1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we take your 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: questions and do our best to answer them. I'm Michael 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Thompson and good afternoon, Sean aylmer Lli Michael, Sean. Today's 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: question comes from Daniel and he went to our website 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed dot com dot au and sent it 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: in through there. And you can do it through the website, 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: or you can go to Facebook or LinkedIn or Instagram 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: and send us a message on any of those and 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: we'll pop your question on the list. But Daniel went 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: to the website and he said, Sean, you've said that 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Australia is about six months behind the US on interest rates. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: With so many other countries including the US now having 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: cut rates, shouldn't the RBA actually be thinking about the 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: same thing. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: Hmm, well, you'd think so. And I'd hate to say 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: that what I have said previously about the six months 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: is wrong or anything, but say you're right. So more 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: than half developed countries have now cut interest rates, Daniel, 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: including the US and New Zealand and Canada and the UK, 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: and Australia has been six months behind. So the logic 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: is that surely we will move in the next few months. 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: The difference, it seems in Australia is our economy is 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 2: just holding up a bit better than everywhere else. Now, 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: partly that's because interest rates in Australia didn't quite go 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: up as far as some of those other countries. Therefore 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: has have sort of less to fall. So I think 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: a big reason for it. From Daniel, I'm saying from Daniel, 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, Michael, But Daniel, I'm talking to you. 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at Michael. Daniel. Look, our race didn't 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: go up as much, so our rates probably don't have 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: to fall as much, so they probably don't have to 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: fall quite as fast. But a bit more to that, Michael, 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: I think, are you going to tell me that or 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: are you just going to tease me with that? 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Why then, is our economy more resilient than others? I 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: know that it was part of the interest rates not 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: going as high. Is it the fact that our employment 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: market has remained so strong because we've been able to 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: keep exporting so much? 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: What is it? So, there's a few things. It is 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: employment market and migration. We've had huge amounts of people 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: coming in that's really given some oomph to the market. 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: The other thing that Australia we all have these variable 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: rate home lines, whereas many other countries they tend the 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: UK and US particularly to have fixed right homelans. So 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: if you change and interest rate here, the transmission effect 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: is pretty quick gets it hits homeowners really quickly, whereas 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: in the UK US they may have to move more 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: one way or another to actually have the same impact 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: because all these people have fixed rate loans. So there's 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: a couple of things in Australia, migration and the fact 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: that we all have these variable rate loans, which has 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: made shifts in interest rates different to overseas. Having said 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: all that, we are still about six months behind now, 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a rate 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: cut until kind of the middle of next year. And 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: we spoke about this a couple of months ago. The 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: consensus you is definitely February. They think by February they'll 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: have to move. But those employment figures we saw in 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks got that labor markets strong, 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: so I just wouldn't put my money on that either. 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: So it could be more than six months, okay, And 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: so Michelle Bullock, the Reserve Bank Governor, has been quite adamant, 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: hasn't she when she's been asked this question kind of 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: why are we not following the US? Why are we're 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: not following others in doing this? And she's been quite 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: clear that that Australia will run its own race right 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: because there's so much other data to assess it on, 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: not what other countries are doing. 70 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: And what she has said is that we will cut 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: rates when we think that inflation will get to that 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: two to three percent target band in a sustainable manner. 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: It's at three point nine percent now, it's not anywhere 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: near two to three percent and certainly not in a 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: sustainable manner. So we've still got a while. 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: I feel like Michelle Bullock is like the nation's parent, 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: where she's like, if if little Timmy told you to 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: jump off a cliff, would you do that too? You 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: know that kind of Yeah, No, I'm sorry. It's well, 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: just because the US is going to cut rates doesn't 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: mean we have to as well. It feels as though 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: it almost at that point in the posts RBA board 83 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: meeting references, it's just like this question again. 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: Has she got kids? Michelle Block, She does, She's got 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: a couple of kids, hasn't she I don't know. Does 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: she take the same sort of tone at home as 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: she does the Reserve Bank meetings? 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: You would you would imagine that that dealing with a 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: bunch of journalists in the in the press conference after 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: the RBA board meeting would be like dealing with a 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: bunch of children at times, because everyone is asking the 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: same question, in many. 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Cases different way. Isn't it just very very. 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Very slightly changing the wording? 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: Can I have a doughnut? No you can't? Okay? Can 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: I have one of those round things with icing on it? No? 97 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: No? 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: Can't you know what you brought home today? Can I 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: have one of those? No? You can't. 100 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, indeed, it's exactly the same. Anyway, we've gone 101 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: off on a slight kind of tangent. But coming back 102 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: to Daniel's question, we have answered it. Do you agree, Sean? 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: Yes? 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Done, we are finished. We are all well and truly done. 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: Thank you Daniel for the question, and thank you Sean 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: for answering it so well. 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Thank you Michael, Thank you Daniel. 108 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: Remember, if you've got something that you would like to know, 109 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: then please send through your question on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, 110 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: or do what Daniel did, and head along to Fear 111 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: and Greed dot com dot are you. I'm Michael Thompson 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: and this is ask Fear and Greed