Speaker 1: Guying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, wead welcome
Speaker 1: to the show before the long weekend, before another long weekend,
Speaker 1: both of course with incredible importance to Christian Australians this
Speaker 1: weekend and then to all Australians next weekend. Happy Easter.
Speaker 1: And of course this time next week I'm going to
Speaker 1: be living a dream because we are going to be
Speaker 1: in Western Australia. We will be on our way to
Speaker 1: Calgooley and I want you to join us next Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 1: not this but next Sunday night, the twenty seven in Calgooley.
Speaker 1: If you can make it, get yourself there, ourtown. It's
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Speaker 1: dot you love to get into the orange dirt. We
Speaker 1: will do so next weekend, looking forward to it. Sixteen
Speaker 1: days until the federal election. Tuesday is when the first
Speaker 1: votes will be cast. In an election where there is
Speaker 1: a fork in the road, there is a way to
Speaker 1: continue what we are doing with the problems we've had
Speaker 1: over the past three years, or a chance, as the
Speaker 1: opposition will say, to put the country back on track.
Speaker 1: At the other an easy world today again, just basking
Speaker 1: in the terribleness of the performance that he had last
Speaker 1: night at the debate, where negative gearing was back on
Speaker 1: the table, and let me explain how that should work
Speaker 1: for the rest of the election. Today unbelievable. The headline
Speaker 1: is no new spending announcements, but relax, he's made plenty
Speaker 1: since January.
Speaker 2: A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million
Speaker 2: dollars ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty
Speaker 2: seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,
Speaker 2: two point four billion dollars eight point five billion dollar,
Speaker 2: four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point
Speaker 2: four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars, one hundred and fifty million dollars, one billion dollars,
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five million dollars, six million dollars,
Speaker 2: three million dollars, ten billion dollars, twenty four million dollars,
Speaker 2: nine million dollars, fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: As I said on Monday night, that's the show. It's
Speaker 1: time to go. What a list it keeps growing and
Speaker 1: growing and growing old. But our only account since the
Speaker 1: start of the election. No, no, all of those huge
Speaker 1: promises made to change the subject, to change the polls,
Speaker 1: it slowly has worked. But all of that spending since
Speaker 1: the start of this year extraordinary and we're on our
Speaker 1: way to one point two tea for trillion dollars debt.
Speaker 1: As for the Opposition leader and Peter Dubnin, he was
Speaker 1: focused today. I'm trying to get more kids to use
Speaker 1: the final part of their high schooling. If they want
Speaker 1: to try to marry that in with becoming a trade
Speaker 1: this would be the way to go today. The announcement
Speaker 1: was to put back what of course Coalition governments have
Speaker 1: long believed in, which is specific trade schools, not ones
Speaker 1: automatically linked to unions or the education unions. He's the
Speaker 1: announcement made today by I think the Deputy leader as well.
Speaker 3: So our announcement of two hundred and sixty million dollars
Speaker 3: for twelve new Australian trade colleges across the country starts
Speaker 3: right here in Patterson today. This once in a generational
Speaker 3: form of our schooling system is about bringing excellence in
Speaker 3: skills back into schools now.
Speaker 1: As for the media and how they tried to spin
Speaker 1: it for Labor to day, despite the fact that the
Speaker 1: train wreck of a performance the Prime Minister put on
Speaker 1: at the debate last night, where he was proven as
Speaker 1: a liar time and time again when he was trying
Speaker 1: to go on the attack. Those were lies as well.
Speaker 1: But of course the majority of the access media, Oh,
Speaker 1: he was great, he was wonderful. He was a dead rubber.
Speaker 1: There was nothing to see here. Please, if you saw
Speaker 1: it with your own eyes or saw, of course what
Speaker 1: we played you, which was the tapes last night, there
Speaker 1: would be a few more than these type of softballs
Speaker 1: that you'd throw at the Prime Minister today.
Speaker 4: Do you think that Peter Dunn is a climate denier
Speaker 4: based on the debate last night? And also, you know
Speaker 4: there's just over two weeks to go in the campaign,
Speaker 4: a lot of public holidays in that time. Are you
Speaker 4: confident that you can score some votes, especially in seats
Speaker 4: like this help?
Speaker 5: But levels, why do people underestimate you so much? Given
Speaker 5: that you flip the poles in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 5: You're in the lead and your opposition leader has been
Speaker 5: caught seemingly woefully unprepared. She's my last day with you
Speaker 5: on the campaign for a while, so I called that
Speaker 5: you will indulg to the other side.
Speaker 2: Believed or not the other side you won't be as happy.
Speaker 1: Lut see how that all works. Perfect example about the
Speaker 1: access right, And she was one of the reporters who
Speaker 1: got the little one on one because of course she
Speaker 1: was towing the line. Can you believe this? We are
Speaker 1: two weeks away from either re hiring one of the
Speaker 1: worst governments we've ever had or changing to a new one.
Speaker 1: The tough questions should be for both sides all the time.
Speaker 1: They should be about the flaws in their ideas. Instead
Speaker 1: it's just about could you please say something terrible about
Speaker 1: the bad guy? I need it for my story. But no,
Speaker 1: the tough questions well, they of course were all for
Speaker 1: Peter dunn't despite the fact in the debate last night,
Speaker 1: to the ratings more than a million people ended up
Speaker 1: seeing plenty more on socials as well. So that's why
Speaker 1: it's worth I think noting how good Peter Dutton was
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 4: Now, yesterday's the bit you said you don't know President
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. How would you get that deal if you
Speaker 4: don't even know the guy?
Speaker 6: You're not a dentist or an engineer. But I suspect
Speaker 6: that you'd take their advice on their subjective expertise. But
Speaker 6: last night, when you were asked about climate scientists, you
Speaker 6: said you accepted climate change was happening, but you couldn't
Speaker 6: bring yourself to say that you trusted climate scientists.
Speaker 5: How do you plan to bring in more trades and
Speaker 5: jobs when you refuse to back policies and incentives like
Speaker 5: free tay.
Speaker 7: You haven't visited any potential nuclear science including the one
Speaker 7: here at Ladell just an hour away. You recently said
Speaker 7: that town is dead, which caused quite an upset. They're
Speaker 7: also concerned about earthquakes. It's not a very good look
Speaker 7: a nuclear plant built somewhere where there are dozens of
Speaker 7: earthquakes and just the last year alone. When are you
Speaker 7: going to visit them in person to allay their concerns?
Speaker 1: Honestly, why do they underestimate you earthquakes a nuclear plant.
Speaker 1: That's the difference. It is impossible, based off the questions
Speaker 1: that are asked for the opposition to be able to
Speaker 1: get on the front foot. Now, the reality is you
Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily engage with the question that you ask.
