 4: These are drug votes.
Speaker 8: If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up,
Speaker 8: stop sending drugs to the United States.
Speaker 2: Not a bad response. Tell us about this effort to
Speaker 2: take out these drug voats, because Donald Trump has also said,
Speaker 2: you know you're smuggling drugs and that are going to
Speaker 2: kill Americans, We're going to kill you. How is this
Speaker 2: being received.
Speaker 4: Well, those who practice international law, of course, are appalled.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, international law has some weaknesses. It
Speaker 4: doesn't really apply very well to a terrorist organization that
Speaker 4: is trying to subvert the society of another country, and
Speaker 4: that's what Venezuelan drug shipments are all about. So this
Speaker 4: is a gray area. And what the President has decided
Speaker 4: to do is to say, look, we get no cooperation
Speaker 4: from the Venezuelans. They're not interdicting their own shipments. In fact,
Speaker 4: that Venezuelan military is probably in charge of shipping this
Speaker 4: stuff over and therefore we're going to take targeted measures
Speaker 4: to make sure that the cartels that are sending these
Speaker 4: drugs in get the message as to how dangerous this
Speaker 4: procedure is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. It's a lot different to being potentially interdicted
Speaker 2: by the cops and put through the courts and all
Speaker 2: of that. But let's go from one sec of state
Speaker 2: to another, Hillary Clinton, who has weighed in on this
Speaker 2: apparently quite controversial project to construct a ballroom on the
Speaker 2: site of the East Wing of the White House, writing
Speaker 2: on X it's not his house, it's your house, and
Speaker 2: he's destroying it. John. Doesn't Hillary Clinton know how many
Speaker 2: other presidents have done renovations to the White House and
Speaker 2: she would have been at quite a few events where
Speaker 2: they had to set up tents and so on on
Speaker 2: the lawn because they don't have a dedicated events space
Speaker 2: at the White House. Can you weigh in on this
Speaker 2: controversy for me?
Speaker 4: Well, I personally know how much Hillary Clinton loved the
Speaker 4: White House when she lived there because when she left,
Speaker 4: she took a bunch of furniture with her to chat
Speaker 4: about where her new house was and she had to
Speaker 4: later return it. So she clearly loves the White House.
Speaker 4: And as for other presidents, Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman very
Speaker 4: popular presidents with the Washington establishment. Barack Obama had had
Speaker 4: a fifteen million dollar renovation of the East Wing and
Speaker 4: he did tear down things with bill dozers So the
Speaker 4: point is, it's not that the renovation is being done because,
Speaker 4: as you say, putting up tents every time there is
Speaker 4: any dinner party over about one hundred people is very
Speaker 4: cumbersome and off putting. So the ballroom will be used
Speaker 4: by future presidents. In fact, it probably won't be done
Speaker 4: until after the next president takes office. As a result,
Speaker 4: the ballroom is going to be used by everybody. It's
Speaker 4: being paid for it by private funds, and it's there's
Speaker 4: a tradition that the White House has to grow with
Speaker 4: the extent of its responsive social responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, as you said, I mean Nixon
Speaker 2: put in a bowling alley. Somebody else put in a
Speaker 2: swimming pool. I forget who this, Jni Kennedy, John F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy put in the pool. That's right, and they would
Speaker 2: have had to do a lot of digging for that
Speaker 2: as well. It's just unbelievable how much outrages there is here.
Speaker 2: But hey, I want to talk now about what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. You say, talking about the future next occupant
Speaker 2: of the White House, Well, that could be Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 2: California governor, but he's suffering a setback in some of
Speaker 2: the early polling. According to the Noble Predictive Insights Poll,
Speaker 2: God help Me, Kamala Harris is now at thirty three percent,
Speaker 2: with Gavin Newsom at thirteen with AOC and that Transport
Speaker 2: Secretary guy Pete Budajet following up behind. Now, what is
Speaker 2: happening here? Is there a chance actually that the Democrats
Speaker 2: might go with Kamala or is this just some noise
Speaker 2: around her book tour and all of that.
Speaker 4: Well, that would be an interesting choice because one party
Speaker 4: would be cheering and the other party would be crying,
Speaker 4: and you can guess which would be which.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I suppose, I suppose that that's right. But
Speaker 2: do you think in other words.
Speaker 4: They would say, they would say bring it on, please,
Speaker 4: let's have a rematch.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, you know, look, on this show,
Speaker 2: we completely endorse Kamala Harris being the Democrat nomany. We think.
Speaker 4: I'm a Californian, I know Kamala and I think she
Speaker 4: needs she deserves the stage.
