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Speaker 1: want to say that we cover a broad range of

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Speaker 1: talk about relevant for you and your needs, your biology,

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Speaker 1: I'll get our you, bloody champions, Welcome to another installment

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Speaker 1: you project. Craig Anthony Harper is my name? Fuck? And

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Speaker 1: how what a great day. It's Thursday, It's the tenth

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Speaker 1: of the tenth, It's twelve minutes past ten, and the

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Speaker 1: thriving metropolis of bayside Melbourne, where I'm currently at, and

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Speaker 1: up where the sun is at, and well it seems

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Speaker 1: like the fucking the torrential rain is at. It is

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Speaker 1: only nine to twelve pm in the am. In the

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Speaker 1: nine to twelve in the am, put your teeth in arps.

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Speaker 1: And Perry Venakis, a longtime friend and work colleague, is

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Speaker 1: joining us again on the show.

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Speaker 2: Get I buddy, the mister Harperdopolis. It's so good to

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Speaker 2: see you again. And in forty eight minutes I'll be

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Speaker 2: just as excited as you because it'll be tenth of

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Speaker 2: the tenth at ten o'clock. Then I should be bouncing

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Speaker 2: pouring down to rechial rain today with hell storms et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You know, over one hundred milimeters of rain dropped through

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Speaker 2: last night. So yeah, fun and games today.

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Speaker 1: One hundred millimeters of one hundred millimeters of rain you

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Speaker 2: And it smashed down some shopping centers up in an

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they got a deluge of water

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Speaker 2: Marshal Lastsenter copped it as well, so they got drenched.

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Speaker 2: But the hailstorm, it's incredible. It's just done so much

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Speaker 2: So I know one of the guys I know had

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Speaker 1: So Mother Nature's fucked off at the moment. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on around the world. So a couple of

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Speaker 1: course an Olympic swimmer, multiple world champion, Olympic medalist, three

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Speaker 2: I'm like, fucking hew, I saw that. And there was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to put one on your forehead just

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Speaker 1: I'm sure someone does. So how's life in the Sunshine State?

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Speaker 1: How long you been in the Sunshine State? As I

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Speaker 2: I moved here about three years ago, now it's been

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Speaker 2: You spent a whole day. They're just enjoying life and

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Speaker 1: I'm so fucking jealous when I come up next. Can

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Speaker 2: That place you are on Craiger and guess what I'll

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Speaker 1: How are you allowed to just drive your road registered

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's an interesting thing. They actually have that area

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Speaker 2: interesting thing. They cover that area with drones and police

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Speaker 2: You're doing forty five, they will come and get you.

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Speaker 2: They'll just spend you down straight away and you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh lord, this lovely drone following me and nix menting

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Speaker 1: That's so that's such an Australian thing, isn't it. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: apart from the drones, but what about dirt bikes? Because

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Speaker 1: you know I'm a bike person. Would I be allowed

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Speaker 2: Along there as long as it's registered? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Right? But no, but no, there's no Hyundai Atlantra's just

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Speaker 1: So though like so, they're not allowed. If they're just

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Speaker 2: Can go on there. They're more than happy to go

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Speaker 1: So if you're driving the thirty year old high UNDIXL

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Speaker 2: Now, let's think about it. Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know the tourists that like to come

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Speaker 2: I'll just hitch them up and pull them back out

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Speaker 1: When you get to this the end point, the lagoon

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Speaker 1: just a big salt water pool? But what is it?

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Speaker 2: It is huge, this massive, huge salt water pool area.

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Speaker 2: And it's near a place called Rainbow Beach, which is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful beach as well, and it's just a massive

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Speaker 2: I've got a real big two hundred and seventy degree

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to fuck up the timing, would you.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why you get told please check the tithe thing.

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Speaker 2: You've got to drive two hours of either side of

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Speaker 2: And what happened was the barge that gets you across

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Speaker 2: they're feeling, you know, how much you sleep?

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Speaker 1: Do?

431
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: They get all little biomarkers to try and understand a baseline,

432
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: and then we might create some change. So, for example, we

433
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: might say, all right, today, we're going to get you

434
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Speaker 2: to doing there and do a three week thing of

435
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: body weight exercises and every week getting quintat with me

436
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday and just give me a rundown. How

437
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: are you feeling? Are you sleeping better? Are you walking better?

438
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: Can get ut of your car easier? Whatever little things

439
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: like that we might say that might be working for them,

440
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: or they might go, hey, I've just done this session.

441
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: I am completely exhausted, i can't walk, I'm really tired,

442
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm falling asleep everywhere, and we go all right, well

443
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: this hasn't worked for you, let's try a different protocol.

444
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: But the most important thing is that we have a baseline,

445
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: that we have an understanding of where they are right

446
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: now when they come into our environment, what's actually happening

447
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: with them? And if they want to go in deeper,

448
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: we can get blood test done, so we have a

449
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: very in depth blood panelt that one can do to

450
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: see what's happening with their body and if there's any

451
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: inflammatory markets going on. They see what the cholesterol levels like,

452
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: what their living functions like, what kidney functions like, and

453
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: then if they want to go another deeper level, they

454
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: can also then go get a dexa scam to assist

455
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: their bone density, their body fat mass, and the amount

456
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: of muscle they have on their body. So it becomes

457
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: an individual thing to what that client wants to find

458
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: out about themselves and how in depth they want to go.

