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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannon's.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, Formula one is set to resume for

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Speaker 1: its long swing through the Americas with this weekend's United

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Speaker 1: States Grand Prix. Matt Payne wins a barnstorming Baptist one

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Speaker 1: thousand with now six time winner Garth Tander, and we

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Speaker 1: book ahead to this weekend's Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix at

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Speaker 1: Phillip Island. My name is Michael Lomonatto. It's great to

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Speaker 1: have your company and the company of my co host.

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Speaker 1: He watched the Grand Final of our sport and was

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Speaker 1: surprised to hear there are three rounds still remaining.

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Speaker 2: It's Matt Payton, the eternal thing that happens every Supercars season. Also,

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Speaker 2: that's it, then, is it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not. But Michael, I have got to give

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Speaker 2: you a massive hat tip here because we don't pump

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Speaker 2: one another's tires up enough quite frankly on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: But this is a perfect time for me because we

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Speaker 2: have this segment called interested versus Expert. I'm very much

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Speaker 2: interested in supercars, but not the expert. Now, someone wise

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Speaker 2: on this podcast this time last week, said hm My

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Speaker 2: crystal Ball tip for the Bathist one thousand is Matt

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Speaker 2: Pain and gaf Tender. And as I was watching the

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Speaker 2: last bit of Bathist and the last bit by that point,

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Speaker 2: it was almost dark in Australia by that stage, because

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Speaker 2: the last five laps seemed to take forever. It was

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Speaker 2: completely insane, And at the end of it, the first

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Speaker 2: thing I thought was, for the first time this year,

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Speaker 2: your crystal ball can go in the crystal Ball Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame because you were right.

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Speaker 1: I've got to admit to you. It was only this

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Speaker 1: morning in the shower that I remembered that puts to

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Speaker 1: tells you how much stock I put into my predictions,

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Speaker 1: assuming that they're just going to be wrong. And then

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Speaker 1: I thought, hey, on a second, I knew this was

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Speaker 1: going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And the whole this is the Dictionary definition of that

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Speaker 2: old saying that a stopped clock is right twice a day,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 1: But look, if it's Bathist time, I'm not bad. I'm

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Speaker 1: not too upset to get the Bathist prediction right every year,

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Speaker 1: but everything else I predict is wrong.

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Speaker 2: But that was absolutely bananas, wasn't it. The last five

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Speaker 2: laps of that I mean, I was in and out

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Speaker 2: of it all day, as you know, as interested versus

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Speaker 2: expert tells you, But the last five like, how are

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Speaker 2: we at the last five laps? It's basically dark and

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Speaker 2: what on earth is going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've got it. Like when I saw qualifying

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Speaker 1: as well on the Friday night, seeing Pain and Tanner

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Speaker 1: out in eighteen, I was like, well, well, this is

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Speaker 1: probably why I stopped thinking about my prediction. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, that's all over and done with. But

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Speaker 1: let's start with interested versus expert. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened to Bautist one pounds,

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Speaker 1: if anyone who hasn't already caught up with what's being

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Speaker 1: built as one of the great Bathists. I'm always cautious

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Speaker 1: about using that. I've only seen so many of them, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I have not seen every Baptist or various previous iterations

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Speaker 1: of them in history. But it was a pretty good one, yes,

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Speaker 1: largely because of all those all the weather, of course,

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Speaker 1: that tends to shake things up, which is bad news.

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Speaker 1: If you're Brody cossetque your cam waters is obviously you

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Speaker 1: were battling for the lead until the rain arrived and

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Speaker 1: they got caught out by pizzop sequencing, and then the

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Speaker 1: number of safety cars laid and well, part of me,

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Speaker 1: and I've mentioned in your opinion on this mat part

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Speaker 1: of me thinks that safety cars shaking up sport dead

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Speaker 1: obviously always creates intrigue because you just get more race starts,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I think that's a bit of a cover to

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Speaker 1: call that a great race doesn't really count. But I

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Speaker 1: think some of the battling we actually saw in those conditions,

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Speaker 1: was somebody that apts. I can't remember exactly when that was,

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Speaker 1: what we saw in those conditions explains why this was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, completely. I mean, sometimes too many safety cars can

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Speaker 2: just be code for this is not a very good race,

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Speaker 2: and we need the you know, my favorite Formula ones

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Speaker 2: know what this race does. It builds to a boil.

