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Speaker 2: If you know the brutal reality of preliminary finals better

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Speaker 1: And what's next For texts, Taylor Walker has his exit

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Speaker 1: meeting with the Crows without resolution that his storied career

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Speaker 3: We've talked about his step into it, embrace.

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Speaker 1: All of it, hit in the room and reat it's

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Speaker 3: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape.

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Speaker 4: The man on they played.

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Speaker 1: The best footy I've ever seen at the start of

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Speaker 3: The couple older said, of course they do. It is

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Speaker 5: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now

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Speaker 3: Wrong, you know, And I need to get and the boards.

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Speaker 5: Actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through

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Speaker 1: Old we knew that they would be and already gaz

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Speaker 1: The preliminary finals are sold out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hot to see it in town.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to get a bigger crowd Friday night Hawthorn

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Speaker 3: It'll be a close run thing.

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Speaker 1: It'll be determined by the mcc walk ups and everyone.

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Speaker 1: I've heard it out. I'm going to both. If you've

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Speaker 3: Go to both.

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Speaker 2: Strong c representation on Friday Night, I'm thinking, and then

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's going to be. We're getting ninety past.

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Speaker 2: Thousand, which is going to be unbelievable. So bring it on, Jerede,

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Speaker 2: we can't wait.

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Speaker 6: Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the privileges I've been on radio is

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Speaker 1: you live the tension with people while they're in these

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Speaker 3: The tension is crippling, is watching.

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Speaker 2: People tenay and this great hard won confidence when you've

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Speaker 3: So the conferences gets tested inver so much for Geelong

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Speaker 1: Al Right, here's all we've got lined up for you tonight,

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Speaker 1: our players, Patrick Dangerfield.

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Speaker 1: So Jeremy will tell us how he's been going on

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Speaker 1: the training track. Ray Chamberlain, how do you survive a

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Speaker 3: Dream to be there on the day that matters?

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Speaker 1: A bit of realwe overreaction from the furnace and then

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Speaker 3: The moment the midweek tackle.

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Speaker 1: So much news around Lauren Wood, Josh Barnes and Glen MacFarlane.

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Speaker 3: That Tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Adam Simpson and John Longmire who know these dates ever

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Speaker 1: Shall we get into it top of the agenda, We

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Speaker 1: now than ever. For Collingwood, the question that has sat

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Speaker 7: I think when push comes to shove and you can

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Speaker 7: How's he played as the sub before? First and foremost,

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Speaker 7: if he hasn't been in that position where you've had

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Speaker 7: I think that would be part of the consideration.

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Speaker 8: So you don't take into a count of the last

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Speaker 7: That would be assuming that he's put a couple of

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Speaker 3: And that's the question that's been grappled with.

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Speaker 1: He played as the sub in round twenty one versus

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Speaker 1: round fifteen against and killed us. So we'll show you

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Speaker 1: What are you think.

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Speaker 3: He's on the outside for mine?

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Speaker 2: He's on the outside looking in, so assuming and we'll

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Speaker 2: is not to say I'm ruining him out of a

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Speaker 2: Grand Final if in fact they get through this weekend. Jared,

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Speaker 2: anything can happen in this preliminary final, but one game

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Speaker 2: in that period of time for me is not enough,

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Speaker 2: and the only other spot would be the sub. But

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Speaker 2: I'd be going with the fit and tried and true

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Speaker 1: I still think if you'd defer to what Craig McCrae

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Speaker 1: the high performance. But Bobby had asked him, just give

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Speaker 1: me a glimmer of hope. I think this is what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there if they get through, which is

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Speaker 2: a big if they've got to beat the Brisbane lines,

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Speaker 2: and anything could happen in that game, and we know

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Speaker 2: pliminary finals alike, and if they do pick up an

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Speaker 3: But right now, go with what you've got. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about text Walker in a moment. We don't

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Speaker 3: Listen, we support him.

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Speaker 2: I know it's been interrupted, but on the big stage

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Speaker 1: And then the invidious position has been the twenty second

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Will Parker is probably twenty two and Ran

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Speaker 2: Steele's probably twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And that's the way it played out.

