WEBVTT - Sharri | 23 June

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Evening. It's a massive show tonight with huge interviews

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<v Speaker 2>after America's strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. Major guests coming

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<v Speaker 2>up live on the show Israeli military star Jonathan Conricus,

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<v Speaker 2>former British Commander Richard Kemp, who led forces in Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>and Iraq, Former Prime Minister Scott Morrison, Liberal Senator James Patterson,

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<v Speaker 2>and radio legend Ray Hadley all joining me live this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get the full astonishing details of Trump's midnight attack

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<v Speaker 2>and the pathetic Albanezy response. And let's start with the

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<v Speaker 2>new details emerging of how President Trump made the decision

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<v Speaker 2>to strike and exactly how this extraordinary military operation unfolded.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Trump was on Marine one flying over New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>when he took a call from Defense Secretary Peter Hegseth.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it was time for a final decision on

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<v Speaker 2>the strikes. Just two days earlier, Carolyn Levitt, his press secretary,

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<v Speaker 2>had told the media that Trump would decide in the

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<v Speaker 2>next week or two.

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<v Speaker 3>Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of

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<v Speaker 3>negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran

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<v Speaker 3>in the near future. I will make my decision whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not to go within the next two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But that comment was designed to keep the world guessing.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a reflection on the President's indecision. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just meant to throw the enemy off the scent instead

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<v Speaker 2>of giving advance warning of what was most likely coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And once the President gave Hegseeth the go ahead, he

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<v Speaker 2>then returned to Washington and called his closest advisors to

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<v Speaker 2>the White House Situation Room. And these are the images

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<v Speaker 2>from that meeting. You can see Trump with Secretary of

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<v Speaker 2>State Marco Rubio, Hegseeth, the CIA director John Ratcliffe, Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President JD. Vance, and security Advisor Andy Baker, and under

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<v Speaker 2>their watch, Operation Midnight Hammer began. There was a clever

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<v Speaker 2>deception plan with some B two bombers heading west captured

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<v Speaker 2>by public flight trackers, but the actual B two bombers

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<v Speaker 2>headed east toward Iran. It was a thirty seven hour

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<v Speaker 2>round flight for the pilots of these B two stealth bombers,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been reported they flew in silence. They took

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<v Speaker 2>turns to sleep, and even had a microwave and fridge

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<v Speaker 2>on board for food. A flight of fighter jets accompanied

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<v Speaker 2>the B twos as they approached Iran for added protection,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the same time Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched

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<v Speaker 2>from American submarines. In total, one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft were involved in this mission, including dozens of air

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<v Speaker 2>refueling and intelligence aircraft. The risk was reduced by Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>supremacy over Iranian airspace. This operation took place under the

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<v Speaker 2>cover of night, the bombers and missiles entering Iranian airspace

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<v Speaker 2>at two ten am local time. The nuclear sites of

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<v Speaker 2>fo Do, Ntanz and Esfahan were all hit in the

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<v Speaker 2>operation that lasted twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Minutes the attacked and the dead of night. These pictures

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<v Speaker 4>from Esfahan capture the site and sowned of the US

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<v Speaker 4>assault on Iranian nuclear sites.

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<v Speaker 2>And just to get an idea of how massive those

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<v Speaker 2>bombs are. They weigh thirteen thousand, six hundred kilograms, but

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<v Speaker 2>look how big they are in size compared to the

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<v Speaker 2>height of a six foot tall man. Now, fourteen of

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<v Speaker 2>those were dropped on the Nutance and the four Door facility.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you know by now, the four Door facility,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one that some eighty to ninety meters beneath

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Alvind south of Tehran. Both President Trump and Hegseth

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<v Speaker 2>said the nuclear sites had been destroyed. Trump was flanked

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<v Speaker 2>by Rubio, Hegseth, and JD. Vance when he announced that

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<v Speaker 2>the mission had been a success.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes

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<v Speaker 5>were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear and Richmond

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<v Speaker 5>facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking the next morning, Hegseeth agreed the nuclear program had

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<v Speaker 2>been destroyed.

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<v Speaker 6>We devastated the Iranian nuclear program. Iran's nuclear ambitions have

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<v Speaker 6>been obliterated. Many presidents have dreamed of delivering the final

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<v Speaker 6>blow to Iran's nuclear program, and none could until President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this was a single operation to demolish the nuclear sites.

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<v Speaker 2>But Trump has now left open the possibility of further

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<v Speaker 2>action if Iran retaliates, and his warning sends a clear.

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<v Speaker 5>Message around the bully of the Middle East must now

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<v Speaker 5>make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be

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<v Speaker 5>far greater and a lot easier. There will be either

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<v Speaker 5>peace or there will be tragedy for Iran, far greater

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<v Speaker 5>than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember,

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<v Speaker 5>there are many targets left, but if peace does not

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<v Speaker 5>come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed,

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<v Speaker 5>and skill. Most of them can be taken out in

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<v Speaker 5>a matter of minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And further to that, if Iran doesn't come to the

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<v Speaker 2>table and agree to peace, Trump now threatens there could

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<v Speaker 2>be regime change. He wrote on truth Social it's not

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<v Speaker 2>politically correct to use the term regime change, but if

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<v Speaker 2>the current Iranian regime is unable to make a run

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<v Speaker 2>great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? And

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<v Speaker 2>this comment came really not that long after Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Jade Vance said the strikes and Iran's nuclear sites had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with regime change.

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<v Speaker 7>But our review has been very clear that we don't

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<v Speaker 7>want a regime change. We do not want to protract

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<v Speaker 7>this or build this out any more than it's already

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<v Speaker 7>been built out. We want to end their nuclear program

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<v Speaker 7>and then we want to talk to the Iranians about

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<v Speaker 7>a long term settlement here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the Iotola and his Mullers are irrational extremists, and

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<v Speaker 2>the world would undoubtedly be safer if they weren't in control,

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<v Speaker 2>and Iranians would be better off without their cruel oppression,

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<v Speaker 2>But there is the unpredictability of who the Supreme Leader

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<v Speaker 2>Kamani could be replaced by, and there's the possibility it

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<v Speaker 2>would be an equally extremist leader or even worse. It's

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<v Speaker 2>up to the Iranians to rise up and demand democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not an easy feat and it is a

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<v Speaker 2>long shot. So for now, Trump threatens a round with

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<v Speaker 2>regime change or more attacks if it doesn't choose peace.