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Speaker 2: You add the conditions, how treacherous it was and this

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Speaker 2: the TV viewing figures because it pushed so late everyone

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Speaker 2: was cheating in to see what was going on, were massive,

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Speaker 2: like some of the big in years, and you can

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Speaker 2: see why. This is why. This is what makes this

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Speaker 2: race what it is, and it makes the end never

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Speaker 2: race like this so compelling because the jeopardy and just

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Speaker 2: how treacherous things were, and it all built to this

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Speaker 2: fantastic conclusion where you're looking at it with five laps

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, the last five laps in and of

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Speaker 2: themselves are probably worthy of a podcast, don't they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And it's Matt Paine, who emerged victorious. So

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Speaker 1: I did not take the check a flag that was

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Speaker 1: James Golding, which would have been a remarkable zult for

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Speaker 1: Premiere is nonetheless a poonium is a remarkable zult for Premiere.

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Speaker 1: He was penalized for causing a collision earlier on in

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Speaker 1: earlier on in the race. Admittedly it was still during

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Speaker 1: these conditions, which in my opinion was fair, and this

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Speaker 1: has proved controversial among some quarters. I just think in

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Speaker 1: those conditions it was two ambitious. I feel really bad

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Speaker 1: for Cooper Murray, actually, who was if we had a

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Speaker 1: start of the Day segment, maybe someone's responsor to that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'd certainly be mine, considering his rookie status. But in

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Speaker 1: Sometimes things get a little bit crazy behind the wheel.

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Speaker 1: But Matt Paine kept his call, as you'd imagine if

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Speaker 1: anyone's anyone has to see how Matt pain behaves in

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Speaker 1: real life, He's always keeping his call and was in

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Speaker 1: the bout this one thousand, a huge result for him

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Speaker 1: in the supercars and really interesting considering we have a

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Speaker 1: with Triple eight coming in, but Grove obviously growing into

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Speaker 1: something that I think him being a obviously means it

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Speaker 1: Garth Tander now being a six time winner of this

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Speaker 1: because you're still driving the car. You're still driving pretty

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Speaker 1: but that I think is really impressive. And I think

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of skepticism when he chose

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Speaker 1: maybe we're not talking about Matt Payne and Garthtander as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you judge someone by the company they

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Speaker 2: let's be honest. And now he's in that sort of

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Speaker 2: of course, you know the subtext of this whole season.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about the finals right for a while now.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to take away out of that, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's the hard luck stories and god, there were

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Speaker 2: near misses and the people that have cemented their places.

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Speaker 2: But what was your big takeaway from all of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so after all of the finals permutations, we talked

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Speaker 1: close for let's say, a handful of positions, even if

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Speaker 1: many more were mathematically in contention. No changes to the

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Speaker 1: drivers who qualified. Everyone was in the top ten last

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Speaker 1: does show you know, we talked about big points paying races.

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Speaker 1: It is genuinely big misfortune that means you miss out

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Speaker 1: for a moment there Though it looked like brock Feni

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Speaker 1: He's scored enough points to stay ahead of Matt Pain,

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Speaker 1: not by much, but he did. So the order in

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Speaker 1: Will Brown, who holds third place, but quite distantly the

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Speaker 1: defending champion. Then cam Orders Brodie is stick. He moved

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Speaker 1: up one place ahead of Chas Mostat, so he gets

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Speaker 1: kay Allen a rookie in the finals. That's very exciting

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Speaker 1: and that really reflects how strong not a finish to

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Speaker 1: discover it has been really good, really impressive and justifying

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Speaker 1: of laps to consider over the course of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: and he treated it like that, and I just know

433
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Speaker 1: there are a couple of people saying, oh, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: this is a bit too much, he's taking too much risk,

435
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Speaker 1: or that risk put him a position to capitalize on

436
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Speaker 1: those safety guards that got made pain in the position

437
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Speaker 1: to take the lead after the Ticckert plagu has it happened.

438
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Speaker 1: So I really like the approach he took, go in

439
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: caution to the wind, because that delivered and that shows that. Actually,

440
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 1: I think the approach for batist you have to take

441
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Speaker 1: now is you've got to be all out for six hours,

442
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Speaker 1: and that actually I think heightens a spectacle in some

443
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Speaker 1: respects because it means that you know, you're seeing these

444
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Speaker 1: drivers going all out all the time. It's not like

445
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Speaker 1: a traditional endurance way through. He's just trying to make

446
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Speaker 1: it to the finish. So I'm giving it to him

447
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 1: for I think it was five overtakes maybe in that

448
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 1: first sin to have to go back and count the ball,

449
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Speaker 1: but obviously added up to a lot more than that

450
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Speaker 1: by the time we got to the ticket flag well.