Speaker 1: You the answer that you want to give, but of
Speaker 1: course they have no interest in hearing the answer because
Speaker 1: they want to focus on the question. The question. Of course,
Speaker 1: that is the gotcha again. I don't mind tough questions,
Speaker 1: but if they are not equally being applied here, then
Speaker 1: obviously we know what is going on now. Elections. They
Speaker 1: are fought in what we can all see on the
Speaker 1: nightly news. They can be heard on some of the
Speaker 1: commentary and the radio. You get a bit of a
Speaker 1: skewy view when it comes to social media, because remember,
Speaker 1: the algorithm is feeding you more or less depending on
Speaker 1: the things that you already look at. But this weekend
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for you to have conversations with family.
Speaker 1: And I'll have more to say about that in a moment,
Speaker 1: and more to say about just how brain dead some
Speaker 1: of this stuff is on social media. But as I say,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that we showed you last night, how
Speaker 1: in fact can we bring back There's a little collection
Speaker 1: we put together last night of Peter Dutton's best moments
Speaker 1: in the debate. This was impressive stuff.
Speaker 8: Let's roll we approached the third of May, many Australians
Speaker 8: will be asking themselves are you better off today? Than
Speaker 8: you were three years ago. People have seen food prices
Speaker 8: go up by thirty percent. Their mortgages have gone up
Speaker 8: on twelve occasions over the last two years. The government's
Speaker 8: brought in a million people, all of whom want homes,
Speaker 8: and all of whom are competing against young Australians for
Speaker 8: that rental property or to purchase a home. That's a
Speaker 8: million people, which is seventy percent higher than any two
Speaker 8: year period in our country's history. And to your government
Speaker 8: has modeled negative gearing changes NCGT changes. The Treasurer has
Speaker 8: done that.
Speaker 1: That's not right. Well, it is a publish service.
Speaker 8: This Prime Minister has a problem with the truth. And
Speaker 8: it's not just in relation to this debate. There are
Speaker 8: many aspects that you could pick up during the course
Speaker 8: of this campaign. With the Prime Minister constantly telling people
Speaker 8: they're much better off now just defies the reality in
Speaker 8: their own lives. There are thirty thousand small businesses which
Speaker 8: have gone bankrupt over the course of the last three years,
Speaker 8: a record number in our country's history. Over the last
Speaker 8: twelve months, households have been in a recession for seven
Speaker 8: consecutive quarters almost two There's been a threefold increase in
Speaker 8: the expansion of the public service compared to the regular years.
Speaker 8: We have the highest per capita rate of public servants
Speaker 8: in the world.
Speaker 1: And the Prime Minister was stepping on rakes. The hardest
Speaker 1: of which, which hit in right between the eyes, was
Speaker 1: a failure to deliver on his own promise of two
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars off your power bills and an inability
Speaker 1: to answer this question four times.
Speaker 8: You and Chris Bowen keep saying that renewables are the
Speaker 8: cheapest form of power.
Speaker 1: When will we see our power bills come down?
Speaker 2: They are Well, what we know is that renewables are
Speaker 2: the cheapest form of power, not because of what we say,
Speaker 2: but because of what the Australian Energy market operator says.
Speaker 1: So when do the bills come down?
Speaker 2: And what the market is is delivering? See, Peter has
Speaker 2: to have government, state, taxpayer funded. We stick with your
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded, taxpayer funded proposals.
Speaker 1: What we're dealing with here.
Speaker 2: During the former government, twenty four out of twenty eight
Speaker 2: coal fire power stations announce their closure. We need to
Speaker 2: get supply and certain in energy security. We can't wait
Speaker 2: till the twenty forties a nuclear Just.
Speaker 8: Stick with your plan, mister albinezy.
Speaker 1: When will the bills come.
Speaker 2: Down under our plan? We know that renewables are the
Speaker 2: cheapest form of power, and that is why we are
Speaker 2: doing that, rolling it out, including through gas. Peter Ray's gas.
Speaker 2: Gas is now thirteen dollars. It was thirty dollars and
Speaker 2: when we came, when we kind of thirteen is cheaper
Speaker 2: than thirty.
Speaker 8: When do we see the bills come down?
Speaker 2: Well, what we need to do is to roll out renewables,
Speaker 2: make sure there's energy security, make sure it's backed up
Speaker 2: by batteries, by high joe, and by gas. That is
Speaker 2: what all of the private sector is backing and investing in.
Speaker 1: Take your pick four times. When will they come down?
Speaker 1: He can't promise when, which means they're not going to. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: if you could find a way even to lie about
Speaker 1: it like you did last time, he would. Then he
Speaker 1: turns around and says, oh, pet, he dudn't. His plan's
Speaker 1: going to cost billions of dollars taxpayer money. The only
Speaker 1: reason your power bill has allegedly gone down by twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars a month is because the taxpayer is paying
Speaker 1: the power companies to reduce your bill by twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars a month. That's what happened last year, That's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen this year. All of that, of course,
Speaker 1: then feeds into a fake number about the inflation figures,
Speaker 1: which figures into the fake calculations being made about whether
Speaker 1: the economy is turned the corner or not. But how
Speaker 1: did Channel seven think it when last.
Speaker 9: Night Anthony Albanizi and Peter Dutton have shifted their folks
Speaker 9: to a tax on tax after failing to deliver a
Speaker 9: blow during the second election debate.
Speaker 1: Now we all remember a good old fashioned scare campaign
Speaker 1: from the twenty and sixteen election. That was the one
Speaker 1: where the political genius always playing four D chess, the
Speaker 1: ghost Malcolm Turble had the eight week campaign, the double disillusion,
Speaker 1: lowering the bar for the number of people who could
Speaker 1: make it into the Senate Crossbach. That's the one where
Speaker 1: he took the majority. The Tony Abbott hadn't turned it
Speaker 1: into just winning and he was willing to call in
Speaker 1: the police because of lies like this.
Speaker 10: Now the Liberals have set up a Medicare privatization task force.
Speaker 10: Everybody knows you don't set up a Medicare privatization task
Speaker 10: force unless you aim to privatize Medicare.
Speaker 1: Of course it was a lie. It is still a lie,
Speaker 1: but as it was in twenty sixteen, it was a
Speaker 1: lie that they shark down Australia's throats.
Speaker 11: Put your hand on your heart and look Australians in
Speaker 11: the eye and say that the Coalition has a policy
Speaker 11: to privatize Medicare.
Speaker 12: I can say to the people of Australia that this
Speaker 12: election and their vote on July the second, will determine
Speaker 12: the future of Medicare.
Speaker 11: Is the Coalition privatizing As.
Speaker 12: You've asked me to talk to the Australian people here,
Speaker 12: and I just want to take another thirty seconds and
Speaker 12: answer the first question. On July the second, Australians will
Speaker 12: have a choice. It'll be about the future of Medicare.