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<v Speaker 2>But the President's actions this weekend have also shaken the

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<v Speaker 2>axis of evil that consists of China, Russia, Iran and

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<v Speaker 2>North Korea. Trump has now re established American deterrence, which

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<v Speaker 2>was surrendered with Biden's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. Beijing and

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<v Speaker 2>Moscow have reason now to take pause. There are new

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<v Speaker 2>limits on their aggressive ambitions, and Albanize should also be

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<v Speaker 2>taking serious notice of the changing dynamics unfolding and global politics,

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<v Speaker 2>and he should realize that he's been on the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>side of his The Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pennywong

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<v Speaker 2>today said, perhaps through gritted teeth, that they endorsed the

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<v Speaker 2>American strikes in Iran. It took one twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>to work out that she did support America's action to

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<v Speaker 2>obliterate the nuclear sites.

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<v Speaker 8>So we support action to prevent Iran from obtaining a

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<v Speaker 8>nuclear weapon, and that is what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>But Albinizi is so weak that he refused to speak

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<v Speaker 2>publicly until he'd held a national security meeting. He needed

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting to tell him what to do. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have called one on Sunday, of course, right after the strikes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that would have been asking too much of the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister. He's only paid over six hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>after all. So he had his meeting today and then

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<v Speaker 2>he finally fronted the press.

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<v Speaker 9>The world has long agreed that Iran cannot be allowed

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<v Speaker 9>to get a nuclear weapon, and we support action to

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<v Speaker 9>prevent that.

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<v Speaker 10>That is what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean watching Albanize in Wong, it seemed like they've

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<v Speaker 2>been to a funeral having to come out and endorse

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's action in support of Israel. But they couldn't, in

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<v Speaker 2>all seriousness have opposed such an important move that's for

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<v Speaker 2>the clear benefit of mankind, stopping a depraved extremist regime

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<v Speaker 2>develop an atomic weapon. They had to support that. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the UK has confirmed it knew about the strikes ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time, but Australia was kept out of the loop.

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Miles was still calling for a return to dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>and de escalation less than two hours before the strikes

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<v Speaker 2>took place.

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<v Speaker 11>In this moment is seeking for greater diplomacy and dialogue

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<v Speaker 11>and a de escalation of the current conflict that's playing

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<v Speaker 11>out in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>PHAPS. He would have taken a different tune had he

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<v Speaker 2>known the American strikes were in action, even I'd heard

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<v Speaker 2>a whisper and the hours before they took place, But

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanezy government hadn't. That is alarming and my national

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<v Speaker 2>security sources have told me that Australia was not given

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<v Speaker 2>fore warning before the strikes, but the UK was. The

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister was too embarrassed to admit this today that

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't know. He wouldn't directly answer the question.

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<v Speaker 9>The UK has been one of the countries that's been

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<v Speaker 9>at the negotiating table with Iran for many years on

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<v Speaker 9>its NEWCOO weapons program.

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<v Speaker 6>Your government breathed prior to the Attabitan.

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<v Speaker 9>This was unilateral action taken by the United States. This

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<v Speaker 9>was unilateral action taken by the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>So embarrassing for him, and he abruptly ended that press

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<v Speaker 2>conference after just nine minutes walking out, our journalists still

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<v Speaker 2>had questions to ask and I'm going to speak with

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<v Speaker 2>James Patterson about this shortly. But the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>UK was briefed goes to the good relationship that Keir

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<v Speaker 2>Starmer has managed to forge with Donald Trump. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship that is nonexistent for Albanesi. Australia is out in

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<v Speaker 2>the cold thanks to this pathetic government. Albinizi and wog

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<v Speaker 2>have made our nation irrelevant on the global stage through absurd,

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<v Speaker 2>confused and morality free foreign policy. And you'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>say now that Alberinizi is the most inconsequential prime minister

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<v Speaker 2>in global politics in a long time. It's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>to eight months since Trump won the election, eight months

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<v Speaker 2>and Albanizi has never had a face to face meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a new low in American and Australian relations

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<v Speaker 2>and the only worse international leadership has come from the

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<v Speaker 2>United Nations. Antonio Guteris should be celebrating America removing the

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear threat from Iran. Instead he's objecting to it. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what he said on social media. He said, I am

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<v Speaker 2>gravely alarmed by the use of force by the United

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<v Speaker 2>States against Iran today. This is a dangerous escalation in

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<v Speaker 2>a region already on edge and a direct threat to

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<v Speaker 2>international peace and security. He said, at this perilous hour,

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<v Speaker 2>it is critical to avoid a spiral of chaos. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no military solution, he says, the only path forward is diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 2>The only hope is peace. I mean, that is the

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<v Speaker 2>worst possible analysis of the situation. It's Iran that has

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<v Speaker 2>continued to use force and terrorism against the West for decades,

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<v Speaker 2>most recently financing and sparking the October seven massacre. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>even after this, Tehran was given the option of deploymacy

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<v Speaker 2>and five months of negotiations with the Trump administration, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's still refused to give up its nuclear ambitions. Compare

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and edin Yahoo's courage with Albanezi's spineless timidity and

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<v Speaker 2>the United Nations appeasement of terrorism and moral depravity. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no comparison Trump and Nettignao, who have formed quite the

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<v Speaker 2>formidable partnership of our time. It's a conversation I'll come

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<v Speaker 2>back to later in the show with Timothy Lynch. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a professor of American politics, and there's no question that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump made the right call in taking this military action.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only sensible decision. Another trade deal with Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>like former US presidents chose to do, would have only

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<v Speaker 2>given this dangerous and murderous regime billions of dollars, billions

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<v Speaker 2>to finance another wave of terror against Israel and the West,

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<v Speaker 2>billions to finance and re empower their proxies Harmus and Hesbela,

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<v Speaker 2>after Israel has spent the past twenty months weakening them,

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<v Speaker 2>and in doing this action and the way he went

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<v Speaker 2>about it, the President of the United States showed he

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<v Speaker 2>is capable of calm, rational decisions. He followed a careful

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<v Speaker 2>and considered process. He didn't rush into this. He weighed

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<v Speaker 2>his options and the consequences. He has shown himself to

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<v Speaker 2>be a leader of our time.