Speaker 2: Look, I think so let's all get behind the draft
Speaker 2: Kamala movement greed completely. I think we're in furious agreement
Speaker 2: on that one. Hey, onto just the border issues here,
Speaker 2: our old friend borders are. Tom Homan has said that
Speaker 2: he wants ICE to deport more than six hundred thousand
Speaker 2: illegal aliens by the end of the year. Now this
Speaker 2: comes as the Trump administration said that one point six
Speaker 2: million migrants undocument migrants have voluntarily self deported. Now this
Speaker 2: is interesting to me because some of these numbers, they're
Speaker 2: actually lower than what Barack Obama was racking up when
Speaker 2: he was president, and yet there's much more outrage about
Speaker 2: all of this. Walk us through the politics of why
Speaker 2: the Democrats are so absolutely wedded to illegal migration as
Speaker 2: almost a holy writ for them.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, a lot of the the numbers
Speaker 4: are spongy. I don't know how you properly count how
Speaker 4: many people have self voluntarily left the country. I think
Speaker 4: that that's so with Obama's numbers. We knew that there
Speaker 4: were a lot of deportations. We certainly know there are
Speaker 4: a lot of deportations. Now, I think that the immigration
Speaker 4: procedures have to be targeted first at criminals, not breaking
Speaker 4: up families arbitrarily, and encouraging people with the thousand dollars
Speaker 4: of the two thousand dollars that they're given to leave
Speaker 4: of their own volition. Now, how successful is that going
Speaker 4: to be successful enough? Because a lot of people are
Speaker 4: just going to realize if they have the assurance and
Speaker 4: they do that, should they should they voluntarily leave the country,
Speaker 4: that does not mean they won't be allowed back in
Speaker 4: in the future if they follow the legal procedures. That's
Speaker 4: the key. So I think we have to give people
Speaker 4: an incentive to go the legal route rather than just
Speaker 4: throwing them out. It has to be a combination of
Speaker 4: carrots and sticks.
Speaker 2: Fair Enough, fair Enough makes a lot of sense. John
Speaker 2: fun thanks for joining me here on the Wester Report,
Speaker 2: and I stick round because Only in America is coming
Speaker 2: up next. But before we go to that, let's get
Speaker 2: a bit more wisdom from someone who I think is
Speaker 2: probably the smartest guy in the Democrat Party. If you
Speaker 2: have a guest, yep, I'm talking about Senator John Fetterman
Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania explaining where Kamala Harris went wrong. And I
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of possibilities, but I think he's
Speaker 2: onto something here.
Speaker 14: I don't know why, and I've always refused to say that.
Speaker 14: And when then the Vice President Harris referred to President
Speaker 14: Trump as a fascist, and I knew absolutely we lost
Speaker 14: the plot at that point. You know, if you call
Speaker 14: the president or someone like a fascist, you're effectively calling
Speaker 14: the people that are going to vote for him. And
Speaker 14: then then they must be fascist too, or they ford
Speaker 14: and then excuse me, they support fascism in those things,
Speaker 14: and that's just not true.
Speaker 7: That's just not it.
Speaker 2: Behold this political genius. Don't call half the country fascist,
Speaker 2: and maybe I don't know, some of them will vote
Speaker 2: for you. Absolutely wild. Anyway, stick around because Only in
Speaker 2: America is next. Welcome back to the program, and now
Speaker 2: it's time for a little segment we like to call
Speaker 2: Only in America. Right Well, Portland, Oregon. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a bit of a dispute here over the place that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump calls a war zone, but Democrats say, oh,
Speaker 2: everything is perfectly fine there. Well, why don't we throw
Speaker 2: this over to you, British travel blogger Will Bailey, to
Speaker 2: settle the bet over whether or not Portland is heaven
Speaker 2: or hell. Over to you, sir.
Speaker 5: If you don't know me, my name is Will, and
Speaker 5: I'm about to explain to you what's happened in the
Speaker 5: first forty eight hours since we've got here. We decided
Speaker 5: to start our US tour in the city of Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 2: And how did it go, mister Bailey.
Speaker 5: We couldn't have made a bigger mistake if we tried.
Speaker 5: This city is far from safe. Crime and homelessness dominates
Speaker 5: this area, and this is something we've experienced firsthand since
Speaker 5: being here. On our second night, we were woken up
Speaker 5: to siren's shouting and three loud gunshots. This was just
Speaker 5: the cherry on the cape. It's almost impossible to feel
Speaker 5: safe here, and I am by no means incapable of
Speaker 5: defending myself. But sometimes it's just best to get out
Speaker 5: of a situation where you can. We're already making arrangements
Speaker 5: to leave this city and find somewhere a lot more secure.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that just about settles it. That's a
Speaker 2: point to mister Trump said in the National Guard. And
Speaker 2: that's all the time we have for this week. See
Speaker 2: you next time. Bye bye,