1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Fighting in the Middle East widened with twelve countries including 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: the UK, drawn into the conflict as oil prices surge. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: The February reporting season wraps up and analysts say it 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: was one of the strongest in recent years, and Parliament 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: returns to Candra as Anthony Oveneazy and Jim Chalmers celebrate birthdays. 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Plus Ampole may need to offload more than fifty service 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: stations to push through a merger deal, and Survivor, the 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: reality TV show, celebrates fifty seasons. It is Tuesday, the 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: third of March twenty twenty six. I'm Michael Thompson and 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: good morning, Sean Aylmer. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael, Sean. 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: The main story this morning, Fighting in the Middle East 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: has widened, with a dozen countries drawn into the conflict 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: that began when the US and Israel attacked Iran, killing 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: that country's supreme leader. Bombs continue to rain down in 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Iran and parts of Israel, while the UN reported its 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: first casualties. Oil prices surged yesterday, meaning we can expect 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: higher prices at the bowser in coming weeks. US President 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said his country would avenge the death of 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: three servicemen, and the conflicts could go on for another 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: four weeks. We've seen video footage now that shows massive 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: explosions across Tehran, the capital of Iran, and US Central 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: Command says that it had struck more than one thousand 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: targets in the country over forty eight hours, just to 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: give you an idea of the scale of this, and 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: more than two hundred people were killed. The Australian government 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: has said that it supports the action of the US, 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: adding that it stands with the Iranian people, but Defense 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Minister Richard Males said we did not provide any practical support. 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: It does seem that the timing of the attack over 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: the weekend surprised many countries. While planning has been going 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: on for weeks. A gathering of Supreme Leader Aetola Ali 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: Jamini and other figures gave the US and Israel an 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: opening to attack. They took it. The action has sent 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: the region into war and Lebanon residents awoke to the 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: sound of explosions after Israel conducted retaliatory strikes against tes 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Berlaf figures based in that country. Air strikes hit several 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: suburbs of Beirut now. Israel's military said it had conducted 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: strikes and senior hes Balaf figures. Bahrain's military said it 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: has intercepted Iranian mischele missiles and drones in its airspace. 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Bahrain hosts the US's fifth Fleet. Qatar told its residents 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: to remain indoors except for cases of absolute necessity, and 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: to stay away from windows and exposed areas. Qatar hosts 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: the largest US military base in the Middle East. 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: This is one of those situations that is just constantly evolving, 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: and this is unfolding kind of in real time, and 48 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: over the last kind of twenty four hours we've seen 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Britain Britain's Royal Air Force Base Akriti hit by a 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: suspected drone strike, according to sky News. The UK's Ministry 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: of Defense since confirmed that there were no casualties in 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the incident, which unfolded at the base near Limasol in Cyprus. 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: That's right. The UAE said it had been targeted with 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: ballistic missiles and drones, with at least three people having 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: been killed. Kuwait was also targeted. Aman, which does not 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: host US Basis, was also hit, though Iran's Foreign ministry 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: said that was a mistake. The incident raises questions about 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: how much control of the government now in the country 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: of Iran has over the military and has over the 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: Islamic Revolutionary Guards. 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Now, flights in and out of the Middle East remain affected. Eddie, Had, 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Katar and Emirates all suspending services. Virgin Australia has canceled 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: international flights, while Quantas said there's been no impact to 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: its flights, including between Singapore and London eleven percent. It's 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: an incredible figure. Eleven percent of all international travel out 66 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: of Australia last year passed through the Middle East. That 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of flights and routes affected. 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Lertly now, all prices jumped thirteen percent yesterday that they 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: fell back to be trading about seven percent higher thereabout. 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: So it's sort of seventy six seventy seven, seventy eight 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: dollars a barrel that'll feed through two petrol prices locally. 72 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: The big question is how long this Strait of Homuz 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: will be closed. It transports about twenty percent of the 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: world's oil. If it stays closed for a long time, 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: then certainly energy prices, including petrol prices will jump. Gold 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: also rose yesterday, it's trading around forty three fifty US 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: dollars announced at the moment that is likely to stay 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: elevated for some time. 