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<v Speaker 4>OGA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cross live to Israel now, where I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 2>retired Lieutenant Colonel, former IDF spokesman Jonathan Conricus, who's now

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<v Speaker 2>senior Fellow at the Foundation for Devents Democracies and co

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<v Speaker 2>founder of bottom Line Media. Jonathan, thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for your time. Once again now just to start the

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news this evening, Iran's foreign ministers meeting with Russia

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<v Speaker 2>as we speak. Do you think there is a chance

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<v Speaker 2>that Russia could support a run against Israel.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello, Sherry, thanks for having me on. I think it's

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<v Speaker 12>the first time on your show, but I'm very happy

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<v Speaker 12>to be here. Regarding Russia, you know, the interesting statement

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<v Speaker 12>that apparently was released by the Kremlin is that Russia

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<v Speaker 12>seeks to support the Iranian people. And that's an interesting statement.

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<v Speaker 12>It could indicate that the Russians are hedging their beds

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<v Speaker 12>and they are assessing the situation with regards to the regime.

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<v Speaker 12>And if I were an Iranian regime spokesperson, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 12>be very happy with that statement. I would have wanted

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<v Speaker 12>something much stronger from Iran's closest strategic ally, and they're

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<v Speaker 12>not getting it. So, you know, there's never any telling

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<v Speaker 12>what Putin will do, and decision making in Russia is

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<v Speaker 12>always very complex and interesting, so I wouldn't want to assess.

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<v Speaker 12>I just you know, observe that there is They have

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<v Speaker 12>a full plate of their own, do the Russians. They

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<v Speaker 12>are challenged by the situation, and usually the saying in

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<v Speaker 12>military affairs and strategy is that you never throw good

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<v Speaker 12>money after a losing horse, and Iran in this case

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<v Speaker 12>they're losing, So it wouldn't make sense for the Russians

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<v Speaker 12>to invest resources that they apparently don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of after someone who one of their allies that is

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<v Speaker 12>apparently not doing very well on the battlefield. So I'd

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<v Speaker 12>say a cautious no, and I'll be watching the space

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<v Speaker 12>of you know, the messaging here. Interesting that they chose

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<v Speaker 12>to focus on the Iranian people and not Kaminai so

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<v Speaker 12>called supreme leader, and not the Islamic regime.

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<v Speaker 2>No, a very good point there. Now, there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of discussion since the strikes yesterday over whether the

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear sites were completely obliterated. With you military background, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your assessment of this question.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, my military background says that we have to

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<v Speaker 12>be patient in order to get final intel, which is

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<v Speaker 12>based on real, hard evidence that can indicate what exactly

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<v Speaker 12>is the extent of the damage that has been inflicted

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<v Speaker 12>at four Dou. I think the other sites are a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit easier to assess because most of the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 12>is above ground, and therefore it's easier to understand. For

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<v Speaker 12>DOAU is underground and it will take longer time, but

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<v Speaker 12>I think we can. You know, Israel reportedly conducted strikes

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<v Speaker 12>air strikes on four Door just a few hours ago

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<v Speaker 12>after the American strike, So perhaps there's need for additional targeting.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't yet know the reason why, but I think

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<v Speaker 12>one thing is pretty clear this conflict, this war will

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<v Speaker 12>only end once four Doau is totally destroyed, dismantled, and

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<v Speaker 12>this destroyed to such a level that the Uranians won't

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<v Speaker 12>be able to salvage centrifuges or any other part of

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<v Speaker 12>their critical infrastructure. So whether it was destroyed now or

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<v Speaker 12>we will need to do a second and a third run,

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's less pertinent. The end will be a

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<v Speaker 12>destruction of FODO and an effective end to Iran's malign

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<v Speaker 12>nuclear weapons intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also the International Atomic Energy Agency. They release the

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<v Speaker 2>statement today saying that Iran has a stockpile of more

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<v Speaker 2>than four hundred kilograms of highly enriched uranium, which agency

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<v Speaker 2>inspectors last verified a few days before the military conflict began.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jonathan, again, this is also something that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be addressed if it hasn't been already. Does Israel know

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<v Speaker 2>where this is located and will it be destroyed or removed?

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<v Speaker 12>So I think we can and the viewers at home

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<v Speaker 12>and people around the world, can I think assess that

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<v Speaker 12>Israel has pretty good intel when it comes to Iran.

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<v Speaker 12>Israel has been collecting, assessing intel, and preparing itself for

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<v Speaker 12>this moment for quite a few years, and I think,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, I don't think that is what would you

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<v Speaker 12>forget to deal with such an important and critical.

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<v Speaker 13>Piece of asset.

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<v Speaker 12>So my bet is that Israel is not only following,

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<v Speaker 12>but actually knows where that material is and is taking

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<v Speaker 12>the necessary steps in order to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 12>are never turned into weapons. Now, of course, dealing with

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<v Speaker 12>radioactive or highly enriched material is a different bargain. Israel

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<v Speaker 12>has to be careful and there are certain safeguards. I

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<v Speaker 12>don't think that Israel wants to create an environmental catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 12>And of course, wherever the Iranians have tried to hide it,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sure that Israel is on top of that and

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<v Speaker 12>following it. But bottom line, I understand that journalists around

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<v Speaker 12>the world, especially those who wish to minimize President Trump's

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<v Speaker 12>achievement and the Israeli achievement against the Iran's nuclear program

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<v Speaker 12>and to show that, oh well, not everything has been

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<v Speaker 12>taken care of, I would recommend that they be a

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<v Speaker 12>bit more cautious and a bit more modest in their

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<v Speaker 12>assessments and judge by action.

