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Speaker 1: The City with Kate podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about cheating for a minute.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, well you're looking I haven't very defense.

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Speaker 1: Why history says here that, But what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: That is not I'm not asking you.

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Speaker 4: None of us here in this room have to share anything,

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Speaker 4: but there is often the discussion around like.

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Speaker 2: What why why have you done that? Like what leads

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Speaker 2: people to cheat?

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Speaker 4: I think the older you get, not that you get

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Speaker 4: more understanding of cheating, but you realize that humans are

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Speaker 4: just humans and they make mistakes. You know, lives, absolute

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Speaker 4: animals change.

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Speaker 1: Chat GPT wouldn't cheat on you.

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Speaker 4: Now, Robots wouldn't unless you programmed it too.

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Speaker 2: That's what we need.

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Speaker 4: There was this survey and this is what I want

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Speaker 4: to ask people thirteen twenty four ten.

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Speaker 2: If you've if you've cheated because they.

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Speaker 3: Did, that was your retaliation cheat?

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Speaker 4: Because this is what the survey states. As far as

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Speaker 4: women go, usually they they will cheat if they think

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Speaker 4: that their partner has been unfaithful or if they have

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Speaker 4: the evidence that they have been betrayed.

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Speaker 2: First, you know you did you did it first.

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Speaker 4: And so the only way that I can feel as

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Speaker 4: though we have a level playing field again is if

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Speaker 4: I go out and do that same thing.

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Speaker 3: It depends what you want and it depends what the

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Speaker 3: family and your reaction is. So if you were there, Kate,

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Speaker 3: if you were to cheat on Steve, let's call him Steve.

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Speaker 3: Steve's my dad's name.

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Speaker 2: Can you use.

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: What a weird relationship on your dad?

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Speaker 3: If you were to cheat on say Brian, right.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go out with Brian.

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Speaker 5: And go out with my dad, all right, So if

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Speaker 5: you were to cheat on Mick right.

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Speaker 2: I never cheat on me.

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Speaker 1: You're not going up with me, Okay, go go go eight.

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Speaker 1: So if you cheated on me, know you like the

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Speaker 1: older men. Okay, you're cheated with on Aaron? Right, and

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Speaker 1: then Aaron.

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Speaker 3: You saw how heartbroken Aaron was. Do you think Aaron's

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Speaker 3: going to be in a position where he says, well,

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Speaker 3: she did it so to get her back. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm going to do it. Aaron's heartbroken because he

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Speaker 3: loves you and he can't believe what you've done to

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Speaker 3: the family. You've got seven kids, like don Perrete, right,

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Speaker 3: So then Aaron's going to go, well, why would I

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Speaker 3: go and do that.

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Speaker 2: Time to go and have an affair.

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Speaker 3: It's a hypothetical once again. So do you think I

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Speaker 3: don't think my natural reaction would be, well, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get one back. I don't think that's how it happened.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, there's no winners even if you do.

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Speaker 1: At the end of it, are you then going.

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Speaker 5: Even you're not, it's so dark that you're crawling into

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Speaker 5: all that's probably don't.

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Speaker 3: Ask me how my night was last night. Let's just

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Speaker 3: say even Stevens.

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Speaker 4: One of the stories is that the this woman was

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Speaker 4: being cheated on and the husband's friend couldn't believe that

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Speaker 4: the husband was doing that to this woman that he

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Speaker 4: also knew, so he told her and then when she said,

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Speaker 4: well do you want to even up the score, the.

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Speaker 1: Friend got involved physically.

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Speaker 5: Yes. Do you know the other story I'd love to

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Speaker 5: hear When you find out that your partner's cheating with

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Speaker 5: someone and they're in a relationship as well, has that

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Speaker 5: person then gone, well, I'm going to cheat on you

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Speaker 5: with their partner partner swap?

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Speaker 3: Does it happen?

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Speaker 5: George has given us a call from Granville. Now, you

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Speaker 5: were cheated on, George, What was the first thing going

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Speaker 5: through your mind?

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Speaker 1: George?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, when she came to me about the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: It was a case of I've been longer for ten

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Speaker 6: years ago. I thought you did it ten years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, Worge, I asked you if you did it ten

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 6: No, that was the whole thing. I had kids that

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Speaker 6: were three and five years old at the time. So

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Speaker 6: if she decided that that's what you wanted to do,

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Speaker 6: happy days, and you move on. So as far as

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Speaker 6: I was concerned, for ten years, we weren't good enough.