459
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: The biggest concern I find with people, they'll come to

460
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: me when they're actually sick, when I've actually hit rick war.

461
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: Oh mate, I've been to the doctor and he said

462
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: to me, I'm pre diabetic. Or you know, I've gotten

463
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: up this morning and I've gone to put my shoes on,

464
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: I've done, I'm back. What do I do? And that's

465
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: a sad thing to see that they come to us

466
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: broken rather than come to us before they break and go, hey,

467
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm sixty one. I've just had my sixty one birthday.

468
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: When I get the seventy one, I want to be

469
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: feeling amazing, feel optimal health, be able to run up

470
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: that stairs, you know, go to the beach, go with

471
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: Prague and Perry down to Double Island point and what

472
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: do I need to do?

473
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, we're not taking anyone. Fuck that.

474
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Speaker 1: It's just you and me. They can get there themselves. Okay, okay,

475
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: Now let's just put aside for the moment that not

476
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: everyone can work with you. But we're going to talk

477
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Speaker 1: about your stuff towards the end. But in general, though,

478
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Speaker 1: like people can like, you don't need to be you

479
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: or me, right, you don't need to have multiple degrees

480
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: to be able to be scientific.

481
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: Right.

482
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: So like, so when we what I mean by that is,

483
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, Brian the truck driver, shout out to Brian

484
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the truck driver, God bless him. He might go, well,

485
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to just start to record a few things.

486
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: I might get some as you call baseline data, and

487
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: that might just be what's my what's my stomach measurement,

488
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: my hip measurement, what's my body weight? You know, what's

489
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: my energy level? If I had to do a subjective

490
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: rating out of ten and then Brian the truck driver

491
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: can start to put in place some what you and

492
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: me would call protocols. Most people would just say changes

493
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: where you do something, you try something, and then over

494
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: time he or she or whoever can figure out what's working,

495
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, our body is always telling us something

496
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: like our right. Our body's always talking to us right,

497
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: and we need to learn that fucking language.

498
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: This is the problem. Though people don't realize what their

499
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: body's saying to them. They have accepted the fact that

500
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: they feel like crap. And the biggest reason why I

501
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: think this is is that let's say they're eight nineteen

502
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: twenty running around feeling great, feeling amazing. You know, twenty

503
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: years later of forty forty one, forty two, they've had

504
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: twenty years of slow, slow incrementation of full food pull

505
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: lifestyle choices, whatever, right, life's gotten in the way, So

506
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: they slowly, slowly go down the rabbit hole of not

507
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: feeling fantastic, of feeling suboptimal, having no energy, feeling it's

508
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: better just to sit on the couch rather than go

509
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: after a walk, and they just accept that as being normal.

510
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: And this is the problem is that this feeling of

511
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: normal is actually really bad. You're in poor health, and

512
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: it's when they start to create change, like you said,

513
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: put a protocol in or do something different to try

514
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: and assist their health and world be and they go, oh,

515
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: my god, I feel amazing, and we sit there and go, well,

516
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: that amazing is actually normal. That's how you should be feeling.

517
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: I had an experience like this about a month ago.

518
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: What had happened with me is that we had a

519
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: few things going on here a friend that had passed away,

520
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: So that sort of put me in a bit of

521
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: a bad headspace because I was trying to help him out,

522
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: and yet it just went belly up. Long story short,

523
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: that passed away and a few other things. So for

524
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: those few days, I wasn't eating properly. I was pretty

525
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: sad about what had happened. I fell sorry for the family, etc.

526
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: Missed out on training, missed out on food. My slip

527
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: was disrupted. By the end of the week, I was

528
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: a mess. I was at a few days and I went,

529
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: I need to force myself to eat properly in I

530
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: need to get just open up the cupboard, get the

531
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: food out, get back into routine. And within forty eight

532
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: hours I was bouncing off the walls again and I

533
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: could handle the stresses of life have been dished out

534
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: to me. But it was just that instance, dainious shock

535
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: of you know, one mid I'm talking to this person,

536
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: next minute they've passed away. It's like, what just happened?

537
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: And I've got the taste of what it's like to

538
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 2: not eat well, not sleep well, not be active, and

539
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, just being a negative headspace. How can affecting you, Savili?

540
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: And unfortunately a lot of people are like that every day.

541
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: And it's sound it is, and it's it's and we

542
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: don't mean this too in any ways sound judgmental listeners

543
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: at all at all. That's actually coming from a place

544
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: of you know, compassionate care. I want people to feel great.

545
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: I want people to have energy. I want people to

546
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: get out of bed and go.

547
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Fuck.

548
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I love being me. Ah, how good is it me?