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<v Speaker 13>So far, so far, I.

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<v Speaker 12>Think Israel has demonstrated complete intel dominance and operational dominance,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think we should assume that Israel is pretty

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<v Speaker 12>well aware of the whereabouts of said enriched uranium.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quickly before you go. In a message this evening

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister Benjaminetti and Yao who said that Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is very close to achieving its war goals in Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said the next step is the expansion of

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<v Speaker 2>the Abraham Accords. I mean this clearly is how the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister is hoping to reshape the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, it's more.

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<v Speaker 12>How I think he and many Israelis are hoping to

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<v Speaker 12>finally have Israel live without terror organizations that constantly attack us,

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<v Speaker 12>and without the fear of extinction by a weapon of

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<v Speaker 12>mass destruction in the hands of a absolutely crazy and

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<v Speaker 12>fanatical regime.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think that's where we're heading. I hope that

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<v Speaker 13>it will.

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<v Speaker 12>Be prosperous and good and positive for the Iranian people,

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<v Speaker 12>for other people in the region, and definitely the Abram Accords.

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<v Speaker 12>That is an excellent vehicle to do exactly that prosperity, peace, normalization, trade, economy, commerce,

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<v Speaker 12>all of those beautiful things that usually benefit people and

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<v Speaker 12>also companies and countries. I hope that will happen, and

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<v Speaker 12>I think by defeating Iran, Israel will be doing a

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<v Speaker 12>great service to the region, enhancing the chances of prosperity.

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<v Speaker 13>I hope that the Iranian people will be able.

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<v Speaker 12>To free itself of that horrible, oppressive, coronen malfunctioning regime

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<v Speaker 12>that has been oppressing them for forty six years.

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<v Speaker 13>But that's up to the Iranian people to decide.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Conricas really appreciate your time in the show. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much. That's Jonathan Live in Israel.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that long ago that Joe Biden was withholding

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<v Speaker 2>weapons from Israel and demanding a cease fire. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>no wonder that Israelis are extremely grateful to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>with billboards in Tel Aviv lit up with the words

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, mister President, let's bring you now. Former Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Scott Morrison, Scott, thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see you. Do you agree this is true

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<v Speaker 2>leadership from President Trump in taking the necessary action to

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate the nuclear threat from Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 11>This is something that presidents have been seeking to achieve,

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<v Speaker 11>and that is the distruction of around's nuclear capabilities for decades.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, they've tried diplomacy over and over again.

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<v Speaker 11>The JCPOA, which was as President Trump described it many

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<v Speaker 11>years ago when I was Prime Minister, it was a

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<v Speaker 11>bad deal. It was a bad deal. It wasn't achieving

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<v Speaker 11>that deal. Some years later, October seventh, we saw the

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<v Speaker 11>most vile defilement of a nation in what occurred to

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<v Speaker 11>the Jewish people on that day, the worst day since

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<v Speaker 11>the Holocaust. And you know what we've seen now is

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<v Speaker 11>finally after the fall of Hamasaf, the fall of his Blah.

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<v Speaker 11>And along the way there was the fall of the

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<v Speaker 11>Sad regime, and now the Iranian regime hangs by a thread.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, I think it's extraordinary what he's been

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<v Speaker 11>able to do. And it wasn't it wasn't an easy

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<v Speaker 11>thing for to do. It wasn't something he rushed to do.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not something it's not his preferred option, but he

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<v Speaker 11>was prepared to take the action.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he should be commended for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I agree with you, And it's not just the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats who are saying he should be impeached, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>even critics within Ay his own party who were mounting

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<v Speaker 2>the argument that America shouldn't be involved in a foreign war.

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<v Speaker 2>They say it's not their war. But Scott Morrison, what

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<v Speaker 2>threat does Iran pos to the West, even Australia, not

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<v Speaker 2>just Israel.

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<v Speaker 11>When I was PM, I talked about an ark of

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<v Speaker 11>autocracy that went all the way from Pyeongyang to Tehran

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<v Speaker 11>and took in Beijing and of course took in Moscow.

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<v Speaker 11>And Iran have been an important part of that ark,

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<v Speaker 11>and they have worked together, as we saw in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean the Uranians working together. What was happening in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 11>We've seen them swapping notes, encouraging each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>we've got the Iranian foreign minister who's ducked off to Moscow,

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<v Speaker 11>and we've got the Chinese government which is criticizing the

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<v Speaker 11>United States. You know that they're swapping notes and they're

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<v Speaker 11>working together, and they've been doing it.

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<v Speaker 13>For some time.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is a very significant blow to that ark,

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<v Speaker 11>I believe, and I think it. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>when you just stop and think about the fact that

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<v Speaker 11>Iran's nuclear capability has been destroyed. I mean that is

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<v Speaker 11>a Middle East game changer, and not just for Israel,

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<v Speaker 11>not just for Israel, but I think it is the

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<v Speaker 11>opportunity to create a stability in the Middle East that'll

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<v Speaker 11>be welcomed by golf countries and to ensure that they

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<v Speaker 11>can return to pursuing peace for their own countries, for commerce,

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 11>for engagement, for all of these sorts of things. I

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<v Speaker 11>think this is potentially a major turning point for the

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<v Speaker 11>Middle East after so many decades of where it's just

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<v Speaker 11>been a woeful tale of despair.

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<v Speaker 2>So well said, I couldn't agree with you more, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wish more of that sentiment was reflected in the

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<v Speaker 2>media and in political commentary now it Scott Morrison, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to ask you this, If you were Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>right now, would you have taken over twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>to come out and express the port for America's strikes

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<v Speaker 2>against Iran.