451
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Speaker 2: And as we touched on earlier, that's when you've got

452
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Speaker 2: the experience and the pedigree around there to know when

453
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Speaker 2: it's time to go, I think, and that was one

454
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Speaker 2: of those situations like, oh, okay, we need to do

455
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Speaker 2: something now because you can see how these races play

456
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Speaker 2: out going forward because you've had so much experience at

457
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 2: the front of them. So I do like the selection,

458
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Speaker 2: but I also love me a bit of bathist where

459
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 2: it's not quite wet and not quite dry and a

460
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 2: little bit sketchy. It certainly brings you forward on the

461
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Speaker 2: end of the on the edge of the couch, doesn't it.

462
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Speaker 1: I think. So it was a great race, and it

463
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Speaker 1: was the great Race, as they call it, and that's

464
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Speaker 1: the great race start for one year. But let's move

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Speaker 1: on to a different race, the United States Grand Prix.

466
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Speaker 1: It is this weekend. Formula On resumes after a week's

467
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Speaker 1: break following the Singapore Grand Prix and Matt you'll be

468
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Speaker 1: very excited to know it's a spread weekend, thirty three

469
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Speaker 1: points up for grabs for the winner of the races,

470
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Speaker 1: and the sprint is that the time's not perfect for

471
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Speaker 1: Australian audiences, but you know, you can get up and

472
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Speaker 1: watch it anyway, or you can record it. How do

473
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Speaker 1: you like to do it? But that means more racing

474
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Speaker 1: this weekend and more opportunities for us to understand exactly

475
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Speaker 1: where the title battle and how it is poised, because

476
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Speaker 1: the last few weeks have given us some information, perhaps

477
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Speaker 1: not as much as we wanted. The headline numbers, of course,

478
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Speaker 1: that Piastri still leads the title by twenty three or

479
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: twenty two points rather over Orlando Norris and Max with

480
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 1: Stappan's still sixty three points by and still a lot.

481
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Speaker 1: But the other way you can look at it is

482
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Speaker 1: that Verstappen's beaten at least one McLaren driver over the

483
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Speaker 1: last four weekends and beaten both in the last three.

484
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Speaker 1: That seems fairly definitive, doesn't it. For the Red Bull

485
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Speaker 1: Racing's momentum. McLaren believes Singapore is evidence of that that

486
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Speaker 1: Red Bull Racing's back in the game. Maxwistafan said, well,

487
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Speaker 1: actually turns out the car is probably capable of this

488
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Speaker 1: all season. We just needed someone brackets Laura Mecky is

489
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Speaker 1: not Christian Horner to figure it out. This will give

490
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Speaker 1: us more of an answer because this for the first

491
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Speaker 1: time pretty much all this part of the season since

492
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Speaker 1: the mid season break, where at what we'd probably consider

493
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Speaker 1: Matt a typical well rounded circuit the weather should be

494
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Speaker 1: pretty quote unquote normal, warm and sunny. I assume I

495
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Speaker 1: haven't actually checked the forecast yet, and who knows by

496
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Speaker 1: that time. By the time we get there, this should

497
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Speaker 1: be a pretty good litmus test.

498
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Speaker 2: I think so because this strikes me as being more

499
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Speaker 2: of a pure car race, and I use air quotes

500
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Speaker 2: around that because you take away some of the other

501
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Speaker 2: variables of some of the circuits that we've been at recently.

502
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Speaker 2: Monds are obviously just complete one off of a track

503
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: Backuho's a bit mad for a street circuit and fairly unusual.

504
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Speaker 2: And then Singapore with all the various challenges there, this

505
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 2: feels more like a more like a baseline circuit, if

506
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Speaker 2: you like. And what's really interesting for me, well, there's

507
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Speaker 2: two things here. What point do these footsteps really start

508
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Speaker 2: getting loud with the stap and trailing the two McLaren's

509
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Speaker 2: but eating into this margin race by race because we've

510
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: round by round, given they've got sprints to go. I

511
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Speaker 2: think there comes a point where one really really poor

512
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: weekend for Piastre or Norris will do so much damage

513
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Speaker 2: to their chances for the rest of the season and

514
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Speaker 2: totally changes the narrative. Whereas maybe a couple of rounds ago,

515
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Speaker 2: you'd have that one blar weekend and we'd say, well, okay,

516
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: mathematically sure, but it's not really changed a whole lot.