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Speaker 2: Steele was the sub in that first final and Parker's

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Speaker 2: become a small defender and when you look at the opposition,

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of matchups for them. They're very very well

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Speaker 3: I've said this for a long time, this Collingwood team.

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Speaker 2: I think they're still a little bit susceptible when the

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Speaker 2: I'm wucking around with wil Parker.

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Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned text there. So he had his

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Speaker 1: on Triple M today.

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Speaker 3: You're going to get that old rig up for another year.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't know, real I haven't. I'm still

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Speaker 6: Burgo and he'll make that decision.

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Speaker 3: How are you going to make the decision?

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Speaker 4: Have you had to think about who you're going to

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Speaker 3: How a you're going to make that decision?

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Speaker 6: It's a good question. Hopefully time might allow me to

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Speaker 1: Thirty five years old, three hundred and one games. He's

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Speaker 3: At along the way.

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Speaker 1: Is this the end of the road.

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Speaker 2: Well, if he does want to go on, the great

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Speaker 2: news for Taylor Walker is I think he should retire.

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Speaker 2: I say that because I thought Jack Gunson should retire.

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Speaker 2: They both kicked twenty nine goals last year, and now

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Speaker 2: I thought Jack Gunson was finished. He's kicked seventy goals

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Speaker 2: And look, when you make these decisions, you go, I

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Speaker 2: could see Text playing Round one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can.

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Speaker 2: Can I see Text playing Round twenty three? Can I

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Speaker 2: see Text playing in the first Cup Throat final that

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Speaker 2: they play next year? And it's a long long season

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Speaker 2: when you're at this age of your and stage of

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Speaker 1: The forward craft's your portfolio. Thorpe has become the guy.

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Speaker 1: And now there's the question as to whether Texas presence

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Speaker 3: Who has plateau.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't come on in the manner that the Crows

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether he again continued and it's been hotly debated,

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big debate as well.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you throw all that in the melting pot.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a magnificent career that if it finishes up,

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Speaker 1: Adam Schirlaw's got a fresh one year deal to go

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Speaker 1: into his fifteenth season. He had a hopelessly interrupted run

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Speaker 1: with all the soft tissues this year, played four senior games,

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Speaker 3: Call at the Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: I suspect this is relatively low risk. Keep him for

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Speaker 3: A magnificent bonus if he's there.

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Speaker 2: It's September next year, If the Dogs are there and

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Speaker 2: when his body's sound enough. When he plays, he's of

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you. I think it's to worth

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Speaker 1: It's probably low dollars at this stage, I would think

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Speaker 3: Keep him there as depth.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, the choice for the furnace was pretty easy

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Speaker 1: at the moment when you've got to bust up quite

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Speaker 1: footing has become even more than that with what is

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Speaker 1: think Zach Merrits and Essendon could put.

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Speaker 2: Is what Sam Mitchell's doing fair reasonable?

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Speaker 3: I angered you. I think the world's changing. You know,

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Speaker 5: A place in which I'd be, you know, pretty disappointed.

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Speaker 5: But the reality is now the gloves are off and

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Speaker 5: a word's fair and love more and that's the path

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Speaker 7: To my job is pretty clear. Make Hawthorne win. It's

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Speaker 4: If there are players other clubs that want to club

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Speaker 4: to do before that actually occurs is you've got to

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Speaker 3: It has to happen.

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Speaker 8: What's happened those relationships internally can't be repaired. I know

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Speaker 3: I couldn't.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't forgive a player that's been so public about

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Speaker 8: a captain of the football club and a contracted player, we.

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Speaker 4: All go shock horror, but we all of us at

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Speaker 4: to guys some other clubs who might want to come

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Speaker 7: I think it's now turned into a situation where it's

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Speaker 7: going to be I think nigh on impossible for him

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Speaker 7: read the quote somewhere that you can you can walk

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Speaker 3: That is a hot furnace.

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Speaker 1: Real or overreaction out of that, and Whisper has been

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Speaker 1: so good it's nigh on. Impossible to see Zach back

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Speaker 3: It's another thide. You can't put the toothpaste back in

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Speaker 3: the tube. General, we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Start trotting out these quotes and analogies. There ain't any

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Speaker 2: chance he's, in my eyes anyway, he's going back. Not

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Speaker 2: what we've seen transpire in the past. I'd say four days.