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<v Speaker 11>No, And there was no need for it to take

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<v Speaker 11>that long. And I mean, of course you would have

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 11>taken constant you would have taken advice in terms of

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 11>what had actually happened and where it had happened, and

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 11>what had been the nature of the strikes and what

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<v Speaker 11>intelligence did we have and what had we been informed

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<v Speaker 11>of by our allies and so on, And that's quite reasonable.

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<v Speaker 11>If it was necessary, I would have convened the National

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<v Speaker 11>Security Committee on the Sunday if it was indeed necessary

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<v Speaker 11>for the simple sake of actually being able to make

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<v Speaker 11>a statement as Prime Minister. That potentially could have been

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<v Speaker 11>done just simply between the Minister for Defense and the

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 11>Minister of Foreign Affairs. But if the Prime Minister wishes

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<v Speaker 11>to do that with a full National Security Committee, that's

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<v Speaker 11>fair enough and that should have been convened on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 11>I can't remember how many National Security Committee meanings I've

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<v Speaker 11>convened on Sundays and Saturdays and all sorts of ours,

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<v Speaker 11>given the issues we were dealing with at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not irregular.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, our national secure officials are not shocked to

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<v Speaker 11>be called at short notice to attend the National Security Committee.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was significant.

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<v Speaker 11>It was a moment of opportunity, I think for Australia

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<v Speaker 11>to make a very clear statement. And I must admit,

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<v Speaker 11>when you know I was asked about this yesterday, Sharriet,

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<v Speaker 11>it wasn't really something I was looking to get engaged

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<v Speaker 11>with publicly. But there's been so much ambiguity about the

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 11>government's position on the Middle East and on Israel and

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<v Speaker 11>October seven, and honestly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ambiguity must cease.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, surely now, surely now we can have a

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<v Speaker 11>clear position and understand that what the United States is.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing is the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 11>It's And the other thing I'd say is this show.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is your message to the alban Easy government.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're saying, stop being ambiguous when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy. Support our allies. That's what you're saying, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, I mean the United States. For those who

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<v Speaker 11>want to live in the fairyland that thinks that without

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<v Speaker 11>an alliance with the United States we somehow have a

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<v Speaker 11>defense arrangement, that somehow Australia would be the only country

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<v Speaker 11>other than the United States that would be able to

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<v Speaker 11>resist the type of potential offense that would be leveled

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<v Speaker 11>at Australia and do it in isolation. This is absolute,

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<v Speaker 11>La La land. The United States is our most important ally.

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<v Speaker 11>And whether it was the Howard government or was with

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<v Speaker 11>my government, whether it was you know, during times of

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<v Speaker 11>the rug government, the Guillaud government, there was an instinctive,

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 11>an instinctive alignment with the United States. And I can't

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<v Speaker 11>tell you why he waited until today before saying something.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know the answer to that question. Was it

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<v Speaker 11>to align with what other governments like the UK and

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<v Speaker 11>Canada and to align with their messaging. I don't know.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 11>Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 11>you in the United States and you take an action

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 11>like this, and it wouldn't have been an easy call

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 11>for the president. This is not something he would have

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 11>been rushing to do, itching to do, but you'd want

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 11>to know your allies were with you. And how hard

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 11>is it to go? Well done, mister President on taking

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 11>out the new killer capabilities of a despotic authoritarian regime

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 11>that you know imposes all sorts of extinguishment of liberties

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 11>on their.

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<v Speaker 1>Own people should be regime that should be. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>We need to be careful about offending.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the most uncontroversial thing to say. Scott Morrison.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>We miss your moral clarity more than I can say.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for joining me tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>Nice to talk to you, Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you too, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now my national security sources have confirmed that Australia was

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<v Speaker 2>not given advance warning like the UK was of America constrikes,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and as I said, this is a reflection of the

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>fact Albanezi has no relationship with the President joining US

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>now Liberal Senator James Patterson. James, if Australia had a

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>close relationship with the United States, we might have been

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>brought into the loop like our British ally was.

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<v Speaker 14>Sharry, I don't know the reason why we weren't informed,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 14>as your reporting indicates in advance about this operation. There

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 14>are perfectly plausible and innocent reasons why that might have

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 14>been the case, for example, operational security on a highly

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 14>sensitive mission that was very tightly held. But it is

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 14>also possible that one of the reasons why we weren't

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 14>told is because there is a lack of trust or

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 14>a lack of rapport between the president and our prime minister,

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 14>who has failed to establish a personal relationship with the

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 14>president now seven months on from when he was elected.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 14>And I think it is instructive to see the other

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 14>world leader who was informed was Keir Starmer, who has

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 14>done perhaps better than any other world leader in establishing

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 14>that personal relationship with President Trump. So that may be

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 14>the reason why the UK was informed and we were not,

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 14>And if that is the case, then that will be

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 14>a very worrying development, but something that the Prime Minister

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 14>should be aiming to remedy as soon as possible by

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 14>going to Washington, DC, meeting with the President and establishing

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 14>that personal relationship.

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get back to alban easy in just

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a minute. But why do you support this action, Jameson,

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and why do you think this is so important for

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 2>American deterrence.

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<v Speaker 14>I support it in its own right for its own merits,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 14>because I think it is a good thing that hopefully

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 14>Iran's nuclear enrichment program has been set back many years,

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 14>if not a decade. That will be good for its

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 14>own reason. But I also support it because I think

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 14>it is very important to reassert American deterrence, and not

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 14>just in the Middle East, but globally, including in Inno Pacific.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 14>There's been some pretty low rent strategic analysis out there

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 14>in recent months about so called Taco Trump. Trump always

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 14>chickens out that this has punctured in a very welcome way,

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 14>and it also pushes back on the more sophisticated analysis

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 14>that's been running the line that Trump is an isolationist.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 14>This proves in fact, the President is not an isolationist,

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 14>that he is comfortable with the judicious deployment of American

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 14>military power, and he's willing to do so in the

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 14>service of America's national interest. And I hope that every

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 14>would be dictator and aggressor around the world has taken

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 14>note of this and now factors that in to their

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 14>own calculations about their own plans for expansion or aggression

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 14>in their own region, and has more doubt in their

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 14>minds this week than they did last week about whether

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 14>or not America will push back, because it is a

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 14>much better thing for all of us if dictators are

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 14>worried that America under President Trump will do something about

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 14>their ambitions.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, completely agree, James. We just heard some extremely strong

0:32:54.600 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>comments from Scott Morrison about the delay and the weakness

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>of Albanese's comments to this. Do you agree that the

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Australian official position has been unacceptable?