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: What about the local impact here Sean, Because the local 80 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: share market fell yesterday, though not actually significantly, the falls 81 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: across the market seem to be cushioned by a surge 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: in energy and gold stocks. The critical question I suppose 83 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: for investors is just how long the conflict will last 84 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: and as a result of it, what will happen to 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: energy prices. 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: By the closed yesterday, the mark was actually flat like 87 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: quite remarkable. No surprises in terms of the stocks. When up, 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: companies like Woodside, Santos, Creon Energy all jumped. The gold diggers, Newmont, 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Northern Star, Revolution Mining, they all did well. Drone Sheild, 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: the counter doone Solutions group, it jumped seven percent. On 91 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: the flip side, Quantus down five percent, Flight Center lost 92 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: six percent. Where travel was lowered, the banks will lower, 93 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: the text sectors will lower. As I said, By the 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: closed yes and PA six two hundred was flat at 95 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: about nine two hundred and one points. It'll be interesting 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: to see kind of what happens this morning given Wall 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: Street last night. 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, now moving away from the conflict and its consequences, 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: but staying in market. Sean, the February reporting season is now. 100 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Officially I've hardly remembered. 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: It feels like a long time ago now, doesn't it. 102 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: But earning speeds outnumbered misses by two to one based 103 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: on UBS numbers, while guidance upgrades exceeded down aids by 104 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: three to one. It's pretty extraordinary. Twelve asx one hundred 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: companies moved by more than ten percent on results days. 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Talking about volatility and AI investments by companies like Commonwealth Bank, 107 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Telstra and Woolies look to be paying dividends. 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: And that's why the AX hit a new record three 109 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: times last week. Michael. Some of the highlights come off 110 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: banks bump a profit, massive share price bounce. That was 111 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: one the other three banks released their quarterlies. Yeah, lenards 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: are in fine fettals how I put it, Miners did well, 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: energy companies not so well. But that's very much a 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: commodity price question. I mean the cent now their BHP 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: bump a profit. It's copper division, which includes gold and silver, 116 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: contributed more than earnings than it's iron ore division. I 117 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: think that's probably the single stat that I will remember 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: from profit season. 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Fine fetal is such an old school saying it just 120 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: instantly ages you short. What about the retailers right Where's 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: farmers again did well, driven by Bunnings, which makes up 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of earnings for the group. But it 123 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: seems like some of the other retailers didn't do as well. 124 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably fair enough, Harvey Norman. It's sort 125 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: of outlooks taped was weakish. Some of the adore and 126 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: some of those smaller retailers talked about having to cut 127 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: price and margins to get sales. Jb hi FI was 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the exception, which actually is an exception because it's regularly 129 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: the exception. A lot of exceptions in there. 130 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Yep, I hope you followed. He did not good. It jumped. 131 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: It jumped revenue and profit. It's share price jumped the group. 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: They did more than AI would drive up the cost 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: of computers and tech equipment. Tellstrat a pretty good result 134 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: in the back of its malbile markets. I suppose the 135 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: disappointment's healthcare definitely CSL early in the season led that 136 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: sector down, and tech stocks and not always because of earnings, 137 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: but kind of the threat of AI has hit some 138 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: of those tech companies. 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: All right, great summary. We'll be back in a moment 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: with the rest of the day's business news seawn. Federal 141 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Parliament was back yesterday with Angus Taylor leading the Liberals 142 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: for the first time, but it was Pauline Hanson that 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: grabbed the headlines after Labour Senator Penny Wong pushed to 144 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: actually censor Hanson for her comments suggesting that there were 145 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: no good Muslims in Australia. Leader of the Opposition in 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: the Senate, Michaulia Cash, said that while the Liberals were 147 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: against vilifying people on the basis of religion, they wouldn't 148 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: support the motion. 149 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson called Wong's motion a stunt. She then left 150 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: the chamber, followed by the other one Nation senators, not 151 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: that it did her much good. The censor motion was passed, 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: with Greens and Independent MPs supporting labor I. Meanwhile, in 153 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: the House of Reps, Energy Minister Chris Bowen said Australia 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: had thirty six days of petrol supply available, the highest 155 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: that's been in about fifteen years. Also, momentus stay for 156 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: Anthony Abernezi, who turned sixty three years of age and 157 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: treasure Jim Chalmers, who turned to forty eight years same birthday. 