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Speaker 2: You've got players now that are going public and expressing

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest one out of everything that's happened.

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Speaker 2: But now you're getting the backgrounding going on, which is

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Speaker 2: I think messy and uns seemly. You know, story is

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Speaker 3: Now that's a planet story, Jared.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make its way into the public domain without

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Speaker 2: someone most maliciously in my mind, wanting to plant that seed.

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Speaker 2: Because you're saying that your captain is disrespecting your females,

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Speaker 2: your female football team.

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Speaker 3: That's when it gets real messy. And you know how

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Speaker 3: it works in this business.

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Speaker 2: The outside's been taken and there are and as I said,

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Speaker 2: the backgrounding of journalists and others and players trotted out

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Speaker 2: to trot the company line.

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Speaker 3: It's just ugly.

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Speaker 2: So he won't in my mind, he won't be going

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Speaker 2: back to the Essenon Football Club, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: it guarantees that he's going to end up at Hawthorne.

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Speaker 3: That's the way I wrote.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, the character of sassination is the worst part

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Speaker 1: numerous folds in this incident. It's clearly hurts merit and

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Speaker 1: totally understandable why it would be hurt by It's that

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Speaker 1: is no way to do business, either the internal side

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Speaker 1: think there's no need to tear down a good man

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Speaker 1: because he's at the crossroads about where he wants to

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Speaker 2: It's unseemly for you, Zach, won't you welcome on the

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Speaker 2: brown load table.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's not true.

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Speaker 3: I hope that's an overreaction.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to be a bit of divorce

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Speaker 1: and the personalities might get to the point where it's untenable.

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Speaker 1: I totally I sort of love hearing just how ruthless

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is with these things, but you go, this

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Speaker 1: my nickof overseas for a little bit while it all

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Speaker 1: takes care of things.

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Speaker 3: But I would hope there's not an edict saying don't come.

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Speaker 3: That would be nuice.

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Speaker 1: He's got a best and faris yeah, to navigate one

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Speaker 1: way or another. Essendon should plot a revenge Rabe.

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Speaker 3: Immediately, if not before. That's my take on it, Jared.

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Speaker 2: If they haven't already, they should the damn straight they should.

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Speaker 3: It's done right up million dollar contract to identify the

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Speaker 2: You work out who it is and then you get

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Speaker 2: in contact with that agent and go bang eyp. The

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Speaker 2: worst thing it can happen is that it causes a

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Speaker 2: little bit of disruption in the hen house or.

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Speaker 3: You might even turn the head of them without knowing.

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Speaker 3: So that's where I'd go. That's me. You probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: My favorite part of a wash up to the Silvannia

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Speaker 1: episode was the Bulldogs going all right, we'll we'll offer

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Speaker 2: It should be done you'd take Christian Petrarca over Merit

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Speaker 2: on Merrit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: I think this is real. So I've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: this a lot. They're both about to turn thirty. Petrarca

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Speaker 1: is an Ormsmith medallist four all Australians, two best in

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Speaker 1: Ferriss and finished third in a brown Low, and Merit

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Speaker 1: is six best in Fairest and three all Australians, and

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Speaker 1: Petrarca's best has had him as a top five player

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Speaker 1: in the competition. Merrit has been a top ten top twenty.

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Speaker 1: But Petrarca's best footy has been better than Merit's best footy.

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Speaker 1: So separate to the needs of an individual club, put

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Speaker 1: the two up against the wall. I'll take Petrarca for

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Speaker 1: these years of their career.

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Speaker 3: I think pre this period.

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Speaker 2: Yes, where the game's going, you might go with a

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Speaker 2: better kicker.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So you have to what are your most

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Speaker 1: value I suspect Petrarca's kicking into a more competent forward

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Speaker 1: along the way, there's been a knock on dangerfields kicking,

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Speaker 1: but it's never been the number one aspect of his game.

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Speaker 3: The rest of what he does.

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Speaker 1: I think Petrarca has those qualities.

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Speaker 3: That he's watching.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's but everyone will make it, but same terms,

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Speaker 1: same tenure.

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Speaker 3: I'll take good question.