549
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: You know, Peza, It's interesting. I'm like you. I weigh

550
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: my fucking dinner, I weigh my breakfast. I weigh you know,

551
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: I have protein powder. Everyone knows almonds, oats, some cilium husk,

552
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: and a few bits and pieces a few seeds in

553
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: my breakfast. I weighed every day before I put whatever

554
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I put on it, milk whatever. It weighs one hundred

555
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: and sixty gram so it's not a small breakfast, right,

556
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: And I also weigh my dinner. How if I have

557
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: most nights i'll have like meat and vegies, but I

558
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: weigh the amount of you know, and that just works

559
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: for me. And again this is not a recommendation for you,

560
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: the listener, But not last night, the night before. So

561
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: what's today? So that was tuesday. I'd had a massive day,

562
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: and I every now and then I'll buy takeaway like

563
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I live in Hampton, as you know, there's a million

564
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: fucking restaurants, and I'll go and get some some Thai food, chicken, veggies, rice, whatever.

565
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: And when I was I don't know, in my twenties

566
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: and thirties, I used to eat pasta like a motherfucker.

567
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: But I rarely eat past it, right, I just anyway,

568
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: the other night I went and I got I went

569
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: fuck it like I'd not eaten much food just because

570
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: my day was crazy, and I just ordered tortellini bolonnaise. Right, dude,

571
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: I've felt like so we are now ten forty, I

572
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: can still feel that that was two nights ago, and

573
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: it's not like the actual calories that I ate wouldn't

574
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: been more than my normal dinner. But it's so funny.

575
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: My body has been going to me for the last

576
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty six hours, what the fuck is wrong with you?

577
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: And now I'm not saying donat passa everyone, I'm not

578
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: saying donut to Ord Lennie, but my body has very

579
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: clearly told me don't do that again. I do not

580
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: like it. And it's funny because you wouldn't think. I

581
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: mean just typically, but oh my god, dude, I feel

582
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm starting to come good now, but I

583
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: felt heavy in the I wasn't psychological. Physiologically, I felt ah.

584
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I felt like low level nausea and I

585
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: just felt blah. And also I actually think it impaired

586
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: my cognition.

587
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I have a similar story. One

588
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: of my clients who's now become a good friend messaged

589
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: me and he goes, actually hate you, and I'm like,

590
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: that's a really nice message. Why and he goes, well,

591
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: I went out with my girlfriend down a live on

592
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: the street for those of that that's a nice alien

593
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: restaurant area and they've gone out and splurge and he's

594
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: had dessert, et cetera. Now, he's been fanatical about getting

595
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: his health back on track. Was out of healthcare two

596
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: years ago, so he has been eating what we term

597
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 2: as clean, consistent home cooking, et cetera. They've gone out

598
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: to celebrate with his partner. He reckons. By the time

599
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: he got home, he was on that toilet and yeah,

600
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: like let's say, exploding volpain and he goes, I hate you,

601
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: he goes, my body just can't handle eating. You don't

602
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: processed food anymore. That's all your fault. And I've said,

603
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry, but you know you're actually fifteen kilos

604
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 2: lighter and all your blood taste to shine that you're

605
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: in optimal health. So yeah, blame the bald brick. It's

606
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: all good. I'll pop it on the chin.

607
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I think just like when you are, you know, suboptimal,

608
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: you know you're not in a great place physically, and

609
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: as you were talking about a moment ago, you think, oh,

610
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: this is normal. Then when you get healthy, I mean functional, energetic,

611
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about what you look like everybody. I'm

612
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: not talking about what you're weight is, you know, but

613
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: just whatever that is. When you get when you're in

614
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: a better place like I it's kind of although it's bad,

615
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: but it's for me. Sometimes it's good to do that,

616
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: have a bit of pasta because it makes me realize

617
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: how good I normally feel, because I because my energy,

618
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: my everything, my cognitive function, my training, my strength, everything

619
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: is I think maybe I take it for granted a

620
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: little bit because I've never really stopped right. It's like you,

621
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: it's like I've I've never really like, I've never taken

622
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: more than in the last forty five years. The most

623
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have trained would be one week and I

624
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: can't even remember when that would have been.

625
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: Right.

626
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean my diet's always been fucking optimal. That

627
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: definitely has been a problem at times. But you know,

628
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years, I would say my diet

629
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: has been, you know, as close to optimal as I

630
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: can have it. But yeah, that when you feel really good,

631
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: but your normal state is feeling really good, you kind

632
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: of lose perspective and then when you feel shit, you're like, ah, fuck,

633
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: this is horrible. I just want yesterday back when I

634
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: wasn't eating this.

635
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 2: And look, you mentioned it to all. Two is that

636
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: it's become a way of life for us. Well, what

637
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: we're doing, the way we eat, the way we train,

638
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: the way we move, the way we sleep is now

639
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: a normal aspect of our lifestyle. But that's how it was.

640
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: Two hundred years ago. There was a packet of Colvin Ships,

641
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Senior Eminem's and all this that was there. There was

642
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: no fast food places, so back then they were eating

643
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: everything that came out of the earth or anything that

644
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: was running around, et cetera. That's the way, you know,

645
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: my grandparents ate and why my parents ate when they

646
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: got here until they discovered, you know, Kentucky Fried Chicken.