517
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Speaker 2: I think the footsteps are definitely getting louder. What's interesting

518
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Speaker 2: for me is that we still have a quarter of

519
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: the season to go, at least I remind you, But

520
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: we're coming into a point of the season now where

521
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Speaker 2: it's out of two teams, really Mercedes might have the

522
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Speaker 2: outlier of Vegas. And I'm not even mentioning Ferrari because

523
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to do anything. But you

524
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Speaker 2: look at Red Bull and mcla To my mind, you

525
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Speaker 2: look at the rest of the calendar, I think there

526
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Speaker 2: are definitive circuits that suit either team. Despite the fact

527
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Speaker 2: that you know how this is going to work, they're

528
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Speaker 2: both going to run us far away as being considered

529
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Speaker 2: favorites for any race ever, Like you know, the McLarens

530
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Speaker 2: could be in a race by themselves. Oh no, we're

531
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Speaker 2: not favorites for this one. Everyone loves to play the

532
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: underdog card here, But you look at the tracks that

533
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Speaker 2: we've got coming for the rest of the season, with

534
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Speaker 2: Kosha being the first one. I think you can see

535
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Speaker 2: a bit of a pattern as to which tracks might

536
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Speaker 2: suit which teams and particularly which drivers, and then that

537
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Speaker 2: may enable us to perhaps project forward a little bit

538
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Speaker 2: and see what do we have coming down the pipe

539
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Speaker 2: here for these last six Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting thing to consider, and

541
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Speaker 1: let's go through it now and you can read about

542
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Speaker 1: it as well over the course of the week at

543
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Speaker 1: Fox sports dot com dot au because when you have

544
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Speaker 1: some wild card circuits in this last part of the year,

545
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Speaker 1: I think, more so than the first flyaway segment of

546
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Speaker 1: races as well, I think there's some real curve balls

547
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Speaker 1: in here. But this, as you said, being the good

548
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Speaker 1: baseline to start us off and give us an impression

549
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Speaker 1: on paper, Matt, I would have said this was more

550
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Speaker 1: on the McLaren side of the LEGI you know, we've

551
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: think about that first sector after the Heapin anyway, I've

552
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of medium to high speed corners, long

553
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: duration corners. That's McLaren territory. Not to mention the fact

554
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: it's usually going to be hot, and yes I have

555
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: just to forecast low thirties all weekend and not a

556
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: cloud in the sky. That is perfect. McLaren conditions for

557
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: keeping those rear tires in their happy plays. McLaren, however,

558
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: Andrea Stellar is hearing him speaker after the Singapore Grand Prix,

559
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Speaker 1: suggests that the tightness of a lot of the corners

560
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Speaker 1: and you think about that first heappin and the last

561
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: sector so oh, the heapin heading onto the back straight

562
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: as well, and then the last sector much tighter, he believes,

563
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: is much more red Bull Racing territory. We're now in

564
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Speaker 1: that part of the championship and it does feel a

565
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Speaker 1: little bit reminiscent of last year where both teams say

566
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Speaker 1: the other team is the favorite, which, well, I think

567
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Speaker 1: that sort of tells us nothing. In one respects I

568
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: think tells us a little bit about McLaren, which is

569
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Speaker 1: it's now keeping expectations very much in check for Red

570
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Speaker 1: Bull Racing. I think they're more likely, Weirdly enough, I

571
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Speaker 1: don't know if I've said this about Red Bull before,

572
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: more likely to be being honest in that as sense.

573
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Speaker 1: Good look, I think that I think that this might

574
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Speaker 1: be a bit more of a curveball. I'm still going

575
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Speaker 1: to stick with McLaren, but do you see it differently?

576
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Speaker 2: This track, to me is one where I think you

577
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Speaker 2: can track position and can you defend. Now it's not

578
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Speaker 2: quite Suzuka in that regard because there's so few places

579
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Speaker 2: to pass there, but track position here and Verstappen's ability

580
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Speaker 2: to protect a lead, as we've seen that a couple

581
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: of times this year where he's been so brilliant at this,

582
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: the big test will be what's their traction like out

583
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: of the hairpin going down the back straight and can

584
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Speaker 2: they retain position there a lot of the rest of

585
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Speaker 2: this lap. You could see him driving a very very

586
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Speaker 2: wide red bull if he has a track position at

587
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Speaker 2: this weekend. And that's another curve ball here because I

588
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: would trust for Stappen in our head to heead fight

589
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Speaker 2: when he's in the ascendency, probably more than I would

590
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: trust Norris or Piastric quite frankly, because we've seen it before.

591
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Speaker 2: So taking the high ground here, I mean, look, this

592
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Speaker 2: is you know you're saying this feels like a McLaren track.