Speaker 12: You can vote Labor and make sure that we keep
Speaker 12: the price of our healthcare system.
Speaker 1: Now, his reward for that lie is that now he
Speaker 1: gets to have a weekly comment piece about Australian politics
Speaker 1: on the very same show that he was telling those lies.
Speaker 1: But as we know, here we go again medi Scare,
Speaker 1: Yet again Medicare. Only one side's going to save it,
Speaker 1: the other one's going to flush it down. The too.
Speaker 1: This is despite the fact that the last time the
Speaker 1: Liberals were in power, of all doctors' visits were bulk billed,
Speaker 1: no extra payments. Under the current government that is now
Speaker 1: seventy seven percent, So on their watch it has gone
Speaker 1: backwards on no no oh, But apparently it's the Liberal
Speaker 1: party that is going to see a reduction in the
Speaker 1: amount you can bulk bill.
Speaker 2: We never ever, ever want an American style health system
Speaker 2: in this country. Is the guy who said, along with
Speaker 2: the Coalition last time they came in a government, there'll
Speaker 2: be no cuts to health and no cuts to education.
Speaker 2: They read fifty billion dollars out of health. They tried
Speaker 2: to stop bulk billing altogether. People should be under no
Speaker 2: illusion there will be cut to health, there will be
Speaker 2: cut to education, that will be cut to the ABC
Speaker 2: if the Coalition are elected now.
Speaker 1: This is despite the fact that how many times can
Speaker 1: Peter Dunton say that's not going to happen.
Speaker 8: A coalition government will again deliver quality healthcare. Nine billion
Speaker 8: dollars will be invested into Medicare.
Speaker 1: But they just keep doing it anyway, and no one
Speaker 1: at these press conferences says, okay. Prime Minister Peter Dudden
Speaker 1: has said how many times that it isn't going to happen,
Speaker 1: but you keep saying it is going to happen when
Speaker 1: an actual fact, on your watch, the total number of
Speaker 1: people who were able to bolt bill their trip to
Speaker 1: the doctor has gone down, So Medicare has gone backwards
Speaker 1: on your watch. But you're saying vote for us because
Speaker 1: you think under the next guy who's promising to spend
Speaker 1: more than you in this area, that it's going to
Speaker 1: go backwards. But no, no, they just repeat, repeat, because
Speaker 1: they're shameless and they think that they have a fig leaf.
Speaker 1: What was the one, Bob, If you have a Medicare
Speaker 1: Privatization task Force, then you're definitely privatizing Medicare. And they
Speaker 1: just say that that fig leaf was like some sort
Speaker 1: of a fur coat. And then they fight and fight,
Speaker 1: and they just say it and say it and say
Speaker 1: it and say it and say it and say they
Speaker 1: repeat a lot a trillion times, no matter how provably
Speaker 1: false it is. Yet they're never called out for it,
Speaker 1: never ever called the lie trackers that they had. No,
Speaker 1: that's not in this that's never counted, never, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that it is demonstrably not true. Well, let's now
Speaker 1: play them by their own game. Okay, let's use albo
Speaker 1: logic on albo. Let's talk about housing. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: people who buy an investment property, not fifteen, but the
Speaker 1: extreme majority of people who have one. Maybe some who
Speaker 1: have two. But the idea that we're talking about everyone
Speaker 1: who's in the property market's got fifteen and they're just
Speaker 1: milking money off the future general, it's not true, you
Speaker 1: know it. If you're lucky enough to have been able
Speaker 1: to work hard enough to be able to have an
Speaker 1: investment property, and without investment properties, there's no rent and
Speaker 1: as we know, the rental market pretty damn tight right now.
Speaker 1: But let's get to the back and forth of part
Speaker 1: of the debate last year now last night, Now the
Speaker 1: debate was the moment between Peter Dutton and Anthony Abernezi
Speaker 1: about the Labor Party trying to put together a working
Speaker 1: group to get some information from Treasury about getting rid
Speaker 1: of negative gearing, the same policy they had in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Put simply, would you model getting rid of negative gearing
Speaker 1: if you weren't planning to get rid of negative gearing?
Speaker 1: Here it was in the debate last night. Was it modeled?
Speaker 2: It certainly wasn't commissioned by us to.
Speaker 8: Do so, It was modeled by the government. It was
Speaker 8: publicly it's publicly available that this Prime Minister has a
Speaker 8: problem with the truth.
Speaker 1: So was Prime Minister bsing yes, because here is the
Speaker 1: true measure of Australia, not speaking years ago, but speaking
Speaker 1: last year about whether or not he had asked the
Speaker 1: people who worked for him, the same people who put
Speaker 1: together the budget, to have a look at getting rid
Speaker 1: of negative gearing.
Speaker 13: It is not unusual at all for governments or for
Speaker 13: treasurers to get advice on contentious issues which are in
Speaker 13: the public domain, including in the Parliament. It is not
Speaker 13: unusual for treasurers to do that. But we have made
Speaker 13: it very clear through the course of this week that
Speaker 13: we have a broad and ambitious housing policy already and
Speaker 13: those changes aren't part of it.
Speaker 1: So the Prime Minister lied last night on two fronts,
Speaker 1: One that this ever happened and two that they never
Speaker 1: asked for it. No, they did ask for it. That
Speaker 1: is what was admitted by Jim Chalmers last year. Remember
Speaker 1: the logic of the medi Scare campaign that exists to
Speaker 1: this day. You wouldn't have a working group of privatizing
Speaker 1: medicare unless you were planning to privatize medicare, then why
Speaker 1: would you get Treasury to have a look at getting
Speaker 1: rid of negative gearing if you weren't planning to get
Speaker 1: rid of negative gearing. But again, the Prime Minister assuming
Speaker 1: that you don't remember and the reporters are too lazy
Speaker 1: to even go on a basic Google search for what
Speaker 1: had happened last year, which they are. This is what
Speaker 1: he was telling them today, in between questions of why
Speaker 1: do they underrest to meet you?
Speaker 11: Do you till out meeting the greens demands on negative gearing?
Speaker 2: I rule out negotiating with the Greens. That's even further
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: I real out.
Speaker 2: I have responded to that lots of times, asked again, Well,
Speaker 2: you can ask you again. You get the same answer.
Speaker 2: We have our housing policy that we are taking forward
Speaker 2: the Greens. I am not negotiating with the Greens. We
Speaker 2: make it very clear.
Speaker 1: Because this bloke is such a political genius. Is he
Speaker 1: trying to avoid we will not cut negative gearing because
Speaker 1: he's trying to avoid their will be no carbon tax
Speaker 1: under a government lead? Why would you not just say,
Speaker 1: with absolute clarity, we will not get rid of negative gearing.