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Shary.

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 14>I think it's a good thing that the Prime Minister

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 14>and the Foreign Minister eventually arrived at the correct position

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 14>this morning to support the United States and welcome their action,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 14>but I am baffled as to why it took them

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 14>twenty four hours or longer to get to that position.

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 14>This should have been an easy one. Our closest ally,

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 14>our most important strategic partner, took action to prevent a

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 14>theocratic autocracy from obtaining a nuclear weapon which they have

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 14>said they intend to use to one day ripe Israel

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 14>off the map. And a regime which has been at

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 14>war with the United States and its allies for forty years,

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 14>which chanced death to America, and whose supreme religious leader

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 14>that Aetolahamine, has said that those chants are not just

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 14>a slogan, it's a policy.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 15>So for there to be.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 14>Any ambiguity in the Prime Minister or the Foreign Minister's

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 14>position about this, I think he's inexplicable. But I am

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 14>glad that eventually they found their way to the right position.

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, James Patterson, you have more forgiving than I am.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for coming on now still to

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 2>come and inside look at this meticulous military operation. I'll

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>speak about that with former British Commander Richard Kemp and

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>shocking scenes on Ozzie Streets as ignorant protesters back the

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 2>extremist Iran regime. Ray Hadley, we'll rip in next Welcome back,

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and to further discuss the shocking Australian response and the

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>extraordinary developments over the past twenty four hours. Let's bring

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in now radio legend Ray Hadley.

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 8>Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's start with these concerning scenes that we've seen

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>in Sydney yesterday. Pro Palestinian crowd suddenly started supporting this

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>radical extremist regime. There's this one photograph, I mean, never

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 2>mind the fact they've been executing women for daring not

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to cover their hair, this photograph shows a protest to

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 2>holding up a picture of Ayotola Ali Kamani, I mean, Ray,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>how ignorant are these people of what's actually going on

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 2>in Iran?

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 10>Well, the people who gather, it's no different to what

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 10>happened October eight nine and ten, I mean ill informed

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 10>oaths and then Marine Faricki and others there, you know,

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 10>jollying them along. She should be more concerned about what's

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 10>happening in Pakistan with India as opposed to what happening

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 10>in the Middle East. But look the rivet of the

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 10>sea chant, it's been dispelled. If you're an historian, even

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 10>with a little modicum of common sense, you understand that

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 10>the Jewish faith have been there a lot longer. They're

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 10>not chlonized in any way being a colony there. They

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 10>haven't colonized that particular area.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Jews are indigenous to the land. It's nonsense, it's not.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 10>But see, I saw something today that mate sent me.

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.959
<v Speaker 10>It was an American thing. And they asked a question

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 10>of a woman and she said, and she was protesting

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 10>along the same lines of what we're putting up with

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 10>here yesterday, and she said, well, they're Muslims. He said,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 10>here's Muslims. He said, oh, the Jewish. You know, the

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 10>people in Israel there muslim He said, that's the other side,

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 10>you know. And most of the people protesting, not all

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 10>of them, but most of them are young ones who

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 10>had no idea what happened during the war, the Holocaust.

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.479
<v Speaker 10>They've got no idea of what was the Jewish faith

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 10>was subjected to by Hitler and the Nazis. They're rewriting

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 10>history and it's so annoying. And any chance to bash

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 10>up Donald Trump. The rest of the world is applauding him.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 10>And I read a thing by Joe Hildebrand today where

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 10>he said we should be thanking Donald Trump. Agreed, and

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 10>everyone should exactly take Jay's leader and thinking, because they

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 10>get nuclear capabilities, we're all in strife.

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, We're all in trouble, no question. And sometimes I

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>think Albinizi and Pennywong are almost as ignerient as those

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 2>as those protests.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 10>You've got to forgive the our minister because deep, deep.

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Because he was one of those protests.

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 10>Thank you, you've got me now, I interject all the time.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 13>No, you're exactly right.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 10>You know, he was in a CAF a few decades

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 10>ago and he was protesting, you know. And so it's

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 10>not in his soul, it's not in his DNA. It's

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 10>certainly not in Petty Wong's DNA. And I gave them

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 10>a bit of a tickle up this morning on the

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 10>telegraph and said you've either got to do your business

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 10>or get off the pot because and he hasn't done

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 10>that yet. She was everywhere this morning saying, oh, we

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 10>support Donald Trump, we support We can't allow this, but

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 10>there was a writer we've got to work towards peace.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 10>How do you have peace with a raving lunatic who

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 10>puts homosexuals to death, who won't allow women to go

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 10>to school, girls to go to school. Women are not

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 10>second class citizens in Iran, their third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 10>and seventh. In fact, I think some of the herded

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 10>animals might come in front of them. And so how

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 10>do you negotiat How does our foreign minute to say,

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 10>let's negotiate with a raving lunatic.

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't not to have nuclear weapons. I mean, it

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get more serious. She was questioned on why they

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 2>took so long to twenty four hours.

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 10>To come into the tea party.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, probably it would have been more priority. Here's what

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>she said in answer to that question.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 7>Why has it taken almost twenty four hours from Gona

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 7>to provide support to the US.

