WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 12 November 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.040 From the Skying Center. 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.160 This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.880 Yes, we certainly have welcome to Paul Murray Live with 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:14.120 me Danikidi Giorgio. They have indeed let me back into 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.079 this man cave for a second night in a row. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.800 And boy, we've got a big show ahead coming up. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.840 What is it actually going to take to get rid 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.279 of Kevin Rudd? And who is the real village idiot? 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.880 I think we know the answer to that. Four foreign 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.879 nationals arrive on our shores on a boat? Are our 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.080 borders secure under labor? And the US snubs the UN's 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.839 Climate conference. But it's okay because the Talibahun will be 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.839 making an appearance. But first tonight, you know, I'm really 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:50.960 trying to picture a meeting between Kevin Rudd and Donald Trump, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.480 or perhaps their first phone call even since Trump's re election. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.280 And I've got to say, wondering if we'll go Hi, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.560 mister Trump. It's Kevin. Kevin here, Kevin O seven Big keV. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.120 You know you might remember me. I'm the ambassador. I 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.840 consider myself a really intelligent person. In fact, here's some 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.039 of my previous work. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:20.440 Ah, there's language. He's just complicates it so much, you know, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.280 how can anyone do this? Man, this is just impossible. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.039 My name's Kevin. I'm from Queensland. I'm here to help. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.880 Oh, fair shake of the sauce bottle mate, fair shaker, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:32.720 the sauce bottle mate. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.839 Well again, fair shaker, the source bottle mate. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.120 It's highly unlikely that you will have anything emerged from 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.040 the NEF by way of detailed programmatic specificity. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.040 Yes, I'm sure, but really really understand that one over there. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.680 I can just see it, you see, Donald, I know 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.760 lots of things. That's why they call me the doctor. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.520 That's why I'm doctor rud I've got a PhD, you know. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.400 And that's when Trump walks out of the room or 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.840 hangs up the phone, when he realizes that this is 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.800 the same Kevin from Australia or Kevin from Queensland apparently, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.000 who called him the most destructive president in history and 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.359 a traitor to the West, and now was revealed by 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.400 my colleague Sharry markson a village idiot. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.280 So as that changes in China's favor, and as the 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.440 United States in the last four years has been run 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:23.480 by a village idiot. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.280 But according to Rudd, there is nothing to see here 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.160 because the diplomat annihilated his keyboard last week, furiously deleting 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.000 any and all evidence of his past criticisms of Trump 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.920 immediately after Trump won. That was Kevin Rudd's office said 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.800 that this was done to eliminate the possibility of such 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:49.200 comments being misconstrued as reflecting his positions as ambassador and, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.200 by extension, the views of the Australian government. Yes, of course, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.520 because being labeled a traitor to the West, that must 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:01.239 be misconstrued. But no, no, it doesn't matter because here 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.639 is what Labor will tell you today that. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.040 As the Prime Minister and Pennymont Long made clear last week, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.440 Kevin is doing an excellent job. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.800 An excellent job. This is real comedy, gold and que 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.840 The next one is Keaven Rud the right person to 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:22.880 be US ambassdon Yes, no, never mind, he insulted the 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.239 next leader of the free world, not once, but multiple times. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.800 Kevin from Australia is apparently doing an excellent job. Please 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.240 and with that, it's now official. The appointment of Kevin 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.560 Rudd Anthony Aarbernezy's big captain's pick has blown up in 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:43.040 his face. Rudd was after all, booted from his office 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.160 by his own Party in twenty ten, Australia sent him 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.640 packing three years later, and then he turns up in Washington. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.440 What does it take to get rid of him? Alban 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.720 Eazy should have at the very least prepared for the 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.080 possibility that Trump could very well be or re elected 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.880 again when he thrust his mentor and form a boss 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.640 into the job. At the very least put someone into 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.960 the ambassador role that could foster relationships in a positive 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:15.800 way between Australia and the US. Because Rudd's unhinged tantrums 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.599 saw him call Trump a traitor to the West in 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.080 that now deleted social media post, the most destructive president 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.640 in history. He drags America and democracy through the mud 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:32.360 that he thrives on, fermenting, not healing division. He abuses Christianity, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:38.520 Church and Bible to justify violence. At a political science webinar, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:43.120 Rudd described the president electors incoherent and occasionally in love 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.120 with dictators. And this. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.240 I think the general consensus amongst anyone concerned with the 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.799 public policy process, domestic or international, thinks he's nuts. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.760 So the question has to be asked, why on earth 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.680 was Rudd chosen in the first place. All this was 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.720 out on the Internet for the world to see, and 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:11.880 still somehow Rudd ended up our top diplomat. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:12.920 Well. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.400 His position as ambassador is now completely untenable, and it's 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.799 his own fault, as it always is with Kevin Rudd 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.640 and his ego. He probably has to sidestep his own 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.400 ego just to fit through doors. And if he thinks 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.120 that by deleting any in all evidence of his past 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.480 comments about Donald Trump, that all will be forgiven, he's mistaken. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.920 Donald Trump is no fool. Call him what you want, 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.320 like him, all ow them. But this is a man 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.159 who has built his career on fostering strong relationships with 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:47.040 people who show him respect, so you can hardly blame 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.320 him for these comments. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.279 He won't be there longer, that's the case. I don't 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.880 know much about him. I heard he was a little 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.880 bit nasty. I hear he's not the brightest bulb. But 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.520 I don't know much about him. But if if he's 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.920 at all hostile, he will not be there long. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.239 And it's this sort of arrogance by Rudd that makes 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.279 his appointment by Albow dangerous. Rudd slanted Trump on the 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.200 world stage, told the world he was destructive, The Australia 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:18.480 US relationship is so important, So why on earth would 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.960 Trump be willing and likely to pick up the phone 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.000 or meet with Kevin from Queensland, Kevin from Australia when 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.000 he's been slanted by the man. I've got to say, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.200 there's only two idiots who need to go back to 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.200 their villagers, and that's Albin Easy and Rudd. And let's 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.680 be honest, Kevin and his ego won't go voluntarily, but 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.840 he certainly can't delete his way out of this one. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.640 It's time for Albo to take some advice from Trump 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:49.240 and say, hey, keV, you fy it now. Look, I've 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.360 got to say it appears that the ghosts of the 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.240 rud Gillard Rudd era are circling again because the resolve 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.880 of Labour's border is being tested, with four foreign nationals 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.760 arriving in a remote part of the Northern Territory on Monday. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.960 It is understood that these four individuals were located on 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.160 the remote Croker Island, around two hundred and fifty kilometers 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.360 northeast of Darwin by traditional owners, and there are reports 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.640 that the arrivals told locals on the island they paid 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.160 someone to be taken to Australia. It is believed they 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.880 arrived by boat. Now the group are apparently no longer here, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:30.200 but here we go right before and election. It was 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.800 indeed revealed in Senate estimates last week that there have 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.800 been twenty two confirmed illegal boat arrivals since the federal 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.920 election in May twenty twenty two, all under that failed 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.920 Andrew Jarles experiment, and now here we go again under 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:49.440 Tony Burke. But g I wish someone in charge of 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.960 the borders was like this man, Thomas Holman. Donald Trump's 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.840 brand new borders are the man tasks with the deporting 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.920 millions of illegals from the cun He's a former police 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.440 officer and immigration official and a man who means business. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.320 I think some of these democratic governments they're going to 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:11.120 stand in the way. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.040 They're going to make a heart for us. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.200 Well a suggestion, if you I can't help us get 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.680 the hell out of work, we're going to do it. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.840 Here he is, again not mincing his words. We have 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.880 seen one estimate that says it would cost eighty eight 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.320 billion dollars to deport a million people a year. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:31.680 I don't know if that's occured or not. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.120 Is that what American taxpayers should expect? 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.120 What price do you put on national security? 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.400 Is that worth it? 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.160 Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.359 separating families? 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.720 Of course, yes, families can be deported together. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.040 And look, I've got to say, that's how you'd expect 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.559 a person in charge of borders to speak, no nonsense, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.000 serious and ready to act. It's really great to say 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.000 the adults back in charge of an office somewhere in 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:08.200 the world. All right, let's get into it tonight. A 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.199 big show ahead. Joining me now is Liberal Senator Holly 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.640 Hughes and freyl each from the Mensies Research Center. Here 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.160 we are. It is Ladies Night, Paul Murray live. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:18.400 Here. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.040 We are in the man Cave. I don't know. Should 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.800 we call it the man Cave tonight? I don't know. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.840 Is it half priced drinks for ladies? 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.200 How it works the lady's lounge? I don't know. Don't worry, Paul, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.240 We're not going to touch anything in here. Okay, everything 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.760 is going to be left intact. Don't worry. We know 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.600 you're coming back tomorrow night. Look, let's launch into this. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.720 I've got to start with our old friend I'm sure, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.520 an Avid Sky News viewer, and Kevin run I'm sure 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.000 he loves loves the shows here, but holy what is 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.559 it actually going to take now for Rudd to go? 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.800 Surely his position is untenable. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.480 Did anyone else get a bit of PTSD then when 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.719 they were just watching some of those clips? I mean, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.840 I think I've actually forcefully put him out of his 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.840 out of my mind, like those the zingers that he 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.679 tries and the little throwaway lines because he's so much 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.800 cleverer than everybody else in the room. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.040 I mean, he's just cringe, you know, you do about 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:12.720 someone gives. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.000 You the EG Welcome to keV, but yes, it would 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.120 sing to me his position after today's latest video finding 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.840 and I'm sure there will be many more to come 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.800 that his position has to be considered untenable. Obviously the 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.520 Labor Party, he was Albaneze's personal pick. They'll try and 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.760 do everything they can to keep him there. I've heard 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.360 tonight that apparently he's been reaching out to Scott Morrison 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.080 asking him for assistance to develop relationships. The fact that 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.400 he didn't delete these posts until Trump was re elected, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:49.040 I mean, it's either mass stupidity, not only by him 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.600 but by the entire defat diplomatic corps who didn't say 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.400 to him, mate, get rid of your Twitter now, like 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.720 when you're appointed, get rid of your Twitter, like we 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:00.920 know Sam, just stop. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:02.920 Well, but when Sam Mouston moved into. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.520 The Governor General role, all of her social media was 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.480 white and gone because she was going into the office 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.640 of the Governor General. Kevin Orright's gone into the office 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.480 of the ambassador representing US, representing Australians to the United States. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.720 It's not about him anymore. It's about Australia. And it's 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.040 never been about Australia for Kevin. It's always been about Kevin. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.280 And you know, it's all well and good. I did 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.120 hear on Charry Martson's program that he has reached out 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.520 to Scott Morrison. Well, it's all well and good now 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.640 to want to be trying to foster relationships and build relationships, keV, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.679 you've been there for a while. Why haven't you been 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:42.600 trying to foster relationships for some time? Freyer, it's almost 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.320 an obsession with Donald Trump and it's come back to 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:45.880 bite him. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.240 Well, it's classic lefty I mean, I don't think anyone 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.280 in the Labor government possibly could conceive of a second 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.040 Trump presidency because they like the rest of the left 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.480 wing media were probably so captured in the Trump derangement 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.520 syndrome that they thought no way could Trump ever get elected, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.800 So probably didn't even cross their mind that they would 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.719 ever be put into this situation. But yeah, I mean 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.080 to Holly's point, where was defat in all of this? 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.160 Like, how on? How on anybody? I know? 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.760 And the challenge now, I think we've got to remember 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.440 who Donald Trump is. This is a guy who cut 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.880 his teeth in business. It's all about relationships. It's about respect, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.800 it's about honor. And when he senses that somebody does 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:31.839 not share that mutual respect, I don't think it's gonna 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.959 go well for Australia. And that is a terrible outcome 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.240 because we know Trump is talking about tariffs on all 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.920 imports to the US, and so we need to be 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.840 in a strong position as a country to fight for 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.480 Australia's interests, which is one to keep orcas, to keep 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.960 our deep military ties, but also to keep our strong 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.520 economic and trade relations going. When we have an ambassador 0:12:54.720 --> 0:13:00.160 who has pissed off the president on day one, don't 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:00.920 know how that's going to go. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.439 No, this is a thing, But I also wonder what 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.640 is this a reflection though, on Anthony Albanesi, because these 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.960 tweets were all they were in the Twitter sphere, they 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.400 were all online, they were there for the world to 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.920 see before Anthony Albansi parachuted Kevin Rudd into this role. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.079 So you've got to ask yourself, what on earth is 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.120 Anthony Albanesi doing? What was he thinking? 