Speaker 1: But of course that wouldn't count because Peter Dutner said
Speaker 1: we are not cutting medicare, but they still claim that
Speaker 1: he is anyway. So if there's no rules and the
Speaker 1: gloves are off, then guess what. The gloves are off
Speaker 1: and there are no rules. So today Jim Chalmers again
Speaker 1: last year admitting not only did they look at getting
Speaker 1: rid of negative gearing, but he asked them to have
Speaker 1: a look at getting rigative negative gearing. Today he's trying
Speaker 1: to pretend that there's a difference between what is the
Speaker 1: semantic game he plays.
Speaker 13: There is a difference between commissioning modeling, which is what
Speaker 13: the PAM was asked about last night, and getting advice
Speaker 13: from the Treasury getting views from the Treasury on issues
Speaker 13: that are in the public domain.
Speaker 1: So apparently there's some semantic difference. No Hawk said you're
Speaker 1: going to privatize medicare because you've got a working group
Speaker 1: that's looking into privatizing medicare. Well, they started getting rid
Speaker 1: of negative gearing, so why not libs they're planning to
Speaker 1: get rid of negative gearing. The Prime Minister, when asked directly,
Speaker 1: will not say we are not getting rid of negative gearing.
Speaker 1: But even if he did, it doesn't matter because you've
Speaker 1: said we are not going to cut Medicare and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It doesn't even count that there's no evidence
Speaker 1: of it whatsoever. It doesn't count that you're actually planning
Speaker 1: to spend more money than they are currently promising to do.
Speaker 1: So this is how topsy turvy and ludicrous this election
Speaker 1: has been. So Okay, let's play labor at its own game.
Speaker 1: They of course pretended that one of the reasons they
Speaker 1: were able to say that Peter Dunton was going to
Speaker 1: do something about Medicare was they were able to Frankenstein
Speaker 1: together a grab from more than ten years ago. Well,
Speaker 1: we just so happened to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: tape of the current Treasurer of Australia and his sometimes
Speaker 1: views when it comes to negative gearing.
Speaker 13: Any housing policy that doesn't deal with negative gearing and
Speaker 13: capital gainst tax is a shame. Housing affordability which doesn't
Speaker 13: make important and considered changes to capital gains and negative
Speaker 13: gearing has a hole in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: If you want to.
Speaker 13: Deal with housing affordability, you need to start with negative
Speaker 13: gearing and capital gains.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the Bob Hoork thing? Play the Bob Hawk thing? Right,
Speaker 1: Remember what was what was the Bob Hawk thing? What
Speaker 1: did Bob Hawk say? Which is the basis of medical
Speaker 1: scare for twenty sixteen, nineteen, twenty two and twenty five.
Speaker 10: Now the Liberals have set up a Medicare privatization task force.
Speaker 10: Everybody knows you don't set up a Medicare privatization task
Speaker 10: force unless you aim to privatize Medicare.
Speaker 1: Well, Jim Chalmers says, what about.
Speaker 13: Any housing policy that doesn't deal with negative gearing and
Speaker 13: capital gainst tax is a shame. Housing affordability which doesn't
Speaker 13: make important and considered changes to capital g a and
Speaker 13: negative gearing has a hole in the middle of it.
Speaker 13: If you want to deal with housing affordability, you need
Speaker 13: to start with negative gearing and capital gains.
Speaker 1: Play them of their own game, and you've got the
Speaker 1: tape to prove it. Now, wait watch and see where
Speaker 1: that goes in the next few days. Oh and of
Speaker 1: course they'll say it was all an evil idea which
Speaker 1: came out of sky News the prime time. Don't know,
Speaker 1: It's just the same standard they use for something that
Speaker 1: is demonstrably not true. Everyone knows it's not true, but
Speaker 1: for some reason, they never get asked about it, But
Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers says that about negative gearing. But now and
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister won't rule it out. What's going on
Speaker 1: here this weekend. You have the opportunity to spend time
Speaker 1: with friends and family, and you're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the election. So try and remember as many of these
Speaker 1: as possible, about the difference between a bloke who promised
Speaker 1: to make their country better, but in actual fact it
Speaker 1: was fifty four thousand people who lost their job in March.
Speaker 1: Better numbers for the jobs today. One point six median
Speaker 1: homes are in mortgage stress, two out of three cannot
Speaker 1: afford their rent. Three point seven million household will run
Speaker 1: out of food, Twenty nine and a half thousand businesses
Speaker 1: have gone bust, highest supermarket prices ever, highest taxes on alcohol,
Speaker 1: smokers and petrol, and budget deficits for the next forty years,
Speaker 1: not ten plus one point two t four trillion dollars
Speaker 1: in debt that is on its way. Those numbers, particularly
Speaker 1: about homelessness, are worth talking about. Those numbers, particularly about
Speaker 1: people have food insecurity, are worth talking about. You'll remember
Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks ago on the show, we
Speaker 1: had a blowke here by the name of Morgan Cox.
Speaker 1: Morgan was on the Q and A program a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago where he was talking about his experience and
Speaker 1: about how he is one of those that is the
Speaker 1: true victims of this government and the way they are
Speaker 1: being ignored when it comes to cost of living. So
Speaker 1: this weekend, when you talk about politics, talk about Morgan.
Speaker 14: One more rank increase and my family, my one year
Speaker 14: old baby worth facing homelessness and we've got nowhere to go.
Speaker 14: My family's already been forced out of Sydney for the
Speaker 14: same reasons. I want to know, is the government going
Speaker 14: to cut immigration to match housing availability or are we
Speaker 14: just going to keep going until every regular working Australian
Speaker 14: is homeless.
Speaker 1: That question shook the nation, so then we spoke to
Speaker 1: Morgan on this program.
Speaker 14: I had to sometimes I have to ring a charity
Speaker 14: place and ask them for some help of the electricity
Speaker 14: and they are able to give me some credit. If
Speaker 14: it keeps going like even another year like this, just
Speaker 14: one more year, I think millions of people.
Speaker 5: Will just be destroyed.
Speaker 14: They'll be just finished, They'll be living in camp well.
Speaker 1: Morgan is back in the news today because he's decided
Speaker 1: to have a protest. The place he's decided to do
Speaker 1: it is on the Central Coast, and he has done
Speaker 1: so out the front of the Prime Minister's investment property.
Speaker 1: He's decided to do so because he wants to keep
Speaker 1: the issue of people like himself in this election campaign.
Speaker 1: Morgan Joy now from the Central Coast. Morgan, why did
Speaker 1: you decide it's time to bring even more attention to
Speaker 1: your plight and to do it where you're doing it?
Speaker 14: Well, of course I'd prefer to be our home with
Speaker 14: my family over Easter, but I felt it's really important
Speaker 14: that the elections on and the fact of the matter
Speaker 14: is the little people we're just not being heard and
Speaker 14: this is a desperate situation and it's getting worse rapidly.