158 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: Albanzi was also his thirtieth year as an MP. There 159 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: you go. Did you know Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor 160 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: also share the same birthday? Do they? I think I'm 161 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: going to get it wrong, but like September thirty, I think, 162 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's all right. Do you reckon? 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Charmers and Albanesi would celebrate together or they have rival 164 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: parties and therefore make the Labor Party split them along 165 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: the factional lines as to which party they go to. 166 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: I just think they're very different people, aren't. 167 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: There They definitely are. Feels like they'd be very different 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: types of parties as well. Albos feels like it would 169 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit looser anyway. Job ads Sean across 170 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: the country have risen to their highest level in sixteen 171 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: months after a three percent jump last. 172 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: MONTHIDA Indeed, data chose job ads are seventeen percent higher 173 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: than before the pandemic. The new year coincided with a 174 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: arise in ads for nurses in particular, also more jobs 175 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: in retail administration. Meanwhile, Michael, the Workplace Gender Equality Agency 176 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: has really it's gender pay gap results this morning, and 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: it looks at ten five hundred employers across the country, 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: things are getting better, but more than fifty percent of 179 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: employers have a gender pay gap larger than eleven point 180 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: two percent in favor of men. So we still have 181 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: a long way to go. 182 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, And that's what you're speaking to Mary Wooldridge today. 183 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: This is in Fear and Greed Q and A, which 184 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: comes up a little bit later on in the Fear 185 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: and Greed playlist from the Workplace Gender Equality Agency. Really 186 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: digging into those numbers. 187 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: Exactly what she's been doing it for quite a few 188 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: years now, Mary, and she's she's quite upbeat about the 189 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: progress that's being made, but she's not kidding herself about 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: how much further we've got to go. Yeah. 191 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just if you're in business, if you're 192 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: in a workplace, basically just just listen. Listen to this 193 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: because we can all learn something out of this. Sean 194 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: Ampol may have to sell up to fifty four petrol 195 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: station sites after the competition regulator said it had serious 196 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: concerns about us proposed one point one billion dollar takeover 197 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: of rival operator EG Australia. The Australian Competition and Consumer 198 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: Commission said it was specifically worried about fifty four EG 199 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: petrol stations that overlap with Ampole sites and that which 200 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: could substantially lessen competition. As according to a report in 201 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: the Thin Review, in. 202 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: Some of the fifty one local areas, primarily in Metropolitan 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: and Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney and canber the combined site share 204 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: of MPOLE and EG is as much as three quarters 205 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: like seventy five percent of the surveys from those two 206 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: according to the watchdog, although the number of sites concerned 207 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: is less than half in the good news is that 208 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: the fifty four people we worried it's going to be 209 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen sites that Ampole might have to 210 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: sell it come down to this fifty four sites. As 211 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: a result of Mpole's share price rose three percent yesterday. 212 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Turning to international news now, Sean Survivor, one of the 213 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: most successful reality TV shows of all time, has just 214 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: kicked off its fiftieth season, which is pretty extraordinary because 215 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: it joins a shortly of US programs like Saturday Night 216 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Live and sixty Minutes that have managed to stay on 217 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the air for fifty or more seasons and probably the 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: bigger challenge keep their audiences. 219 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: Yes, are you a fan of Survivor? 220 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: I have loved Survivor since season one. I have not 221 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: seen all fifty I cannot keep up with the pace 222 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: at which they put seasons out, but I love it. 223 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: What about you? 224 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, I saw the first couple of seasons. 225 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: I did enjoy that, and it's kind of become part 226 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: of It's iconic, no doubt about it in case you 227 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: haven't seen it. Basically, the show's testings are tested for 228 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: their physical, mental, social strength. It was based on a 229 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: ninety ninety seven Swedish series called Expedition Robinson. Now, if 230 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: you was saying fifty years, hold on nine a ninety seven, Well, 231 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: the reason we've got to fifty seasons is that it 232 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: runs at more than one season a year, pretty much 233 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: an immediate success. In fact, it's first season finale, fifty 234 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: million people in the US watched it, which was pretty phenomenal. 