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Speaker 1: Jai Simpkin might be the tipping point. So the background

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Speaker 1: to this story, as Jake Nile Today has reported that

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Speaker 1: Simpkin has felt discontents over the limited minutes he's had

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Speaker 1: he has expressed it corcefully at his exit meeting. It's

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Speaker 1: not so far as requesting a trade. But the kicker

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Speaker 1: here is he's contracted till twenty twenty nine. He's got

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Speaker 1: four years to run on the long term deal.

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Speaker 2: Enough enough on this one. So Joe as the captain

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Speaker 2: and saying, listen, this is what I want to do,

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Speaker 2: this is what I want to do. But there's an

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Speaker 2: element of selflessness about this when you take on the

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Speaker 2: it with your eyes wide open, particularly when you sign

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Speaker 3: So where's this culture come from?

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Speaker 2: Now that we go, okay, let's sign long term. I

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Speaker 2: The club's all right here, but know that this is

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Speaker 2: you until twenty twenty nine. Then don't turn around saying

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Speaker 2: I'm not playing enough time in the middle. On one out, No.

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Speaker 3: I'm not playing enough time in the middle.

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Speaker 2: What do I need to do to get back in

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Speaker 2: or where else can I help the football club? I

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Speaker 2: sign the long term contract. I'm the captain of the

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Speaker 2: footy club. I'm going to be until twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Where can I be our best value? What's the manager's

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Speaker 2: role in this? This is where the players, I think

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Speaker 3: Where's the manager sitting in all this down? Long term

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Speaker 3: means long term.

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Speaker 1: They don't look at it like that.

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Speaker 3: We should.

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Speaker 1: It looks at the moment we'll do We'll get you

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Speaker 1: to the long term contract and if things go right,

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Speaker 1: we'll bundle you out.

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Speaker 3: We'll blow it up.

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Speaker 2: And Brad Scott said that here on Wednesday night, and

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Speaker 2: maybe they're going to have to learn a real painful

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Speaker 2: lesson both manager and player.

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Speaker 3: Guess what you ain't going anywhere. There's a reckoning coming here?

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Speaker 1: Is it can make the case less and less against

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Speaker 1: trading without consent.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is going on.

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Speaker 1: You can leave essentially without consent of your club during Well,

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Speaker 1: it's time to level up the playing field on that.

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Speaker 1: Once you get to x amount of dollars and the

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Speaker 1: average contract clearly crushes that threshold, now it's time to

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Speaker 1: seriously look at trading.

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Speaker 2: Without I haven't been a great fan of that, but

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Speaker 2: if they're going to continue to do this, then we've

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Speaker 2: got to open our eyes and ears to it.

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Speaker 1: Last one on the tazzy front, here's Bucks.

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Speaker 7: Last night on couch, I had a risk sacrificing an

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Speaker 7: opportunity to coach Melbourne to keep an opportunity to coach

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Speaker 7: Tasmania because the timelines just didn't match up. And Melbourne

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Speaker 7: rightfully made the decision on a coach that absolutely was

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Speaker 7: all in and wanted to do the job, and that

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Speaker 7: was Stephen King. So they made the very much the

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Speaker 7: right call. I was more attracted to the Tasmanium job

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Speaker 3: Job, So Tasmania is a bit of option for Bucks anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this was always real, right from the

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Speaker 1: very first day when it was floated and he was interested.

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Speaker 1: He had his head turned by Brendan Gale. The idea

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Speaker 1: of the ground zero build, bringing young men together and

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Speaker 1: taking them on the journey, and being the spokesman for

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Speaker 1: a team under state that absolutely suits Bucks's demeanor, and

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Speaker 1: I suspect all of this has helped reinvigorate. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: does want to coach again. I hope that meeting went

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Speaker 1: well today. I don't know what the timeline will end

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Speaker 1: for the Devils. I felt that on day one, and

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Speaker 1: I feel it just as strong amount. Our players are

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Speaker 1: about to join us. Geelong captain Patrick Dangerfields and Collingwood

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Speaker 1: Vetter and Jerry tell me how they're heading for these

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Speaker 1: preliminary finals Friday night and Saturday in the twilight, our

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Speaker 1: players take us on the journey through September