593
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Speaker 2: I mean vestappens one three to the past four here, right.

594
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Speaker 2: McLaren hasn't won here for ages, and I know a

595
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Speaker 2: lot of McLaren's past in that time has not been

596
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: particularly impressive, but this should be a track that suits

597
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Speaker 2: McLaren Moore. But the keyword for me is should, because

598
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Speaker 2: I don't have a massive amount of confidence that it will.

599
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Speaker 2: And then you feed that into what's coming after Austin

600
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Speaker 2: in terms of the narrative of the championship and keeping

601
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Speaker 2: us all on the edge of our seats. Man of

602
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: a Stabbin win this weekend would be quite something, wouldn't.

603
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Speaker 1: It would be huge? And just one other thing I

604
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: went out to the mix in Austin before we move

605
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Speaker 1: on to the other races, is this is usually a

606
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Speaker 1: strategy race. It'll be a couple of pit stops because

607
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Speaker 1: of the heat, and I think I would be willing

608
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Speaker 1: to say a weakness if they're locked in a tight

609
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Speaker 1: battle with the stab and for McLaren is strategy because

610
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Speaker 1: now they're thinking about how they can make it fair

611
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Speaker 1: between two drivers. If we're assuming the two drivers are

612
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Speaker 1: battling Max, that numerical advantage we normally consider to be

613
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Speaker 1: a strategic advantage I think would actually be a hindrance

614
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Speaker 1: for McLaren this weekend. So that's going to put the

615
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Speaker 1: spotlight back on that entire situation that we've been talking

616
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Speaker 1: about on and off all season and certainly since Singapore.

617
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Speaker 1: How does McLaren play this one?

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Speaker 2: The other part of battle this you mentioned multiple pit

619
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Speaker 2: stops are more strategy. When was the last time McLaren

620
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: had a race where they nailed all their pit stops.

621
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Speaker 2: It's been a while exactly.

622
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Speaker 1: Yes, the team's now talking about this being a year

623
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Speaker 1: long problem they won't be able to solve till next year.

624
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that as I saw those comments,

625
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: and just thinking, what a terrible time to have that realization. Oh,

626
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: when you've got you've got maxistaff and approaching, you've got

627
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: this fairness issue with your drivers. It's something to keep

628
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: an eye on, certainly. Like you say, two stops, terrible

629
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: outcome from McLaren. Then we're moving on to Mexico City

630
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: immediately afterwards, one of the great wild card circuits because

631
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: of the altitude. You'll hear it a lot in that week,

632
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: which is the week after Austin that it's wings like Monaco,

633
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: but downforce like Monza. It's hard to know exactly how

634
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: to read that one. There are a couple of elements though,

635
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: I think we should throw in there. One is the heat.

636
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: McLaren does really well in the heat, has what appears

637
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: to be really effective cooling as well. A bit of

638
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: a question mark for Red Bull. I'm considering they haven't

639
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: been really put through its paces since its lader's upgrades

640
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing. But I do think

641
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: we've seen that Red Bull has a much more efficient

642
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: aerodynamic package and perhaps we realized earlier on in the campaign.

643
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: And I wonder whether that actually puts Red Bull Racing

644
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: ahead for this race and becomes a bit of a

645
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: danger race for McLaren, particularly considering you will remember both

646
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Speaker 1: of the last two Mexico Grand Prix, one of the

647
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: McLaren drivers have been knocked out in Q one.

648
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and also the other factor here if you're looking

649
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: for a differentiator between the two teams. Max Fustappens won

650
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: this Grand Prix five times and sometimes he was in

651
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: the best car and there were some years that he

652
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: wor most certainly was not in the best car. So

653
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Mexico and I'm sure we'll get to Brazil in a

654
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: sec they're the two races for the rest of the

655
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: year where I believe I would say that Vestapan has

656
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: the biggest chance to make the most difference relative to

657
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: his rivals. The fact that they're coming up in the

658
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: first half of this final six to go for the

659
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: rest of the season really could turn the screws on McLaren.

660
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: And then we don't really know how McLaren's going to

661
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: react with a dwindling margin and they're trying to keep

662
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: this fairness it inverted cobbers between two drivers consistent for

663
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, there might come a point

664
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Speaker 2: where they have to prioritize.