235 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: Baggering relative cheap to produce, green lighted a bunch of 236 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: other shows like The Amazing Race The Mole, even The 237 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: Bachelor can thanks Survivor for proving it audiences basically love 238 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: to see real people get overwhelmed. On camera, and I 239 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: think that's true. According to a new site Morning Brew 240 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: the Big Picture here, fifty seasons later, Survivors still putting 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: up the numbers. It's got a back catalog of episodes 242 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: available on streaming. In fact, Survivor was the most watched 243 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: Emmy nominee last year, four one hundred and sixty two 244 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: point four million viewing hours during the awards shows year 245 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: long eligibility year period. That is pretty phenomenal, more than 246 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: double any other nominee in any category, more than the 247 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: rest of the reality competition nominees put together. Go Survivor 248 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: a true survivor. 249 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And it didn't just kind of spawn a 250 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: whole lot of other reality TV shows. It also generated 251 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: then spin offs in pretty much every market around the world, 252 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: including of course Australia. It was always a bit of 253 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: a dream to be on Australian Survivor. But now I 254 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: realize I think I enjoyed the creature comforts too much 255 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: to it to actually go on a beach and live 256 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: there for a few weeks. All right, Sure, Now this 257 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: is the point of the program where we would normally 258 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: stay goodbye, not today, stay with us for a few 259 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: more minutes. Because we've got something that I think you'll 260 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: want to hear. 261 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Michael. This is our accelerated series with air 262 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: Wallacks where we explore what it takes for businesses to 263 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: grow with our borders and why having a what next 264 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: mindset can be your competitive advantage. James Tioderini is head 265 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: of Australia New Zealand at air Wallacks. James, welcome to 266 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: you're in greats Accelerated series. Thank you very much for 267 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: having me restlessness as a competitive advantage. What does that 268 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: look like in practice inside an organization like air Wallacks 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: and how do you stop it from becoming a distraction 270 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: really rather than a disciplined. 271 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question for me. I think about 272 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: that in two places. So restlessness shows up in how 273 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: we serve our customers. So if you think about a CFO, 274 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: and we hear these stories all the time, right, someone's 275 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: logging into three different international bank accounts in the morning 276 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: to check their balance in euro pounds dollars, Then at 277 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: lunch they're exporting CSV files for analytics, and then at 278 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: night they're you know, checking credit card spend against the 279 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: spreadsheet that to us feels broken and that to us. 280 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: Whilst a lot of people accept that as the status 281 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: quo feels like something we're restless in our sense of no, 282 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: there's got to be something better there. And so that 283 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: then shows up in how we build. So we build, 284 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: and until your point about discipline, we're really disciplined in 285 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: building across horizontally across that financial stack. So whether that's 286 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: from acquiring, so how do you get payments in to 287 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: treasury management, to cards to payouts, We're really disciplined in 288 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: your sense going does it save money for a customer 289 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: or does it save time for them? If it doesn't, 290 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: it's just something shiny and we need to put it 291 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: to one side. 292 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: Okay. But the basis of that is that there be 293 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: a lot of CFOs out there who know it's not 294 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: quite right. Do I quite have the answer for they 295 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: ain't this? Ain't it? 296 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: And it's been accepted for such a long time, right, 297 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: And I think what we're building is that, well, I 298 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: know what we're building is that financial infrastructure that covers 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: the entire treasury and operational stack for CFOs. 300 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you build a culture where teams 301 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: that are encouraged to constantly ask what next? Without burning 302 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: people out because that is a challenge. 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great point, and it is 304 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: a challenge. And I think there's a couple of areas 305 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: that we that we really think about. That one is 306 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: when we're hiring, right, we want to hire for people 307 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: who are curious, who are driven, who are restless in 308 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: their nature, that they want to go and do something different. 309 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: And I couldn't think about something I'd rather do more 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: than change an ecosystem. And I feel like that's what 311 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: we do, right, you know, to your point about status quo, 312 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: we're changing the status quo for business, but how we 313 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: stop people burning out is really important, and that for 314 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: me is tying it to the mission, tying it to 315 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: the vision. 