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Speaker 1: Well, for some of the Grand Final has been one

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Speaker 1: and done, but for us at the Fox Footy Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Grand Final Week starts now because we froth the trade

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Speaker 1: period and we'll be all over it on Foxfooty dot

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Speaker 1: com dot au. Ben mordewef with you alongside the utensil,

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Speaker 1: Will Faulkner, Maxie Lawdon and a man who loves this

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Speaker 1: time of the year, the pick thirty seven back in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and one Super Draft, and the raining

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Speaker 1: Fox Footy NFL Fantasy champion Lee Montagne.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Joseph Bennie.

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Speaker 3: I'm not as busy as you, gentlemen, and not as excited,

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Speaker 3: but nice to be here.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big week.

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Speaker 4: Not come of you.

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Speaker 2: It is a big time here play happening.

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Speaker 1: Nice to have Joey along straight out of the trading

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Speaker 1: day invoice as well. But let's have a look at

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast firstly, Joey. They are going to be absolutely

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Speaker 1: integral to this year's AFL trade period. Potential ins of

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Speaker 1: Christian Petrarca, Jamara Juglahagen and we know about their star

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen pretty soon as well. Plus six

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Speaker 2: Up for grabs. And you wrote about this on Fox

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Speaker 5: I did, yeah, spoke about it on Sunday night on

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Speaker 5: Coast for fifteen years now they're taking them that long,

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Speaker 5: longer coming there anymore, as well as John Noble Jane

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Speaker 5: Real with you before. They're a destination club. David Harwig's

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Speaker 5: It's kind of funny that there's trade talk about him

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Speaker 5: Christian Petrarch is the big one this year. Is it

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Speaker 3: It is slightly risky to turn over this many, but

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Speaker 2: And I think they are doing it the right way.

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Speaker 3: Like the guys they are letting go, and we're going

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Speaker 2: With seven kids under twenty two.

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Speaker 3: They are in a great position and it's all set

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Speaker 3: Well, they've already created playing finals and now they can

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Speaker 1: Well, the Crows were knocking on the door potentially. We

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Speaker 3: Keep your power to dry, keep some money in the bank,

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Speaker 2: I think they should still be looking down that path.

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Speaker 6: Make sure the stens in the world to go now

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Speaker 6: They're still talking through whatever that trade looks like. I

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Speaker 3: And there is a risk that if you wait and

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Speaker 2: City had the.

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Speaker 1: Chance to get a big fish, potentially with Charlie Kurno Maxi,

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Speaker 6: So Jiserrohl seems like a pretty good player. Maybe they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's played ten games in four seasons there.

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Speaker 4: So look a solid addition.

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Speaker 6: He's requested the trade to them, so that's nice players

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Speaker 6: seasons Roddy Grundy Ruckman, so that's not helping you. Tall defense,

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Speaker 6: And we saw the absolute upside of this team in

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Speaker 4: We know how good they can be. But to get

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Speaker 6: And if they have another inactive trade period, it was

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Speaker 3: It's obvious if they're not improving their list dramatically, they're

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Speaker 3: Curll the two first rounders of what's appealing you're taking

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Speaker 3: and then if you're getting a Will Hayward type, yes,

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Speaker 3: I think that'll help them and Cartler in the situation now.

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Speaker 2: I think they need to refresh their list.

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Speaker 3: Harry McKay and his own could still kick sixty goals

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Speaker 3: next year as a full forward.

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Speaker 2: Could he actually benefit from.

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Speaker 3: Probably we've seen him in the past actually Colin Medlas, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I think they've got to cut their losses, get

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Speaker 1: And you're at Marvel today, Will and heard all the

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Speaker 1: clubs come through. And Andrew Mackey essentially conceded. But it's

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Speaker 1: going to be hard for Geelong to acquire both Rowan Marshall,

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Speaker 4: Faces be willing to shop him.

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Speaker 1: Someone did suggest to me during the year to keep

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Speaker 2: It hasn't been a lot of word around it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we know how desperate he was to get back

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Speaker 3: They've just got to build what they've got. They've got

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Speaker 5: they're going to do this trade period. Are you surprised

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Speaker 3: Maybe they've already learnt that they did that with Griffin

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Speaker 3: I think maybe put some more faith in Charlie Combent

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Speaker 4: They made last top five pick.

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Speaker 1: Essentially, isn't he it'd be good? Well, it could very

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Speaker 1: much work out like that. Joey, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: the desk as well. Coming up after this Australia's Favorite Segment,

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Speaker 1: It's time for Australia's Favorite Segment, Fair or Far, starting

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Speaker 1: with you Fork Will. The starting price Freezach for Zach

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Speaker 1: Butters this year is three first round picks far fast.