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Speaker 6: And that's what happened to the kids.

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Speaker 5: If they're turning it around on you, George, there's a

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Speaker 5: big Probably you've dodged a bullet there, George.

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Speaker 1: So is it all over?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's all over, and the kids don't see

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Speaker 6: and all that sort of stuff. So it's horrendous as

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Speaker 6: far as that goes. Sure, idea was because I'd missed

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Speaker 6: out and because she was selfish and all that. It

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Speaker 6: didn't get any better. But I wanted to get back

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Speaker 6: at you. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, okay, so that's what you're saying. It never

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Speaker 4: happened in the first place. So a family has I guess,

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Speaker 4: been blown up, it destroyed because there hasn't been open communication.

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Speaker 6: All the friends came to me with the same idea, Oh,

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Speaker 6: if she's done it, you should go into it mentality,

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Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there going where did this come from?

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Speaker 6: How things work in the world?

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Speaker 3: She cheated for ten years and then played the victim, George.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the worst person in the world. Why

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Speaker 6: was me? And all that stuff? I went up?

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Speaker 3: Did you know who the guy was?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. There was a way to work and back

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Speaker 6: from work was fantastic. I'm going to pop in for

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Speaker 6: a cup of tea on the way home because some

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Speaker 6: of the big signs saying I'm doing it. Everyone looks, well,

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Speaker 6: what did you do wrong? What did I do wrong?

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Speaker 6: But how does that work?

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Speaker 1: Did she say that she had evidence of you cheating, George?

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Speaker 6: Or she just assumed now she was under the same

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Speaker 6: idea that she was the PA at work.

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Speaker 3: Yep, so she was.

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Speaker 6: So she was the PA at work, and she went

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Speaker 6: out with a solicitor at work. So she thought I

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Speaker 6: was doing the same thing, moving up the ranks, and

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Speaker 6: so therefore I had pas at work, so you must

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Speaker 6: be doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of it is about not

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Speaker 4: taking responsibility for your own behavior.

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Speaker 2: There are all.

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Speaker 4: Always reasons and excuses for why we might do something,

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Speaker 4: But in the end you did make a choice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, George, is she still with the other guy? And

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Speaker 3: have you found something that dropped like a hat?

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Speaker 6: It was the worst thing, was a big mistake and

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Speaker 6: I thought, so all that effort and time you put

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Speaker 6: come back for it? Well it would have been nice.

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Speaker 6: Even if you've brought up into the sunset you have you.

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Speaker 1: Found love, George.

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Speaker 6: No, not this week, not this one.

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Speaker 2: Still love George and.

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Speaker 1: Whipper with Capridgie podcast The cost of Living.

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Speaker 3: As we have spoken about a lot on this show,

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Speaker 3: do you know what stat I heard this morning that

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Speaker 3: with the average wage here in Sydney, we'll call it

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Speaker 3: Australia if you want, why don't we round it out.

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Speaker 3: Let's call it Australia. The average wage in Australia and

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Speaker 3: the average housing cost means that you would need to

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Speaker 3: save for forty six years for a deposit to the

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Speaker 3: average house here. I'm going to bring it back in

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Speaker 3: in Sydney forty six years just for the deposit, just

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Speaker 3: for the deposit on the average priced house in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Hopeful isn't it.

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Speaker 1: You're not saving much though you could save a bit more,

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Speaker 1: couldn't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what they're saying with the average wage. If

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Speaker 3: you're putting x amount or whatever's recommended as your average

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Speaker 2: Every week after you fine the money to pay for.

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Speaker 3: A problem, he is too when you have when you

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Speaker 3: know you meant to be saving, but you have such

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Speaker 3: a long runway. If someone was to suggest you need

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Speaker 3: to be saving for forty six years, you kind of

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Speaker 3: throw the towel in, don't you. So the savings don't

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Speaker 3: really exist because you're thinking, what's the point anyway, I'm

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Speaker 3: a lifelong renter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to prioritize other things because that seems unattainable.

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Speaker 3: And that's not an issue. You can rent for your

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Speaker 3: entire life, go for it, it doesn't really matter. But

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Speaker 3: the whole assie dream. And they say that only twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent of people in a couple of years time

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Speaker 3: will be living in houses that have the picket fence

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Speaker 3: in the backyard, Like the backyard is becoming a dying option. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for assis to bring up a family and that's the

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Speaker 3: hardest part.

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Speaker 1: And fences. There's not many companies that do picking.

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Speaker 3: Fore, that's a pine, just your basic pine. You'd need

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Speaker 3: to paint it, well, paint.