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 8>I think if you look at our statement release by

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 8>the government yesterday, we may clear what we have always said,

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 8>which is the international community, including Australia, I has long

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 8>believed that Ouran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon. I think

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 8>that was very.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Clear, except that it wasn't very clear. Ray It didn't

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>say the sort of meinly Mouth release said simply we

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>want peace.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it didn't say we are with our allies. Look,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 10>as I've said many times, we are a large content

0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 10>with a small population. The Americans save this in World

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 10>War II from what was happening up north. There's no

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 10>doubt they saved us. And if we want to be

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 10>saved again from some other person that may want a

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 10>bit of our territory and a bit of our wealth

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 10>in terms of what we have on the ground here,

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 10>we're going to be calling the Americans again. I mean,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 10>we are not a race of people who will know

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 10>dof our caps to people. We're fairly proud, but at

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 10>the end of the day, we're twenty five twenty six

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 10>million people and we need the United States of America.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 10>Might if something might happen in the future now, Donald

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 10>Trump would be fully entitled to say, well, listen, fellas,

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 10>where were you when we knewed you?

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 2>Ye? And he might tear up He might tear up all.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 10>Because the Prime Minister has done nothing today to allay

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 10>those fears. He has done nothing. And I saw Scott Morrison,

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 10>God bless him.

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't he excellent?

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 10>Well for the first time. And I know when they

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 10>leave politics, the last thing they want to do is

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 10>bag the opposition, you know, a bit of respect for

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 10>the position he'll as Prime minister. But he was strong

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 10>and he said some very sensible things about the Prime Minister.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 10>The Prime Minister from day one has been weak as

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 10>water in relation to the Jewish and the attack by Hamas.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 10>And at the end of the end of any day,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 10>if you support Gaza, you support her mass a terrorist

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 10>organization no better than the terrorist organization in Iran that

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 10>we're confronting at the moment. So, I mean, I don't

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 10>know what he gets, but as I said, maybe it's

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 10>in his DNA and there's a little birdy in the

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 10>back of his mind saying now be careful, because remember

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 10>how you really think about this issue, from your university

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 10>days and all the rest of it. Maybe there's still

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 10>a part of you that thinks that way.

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, if Scott Morrison was still the

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister, or Kevin Rudd, or Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott,

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>any of the others, they all would have held a

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>press conference on the Sunday, no question backing in America.

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 10>Look, Julia Gillard would have been right on the front foot.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 10>I've got no doubt about it. And you know, God

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.720
<v Speaker 10>bless her getting the Royal Commissioner to the Child Abuse

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 10>up and running with Tony Abbott's help, but she was

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<v Speaker 10>a strong person. We've got a Prime minister who lapped

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<v Speaker 10>the opposition back at lapped the opposition, and it looks

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<v Speaker 10>like he's gone into his shell again. It's bizarre and

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<v Speaker 10>it's scary that we're being led by someone who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 10>know he's wa'sing my caller from his elbow.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree with you, utterly, but I'm comforted by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact the whole world knows that it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>us dealing with it on our own. The United States

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<v Speaker 2>President knows what we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 10>You, yeah, exactly, and I think even you know, the

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<v Speaker 10>Labor Party in Great Britain realized what we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 10>as well, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Hadley, love having you here every Monday. I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you next Monday.

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<v Speaker 16>I'll look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. All right. Still to come from

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<v Speaker 2>a British Commander Richard Kemp joins US live from Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>plus a report by Jonathan Lee with inside detail on

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<v Speaker 2>the top secret strikes. Welcome back, and for more on

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<v Speaker 2>the brilliant US mission. Let's bring in from British Commander

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Camp, who led British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Colonel,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for your time once again as

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<v Speaker 2>a military commander. What impressed you most about this mission

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<v Speaker 2>and do you think that the outcomes were achieve this

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear threat has now been removed.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I think the whole thing was extremely impressive, with

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<v Speaker 16>the United States Air Force, Navy as well involved carrying

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<v Speaker 16>out an operation in close coordination with the Israel Defense

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<v Speaker 16>Force to smash up Iran's nuclear capabilities, and I think

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<v Speaker 16>probably the details of the bombs, etc. Very very impressive,

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<v Speaker 16>unique in the world. But I think one of the

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<v Speaker 16>most impressive things is a flight of thirty six hours

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<v Speaker 16>round trip from Missouri to Iran, involving multiple refuelings, without

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<v Speaker 16>what appears to be without a hit, and without even

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<v Speaker 16>a single Iranian anti aircraft gun or aircraft getting to

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<v Speaker 16>the sky to stop them.

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<v Speaker 1>They went in, they went.

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<v Speaker 16>Out, that no one knew anything about it apart from

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<v Speaker 16>the explosions. That's extremely impressive. Nobody really knows what the

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<v Speaker 16>actual damage that has been done on these sites. I think,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, President Trump says that they've been obliterated.

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<v Speaker 1>I've no doubt that huge damage has.

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<v Speaker 16>Been done, but it does take time to do a

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<v Speaker 16>proper assessment, so I think we'll have to wait and

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<v Speaker 16>see what comes out of that assessment. They may well

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<v Speaker 16>have been utterly destroyed, may be a need for a

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<v Speaker 16>return trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was interesting hearing from Jonathan Conricus earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this hour about the fact that Israel has gone back

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<v Speaker 2>over the four Doah site just in the past few

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<v Speaker 2>hours and launched more hits on the site, so perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>to further obliterate it. So I guess we'll hear in

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<v Speaker 2>the coming days just the extent of the damage and

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<v Speaker 2>whether it has been destroyed. Colonel I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you as well. You just mentioned that the intricacies of

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty six or thirty seven hour flight for those

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<v Speaker 2>B two stealth bombers. What are some of the coordination

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<v Speaker 2>that needs to be involved for something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the refueling during the flight. This is a complex operation.

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<v Speaker 16>Highly complex, and of course I think there was something

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<v Speaker 16>like I may be wrong here, but around about one

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<v Speaker 16>hundred United States aircraft involved overall, in terms of the

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<v Speaker 16>actual bombers themselves, the refueling aircraft, the escort aircraft, aircraft

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<v Speaker 16>involved in suppression of air defense systems, all of that

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<v Speaker 16>coordinating that is enormous and not forgetting the coordination with Israelis,

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<v Speaker 16>who pretty much control the airspace over around these days

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<v Speaker 16>and have their own combat planes in the air as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think actually.