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Speaker 5: I think that's fair for this year. Ben particularly Port

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Speaker 5: have been very very adamant he's not going to anywhere

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Speaker 5: this season, which means you have to pay overs even

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Speaker 5: I think that it gets you to the table. Three

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Speaker 5: first round picks. I don't know if this year they're

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Speaker 5: or twenty eighteen or twenty twenty one, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: I think it gets you to the table. I don't

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Speaker 6: It'll have to be three because if Jeremy Cameron was

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Speaker 6: the most valuable asset that you can possibly think of,

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with our esteemed colin Colleigue Lee Montagne

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Speaker 1: just then, who suggested on trading day that Zach Butters

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Speaker 1: Butter's this year?

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Speaker 6: What are you if you have Zach Butter's and your

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Speaker 2: You're better. But so you're expecting a poor dip next year.

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Speaker 6: I'm not expecting a port rise more than the point

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Speaker 4: If they are good, we can use that in headlines

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Speaker 1: Can Maxi Bailey Smith has increasingly become a big issue

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Speaker 1: for the Cats throughout the year, both on and off

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Speaker 2: Very fair.

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Speaker 6: It's bits and pieces emerging after the Grand Final and

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Speaker 2: You just see how it happens all after the Grand fum.

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Speaker 6: Funny that the posts that he made about the costumes,

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Speaker 6: basically fine. Maxim probably should have ticked off the Caro one,

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Speaker 4: So this is the risk that Geelong is willing to take.

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Speaker 6: They see a market inefficiency in players who may have

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Speaker 6: come to us, We're going to deal with you very

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Speaker 6: kid gloves, very softly, and you can be yourselves even

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Speaker 6: with their training method. You know, you use rock up

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Speaker 6: become the dad really ruling.

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Speaker 4: On them, which makes it hard with Bailey Smith.

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Speaker 4: It just divides people.

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Speaker 6: It widens the gap between people who truly are problematic

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Speaker 6: we can say that Bally Smith made a mistake and

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Speaker 6: But you have to keep in mind he's still twenty four.

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Speaker 6: As a former twenty four year old, I remember, twenty

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Speaker 6: four year olds can be pretty stupid, So these things

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from a geelong perspective, it is fascinating. I think

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Speaker 1: I was after the Eastern Monday game Chris Scott said

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Speaker 1: it Geelong had embraced all of Bailey Smith and what

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Speaker 5: I think it has. I was thinking in my head

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Speaker 5: probably still call it that positive. They recruited Bailey Smith

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Speaker 5: they would admit that. Andrew Mackie almost alluded to that

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Speaker 6: It's as odd that Bailey Smith has turned into this person.

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Speaker 2: is quite remarkable how it has flipped around Bailey STIs.

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Speaker 6: It speaks to the way that players can be nurtured.

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Speaker 6: The culture inside the AFL system can be difficult to deal.

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Speaker 1: With while you're rolling there, fork Jackson Jack Steele will

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Speaker 1: this drap period fair or fast.

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Speaker 5: I hate to be of fencey the ben, so I'm

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Speaker 2: Be very careful how they've worded this publicly.

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Speaker 5: That hard, which is why I'm very careful to say

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Speaker 5: he will only progres he moves clubs. I think there

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Speaker 6: just feels like a bit of a player out of time.

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Speaker 6: They're still used for that type of hard nut midfielder.

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Speaker 4: But it's also just not twenty twenty one anymore.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, speaking of players out of time, there,

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Speaker 1: MAXI Wayde Dirkson isn't a real player fast So is

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Speaker 1: there a bit of McKay sort of Ben McKay Harry McKay.

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Speaker 2: Are they the same person?

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Speaker 6: I've never seen them in the same I've never seen

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Speaker 6: way Dirks in any room, right, so I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 6: that this is a media conspiracy. We've created a fictional

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Speaker 6: player right for trade rumor purposes. Have either of you

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Speaker 6: ever seen way Dirks and play football?

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Speaker 2: I think I might have seen him. Don't lie to me, No,

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Speaker 2: I think I have seen him playing the VFL once.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well you're watching.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I was mistaken.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you were mistaken.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Nathan Martius.

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Speaker 5: Maybe yes, yes, he's a strange brother.