316 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: You know. 317 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: Ultimately, we've just done our engagement survey actually and our 318 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: scores were up again. We kind of got an eighty 319 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: six score in our engagement survey, but nine out of 320 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: ten people thought or said rather that they understood what 321 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: our strategy was and they understood how what they did 322 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: tied to that. So if you hire for people that 323 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: are curious driven, you give them metrics, you give them 324 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: numbers to check against, and you give them a sense 325 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: of purpose. Towards what we're trying to do, which has 326 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: build the future of finance. Hopefully that breeds a culture 327 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: where we don't burn people out, but we still move 328 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: at a real pace. 329 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Now, look, you've really taken it on the future of finance, right. 330 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: Your industry, especially here in Australia, absolutely dominated by incumbents. 331 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: They've been around for decades, in decades, in fact, Australia 332 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: is second longest standing ISx listed company is a bank? Right, 333 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: So how does the mitet of asking what next allow 334 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: you to take on those larger legacy players and do better? 335 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 336 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, look you called it out there, right. They 337 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: have that history, they have capital, they have scale, they 338 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: have customers, but that kind of creates an existential problem 339 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: in that they are built on one hundred year old foundations. 340 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: You know, the technology is built on often decades old foundations, 341 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: but also sometimes more importantly, it sits in a number 342 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: of different places. Right if I talk to a cards product, 343 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: or a payments product, or a foreign exchange product or 344 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: a treasury management product, that can often sit in four 345 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: different departments for different you know, competing priorities. So whilst yes, 346 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: they have that you know legacy advantage. We have the 347 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: advantage of we've built customer first. We've built from those 348 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: first principles of how do we go and solve for 349 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: a unified data and financial infrastructure stack. What that's enabled 350 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: us to do, particularly in the age of AI now right, 351 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: is we can go and get CFOs to interrogate that 352 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: financial data in one place. We don't have to go 353 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: and bring different departments up to speed because it's built 354 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: across what we do. So I think we have that 355 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: advantage of being built from a customer first mindset and 356 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: from a unified mindset. 357 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so looking at head thraight to five years, what's 358 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: the next convention in banking that you think needs to 359 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: be will be broken? And what does the demand of 360 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: you a well likes to do that. 361 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: I think there's a view that I hold and that 362 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: we hold as a business that if you look at 363 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: the convention of a finance team, it's often a backwards 364 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: looking exercise. You're looking at your kind of Q one 365 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: and seeing, well, what happened there, Why did that happen? 366 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: And you know you've got to go and find data 367 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: from a lot of different places. For me, what I'm 368 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: really excited about is finance as a growth engine. How 369 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: can you use finance functions to understand where should I 370 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: go and expand where should I deploy my capital? 371 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: For me? And I touched on it there. 372 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: I think that ability to build in AI into what 373 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: we're doing and even in a conversational way is going 374 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: to be super interesting. So if you have a unified 375 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: financial stack, right, you can go and say, as a CFO, 376 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: why did my expenses spike class quarter? Almost as if 377 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: you would type a text message to your friend and 378 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: it will surface those insights. Where I'm more excited about 379 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: is where it goes. Well, if I expanded to Singapore, 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: what does that mean for my revenue? What does that 381 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: mean for my cash flow? What does that mean for 382 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: my margins? And that demands of us continuing to build 383 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: customer first, continuing to build a unified stack, but also 384 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: building in a way that is responsible as well, and 385 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: ultimately getting hopefully our product and AI to a point 386 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: that it's almost acts like a junior controller, right. You know, 387 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: it's going to bring you the insights, it's going to 388 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: bring you the data, and we get finance leaders to 389 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: go and build strategic instinctive decisions built on that rather 390 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: than looking back and going John spent too much on 391 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: taxis last month. 392 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: James, thank you for joining the Accelerator Series. 393 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 394 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: That was James Tiodorini, Head of Australia, New Zealand and 395 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: ear Wallas. I'm Sean Almer and this is the Accelerator Series, 396 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: brought to you by ear Wallas. 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