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.560 Well, they were there last week when all the polls 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.680 were indicating it was likely to be a Trump whitt 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.280 So what point was someone going to say, Hey, not 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.400 quite sure this is the best thing to have up 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.880 on your Twitter feet. But the fact that there is 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.000 so much stuff out there, and you know, as a parent, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.800 I know we always tell our kids, once it's on 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:42.040 the internet, it's always there's a lesson for you, keV. Yes, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.280 once it's on the internet, it's always on the internet. Yeah, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.120 And this is I think going to be an ongoing 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.320 problem for Rudd. But Albanesi's arrogance when he said today 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.680 you know he's off to South America. We know he 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.599 doesn't sit in economy. He's taking his own playing to 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.440 South America. But he has to be smug or well 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.720 it's actually not on the way. When it was suggested 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.640 he call in and have a meeting with President elect Trump. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.679 You know, it's I've find extraordinary pray that he's not. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.840 He's going all the way there. Why wouldn't you just 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.360 pop into marri Lago, say let's build our relationship, let's 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:15.000 work on this. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.600 I mean, he's probably nervous that Trump won't take the meeting. Yeah, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.600 let's be real at this point. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:21.400 I mean, why would he. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.000 This guy has four years to turn around the US 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.000 that has suffered under four years of Democrat neglect. You 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.160 think he's really going to give an hour, even thirty 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.880 minutes to some guy from Australia who's already pissed him off. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.480 Like, no, No, it's just not how it works. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.760 You have to show respect and if you don't, well 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.440 you will pay for that. And unfortunately Australia is going 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:44.960 to pay for that. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.280 Yeah. Absolutely. And you know to your point as well, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.360 Donald Trump didn't get this successful for no reason. This 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.600 man is a professional businessman. He knows how to foster relationship. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.720 So I do totally agree. But look, let's move on. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.800 I want to talk to you about the foreign nationals 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.760 that are found in the Northern Territory today. Peter Dutton 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.080 seized on it, saying, labor have left our borders insecure. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.360 Have a look, this is now the twenty third boat 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.520 arrival and it's another one that's been undetected. Our borders 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.320 are not secure under the urban ezy government. How can 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.200 a boat make it to the mainland without any detection whatsoever. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.960 I think it's clear that the Prime Minister should have 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.360 been honest with the Australian people today when he addressed 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.800 the media. He should have provided advice. Instead, he got 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.400 up and mentioned nothing about it, which I think goes 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.080 to show that the Prime Minister is not being honest 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.080 in relation to this debate, and it demonstrates the fact 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.600 that the government is seen as weak, not just by 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.640 Australians but by people smugglers as well. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:44.440 Well. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.720 Holly, we know last time this happened the Prime Minister 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.680 was asked about it at a press conference. He said, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.120 I've been in the car, or I've bitten a played 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.520 He's always to take a phone. I couldn't take the 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.040 phone calls. I've been up in the air or something. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.960 But I mean, what does this suggest another four arriving 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.840 on our shores detected? Should we be concerned? 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:02.040 Well? 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.080 I think the fact that the boats are getting to 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.560 Australia without any detection whatsoever, and this is reflective of 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.160 the fact that labor does not prioritize the border floors. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:16.000 It doesn't prioritize actually investing in national security and border security. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.040 But the reality is there are less boats than we 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.440 had under the Rudd Gillard years. But I think that's 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.640 because this government's so willing to just give everyone a visa. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.280 It's probably smarter for them and probably cheaper to just 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.400 come in the front. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.840 Door and they're just flying in. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.240 Nowadays they've only got to get a student visa and 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.400 the Albanezy government can't wait to provide them with housing, welfare, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:43.120 pseudo education, welcome come in. But I think it is 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.240 frightening that we're seeing those people smugglers are starting to 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.880 push the boundaries again, and that so many boats are 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.960 making it through without any form of detection. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:52.160 Because it might. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.240 Be people they're putting in it like we've seen today. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.440 We don't know what else is coming in in boats 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.360 that haven't been detected, and I think this is what 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.720 we always need to be mindful of. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.960 Well, this has always been a weak spot for labor, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.960 hasn't it Freyer. You know, they put Andrew Giles in 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.600 initially a guy who represented asylum seekers on the Tampa 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.480 put him into some sort of weird experiment here, put 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.520 him in the immigration so that went really well. They've 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.600 now handed it to Tony Burke. But is history repeating 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.879 itself here or are they just testing the resolve of 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.639 Labor head of the next federal election. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.520 I mean, I definitely think there would be people smugglers 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.159 looking at Australia going how weak is this government really? 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.520 What can we actually get away with here? But I 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.280 think Labor knows that if borders become a serious issue 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.280 at the next election. Immigration is already an issue that 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.399 people care about, but if border security and national sovereignty 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.440 becomes an issue, they will get absolutely annihilated. So they're 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.520 smart enough to know they have to nip this in 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.639 the butt quickly. But I mean, I think the damage 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.159 has already been done and it does certainly feel like 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.760 over the last two years, whenever Labor has touched immigration, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.679 things have ended up incomplete chaos. I mean, this is 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.160 coming off the back of the two hundred and sixteen 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.040 violent foreign criminals who've been released into the community too. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.520 We're not allowed to monitor anymore. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.000 Yeah, thank you, thanks. 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.560 I mean twelve murderers, sixty six sex offenders, and now 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.520 they're reoffending as well. Like we're not just talking about oh, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.960 you know, a couple people whatever. No, No, this is 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.320 big and this is bad for Australians. So I think 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.600 LABEL would be very very concerned right now about where 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.119 all this immigration stuff is headed. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.520 Absolutely, and that's a good point because they don't have 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.199 to have their ankle monitors any more. Wholly is that 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.880 is that the case here? Now's there's no ankle monitors, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.280 it's fine, hopefully hope for all the best that there's 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:44.240 no control. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.960 Well, I mean we were in Canberra last week when 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.280 this High Court decision came down. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.480 Yet again this government has been caught flat footed. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.800 Earlier in the week, I was doing a show with 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.239 Matt this way, He's like, oh, we put things up, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.480 there's things there hasn't gone through the Parliament. The Senate 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.240 was there for estimates. So I'm sure in an issue 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:04.879 as important as this that they would have had to 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.679 bipartisan support had they needed to put in new legislation quickly. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.199 The Senate. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.199 I know I'm a senator, but I'm also not the 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.000 clerk of the Senate. Yeah, I'm not going to guess 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.560 what the process is, but we were all there, so 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.760 there's no reason legislation couldn't have gone in to rectify this. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.119 And yet again they've just been caught. I don't know 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.040 whether they're napping. 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:24.520 I don't know. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.960 I've been napping for two years. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:29.879 What they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.000 They haven't had a high court decision go their way, 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.680 and they keep saying they've got contingency plans. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.680 But we don't crickets seed them crickets. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.199 No, we never do. Now, let's move on. There's a 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.240 fun story in The Australian Today. Roger Cook has sought 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.359 legal advice on delaying the WA election because it's going 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:52.440 to avoid an anti incumbent wave hitting him before Anthony Alberinezi. 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.679 Ive been growing concerns that whoever goes to the polls 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.119 first risks a backlash over the Prime minister's waning popularity, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.200 but Easy was very quick to water it down today. 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.320 I'll be campaigning for him, it must be said, and 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.879 I'll be there next month with Roger there at the 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:15.919 opening of a new rail line. Look the speculation around 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:20.480 elections is something that has been I've read in the 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.399 August pages of our national National tabloid the date was 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.880 going to be August thirty, and then it was September, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.800 then it's December seventh. What I've been focused on is governing. 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.800 What what was he saying? And clearly Roger Cook doesn't 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.920 want to take the blame for an angry electorate. Oh 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.720 actually we don't have that. Look, I want to say Freyer. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.160 You know, firstly, I don't think that anybody would want 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.359 Albow campaigning for them the way that he's that he's going. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.879 So I don't blame Roger Cook for going what are 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:54.480 you doing? 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.320 These people are deluded? 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.919 Yeah, they're so deluded. I mean that you'd worry. I mean, 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.639 Western Australia is a labor state right now, but you 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.920 wouldn't want Elbow out there, surely. I mean. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.840 Labours fall from grace over the last three years has 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.639 been truly remarkable. The Liberals in WA were reduced to 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.560