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<v Speaker 16>Two planning an operation like this, It's immensely detailed and

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<v Speaker 16>mensely complex, and it will have taken weeks to do it.

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<v Speaker 16>It's not something that President Drum suddenly woke up in

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<v Speaker 16>the morning and said, let's attack. This will have been

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<v Speaker 16>planned in coordinating with Israelis for probably for many many weeks,

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<v Speaker 16>if not months.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Israel began its campaign.

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<v Speaker 16>Potentially, yes, I think, and certainly this kind of planning

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<v Speaker 16>would have taken place at least in outline. And it

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<v Speaker 16>kind of belies the narrative that some people were trying

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<v Speaker 16>to build up before the America suggesting it was division

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<v Speaker 16>between Israel and the United States with Netaniohu and Trump,

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<v Speaker 16>which very clearly was not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was rubbish. It's also interesting that the US

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<v Speaker 2>chose to just hit those three nuclear sites. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it could have gone after other missile launcher sites or

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<v Speaker 2>other military sites, but it chose to not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that was the right call? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think their action should have been a bit more expansive.

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<v Speaker 1>What they did was what they should have done.

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<v Speaker 16>And you know, the IDF has been in the air

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<v Speaker 16>perpetually for the last week over Iran, taking bits of

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<v Speaker 16>the regime out, taking out their ballistic missile capabilities, their launchers,

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<v Speaker 16>some of the as we know, some of the key

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<v Speaker 16>regime infrastructure, targets, air defense systems, all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the IDEF forgot that.

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<v Speaker 16>I don't think they need United States Air Force to help,

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<v Speaker 16>but we shouldn't forget that the US Air Force has

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<v Speaker 16>been and the US Navy of course has been in

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<v Speaker 16>action for the whole of this campaign, helping to defend

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<v Speaker 16>Israel from ballistic missile attacks, from aurum drone attacks, and

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<v Speaker 16>not forgetting that the US anti air air defense launchers

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<v Speaker 16>are based inside Israel, the third in particular, that are

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<v Speaker 16>manned by American.

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<v Speaker 1>Soldiers protecting Israel.

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<v Speaker 16>So it's the US has been extensively involved since the

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<v Speaker 16>stop intelligence as well, it's been involved the start. I

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<v Speaker 16>think this was just one element of the campaign, and

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<v Speaker 16>I don't think the Americans to do more than what

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<v Speaker 16>they've done so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I so I want to ask you about the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of deception. You know, very cleverly, there were b two

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<v Speaker 2>bombers that were caught on flight trackers going in the

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<v Speaker 2>other direction, catching everyone off guard. Nedinna who has also

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about how crucial the element of surprise is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a commander yourself, this does give you the advantage

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<v Speaker 2>having these roses this deception involved.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I mean apart from the actual kinetic action itself

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<v Speaker 16>from bombing something or hitting something with tanks or arteria

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<v Speaker 16>or whatever. Apart from that, the two most important elements

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<v Speaker 16>I think in warfare are first of all, intelligence, and

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<v Speaker 16>you've got to have the most precise intelligence to carry

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<v Speaker 16>out an operation like this, and secondly, a surprise. Surprise

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<v Speaker 16>in many cases, in many battles, in many engagements in history,

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<v Speaker 16>have turned around a situation that could have gone badly wrong,

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<v Speaker 16>but due to the surprise elements. And I think things

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<v Speaker 16>like President Trump saying I think it was a day

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<v Speaker 16>before this strike took place.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give it.

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<v Speaker 16>On up to two weeks now, that would have probably

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<v Speaker 16>led most people to believe he meant probably around about

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<v Speaker 16>two weeks, not about two or three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, all right, Richard Kemp, Colonel, really appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, Thank you so much. Welcome after the break

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<v Speaker 2>inside detail into this top secret mission. That's next. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's have a look now at some more detail about

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<v Speaker 2>the top secret mission to take out Iran's nuclear sites,

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<v Speaker 2>requiring one hundred and twenty five aircraft.

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<v Speaker 15>Jonathan Lee reports America's bat winged B two bombers worth

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<v Speaker 15>more than three billion Aussie dollars each return home to

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<v Speaker 15>Missouri from Operation Midnight Hammer.

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<v Speaker 17>The Middle East slept as seven bombers with fighter escorts

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<v Speaker 17>sliced through a ram's airspace As America for the first

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<v Speaker 17>time dropped its combusting bombs fourteen in total designed.

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<v Speaker 2>For just this mission. At least six hit.

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<v Speaker 17>Uranium in Richmond sited Fado buried in the mountain side.

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<v Speaker 17>Then they struck another at Nranz and Isfahan, a key

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<v Speaker 17>research base, was struck by missiles fired from a submarine.

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<v Speaker 6>It was an incredible and overwhelming success.

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<v Speaker 17>In the classic decoy, the Pentagon had declared its strike

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<v Speaker 17>weapons would be prepositioned to the Pacific of the ten

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<v Speaker 17>plane cent seven broke east. These pitches captured the situation

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<v Speaker 17>room during the thirty seven hour flight. Pilots in this

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<v Speaker 17>separate video had access to a toilet, microwave and snack cooler,

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<v Speaker 17>sleeping in rotations that met secret rendezvous points, upholding radio silence,

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<v Speaker 17>repueling in the air time and again.

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<v Speaker 18>More than one hundred and twenty five US aircraft participated

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<v Speaker 18>in this mission, multiple flights of fourth and fifth generation fighters,

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<v Speaker 18>dozens and dozens of air refueling tanker.

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<v Speaker 17>There's no confirmation yet of Iran's claims they had removed

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<v Speaker 17>in rich geranium before the strikes. Satellite images before and after, though,

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<v Speaker 17>give it some indication of the damage, at least on

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<v Speaker 17>the surface. Jonathan Lee Sky News, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Jonathan Lee for that report. Now tune in tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It ate another massive show. And I've got that American

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<v Speaker 2>professor on tomorrow night who I mentioned. But stay tuned

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<v Speaker 2>now for Paul Murray.