647
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Shout out, Shout out to KFC, one of our biggest sponsors.

648
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: No they're not. I actually have been offered a couple

649
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: of not through KFC, but other well known fast food

650
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: outlets as sponsors for the show.

651
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: And I've been approached for some supplement companies that I've

652
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: just gone, ah, yeah, no, thank you.

653
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Well, I had to say, have you listened to my

654
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: fucking show? As if do you know what I do? Anyway? Hey,

655
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: so we were going to do a show talking about

656
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: myths and fallacies around food, but look at us, we

657
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: haven't done that. But let's talk about a few anyway,

658
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I want to.

659
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: I want to.

660
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: Just a few things that I guess a lot of

661
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: people are either misunderstand or curious about, or perhaps even

662
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: a few topics that are somewhat divisive in that there's

663
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: different there's two different schools of thought. So there's an

664
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: idea that salt, you know, putting salt on our food

665
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: is bad for us? What say you, Judge Perry.

666
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: Judge Perry is now taken over the stand and we'll

667
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: be discussing this clearly with you, salt. If you have

668
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: a high pertension, promise, have you've got high blood pressure?

669
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: We need to look at whether it's a renal condition

670
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: or as a genetic issue, or whether it's got to

671
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: do with your nutrition. Now, a lot of the times

672
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: has got to do with the fact that you're eating

673
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: a lot of ultra process food. There's a lot of

674
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: hidden sodium in there, or you haven't just read the

675
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: label to realize how much salt you're getting in through

676
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: the day. So therefore your blood pressure goes through the roof.

677
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Your hydration system in your body has changed completely as

678
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: well too, So we start to have a lot of

679
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: issues here going on. But if you're a whole food eater.

680
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: If you're eating a lot of fruit and vegetables and

681
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: nuts and you don't buy any process food, you actually

682
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: need salt and all the trace mineral eons that come

683
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: with that to make it affecting your body. See, your

684
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: body can work effectively. So in the end ninety program

685
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: that I run, because it's a whole full basis, my

686
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: clients must be put in there anywhere between one to

687
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: five brands of Celtic salt in their food per day.

688
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: And initially people sort of get scared and they go, oh,

689
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: what do you mean. I'm like one, Celtic salts got

690
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: a lower amount of sodium compared to the other nutrients

691
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: that any and the other micronutrients. But more importantly, it's

692
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: going to assist with all the other bodily functions, Like

693
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: there's calcium, magnetesium, potassium, and the list goes on and

694
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: on and on which you require for bodily function. It's

695
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: when we isolate the sodium, so you get you know,

696
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: the old sacks assault that my mum and dad used

697
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: to put all over their food because I thought this

698
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: is cheap and easy. Well it is cheap and easy,

699
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: but that shoots your blood pressure up through the roof,

700
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: and there's no other benefit to it. There's no o

701
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: the other traces and minerals that you require. So salt

702
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: I'd give people the thumbs up. Basically your nutrition and

703
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: if you're eating whole foods, you're going to need it.

704
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: You're going to need to put solving your steak, You're

705
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: going to need to put salt in your vegetables to

706
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: have your body functioning effectively. And again the old thing,

707
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Let's monitor it. Let's work out how much you need

708
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: as an individual to make it work effectively for you.

709
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: All Right, love it, by the way, that's not a

710
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: recommendation to just go crazy un sold everyone, But I'm

711
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: where do people get Celtic salt?

712
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: By the way, any health food shop will get it,

713
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: or you can buy it online as well too. Make

714
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: sure it's the unrefinedment because unfortunately, because people see Celtic

715
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: salt and it's an original state, it's a gray width

716
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: type of salt. Because it's unrefined, some companies refine it

717
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: and make it look white, and when they've done it,

718
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: they've actually taken some of the good qualities out of it.

719
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: So be aware that the salt that you'll buy will

720
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: have a great color and it will be moisty. Come'm

721
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: putting in normal shaky and if you use your fingers

722
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: to grab it and sprinkle it over your food.

723
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: Wow, moist salt. Who would have thought that could be

724
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the name of the show moist salt. I'm writing that

725
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: down right now. All right, we could do a whole

726
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: show on this, but just give us like sixty to

727
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seconds on some of the confusion

728
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: around carbs, because I mean, carbs could be a fucking

729
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: handful of lollies, or it could be mashed potato, or

730
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: it could be a bowl full of fucking steamed veggie

731
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: or an apple. So give us the just just give

732
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: us a little bit of insight.

733
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay. So all carbohydrates are not the same day. All

734
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: will break down into either fructose or glucose into the

735
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: body to get absorbed, and fructose will get broken down again.