665
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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, yeah, I think that is going to be

666
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: very interesting. Let's move to Brazil. Let's consider it as

667
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: a duo if youel like I was a week off

668
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: between them, because that feels like, certainly after last year

669
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Max Withstappen's victory there that effectively sealed the title to him,

670
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: snuffed out any chance of this big long shot Lando

671
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: Norris title recovery. Plus Norris and McLaren generally having a

672
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: bit of an ordinary race in mixed conditions, of course,

673
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: this feels like a big for Stapen opportunity. I think

674
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: if we're still seeing that title gap come down, if

675
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: it's coming down at the required rate, this could be

676
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: the one that really gets him back into contentent, particularly

677
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: considering I know there was a stat a while ago

678
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: that's saying, actually, most Brazilian Grand Prix are dry, but

679
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: it feels like it's always a risk that it's going

680
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: to be wet.

681
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last one that was fully dry.

682
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: Every single year there is a session that is compromised

683
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: somewhere by the rain, and maybe some years happened on

684
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: the Friday. We've kind of forgot by the time we

685
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: get to the race weekend, but we know that if

686
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: it's somewhat damp around there, that's for staff and territory.

687
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Like some of his most dominant Formula one wins have

688
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: come at that particular venue when there's been weather involved.

689
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: I think if there's any weather at all, I think

690
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 2: he wins that one pretty comfortably. But yeah, where are

691
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: we going to be by the time we get to Intologos,

692
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Because you know what happens to ostin, what happens at

693
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Mexico City. It just comes a point. I just keep

694
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: thinking of this word footsteps here, like, at what point

695
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: does the tremor of the ground beneath McLaren really start

696
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: to raise some raise some pulses. Because of all the

697
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: things we don't know for the rest of the season,

698
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: the one thing that we do know, if there's a

699
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: championship to be taken. Maxistappen is good enough and talented

700
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: enough and confident enough to go and take that. That's

701
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: not something we have any conjecture over. We know that

702
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: we've seen it. That's the one certainty in the back

703
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: end of this season. What's going to happen with the McLaren's.

704
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: Which one's going to be in front, Are they going

705
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: to be able to hold their nerve, can they execute

706
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: a pit stop? All these other things? With what is

707
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: it one hundred and seventy four points still to play for,

708
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: those footsteps could get pretty loud, pretty fast, I think.

709
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: So that's it felt like in a McLaren's performance after

710
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: locking out the front row. I think it was or

711
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: at least in the sprint, and then yeah one two

712
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: in the sprint as well. Of course, with the team

713
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: orders situation there or was Lando Norris on Pilwick, they

714
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't look out. The front row qualifying was pretty wild,

715
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: but the execution was just not great at that race.

716
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: But Staffen was also very fast in the sprint, if

717
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: you'll remember, McLaren couldn't shake him and then obviously won

718
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: that race. So on paper, I think you could say

719
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: that this layout should be about McLaren, but I think

720
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: there's just something for Staffen brings to this one, So

721
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be one to watch, as you say. Then

722
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: we go to Las Vegas after another week off. This

723
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: is the start of triple headed to end the season

724
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: in non stop by the time we get to the

725
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: technical flag. But this for me is a real unusual

726
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: one because Okay, maybe there's no real likeness to this track,

727
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: but perhaps the most recent similarity riddle track we can

728
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: think about is perhaps Baku, very different conditions but sort

729
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: of similar in the sense it's long straights, ninety degree corners.

730
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: The Staffen was obviously very good there, but I'm actually

731
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: thinking back to last year, Matt, when Mercedes was just dominant.

732
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: They still have a lot of the strengths and weakness

733
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: is of last year. I think this may actually be

734
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: the one third party victory left in this season.

735
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think that if there's

736
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: any race that won't be won by a McLaren driver

737
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: or maxivstap and I was going to say Red Bull,

738
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: but let's speak to call it what it is. If

739
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: there's going to be any of these remaining six it's

740
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: not won by any of those three, it would be

741
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: Vegas because it's also so cold. That's the other part

742
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: about it there, we know how well that Mercedes does

743
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: in the cooler conditions. That's another little wildcard, isn't it,

744
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Because very rarely have we said this year we go

745
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: into a Grand Prix where we don't think that it's

746
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: a McLaren or Verstappan that will be the favorite heading

747
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: into it. I could see neither of those two teams

748
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: being super confident of beating Mercedes, given what we know

749
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: about Vegas and the two times we've been there.

