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Speaker 2: Today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: close friends. Everyone gather around and gather round. Look, this

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Speaker 2: one isn't really a rant, but I do want to

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Speaker 2: bring something up. Yeah, I have got a new like

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Speaker 2: little petty grute with the Internet that I wonder if

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Speaker 2: you've ever picked up on or whether you've ever noticed so,

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Speaker 2: someone I know recently just announced a pregnancy. They are pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to them. And you know what, I fucking can't

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Speaker 2: stand when someone announces their pregnancy and they're like bub

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Speaker 2: coming due February twenty whenever the fuck whatever they say beautiful,

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Speaker 2: nothing against the pregnancy announcement, absolutely gorgeous. You know what

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Speaker 2: pisses me the fuck off the bitches in the comments going, oh,

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Speaker 2: so glad it's finally all out, Like so glad we

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Speaker 2: can finally talk about this. Oh my god, babe, like

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Speaker 2: so happy that you finally told everyone, Like we get

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Speaker 2: out you knew, you knew six weeks ago. We get

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Speaker 2: at babes like they go, oh my god, girl, finally

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Speaker 2: it's been so hard to keep this secret. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is not about you.

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Speaker 1: To add to that, to add to this rant, because

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. But also when someone

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Speaker 1: does a gender reveal video, okay, and it's like long.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the video is forty seconds long, and in

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Speaker 1: the last ten seconds is when you find out if

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Speaker 1: it's pink balloons or blue balloons, and someone in the

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Speaker 1: comments comments congratulations on your girl with all pink hearts,

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Speaker 1: and they fucking spoil it for anyone else watching, Like

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Speaker 1: just write congratulations, don't spoil it in the comments. What

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Speaker 1: the baby's gender is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, so with you on that as well,

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Speaker 2: Oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, I spoil it, Like, let me wait until the

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Speaker 1: fucking massive cannons go off in the air that cost

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Speaker 1: the price of a car. I want to see the reveal.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see you know how on Instagram

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Speaker 1: you can see like the first two comments or whatever.

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Speaker 1: If it's all blue hearts, I'm like, well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: fucking watching it now, am I?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Seriously, how funny moving on Did you say sixteen

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Speaker 2: year olds are getting banned from social media in Australia?

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Speaker 2: Did you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I'll tell what I have to say about this.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. So wait, give a bit of context.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So not forg know, is it the Australian government, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Anthony Albanesi has said that if you're sixteen or under,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to use social media or under sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it comes into effect next year.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know whether if you've already got social

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Speaker 2: media and you're twelve, you can continue using it or

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Speaker 2: whether you just they just a blanket ban. I've got

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Speaker 2: no idea how they're going to police this either.

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Speaker 1: And you know what my first thought is they are

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Speaker 1: still going to use it. Oh for sure, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: use it. That is how teenagers communicate through fucking Snapchat

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Speaker 1: and whatever else. This is not gonna be successful.

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Speaker 2: I'm also that girl, get your elbow, get your priorities right.

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Speaker 2: Why is this the biggest problem that apparently we are facing.

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Speaker 1: I get it for tax everything else. I get it

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Speaker 1: for bullying reasons, like online bullying is relentless, especially amongst teenagers.

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Speaker 1: So I'm all for it from that angle, But like,

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Speaker 1: do they think that by saying that you can't be

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Speaker 1: Like kids will one hundred percent just still use it anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just don't. Yeah, I don't understand how they're going

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Speaker 1: Right, But you could still use your twelve year old

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes no sense to me, and thankfully I

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Speaker 2: Surely not unless they're in the back of the car.

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Speaker 2: Weird, Yeah, I don't think it'll affect me or my

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Speaker 1: more consequences to the actions of bullying on social media,

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Speaker 1: Like I actually feel really fucking passionately about that, the

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Speaker 1: We're going off topic here a little bit, Matt. Graffiti, Yeah, okay, graffiti.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the ugliest fucking thing I've ever seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of losers trying to impress one another.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fucking sick. Is the other idiots to

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Speaker 1: needs to be more consequences for the graffiti. If you graffiti,

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Speaker 2: to give them. I have to actually give graffiti artists

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Speaker 2: Actually, they've probably got now up.

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Speaker 1: I think graffiti is fucking so dumb. I hate it,

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Speaker 1: and it makes everything look ugly, like you go through

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Speaker 1: It's to impress other people that do graffiti that are

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Speaker 2: And then you see the ones at like the top

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Speaker 2: even reach. I've gone. You have literally put your life

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Speaker 1: CEBD is just fucking full of graffiti and it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Which it must be so bad that like the council

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't know, I just hate it. I

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Speaker 1: hate it. Get your hands chopped off, fair enough? Okay,

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Speaker 1: bring back fucking stuff like that?

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Speaker 2: more punishments is what you're wanting in the world, Yes, Like, if.

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Speaker 1: Someone's fucked up enough, fucking bring back punishments. And like

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Speaker 1: I've seen the whole kids being banned from social media thing.

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Speaker 1: So they can be banned from social media until they're sixteen,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but that's it's a slippery slope pee because I

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Speaker 2: will say in high school, when I was in high school,

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Speaker 2: social media was just coming about, you know, teaching about

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Speaker 2: because what do you call that instead of prevention, you

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Speaker 2: call it something else, like similar to safe sex, Like

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Speaker 2: teach safe sex instead of teach don't have sex because

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Speaker 2: kids are gonna have We'll not kids, but who knows.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, people aren't gonna People are gonna have sex,

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Speaker 2: so we want to teach them to have safe sex,

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Speaker 2: not to not have sex because it's gonna happen. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, instead of just banning social media, we should

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Speaker 2: be teaching them how to use it. But I will

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Speaker 2: say in their defense, like we were taught I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you were taught in high school, but we

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Speaker 2: were definitely taught about But we had a big scandal

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Speaker 2: at our school, which actually I probably Nova wouldn't let

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Speaker 2: me talk about it on the podcast, but it had

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Speaker 2: to do with the sharing of one's photos. I will

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Speaker 2: say around the school. It was a big.

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Speaker 1: Scandal in schools Now, yes, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: We had to we had, like our school had to

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Speaker 2: take action on that and teach us about internet safety

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Speaker 2: and bullying online and all the rest of that. So

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Speaker 2: we actually learned a lot. I don't think it stopped

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Speaker 2: any once people were still all so I think I

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Speaker 2: think this might also be a last resort for the government.

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Speaker 2: But also I'm still like, it just doesn't seem right

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Speaker 2: to me. And I'm not like someone who's like, yes,

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Speaker 2: every kid should have social media. I just think wasting

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Speaker 2: our time implementing this band.

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Speaker 1: They're still going to go on it anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's like a waste of and I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen many people say like, yes, this is a

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Speaker 2: good decision. I'm like, this is what governments do, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: We go, hello, we're starving, we can't afford groceries, we

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Speaker 2: can't afford rent And they go, well, guess what we're

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Speaker 2: gonna do. We're going to ban social media for kids.

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Speaker 2: It's like, thank you back to the rental crisis. Just

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Speaker 2: think it was in poor taste to make such a

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Speaker 2: hulla baloo about the whole thing when I feel there

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Speaker 2: are more issues at the top of the pyramid for

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Speaker 2: our government to reflect on. But anyway, we're not a

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Speaker 2: political podcast. We're a pop culture podcast. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know why we spent close friends talking about all this. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Should we wrap it up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Nice? Well, thanks Gay, thanks for listening. Scroll to see

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Speaker 2: you next Tuesday.