736
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: But the process that fructose goes breaks down within the

737
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: body goes through the liver first, so there's a little

738
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: bit of a difference. And when it comes to fructose

739
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: and eating fruit, the problem with sugar is is that

740
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: people look at sugar on its own and we'll have

741
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: let's say, sugar sweetened beverages, or they're adding sugar to

742
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: every food that they've gotten there, like they make a

743
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: cake and you'll see they'll go put one hundred and

744
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: fifty grams of sugar in there. Anything in such a

745
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 2: high dose is going to cause a problem with the body.

746
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: Any any individual item that we take is going to

747
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: create a problem within the body if the dosage is

748
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: too high. So with sugar, sugar is fine. There is

749
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: no problems with sugar. You will not get diabetes. With sugar.

750
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: You will not get the bone put on fat if

751
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: you're having carbs on at night. It's yeah, all these fallacies.

752
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: It's understanding that the energy balance of energy in versus

753
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: energy out. So you've got someone that can explain it

754
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: to you effectively and understand what your energy output is

755
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: and then you balance it out with your intake. And

756
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: a carbohydrate is a macro nutrient that we need to

757
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: monitor and we need to understand the carbohydrates and sugar

758
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: basically are an energy source for the body that don't

759
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: make you fat. What makes you fat is eating way

760
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: too much of anything. You eat too much protai and

761
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. You eat too much fat,

762
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. You eat too many carbs,

763
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. So the realistic approach is

764
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: to understand what carbohydrates and should we do within the

765
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: body itself, and then monitor it and have the right

766
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: amount that's going to suit you. So, yes, you can

767
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: have carbs at night, you will not get fat. Yes

768
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: you can have a piece of fruit before you go

769
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: to bed, you will not get diabetes. The interesting thing is, though,

770
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: and this is one thing I've explained with a couple

771
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: of my clients, if you have a big carbohydrate meal

772
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: before you go to bed and you are getting blood

773
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: tests on the next morning, I've proved this over and

774
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: over again that your blood glucose level in the morning

775
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: in the fastest state, will be elevated. Now, if you're

776
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: on borderline already and then you have carbs at night

777
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: and you go to your doctor, that might say you're

778
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: pre diabetic. So always advise people, if you're getting blood

779
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: TIS done, please have your carves before lunchtime. And then

780
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: if you're having anything else with which are carbohdlates, such

781
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: as vegetables they're fibrous, don't have too many of them.

782
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: Let the body work into its normal state, so we

783
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: get on a state of homeostasis wing you're getting your

784
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: blood works done.

785
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And what's interesting is I think

786
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: people try and just bring, you know, obesity or dysfunction

787
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: or poor health down to one thing. Oh it's carps,

788
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, there's so many fucking variables, right, and

789
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: not even you know, it's like you said, you eat

790
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: too much of anything, You're going to gain Wait, you're

791
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: going to gain fat. So you could have you could

792
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: have the perfect diet in terms of what you're eating,

793
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: the quality of food, the type of food, like you said,

794
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: everything that was grown or running around or swimming. You know,

795
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: you could have all whole foods, but you have a

796
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: thousand calories a day more than you need. Guess what,

797
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: you know it ain't healthy. Yes, the food sauce is healthy,

798
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: the type of food that you are eating is healthy.

799
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: But the volume of food that you are eating is unhealthy.

800
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: And you know what else is I was going to

801
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: say frustrating. It's not frustrating, it's just fucking annoying. Is that,

802
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, despite the fact that we're more educated, more

803
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: researched and all of that than ever. And yes we

804
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: need to talk about all the minutia and the variables

805
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: around micros and macros and quality of food and the

806
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: thermogenic effective food and all that. We're going to talk

807
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: about that in a minute. But the bottom line is

808
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: most Australians just fucking eat too much. But I mean,

809
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: that's it the end.

810
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: And you know what, when we do a self report analysis,

811
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: so we getting to do a food frequency report, it

812
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: has been proven. I think percent of these people under

813
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: risk them what they're eating. Of course I only had

814
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: a bag of chips, but they had four or you know,

815
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: I only had one slice of pizza. It was two massive,

816
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: large pieces that you ate and we forget the alcohol

817
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: that you had to wash it down with. You know,

818
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: it is incredible to actually see that. And when you

819
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: have people that actually when we do surveys and we

820
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: actually have people that monitor in their lifestyle that they're

821
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: actually with them when they report what they've eaten, and

822
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: when we see what they've eaten, eighty percent of the time,

823
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: it's very different and it makes it frustrating. It really does.

824
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: It creates the problem because you're trying to identify a

825
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: problem to give them a solution, and they're like giving

826
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: you the actual facts, and like you said, they're just

827
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: over eat and I don't realize that overeating. They're like, hey,

828
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: I had two big Macs. Well you know I didn't

829
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: have the diet coke. I didn't Sorry, I didn't have

830
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: a coke, had a diet coke. So it's fine.