750
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good call. But I do

751
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: think we could say that regardless of who wins it,

752
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: assuming it's not one of those two teams, it's probably

753
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: going to be a staping ahead of McLaren's. Last year,

754
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: we saw this was a real McLaren week race. They've

755
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: been forecasting off for quite a while that this will

756
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: not be a great race for McLaren and on pape

757
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: you can understand why. It's all tight corners. It's cold

758
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: reartire advantage it doesn't exist, So I think that could

759
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: at least be you know, if we're not talking about

760
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: the massive points that could still be a big opportunity

761
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: for Max to outscore McLaren. And then we get to

762
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: the last two in Kata and Abu Dhabi. This is

763
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: another couple of races where on paper, and we've heard

764
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi talked about McLaren track as well. On paper,

765
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: you can understand why this should be a race that

766
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: McLaren should be able to a couple of races rather

767
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: that should be able to close out the season on

768
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: a high, secure the driver's title presumably by then. But

769
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: last year we thought that a cutter and Max for

770
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: staff and was very competitive there and won the Grand Prix.

771
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: And looking at Abu Dhabi, okay, they've taken out some

772
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: of the tighter corners and we've now got, for example,

773
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: that turn nine long parabolic corner and hour as opposed

774
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: to that sort of Biddley chicane situation. The heap in

775
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: the end of the first sector has been changed as well,

776
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of tight corners here, still

777
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: breaking up the long back straight as a chicane. That

778
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: whole pretend city section of the last sector is all

779
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: just tight ninety degree corners. The first turns not that fast.

780
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I actually wonder whether and look, we're looking a long

781
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: way down now. We're going to learn a lot in

782
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: the next certainly this weekend, the next few weekends to

783
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: assess these as we get closest to them. But I'm

784
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: actually looking these and are wondering if everything we've learned

785
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: is accurate over the last four rounds, maybe these are not.

786
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: This is not the happy final few weeks for McLaren

787
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: that they were probably counting on earlier in the year.

788
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, even as recently as three rounds ago, you could say,

789
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: three or four rounds ago. But the other factor in

790
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: all of this, as much as we can think which circuit,

791
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: which suits which driver and which team, there's the tension

792
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: element of all of this. And we've talked about McLaren

793
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: all year. Well, they've been the best team and the

794
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: driver's going to finish one two in the championship. The

795
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: very fact that neither Piastre nor Norris has won a

796
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: world championship all come close before in Formula one, and

797
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: you've got the trailing party in all of these is

798
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: the person who we've got no questions about. We know

799
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: exactly what he's capable of. In situations like that, there

800
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: is a tension slash human element. As the clock ticks down,

801
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: that is going to become increasingly a factor, not so

802
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: much as track layouts and conditions. And I just wonder

803
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: at what point the performance of the cars that the

804
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: various drivers are driving takes a little bit of a

805
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: backseat or is less important than the emotional belief. You know,

806
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: you've got this huge prize in front of you if

807
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: you're Piastre or Norris, completely uncharted territory for both of them,

808
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: uncharted territory for McLaren. They've not been this deep in

809
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: a title fight for a very very long time. And

810
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: the last person you want behind you in this situation,

811
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: I would say would be Max for Stappin.

812
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is a definite twist there is.

813
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: It's not all just about form, but it's also going

814
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: to be about holding, you know, it's absolutely correct, and

815
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: just also considering whether the maths comes into it. You know,

816
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: if we get to those last couple of rounds and

817
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Piastre has a twenty odd point lead over Nora, still

818
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: does he play for points just to grind it out,

819
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: or if Max Verstappan's closing into they just play to

820
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: try and push him out of the equation rather than

821
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: gambling on racing him completely and then finding out they

822
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: can't continue to do it. That is going to be

823
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: an interesting component to this. It'll be fascinating to watch.

824
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: But the first round of this last six of the

825
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: season is this weekend at the United States Grand Prix.

826
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: It's going to be a fascinating one to watch. We

827
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: can't wrap up this podcast without going to the crystal ball,

828
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: brought to you by a complete home filtration. Obviously, I'm

829
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: on a great streak of one, but you like to

830
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: kick us off.

831
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: If you get it right this week, then we'll call

832
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: it a coincidence. I'm not ready to call it a

833
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: trend just yet. You probably need three or four for

834
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: me to give you a little more credit than that.

835
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: But well, given that it's in my wheelhouse here my

836
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: two wheelhouse, I'm going to look at the MAJORVP round

837
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 2: in Australia, And as much as we talked about Marco

838
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Batzeki before being a little bit secondhand after his crash

839
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: at Mandalika, I think Berzeki wins this weekend simply he's

840
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: been too fast lately to not be right up the front.