Speaker 14: So I just I really really need to get this
Speaker 14: out there, you know, for nothing else then, so that
Speaker 14: I can tell my kids at least I tried, you know,
Speaker 14: at least I tried to get them to bring them
Speaker 14: up in a country where they can afford to live. Yeah,
Speaker 14: it's a.
Speaker 1: No, I guess, yeah, no, I apologize. Sorry, the car
Speaker 1: distracted just both then I understand obviously, and look, we
Speaker 1: understand your passion, but you've decided to do it at
Speaker 1: the front not of the primin house, but house the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister owns. What do you say to those that
Speaker 1: are going to give you flack for where you've chosen
Speaker 1: to do this, that you're not a curability that you're
Speaker 1: doing it on the central Coast.
Speaker 14: Well, first of all, there has to be, you know,
Speaker 14: a situation where I can do it, And there is
Speaker 14: a situation here where I can do it. There's the
Speaker 14: space that I can do it in. And I'm not
Speaker 14: breaking any laws. I'm not really hurting anybody or upsetting anybody.
Speaker 14: I've spoken to all the neighbors and they're all quite
Speaker 14: nice and lovely people and they are fine with it.
Speaker 14: So this was just the opportunity that I had, and
Speaker 14: like I said, I just I want to do something,
Speaker 14: you know, for the future of the kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Morgan, when we talked about your own personal circumstances
Speaker 1: when we spoke last time, So let's let's again look
Speaker 1: at those raw numbers. One point six million people in
Speaker 1: mortgage shifts, meaning they can't afford their repayments, two out
Speaker 1: of three can't afford rent because it keeps going up.
Speaker 1: Three million people this close to homelessness, as we've discussed before,
Speaker 1: that's people like yourself and three point seven million people
Speaker 1: going to run out of food, probably have by now,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to have a great easter. Yet
Speaker 1: we're halfway through the election and I was talking about
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Really are they? That's right?
Speaker 14: That's why I'm doing this, That's why I'm here. I
Speaker 14: just I didn't know what else to do to bring
Speaker 14: attention to this. But it seems like it should be
Speaker 14: the number one issue at this election for sure, and
Speaker 14: I don't understand why everyone isn't talking about it all
Speaker 14: the time. I keep seeing a lot of stuff on
Speaker 14: climate change, and I just don't understand how that they
Speaker 14: can think, for instance, that we should be concerned about
Speaker 14: the weather in a hundred years when next week we
Speaker 14: don't know if we're going to be living in a tent.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now you've appeared with us, you've appeared on the ABC.
Speaker 1: What response have you had? You know, you're not really
Speaker 1: massive on social media, but but how what responsive you
Speaker 1: had for being willing to be as public as you
Speaker 1: are in all of this.
Speaker 14: I think most people have been overwhelmingly supportive. I've had
Speaker 14: a few people come out and say I'm racist or
Speaker 14: I'm anti immigrant or whatever. By the way, my partner
Speaker 14: is an immigrant, and I'm not against immigration at all.
Speaker 14: I just want the government to manage the country. I mean,
Speaker 14: what else is their job? Yeah, that's all just as
Speaker 14: many houses. We need this many people.
Speaker 1: Correct, and if you add an extra one or two
Speaker 1: million people to it, then all the people that are
Speaker 1: currently just barely holding on, well, they compete with everyone
Speaker 1: else who might be able to jump in front of
Speaker 1: them in terms of their capacity to be able to
Speaker 1: pay that rent or to bid for that house, in
Speaker 1: terms of the election, and in both sides here, what
Speaker 1: would you say to both the Prime Minister and Peter
Speaker 1: Dunton about how they need to focus and have either
Speaker 1: of the leaders shown you anything resembling what should be
Speaker 1: the focus for people like your good self.
Speaker 14: Honestly, I'm just really sad and disappointed at everything that
Speaker 14: I'm hearing. I feel like they just need to come
Speaker 14: back down to earth and talk to some of the
Speaker 14: regular people, the working people. There is literally millions of
Speaker 14: us in poverty and struggling, and we don't even have
Speaker 14: a chance to talk to them. We're just we shut out.
Speaker 14: That's why I've gone to this desperate sort of measure.
Speaker 14: I didn't know what else to do. And like I said,
Speaker 14: do you know, it's not just us, and now it's
Speaker 14: also into the future. So our kids, our families, where
Speaker 14: are they going to live if we just don't have
Speaker 14: enough homes? This is a desperate situation for millions of people.
Speaker 1: Now. Earlier today, you had a banner that was on
Speaker 1: the caravan. I think the police told you to take
Speaker 1: it down. That's their business, But that was because you
Speaker 1: were trying to promote a website, because you want people
Speaker 1: to have the ability to tell their stories. What does
Speaker 1: it cost of living casualties dot com dot au tell
Speaker 1: us about what you want out of this website and
Speaker 1: is anyone else helping you along the way. It's not
Speaker 1: a front for a political party or anything like that.
Speaker 14: I'm just asking no, no, I have no affiliation with
Speaker 14: any political party, and frankly, I'm disappointed in all of them.
Speaker 14: I dare say that they asked me to take it
Speaker 14: down because it had Albow's name on it, not because
Speaker 14: of the website. And the website is just a very
Speaker 14: simple website where people can go and they can just
Speaker 14: enter in text their stories and they can select a
Speaker 14: few options if they want it published or not, and
Speaker 14: they can select things that they might like the government.
Speaker 14: I just came up with a few ideas. There might
Speaker 14: be more. People can ask me if they want me
Speaker 14: to add things, but a few ideas that they'd like
Speaker 14: the government to maybe address the issues, and just so
Speaker 14: that their voice can be heard. My intention is to
Speaker 14: take that to politicians and if there's enough of us,
Speaker 14: you know, perhaps they'll listen.
Speaker 1: How long's the kara? Then, therefore, is this how you
Speaker 1: spend the next four days?
Speaker 14: Unfortunately, it might be. It depends. It depends on the situation.
Speaker 14: And you know what, I'd really love to hear from
Speaker 14: some politicians. I'd love to hear from Albow or Dutton
Speaker 14: or really anyone that will listen, because the whole point
Speaker 14: of being here is just that we can be heard.
Speaker 14: And you know, I'd love to take him on the
Speaker 14: tour of the homeless camps that are around my place,
Speaker 14: and I'd love to introduce them to some really lovely
Speaker 14: people that are just suffering horribly, and I'd like to
Speaker 14: just bring him back down to earth.
Speaker 1: Well, there's plenty of people that are running, plenty of
Speaker 1: people that are defending and plenty of people who are
Speaker 1: after our conversations now know who you are. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you want to help Morgan out, one thing you
Speaker 1: can do is give him some work, all right. He
Speaker 1: works in hi Fi. We've spoken about this before. His
Speaker 1: website is Smart High Fi dot com DOTU. It's audio
Speaker 1: visual installations. His telephone number this is me doing the plug.