831
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, it's it's it's it's

832
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: also hard for and I'm not giving anyone to get

833
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: out of jail card. But you know, like as somebody

834
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: who has struggled with food a lot of his life,

835
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: and you know, when you've been eating a certain way

836
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: and you socialize a certain way, and you know you

837
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: are somewhat addicted to a certain way of eating, and

838
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: it can be fucking addictive because whether or not you

839
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: love Big Max or fucking Heroine or gambling, it's producing

840
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: the same effect in your brain, which is dopamine, right,

841
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: so you know, and the problem is if or the

842
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: challenges I guess, like when you are used to eating

843
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: a certain way and it gives you that although it

844
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: doesn't make you feel great overall, but in the moment,

845
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: like if you love fucking quarter pounders and you have

846
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: a quarter pounder for about seven minutes. You're so fucking happy, right,

847
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: But it's after the seven minutes that you start to

848
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: feel like dogshit. I wanted to I wanted to just

849
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: talk to you about something that I hadn't intended to,

850
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: but this is really relevant. So I often get people

851
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: come to me pez and go, oh, can you look

852
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: at this? And they hand me a can of something. Right,

853
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: someone handed me a can of something recently, and it's

854
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: like this, it's like a multi you know, like everything

855
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: in it like a daily picked me up kind of

856
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit like a one Greens or

857
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: whatever it's called. You know those things. Anyway, so the

858
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: person gives me this canon. I look at the cannon

859
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: on the back of the fucking vitamin this and vitamin

860
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: that and all these minerals, and you know, it's like

861
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: the list is like as long as you're arm there's

862
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: like fucking fifty thing. I'm like, this is magic. Well

863
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm not like, They're like this is magic. It's got

864
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: all the shit in it. And then I start reading

865
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: the quantities, right, I'm like, yeah, I go it is

866
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: in here, but do you know how much like, for example,

867
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: vitamin C or magnesium or whatever is a therapeutic dose. Well,

868
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: this has got about one fiftieth of what you need

869
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: for the day, right, And so so there are all

870
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: these products that go, oh, it's got all this stuff

871
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: in it, but it's at such a low fucking dose

872
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: that it doesn't do anything. So technically they're not lying, right,

873
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you might need I mean, it depends

874
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: who you talk to, but I reckon you need a

875
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: fair bit of vitamin C. What's your what's your RDI

876
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: on vitamin C?

877
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: I need to look up the NRV because they've actually

878
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: changed about six months ago, so we have to rather

879
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: make a quoto number or a figure. We go to

880
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: the National Reference Values and anyone can access these and

881
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: just type in vitamin C and we actually see how

882
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: much vitamin C you need.

883
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: Good idea, You know, we need to find the right

884
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: not just the right fucking you know, micro macro nutrient

885
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: or mineral or vitamin, but also at the right dose.

886
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: Right. Well, two, I'm going to be get with two

887
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: points here, Craig number one. Unless I will use magnesum

888
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: as an example. Everyone thinks they need magnesium to sleep better,

889
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: to feel better, et cetera. But there are so many

890
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: different types of magnesium. I think there's four different types

891
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: of agnice. So they're buying the magnesium to assault so

892
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: you can absorb in the body. Usually with a product

893
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: like that that's got four hundred and seventy two things

894
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: listened to it, what you find is is that quality

895
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: of magnesis ignising is a really shit one. Excuse the

896
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: French here, but it's a really low gradear that it's

897
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: not biovailable because it's so cheap and it's easy for

898
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: them put in there, and you look at it and go,

899
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: I've got magnesium in here, but your body can't even

900
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: process that, So what's the point. Secondly, you know you

901
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: talk about vitamin C fantastic, right. We know that for

902
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: the body to work, we might need X amount, thousand

903
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: milligrams whatever of vitamin C, but how do you know

904
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: how much you need as an individual? Blood works, blood tests,

905
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: Rather than go out and buy all this stuff and

906
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: spend hundreds of dollars on all these supplements because John

907
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: up the road told me this is really good, and

908
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: TikTok was saying that I need magnesium, and the guy

909
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: next door was saying he's vitamin D deficient. So I

910
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: must be vitamin deficient because we live next door to

911
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: each other and go out and spend one hundreds of

912
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: dollars on all these vitamins. We can spend a twenty

913
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: nine dollars and go to your doctor and get a

914
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: filled blood panel done and go, hey, look at my

915
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: zinc levels, they're low. Look at my magnesium levels they're high.

916
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: Look at my vitamin D levels. I live in Queensland,

917
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: they're off the clock. Look and what people don't realize

918
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: is is that they have the dose is what creates

919
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: the poison. So let's say my might have mid D

920
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: level is right up on the upper limit. Right, So

921
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: we know in Australia used to be fifty to two

922
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty per litter. Now it's changed to fifty

923
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. Why whether at bets and there's

924
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: a lot in my opining. You know, it's a long

925
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: story why I think why they've dropped the level. But

926
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: if you're let's say, going off the old scale of

927
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty, you're two hundred and forty, and

928
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: then you start to mega those ten thousand iu a

929
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: day and you go now three fifty four hundred all

930
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the risk of causing you know, hiding

931
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: and barteries, et cetera, goes through the roof. And it's

932
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: all because you didn't get a blood test to see

933
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: where you're at before you get started, before you spend

934
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: the three hundred and ninety five dollars to get it

935
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: from some company from the Amazon that sends that I

936
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: a via plane and two ships to get to you.