841
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: And I think the most interesting part for me. Yeah,

842
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: he's got to overcome some bumps and bruises and he's

843
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: going to have a great penalty at Philip Island. It's

844
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: probably not as much of a penalty as it is

845
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: at other tracks. This is the time of year where

846
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: a Prillia has tended in the past to go a

847
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: bit missing when we get to the flyaways. It's been

848
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: a bike that's been amazing at certain tracks, but not

849
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: particularly good when you get to the flyways. It had

850
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: a sweet spot of you know, Argentina or Cashaaluna or

851
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: somewhere like that, and we tend to fade into obscurity

852
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: a little bit. Here's a stat for you. And Aprilli

853
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: has never finished better than eighth in an Australian Grand Perox,

854
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: so it's not been a very happy hunting ground for them.

855
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: But you look at who's not here, the form that

856
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: Buzeki's in. I know he's got some things to get

857
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: over this weekend. But Aprilia has been much more of

858
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: a bike for all seasons and all conditions this year.

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Speaker 2: And I think my crystal ball is telling me that

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Speaker 2: Marco Pozeki is going to be standing on the top

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Speaker 2: step of the podium in Australia where he should have

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Speaker 2: been doing it in Indonesia two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it'd be quite Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to be quite as granular

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Speaker 2: as me. But I dare say you're going four wheels

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Speaker 2: in Austin. What have you got?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Because Worth just adding there that you do need

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00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: a bike quite literally for all seasons, of all conditions,

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: certainly do so. I think that's a good good sign.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go four wheels to the the United States.

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00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: Grow on pre Obviously, all the talk leading up to

872
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Speaker 1: this race has been about the situation of McLaren, what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the team internally. I'm going to keep

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Speaker 1: this one simple. I think the resolution we're going to

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Speaker 1: finally get to all of the McLaren saga this weekend

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Speaker 1: in Austin. Both drivers are going to take each other

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Speaker 1: out on the fast floor. It's gonna be a great

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00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: race for the championship for Max Verstaffman. I think it's

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00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know, I was very much of the opinion,

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00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: despite what Zach Brown was saying, that it wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: happen this season too. They're too much playing by the

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Speaker 1: rules that they aren't. I really didn't say anything malicious

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Speaker 1: in Lando Norris did, even if I think that the

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Speaker 1: fairness questions it raises are genuine. But I think if

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Speaker 1: you're Oscar Piastre, you're not giving anything anymore. I think

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: you're too irritated unless they've given him just a tremendous

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Speaker 1: explanation back at working in the last week, I think

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Speaker 1: you are just out not completely for yourself. You're not

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Speaker 1: going to be absolutely ruthless, but when it comes to

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Speaker 1: racing your teammate on track, I think he will be.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's going to result in someone not

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Speaker 1: giving enough room, not going to say who don't have

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Speaker 1: that level of granularity in this crystal ball still from

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Speaker 1: last week, but I'm still top's coming this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean you look at all of the

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Speaker 2: first corners of all the tracks we talked about for

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Speaker 2: the remainder of the season, Austin and maybe the essays

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Speaker 2: the center ess at Interlagos is the other one where

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Speaker 2: things can go a bit wrong. But the context of

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Speaker 2: what happened in Singapore last time out and the fact

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00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: the team has the Constructors Championship in the bag, now

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Speaker 2: there might be an increased level of aggression. Of all

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Speaker 2: the race weekends that I didn't want to sprint, it's

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Speaker 2: this weekend because I don't want I want to see

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Speaker 2: what happens at the first corner on Sunday. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to dress rehearsal on Saturday and then all of

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00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: the various redressings of things and changing of tactics. I

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Speaker 2: kind of wish we just had a Sunday Grand Prix

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Speaker 2: with those two in the first two rows, because there's

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: so many lines you can take into turb one there

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: at Austin. I think that is a very very good

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00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: call by you, and I'm calling it now. Your crystal

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Speaker 2: ball's got a lot more chance of happening than my.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, underrated the first turn at Austin, I think's probably

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Speaker 1: one of the great first turns for Grandfrex racing anyway.

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Speaker 1: And'll be fascinating to say, big weekend of motorsport. It's

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Speaker 1: all on Fox Sports. But that's all the time we

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Speaker 1: a rating and review as well. And this weekend it

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Speaker 1: is The Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix with live coverage on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports and KO all weekend and with lights out

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at two pm, followed by the Formula one

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Speaker 1: United States Grand Prix from six am on Monday. That's

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Speaker 1: to date with all the latest F one, MotoGP and

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Speaker 1: Clayton and me, Michael Lomonato. Thanks very much for your

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Speaker 1: company and we'll catch you next week