Speaker 1: By the way, he didn't ask for this is one
Speaker 1: three hundred and three two nine one oh four. The
Speaker 1: best way to keep his family fed and a roof
Speaker 1: over their head is for them him to have work.
Speaker 1: He'll do it anywhere from Newcastle down to Wollongong, but
Speaker 1: he'll probably go even further. Morgan, all the best mate. Again.
Speaker 1: That website when it comes to cost of living casualties,
Speaker 1: what is it again?
Speaker 14: It's just cost of living casualties dot com dot au
Speaker 14: and yeah just a text just answer some texts, tell
Speaker 14: us his story and I'll try to pass it on
Speaker 14: to some politicians and hopefully we can get some change.
Speaker 1: Good on your Morgan, all the best mate, Happy Easter
Speaker 1: and all the best of your family. Thanks Mane.
Speaker 14: You as well, Thank you Morgan.
Speaker 1: Cox there on the Central Coast now again he's been
Speaker 1: pushed to a point where he thinks that's the way
Speaker 1: to make his point. And you've got to imagine a
Speaker 1: person who is pushed that far to do that and
Speaker 1: the inconvenience that comes from it, and you've heard his
Speaker 1: reasonings for it. That's his website. That's how you can
Speaker 1: help him when it comes to work. And I'd love
Speaker 1: to know what you think, Paul. It's gonews dot com
Speaker 1: dot you should cost a living and people like Morgan
Speaker 1: be the focus of this election or the distractions of
Speaker 1: They're gonna can't many care. They're going to get rid
Speaker 1: of negative gearing. We'll get to both next here on
Speaker 1: Paul Murray Life. Thanks for watching. Sunday Nights we're hardcore
Speaker 1: politics and Thursday before a long weekend, we are hardcore politics. Baby.
Speaker 1: You give it to you straight for the next few days,
Speaker 1: army with the arguments. For the next few days. With
Speaker 1: the family, with the friends. Be polite, everyone loves their family.
Speaker 1: No blow ups. But you know, if it gets to
Speaker 1: the subject, we'll give you a little bit of information.
Speaker 1: Christy McSweeney is of course from the pr Council. She
Speaker 1: joins us now from beautiful Melbourne and the reason we're
Speaker 1: in HD just always looking amazing none other than Darren Barnett.
Speaker 1: A lovely to see you as well.
Speaker 15: I thought that was heading Paul, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All right, now there's a million polls, but I want
Speaker 1: to bounce around here, so my apologies to the team
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I'll be honest about where the election
Speaker 1: odds right, and they are in terms of the betting markets,
Speaker 1: and it is the Labour Party at a dollar twenty
Speaker 1: two to win with sports Bet, the Coalition at four
Speaker 1: dollars thirty, so an obvious favorite. Now lad Brokes Labor
Speaker 1: Party dollar twenty two, tab dollar twenty five, the Libs
Speaker 1: blowing out to well plus four dollars in all of those,
Speaker 1: so what was previously Libs then became fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: Now book you say, is pretty strong in the way
Speaker 1: of Labor. If you're a hardcore supporter, I think the
Speaker 1: momentum may change. Look bit responsibly butt four dollars a
Speaker 1: reasonable price if you think you're running towards towards maybe
Speaker 1: a different direction. There's also a whole collection of poles,
Speaker 1: including our mates at Redbridge. And remember we talked to
Speaker 1: Costa Marris from Redbridge and Michael Kroger on Sunday nights
Speaker 1: and say to the nation, they are having a look
Speaker 1: at a whole collection of swing seats and they are
Speaker 1: tracking whether they are heading the Liberal way or whether
Speaker 1: they are heading Labour's way. Now, don't worry, you don't
Speaker 1: have to squint, but I'll do the work for you. Basically,
Speaker 1: fifty one forty nine in lots of different directions, in
Speaker 1: all of the seats. Now I'm talking about Robertson on
Speaker 1: the central coast of New South Wales, Reed suburban Sydney, Shortland,
Speaker 1: in the Hunter Bruce suburban Melbourne, Goldstein, the Teal seat
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, Bullwinkled, the new seat in Western Australia, Hawk,
Speaker 1: which is the contest between Labor and the Greens.
Speaker 15: Hawks where I grew up Sunbury.
Speaker 1: There we go Sunday mcew and Casey Bentelon, Gilmour, Hughes
Speaker 1: Patterson and Lincoln Yari. Again, fifty one forty nine, still
Speaker 1: nice and tight. Yes, you can see in places like
Speaker 1: Robertson it was liberal by some margin. Now it's just
Speaker 1: in favor of Labor. A lot of things that you
Speaker 1: see in that way. So let's talk about these particular polls,
Speaker 1: whether you trust them, whether you don't, Christy, does it
Speaker 1: show a tight race or does it show the momentum
Speaker 1: that the bookies seem to believe is there in the election.
Speaker 11: Look, I think it is very very tight. And the
Speaker 11: reason why I think it's tight, and I've said it before,
Speaker 11: is that the same people Redbridge who and give us
Speaker 11: that poll are the same people who identify and they're
Speaker 11: great mates of mine in Melbourne and great friends.
Speaker 13: Of the show.
Speaker 11: They're the same people who identify how far the soft
Speaker 11: vote has blown out. And that soft vote is still
Speaker 11: sitting at about twenty five percent, and one in three
Speaker 11: voters voted for independent at the last election, and some
Speaker 11: of those are going to switch back. So if we
Speaker 11: combine the thirty percent of people who I don't vote
Speaker 11: for a major party and might be assessing the major
Speaker 11: parties and the twenty five percent of people who haven't
Speaker 11: made up their mind, it is still very very close.
Speaker 11: And I still do think that small margin there reflects
Speaker 11: the general electorate, despite the Labor Party gaining momentum in
Speaker 11: the campaign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the question, isn't it, Darren. It is
Speaker 1: always about momentum. What is very different I think about
Speaker 1: this election than others is when you basically have this
Speaker 1: set down week, where are they still going to appear? Yes,
Speaker 1: are we going to try to read into who got
Speaker 1: the biggest cheer at the Sydney East. But basically from
Speaker 1: now till the other side of Anzac Day, most people
Speaker 1: are going to unplug and it means they had to.
Speaker 1: They have the chats with the families and we'll see
Speaker 1: whether that produces an even greater momentum for where the
Speaker 1: book you say it's going, or it starts to push
Speaker 1: us back to where we were just a month ago.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that pot?