937
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: So you've got this unique form of vitamin D that's

938
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: got a label on it that you can't read.

939
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to be the devil's advocate for a moment.

940
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't disagree on anything. But

941
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: also even when we go, oh, or the RDI or

942
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: the what was that other organization you said, mate.

943
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: Well, the National Reference for which actually recommend daily intakes

944
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: and stuff, Well that's got the lower limit everything in there.

945
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like, who's to say that, Let's just go,

946
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: let's just I don't know whatever the fucking the x

947
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: y Z mineral you the recommendation for you and me

948
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: is a thousand milligrams, And we get you and I

949
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: get tested and we're both low in the x y

950
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Z whatever. And then so the prescription is a thousand

951
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: milligrams a day. Then there's the other fact that my

952
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: physiology in your physiology might respond differently to the exact

953
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: same dose of the exact thing, and it's definitely not

954
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: going to produce the exact same benefit because again we're

955
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: genetically different. So you know, like even with urdies, it's like, yeah,

956
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: I reckon, definitely we need them because we need to.

957
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, like one of my friends went and got

958
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: his testosterone checked. Now he's fifty five or something, and

959
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: his testosterone is like through the fucking floor, and I

960
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: can't tell you all the symptoms, but you could guess

961
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: what the symptoms are, right, And apart from losing muscle mass,

962
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: he's depressed, he's got and I think and this is

963
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: a whole other podcast, but I think that, you know,

964
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: like part of it is because his testosterone level is

965
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: incredibly low. It's like a ninety year old man and

966
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: the doctor basically said to him, well, you know you're

967
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: in your fifties. That happens on your way rather than going, well,

968
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we could try a therapeutic dose,

969
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, just like with women, where we replace estrogen

970
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: and progesterone and we call it HRT or there's different

971
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: protocols and different ideas, you know. But the thing is

972
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: that maybe we'll have a chat about this one day.

973
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: But even with this with like, men have an endocrime

974
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: system as do women, and men have a dominant sex

975
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: or moment it's called testosterone. But because there's such an

976
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: issue around buff edge using steroids, we can't even have

977
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: this conversation for when there's this you know, opportunity or

978
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: perhaps this medical reality for some men to explore some

979
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of hormonal treatment that's analogous to what women do

980
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: or use, but you know, for the dominant male hormone.

981
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: You know.

982
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: But it's like, ah, no, no, Like, it's just so

983
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: fucking dumb that we can't just treat some things, you know.

984
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about clinic call treatment. I'm not talking

985
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: about people's self administering or any bullshit. I'm just talking

986
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: about you know, does that ever frustrate you that? Oh mate?

987
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I do a lot on blood testing,

988
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: even though I'm not a doctor or a dietitian, so

989
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: I can't prescribe. I can only offer my opinion on stuff.

990
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: And I've had let's say some in depth conversations with

991
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: doctors regarding people's blood tests, and when I see stuff

992
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: like this, whether it's some optimal testosterone level, and the

993
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: guy's complaining here erect of dysfunction, I'm losing muscle mass,

994
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm feeling like crap, etc. And go to the doctor

995
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: where you can see everything else is normal except this testostera.

996
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: Why can't you give him even just a basic gel

997
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: a testojel that he can use to help elevate him.

998
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: And then with what you mentioned before, how you and

999
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: I could take a thousand milligrams or something, we see

1000
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: how I respond. The way to check that is to

1001
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: retest your blood work. So six weeks later or twelve

1002
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: weeks later, redoing your blood testing might find a thousand

1003
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: milligrams worked amazing for you, but for me, because I've

1004
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: got no hair, I need five thousand milligrams. And that's

1005
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: the thing we've got to retest after we take something.

1006
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: We don't just assume that it's fine. And secondly, this

1007
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: stuff with the humans where we've got a differentiation between

1008
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: females and males, where females can go yep, I'm going

1009
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: through perimidoporesal and our menopausal I can go a hi

1010
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: ten and it's easy, and it's I think you've got

1011
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: our adoptor as a male, and you complain of all

1012
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: your issues and your testosterone levels.

1013
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Alw.

1014
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: It is so rare and very difficult for them to

1015
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: prescribe you with any form of testosterone replacement therapy to

1016
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: try and help you out. That's really really hard.

1017
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that'll change over the next five to

1018
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: ten years. Who knows. All Right, I want to finish

1019
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: on one thing, and I'm being a little bit self

1020
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: indulgent here because I want to know. Tell me about eggs,

1021
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: tell me about cholesterol, tell me about yolks. What's the current?

1022
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: By the way, Pez has got a master's degreen nutrition.

1023
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: If you're wondering what qualifies him, he's not just some

1024
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: Well he is a buffet and he is a bodybuilder,

1025
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: but also he's an educated bullf ed tell us about eggs, mate.