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Speaker 6: Of course, if you were to manufacturer player for the

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Speaker 6: purposes of trade rumors linking him to GWS and Melbourne too,

457
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Speaker 6: only a few people are paying attention to them.

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Speaker 4: No one knows they exist.

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Speaker 6: This is this Madden AI generated in twenty forty seven,

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Speaker 6: fake name business.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 5: No, I was watching the VFL stream, but it felt

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Speaker 5: like he flickered a little bit on the stream. Maybe

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Speaker 5: it was a holygram of that must be so. Yeah, Look,

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Speaker 5: Wade Jerks and Nathan Mordius, two very good players who

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Speaker 5: just haven't had a lot of lucky gbs. We know

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Speaker 5: how good their defensive stocks are. Want to have a

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Speaker 5: crack at Melbourne and they've sort of step back a

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Speaker 5: little bit. Sure will sure, Yeah, that's what they all say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fork Graham, Gubby Allen front of the media on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So he didn't get fined fair or fast.

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Speaker 5: Fair in the highest regard. Again, look, listening to him

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Speaker 5: speak today was a unique experience, and he don't often

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Speaker 5: say that. This time you're in trade period. You feel

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Speaker 5: like you've seen a lot, you've done a lot.

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Speaker 2: Not of the same language, a lot of the same phrases.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same stuff, same different day.

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Speaker 4: What was the tone that he sort of brought to

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Speaker 4: the table flippant, flippant.

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Speaker 5: I had to be there, didn't choose to be there.

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Speaker 6: I never thought of Gubby Allen as a Marshall on

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Speaker 6: Lynch type, but maybe today.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of There was a lot of

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Speaker 5: rice smiling around the room when he answered, there were

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Speaker 5: a few people that are asking questions and wanted to

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Speaker 5: get the most out of him. Obviously saink he was

487
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Speaker 5: a very big player at this year's trade period, the

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Speaker 5: biggest perhaps alongside Gold Coast, and he didn't give an inch.

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Speaker 5: It would have been three or four word answers at

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Speaker 5: the longest for the first few questions, and I think

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Speaker 5: everyone in the room started to just sort of pick

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Speaker 5: up what he was putting down. And then Charla n

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Speaker 5: Ian's braden Ingram was very he wanted to get to

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Speaker 5: the crux of it, gave him a couple of good

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Speaker 5: questions and that was when he sort of it turned.

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Speaker 6: Do they maintain that this Jackson Vannie signing has happened

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Speaker 6: with his dad having no knowledge of it?

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Speaker 5: That was what Gubby did say yes, and he said

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Speaker 5: ross lyin then eventually came over the top and made

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Speaker 5: the call himself. That was the message that was sending.

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Speaker 6: Genuinely, if a club is signing players with the list

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Speaker 6: manager having no knowledge of it, I'm very concerned for

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Speaker 6: their future. That would be even more insane than the

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Speaker 6: dad signing his son.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make a lot of sense, that's right, MAXI

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Speaker 1: last one to you, Clayton Oliva is now on the

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Speaker 1: verge of becoming home Bush Subways number one ambassador fair

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Speaker 1: or FA.

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Speaker 4: Lens give me the tricky ones man clearly.

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Speaker 6: So we saw photos of him on Friday, this pre

511
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Speaker 6: planned holiday to Sydney.

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Speaker 4: But I can meet with the giants.

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Speaker 2: That works quite well on a boat.

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Speaker 4: He's on a boat and et cetera.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember the rest of the lyrics from that

516
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Speaker 6: song Lonely, but they had it like a subway box,

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Speaker 6: which I assumed was cookies. But then we're talking about

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Speaker 6: this in the office. You think it would be more

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Speaker 6: a healthy option. Maybe this speaks to me as a person.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I see you think it made me some

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Speaker 5: corporate deal they have with Subway where they bulk order

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Speaker 5: subway and there's just one little box. You can just

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Speaker 5: get a fabit if you've tucked under his feet. I

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Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 6: I've been to the subway at Homebush before before. I

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Speaker 6: think a K pop concert. Funnily enough, there's a McDonald's there.

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Speaker 4: Actually had a gloriou Genes. Yes, I've been.

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Speaker 6: It is a subway, I can I can confirm, although

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Speaker 6: if you were getting the sandwiches there and then taking

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Speaker 6: them to the water, they might get a bit soggy,

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Speaker 6: so there's probably another one.

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Speaker 2: You can go through. It was an interesting is how

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Speaker 2: the camera just happened to sort of be there's.

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Speaker 5: A high resolution photos, very high res.

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Speaker 2: Four K, very high res.

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