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Speaker 2: It white with a crab apple in the front tree.

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Speaker 2: That's what we had in Campbelltown.

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Speaker 4: But that's what ruins you Disney movies and growing up

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Speaker 4: in a firebrough house in Chamberlain Street, because that's kind

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Speaker 4: of what that's what you want.

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Speaker 2: A patio and a lawn that you can.

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Speaker 1: Water, and asbestos, yes, and a bit of lead in

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Speaker 1: the backyard.

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Speaker 3: It's sounding a lot like the castle, isn't it. But

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Speaker 3: and that Back then that was the castle, and that

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Speaker 3: and fence and your crab apple, well that was that

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Speaker 3: was the best thing in the world. And you couldn't

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Speaker 3: ask for anything else or anything more. But now everyone's stuffed.

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Speaker 2: Where's this going? Because it sad?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, let me put it to you this way. There's

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Speaker 3: and she said, because of the crisis, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: need to couple up in the hope of finding some

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Speaker 3: accommodation to live. She's been renting for a very long

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Speaker 3: time Rent's about to go up fifty dollars in the

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Speaker 3: next month. So she said, the only way forward is

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Speaker 3: to find somebody to be in a relationship with or

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Speaker 3: share a bed with. That's how I have to do

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Speaker 3: it now, because without that then I don't get a life.

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Speaker 3: I was a bit of a burrito coming back up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's not worry too much about the sound effect from

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Speaker 3: the internal bop.

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Speaker 5: I just did.

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Speaker 1: Just hit her into the break discs.

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Speaker 2: Brent's going up, and so's breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Better than going out anything happened in Kate Richie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So she need is to share a bed, hopefully

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Speaker 4: not with you, because you can't keep your insights again.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine that moment though, of going okay, well

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Speaker 3: you seem nice enough. You appear like a clean individual. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll share a bed with you. I don't know you,

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Speaker 3: but I suppose I'm going to have to know.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to mate.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to, so you I do think people

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Speaker 4: consider the fact that they need to Maybe you know,

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Speaker 4: I want to find someone for love, but I also

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Speaker 4: think I need to. You know, life may be better

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Speaker 2: Are they still in love?

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Speaker 3: They're still together? Yeah, it was very different.

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Speaker 1: It's a success story that's very few.

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Speaker 3: I'd celebrate with a burb over there. It fits in

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Speaker 4: We've all done it at some point, do you have

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Speaker 2: We've all we all have different ones on what have

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Speaker 1: Massive, Yeah, yes, I have the Imperial March from Star Wars.

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Speaker 4: You know, some people just like have the death like

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Speaker 3: You've never answered for us? And I've asked so many times.

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Speaker 2: Phone, like Kerry and Kenney his CAC. Everyone knows there's Cack.

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Speaker 3: I certainly have you as Kate Richie because I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't have him in there, Tomato, I don't have

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Speaker 6: What is it?

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Speaker 5: A hammer?

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Speaker 2: Do you know if the hammer when home and away?

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Speaker 2: And then he went on to hold a hammer? I mean,

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Speaker 3: What do you have Liam Hammsworth House?

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Speaker 2: I don't know love a boy So if you do

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Speaker 4: change the boyfriend's name back in fourth from like you know,

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Speaker 3: Yep, do not answer this and never do that.

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Speaker 1: It is a great reminder.

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Speaker 5: I've got a very good man who works over in

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Speaker 3: See Tom's in my phone as Pest, So any time

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Speaker 3: But I've got a guy in there. His name's Eddie,

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Speaker 3: but we call him Grief. So he's in there. It's Greek.

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Speaker 3: Gives us nothing but grief.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that new mad Mountain?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man mountain.

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Speaker 2: Do these people know they are in it's that name,

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Speaker 3: Obviously nicknames good stuff, Lizzie.

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Speaker 2: the phone, Lizzy.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 6: I'm terrible. I actually don't remember their real name.

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Speaker 1: That's half the reason.

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Speaker 6: But I've got two minute man, and I've got sugar Daddy.

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Speaker 1: Does he does he love noodles? Maybe?

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Speaker 5: I never asked that.

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Speaker 1: Two three.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing. Actually, I've got a little emoji game here

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Speaker 3: What was the member one line pizza poop?

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Speaker 1: The line is it to do with the Wizard of

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Speaker 1: oz Or and the wardrobe you're close with?

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Speaker 3: Come on line pizza line piece.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one, and I reckon. We've all

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