1026
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: Okay, well, egg's got a really bad rap. We got

1027
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: told that you should eat you know, one egg, one

1028
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: egg yog to three egg whites and that's it for

1029
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: the day. And you know egg whites are better for you,

1030
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: et cetera. Well, there's a couple of fallacies with that

1031
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: number one, we've actually found that there is no restrictions

1032
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: on a number of ext you can But what we

1033
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: need to take into consideration that in eggs there is

1034
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 2: a little bit of cholesterol that we need to be addressed,

1035
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: like the saturated fat. But more importantly, there's a better

1036
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: form of a polyunsaturated fat, which is the centsion fat,

1037
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: which is a Mega three. So it's got a Mega three,

1038
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: some traces a Mega six, and a little bit of

1039
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: a Mega nine. Lot every fat. We need to understand

1040
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: that there is they're always going to find these three together.

1041
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 2: We don't have it like you can't get a let's

1042
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: say a product is sort of Mega three on its side,

1043
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: like for example, olive oil. We know it's a Mega nine,

1044
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: but there's still a Mega six and a Mega three

1045
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: in there. So there's a predominant oil that stands out

1046
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: and then place elements of the others. So with eggs,

1047
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: because we went down this pathway of ninety eight percent

1048
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: fat and fat's what push your problem? And fat, what's

1049
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: make with fat, et cetera, we decided to say, well,

1050
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: look at that the yoaks or fat, I don't care,

1051
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: We're going to throw them in the bin and that's

1052
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: a lot of crap. There's actually scientific studies that have

1053
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: come through. Now that's something. You can eat as many

1054
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: eggs as you like, as long as you're cholesterols in check, right,

1055
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: if you know that your triglycerides are on point, and

1056
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: now we're understanding that ApoB is a very important blood test,

1057
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: and then your non HDLC is the next important one.

1058
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: If you're monitoring them and you see where you're at,

1059
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: then you can have as many eggs as you like.

1060
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: There is no issue with that. But even if you

1061
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: try and do the old Wocki thing et eggs raw,

1062
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: that's a big mistake because in egg white there is

1063
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: a product called avident, and avident bonds to vitamin B seven,

1064
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: which is biten and biotin is involved in a lot

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Speaker 2: of chemical reactions within the body, a lot of energy

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Speaker 2: releasing products like in metabolism with fats, and within the

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00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: actual cell itself to function effectively. So if you're blocking biotin,

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Speaker 2: you're going to start feeling like crap. And I've had

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Speaker 2: clients that have tried this with the eat the raw

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00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: eggs and they always end up saying a very similar

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00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: thing and they go I feel I've got a metallic

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00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: taste in my mouth and I don't feel well. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a correlation of the non

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Speaker 2: absorption of biiton or whether it's just the egg white

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Speaker 2: that's tasting like crap and they want to be like

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Speaker 2: Rocky and run up a flying the stairs. But in

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Speaker 2: a nutshell, you know, cook your eggs. Always cook the

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00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: egg white very important. You can have a running oat.

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Speaker 2: There's no problems at all. And yes, you can eat

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Speaker 2: as many eggs as you like, as long as you

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Speaker 2: don't have any underlying health conditions, which involves cholesterol high

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00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 2: levels cholesterol high levels of druggles ride in the body.

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Speaker 1: He's not suggesting that you do eat twelve a day,

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00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: by the way everyone, but perhaps that you don't need

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Speaker 1: to be terrified of having one or more a day.

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Speaker 1: Ye tell people.

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Speaker 2: I've had people freak out and go I had a

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Speaker 2: whole egg with it, and I'm really concerned. I said, well,

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Speaker 2: if you ate the shell, I'd be worried too. It's okay,

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Speaker 2: you can have your egg. You're can have two eggs,

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00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: you can have three eggs, because in three eggs there's

1092
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: twenty one grands of protein, which is it's perfect for

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00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: your body to function nicely.

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Speaker 1: How do people find you?

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Speaker 2: Mate?

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Speaker 1: Where do they? Where can they connect with you? Website, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: brand products, go beautiful?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have a company known as Nutrition ninety,

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Speaker 2: so you can look up nutrition ninety dot com dot

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Speaker 2: au or to make it easier n ninety dot com

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Speaker 2: dot au. I'm also on Instagram under Nutrition ninety. I'm

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Speaker 2: on YouTube on Nutrition ninety. I am on Facebook as

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Speaker 2: Nutrition ninety. If you go on my Instagram page, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of information on there to fill you in.

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Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok with some more of a comical approach

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Speaker 2: to nutrition as well too. If you want to find

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Speaker 2: me on there again, either Nutrition ninety or my name

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Speaker 2: Perry Venatis.

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Speaker 1: Good work you fuck well. Now we just need the

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Speaker 1: book and then we can flog your book. When's that

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Speaker 1: coming out next year?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully the beginning of next year. Perfect perfect sarcopenia my

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Speaker 2: favorite subject.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fuck, that's very Speaking of people over sixty,

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Speaker 1: that's relevant, mate, l sagab fair. But for the moment,

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Speaker 1: Perry Venakas from Nutrition ninety n ninety check him out, mate.

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Speaker 1: We love you and appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being on the show. Always great to see you, Craig Go,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Buddy, Bye,