Speaker 15: Well, if you look at the seat by seat betting,
Speaker 15: and I've only looked at sports bet but a lot
Speaker 15: of these seats now have become much more Even so,
Speaker 15: the seats New South Wales have been along robertson Gilmore,
Speaker 15: early on Macquarie and where where we're in it, Patterson
Speaker 15: is still in it. A lot of them now are
Speaker 15: slightly favoring labor and they were favoring liberal as little
Speaker 15: as two or three weeks ago. The same goes in
Speaker 15: Victoria for Chisholm. The same goes for a couple of
Speaker 15: the Teal seats, So the Cape Cheney seat in WA,
Speaker 15: the Manique Ryan's seat, the Jry Daniel's seat. When momentum
Speaker 15: is not running with you, it's just one of those
Speaker 15: quirks of elections. And I'd say to sit to you
Speaker 15: before we came on air the twenty ten election, Gillard
Speaker 15: Abbott that when momentum started to swing towards the Coalition,
Speaker 15: it just seemed that all of those tight races the
Speaker 15: Liberals just got over the line.
Speaker 1: Was all before two weeks. I mean, for those that
Speaker 1: are trying.
Speaker 15: To are up fifty five forty five at the end
Speaker 15: of week one of that campaign, great point. Then all
Speaker 15: the leaks started and then momentum really just swung the
Speaker 15: other way, and that thirty six hour marathon to the line,
Speaker 15: all of those things just momentum sat with Abbott. So
Speaker 15: my point is that and all those seats just ended
Speaker 15: up falling by a fairly small margin. Unless Dutton can
Speaker 15: take the momentum, I think he is in a world
Speaker 15: of trouble.
Speaker 1: Well, this is it because again, you know, margin of
Speaker 1: era means you know, on a good day you might
Speaker 1: push to the high sixties, maybe over seventy. On a
Speaker 1: bad day you can actually go backwards and actually further
Speaker 1: to that point. I actually asked sports bet, not sponsors.
Speaker 1: I just asked the people that are there. They say,
Speaker 1: in terms of the current market that are about changing seats,
Speaker 1: that Labour would only lose four seats. Those would be
Speaker 1: Ben Long, Lions, Gilmore and Aston. However they would win
Speaker 1: one back from the Greens. The Coalition would win one
Speaker 1: off the Greens in Brucebane. They'd take back what essentially
Speaker 1: were already their seats, the seats of Monash Claire Moore,
Speaker 1: which are all people who were elected Nats or Libs
Speaker 1: and then became independents. Monique Ryan. Look, it's a dollar
Speaker 1: seventy nine to a dollar ninety three, but they're suggesting
Speaker 1: that she would lose to Amelia Hayman and maybe Kauper.
Speaker 1: That would be a coalition loss going to an independent.
Speaker 1: But the market there dollar eighty to a dollar eighty seven.
Speaker 1: So see what happens, all right, So it is, it
Speaker 1: is fascinating. You're so right. The start of that, the
Speaker 1: start of that Gillard campaign five and in twenty nine
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 15: Were insurmountable after week one, and granted there were leaks
Speaker 15: and their other things. Do you think it always happened,
Speaker 15: but we're pretty cruisy after a week and we certainly
Speaker 15: were just watching the track pols fall off.
Speaker 1: Well, thank good miss Kevin Rudd was the Foreign minister
Speaker 1: coming out of that, because nothing bad happened as a
Speaker 1: result of that honor. But it was Tony Abbot who
Speaker 1: pulled down the first female prime minister. Okay, now let's
Speaker 1: get too the debate and your thoughts on that last night.
Speaker 1: I think Albo didn't have a good night. I know that.
Speaker 1: You know, the media was always going to say it's
Speaker 1: a draw because if it's a draw, it's a win,
Speaker 1: because that's not a change of momentum. And here's the deal.
Speaker 1: No debate has ever produced a knockout moment except for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who was dead in the middle of the debate. Right.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you can always say there's this bit
Speaker 1: for us and there's this bit for them. But I
Speaker 1: honestly see, and of course, you know, I want a
Speaker 1: change in government. But Christie I saw, and we showed
Speaker 1: an awful lot of pretty successful hits the following day. Yes,
Speaker 1: doesn't had to deal with the climate change stuff. I
Speaker 1: thought he dealt with it pretty quickly. Will he be
Speaker 1: forgiven by the Left for it. No, they've got their grab,
Speaker 1: they run forever. But this negative gearing thing, I said,
Speaker 1: if the Libs can have the medi scares shoved down
Speaker 1: their throat since twenty sixteen, you can shove negative gearing
Speaker 1: changes right back down Labour's throat.
Speaker 11: I thought, I agree with you, Paul. I thought Peter
Speaker 11: Dutton did extraordinarily well last night. The only thing I
Speaker 11: worry about is that it's a bit too little, too late,
Speaker 11: going into the East to break and the holidays and
Speaker 11: pre poll already being upon us. But I thought he
Speaker 11: outdid the Prime Minister. I saw the Prime Minister look evasive.
Speaker 11: I saw the Prime Minister look shaky. In debates such
Speaker 11: as this, at this time of the cycle, you want
Speaker 11: to have an agenda to put the front runner off
Speaker 11: their game. And we have just spoken about how Labor
Speaker 11: seems to have gained the momentum. It did take them
Speaker 11: eighteen months to gain momentum, but they seem to have
Speaker 11: it with them now and I think Peter dun't achieve
Speaker 11: that objective. I saw the Prime Minister not being able
Speaker 11: to answer questions and not being able to quickly on
Speaker 11: his feet come up with a form of words around
Speaker 11: the difference between commissioning modeling or what is modeling versus
Speaker 11: advice and he couldn't tack that deftly. And when you're
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister and you can't tackle that deftly, that
Speaker 11: means your confidence is a little bit shaken around that issue.
Speaker 11: And it does mean that Peter Dunton had got to
Speaker 11: him if he couldn't wipe that back. Don't for his part,
Speaker 11: he had some slip ups as well, I'd say, particularly
Speaker 11: in this Indonesian issue. However, voters are not looking at
Speaker 11: Australia's relationship with Indonesia. They don't know what Jants Defense
Speaker 11: magazine isis into a national security but exactly exactly. So
Speaker 11: if it was, it's very difficult and complex for people
Speaker 11: to understand. So I don't think that's going to get
Speaker 11: the traction that a lot of the commentary wants it
Speaker 11: to get.
Speaker 1: I think that bumps in and out in a couple
Speaker 1: of days. Am I right here? Well?
Speaker 15: I think you're right, but it's you don't want to
Speaker 15: cause own goals on your suits. One hundred percent national
Speaker 15: security is a legal strong suit and you don't want that.
Speaker 15: You don't want Bridget McKenzie saying that there's world leaders
Speaker 15: saying Dutton doesn't want to BPM and it's not quite right.
Speaker 15: The form of words matters and you need to get
Speaker 15: you just need to get the language right. And I
Speaker 15: think there's been three or four language errors which you
Speaker 15: shouldn't make in a campaign. I thought, look, Dunton needed
Speaker 15: to hit it out of the park and maybe he won,
Speaker 15: maybe it was lionball, but not enough to change the momentum.
Speaker 15: And as I said before, if the momentum doesn't shift,
Speaker 15: then I think it's going to be a really difficult
Speaker 15: time because people are going to switch off for a week.
Speaker 1: Well let's see if somebody is smart somewhere on the
Speaker 1: internet to make the most of what Jim Chalmers has
Speaker 1: said about negative gearing in the past.
Speaker 13: Any housing policy that doesn't deal with negative gearing and
Speaker 13: capital gains tax as a sham. Housing affordability which doesn't
Speaker 13: make important and considered changes to capital gains and negative
Speaker 13: gear has a hole in the middle of it. If
Speaker 13: you want to deal with housing affordability, you need to
Speaker 13: start with negative gearing and capital gains.
Speaker 1: All of that is enough for the medi Scare campaign.
Speaker 1: Why is it not when it comes to a negative
Speaker 1: gearing one because you knows the Prime Minister didn't say
Speaker 1: today we will not cut negative gearing quick breakback with more.
Speaker 1: We are going to be in Cowgooley, not this Sunday,
Speaker 1: next Sunday, and I want to fill the room, which
Speaker 1: is why I'm doing as many plugs as possible tonight
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Speaker 1: com dot Au. Ourtown. It's goynews dot com dot Au.
Speaker 1: But plenty of people come up and tell me, including
Speaker 1: there was a couple who told me I think we
Speaker 1: were in Tweed on Monday, that they went on a
Speaker 1: big international holiday. But they still continue to watch the
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Speaker 1: of it. Thank you. There are people who watch us
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Speaker 1: Let's fill the room and fill the room fast. Christi
Speaker 1: McSweeney is here with Darren Barnett. We get away when
Speaker 1: we're in a Loser of the Week in a moment,
Speaker 1: but can we talk about election posters because we know
Speaker 1: there's a story every day pulled someone pulled mind down. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody pulled yours down, and then somebody else drew on yours,
Speaker 1: and then we're all supposed to think that this means
Speaker 1: something about whether they're going to win or not win,
Speaker 1: or there's more posters. Can I say this in the
Speaker 1: behalf of all Australians. Get rid of all of them
Speaker 1: because they aren't about anything. We're not voting for your face.
Speaker 1: Once we get to the ballot paper your name, yes,
Speaker 1: is there? Okay, that's all you have to remember if
Speaker 1: you're trying to go for one person or the other. Now, Darren,
Speaker 1: you've been on the front line of these things where
Speaker 1: you've seen seats that were longtime seats for the Liberal
Speaker 1: Party turned to the people like Karen Phelps in places
Speaker 1: like Wentworth. Now I think ten years ago, yeah, probably
Speaker 1: the posters was a thing right of your show of force.
Speaker 1: I just think people find them grossly irritating right now.
Speaker 1: They don't find them half as intimidating the second time
Speaker 1: around with the Teals as they did the first. Am
Speaker 1: I wrong?
Speaker 15: I think that I think the Teals get more bang
Speaker 15: for their buck out of digital advertising, whether it's when
Speaker 15: you turn on your phone and the next scroll down
Speaker 15: gives you an allegra a spender or a row Knox
Speaker 15: ad where I live and wentworth. Some of the advertising
Speaker 15: on the side of the old the bus shelters, some
Speaker 15: of the digital advertising at Bondi Junction, some of that
Speaker 15: stuff's quite useful. And some of the.
Speaker 1: Petrol station that's smart. Whoever in the limbs is with that,
Speaker 1: that's because everyone sees that. Literally, but poster someone someone's house, it's.
Speaker 15: Pretty irritating, I'll give you that. But I do get
Speaker 15: a laugh every time I see someone with a tooth
Speaker 15: blacked out. But I look at it in a different
Speaker 15: way to most people, I think. But where I live
Speaker 15: is absolutely chock a block and they all win, and
Speaker 15: then oh this is on a power pole, this one's
Speaker 15: onto this way. They all break the rules, they all
Speaker 15: suit themselves and it's kind of it's a zero some game.
Speaker 1: And don't show the camera, but just show Aaron's face.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing that I like on a poster. Absolutely, yeah, correct,
Speaker 1: all right, I thought that'd be the case. Christy, your
Speaker 1: thoughts about these posters, I mean, again, you've been to candidate.
Speaker 1: You've seen how these things go. I know where we've
Speaker 1: always done, but it ain't eighteen twenty and I just
Speaker 1: cut on over one thinks, oh, if we have seventeen
Speaker 1: more than the other one, we're going to win. It
Speaker 1: just annoys me, and it reminds me don't go near
Speaker 1: your house at Halloween because you're a kook.
Speaker 11: Well, yes, you're entirely correct, Paul. I have had my
Speaker 11: face plastered on posts all around the in and out
Speaker 11: of suburbs of Hearth and so I've ticked that off
Speaker 11: by list, and I'm very pleased that there's yet another
Speaker 11: election where that memory continues to fight and I become
Speaker 11: less prominent so in terms of candidacy. But I will say,
Speaker 11: having been there and done it and having spoken to
Speaker 11: people and what people respond to. It's really difficult in
Speaker 11: the political and at the moment because it's become so
Speaker 11: binary and so leader focused. It's incredibly hard for local
Speaker 11: candidates to get local news out and to get their
Speaker 11: own personal brand out because everybody gravitates towards the leader now,
Speaker 11: So it does work. Signage is a huge advantage. The
Speaker 11: more of it you have, the more repetition people have
Speaker 11: of your name, not necessarily your face, but your name.
Speaker 11: I don't think it's a good idea for people to
Speaker 11: signal I vote liberal or I vote labor on the
Speaker 11: front of my house, but signage certainly, as Darren mentioned,
Speaker 11: council bins, bus stops, billboards, that's all valuable.
Speaker 1: That's good or I got thirty seconds, so give me
Speaker 1: a bumper sticker version. We'rere a loser of the week
Speaker 1: Darren Bunnett. Rory McElroy, Oh how good? And yeah it
Speaker 1: was a rip.
Speaker 15: I can't even remember his name who finished runner up,
Speaker 15: so he's the loser of the week.
Speaker 1: Christy Win are.
Speaker 11: Winner of the week. For me, I'm going to say
Speaker 11: I think I'm going to make it political. I'm going
Speaker 11: to say Benson Soulo where I live in Sint Kilda,
Speaker 11: he does have three signs up within three streets, so
Speaker 11: I've identified the other three voters in my entire suburb
Speaker 11: that vote Coalition. So thank you for putting those signs up.
Speaker 11: You're doing well.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Happy eater to everyone. Go Yankees and
Speaker 1: we'll see you again. We're his Sunday night, Monday night
Speaker 1: when I go anywhere, so we'll be back at our
Speaker 1: usual time on Sunday. Have a great weekend.