1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Hey, they're Healthy Ish listeners. Thanks for joining us today 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: and welcome if this is your first time tuning in. This, 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: of course, is the daily podcast from Body and Soul. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: I am Felicity Harley. Do you feel that everyone else 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: has a morning routine sorted but you, Well, that's simply 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: not true. Joining us today is Emma Maidman. She's a 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: yoga and meditation teacher, author and co founder of Flow 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: States Studios, and she's going to share her tips for 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: sneaking in some early morning habits for a better day ahead. 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: If you do like what you hear from Emma, tune 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: into Extra Healthy Ish, where she talks about how to 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: find your flow state. You can search for that wherever 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: we get your podcasts. Emma, nice to have you back 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: on the podcast. How are you. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks for having me back. It's been a 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: little while. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and well done. Well back with a new baby 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: and a new book. 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: In many ways, yeah, it's a whole new media coming 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: to you this time around. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well, let's talk about I just wanted to 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: focus on one thing in your book, build a perfect 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: morning routine or a better morning routine, because you know, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: in my eyes, there's no perfect morning routine. It just 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: sometimes happens. It sometimes doesn't talk to us about well, 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: perhaps firstly about the importance of having a good morning routine. 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think we know that the things that 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: we come back to, the routines that we have, create habits, 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: and when we're in those habits, we you know, they 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: become a little bit more healthy habits that we can 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: instill into every day. However, it really depends on what 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: season of life you're in. So I know, for myself, 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: before I was a mum, I had like an hour 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: and a half mourning routine that was super lush and 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: now feels like a lifetime away before I get to that, 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: and now as a mom with you know, two young children, 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: it looks very very different. However, the way that we 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: set ourselves up for the day it actually has like 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: from a scientific point of view, a massive impact on 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: our brain. So one simple thing that we can do, 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: as you know, to to start a more healthier morning 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: routine is to not pick up your phone first thing. 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: And that is because when you wake up in the morning, 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: your brain starts to move into a FATA state, which 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: is like the deeper relaxation kind of semi conscious. There's 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: a lot of creative insight in that brain wave state, 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: or the alpha state, which is kind of like awake 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: but relaxed or a bit more passive. And so what 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: that state, what those brain waves are doing, is essentially 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: opening you up for this amazing window of time where 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: you're more creative and you're more able to access flow state, 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: You're more able to be, you know, in alignment with 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: what you desire to bring through and manifestation and all 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: those beautiful fairy words that we hear. But when you 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: look at your phone, what this does to your brain 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: straight away is it takes it from that beautiful creative, 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: you know, anything's possible state and pops you straight in 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: to essentially like the doing brain waves, the beta state, 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: which means that you know, you're alert and you're just 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: kind of like ready for action. What that means is 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: is that you miss this kind of beautiful moment of 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: manifesting your day, of being creative, of having beautiful ideas 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: pop through. And so, you know, we often think of 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: morning routines as needing to be this big long thing, 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: but a simple morning routine could be do something else 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: other than look at your phone for that first little 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: like half an hour window that you wake up. It 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: might mean that you grab your journal or even just 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: spend a moment in time just being with whatever creative 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: impulse is arising within you. It's such an incredible window 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: to access that. But if the first thing we do 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: is grab our phones and jump into our emails, we 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: miss that window of opportunity. 74 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean, it's hard, isn't it, because you often, 75 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, I often have to check my phone just 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: to see if you know, and if there's anything come 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: up from my kids' school. And I know that's an excuse, 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: but it is really hard to put a barrier up 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: against that phone. First thing, How do you do it? 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, is it just a practice, a habit that 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you're in that you don't touch it in the first 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: half an hour an hour? 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's the awareness piece around it. Like 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can go the full hob of 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: putting the phone in another room on charge and having 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: an alarm clock behind your bed or whatnot, but ultimately, 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I have mine as my time, 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: so I'll just kind of, you know, see what time 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: it is, Okay, Yeah, six o'clock in the morning. I 90 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: can hear the kids who are awake it's time to 91 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: wake up. But then it's having that discipline to just 92 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: go it's six am. Nothing needs me right now, Like 93 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: I can check that in twenty minutes time, half an hour, 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: it's not going to make a huge difference if you 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: find out that school's canceled that day or whatever, that 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: little window of time is not really going to matter. 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: And so it's then going, Okay, that's a discipline to 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: put that down and to move into some other activity 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: or whatever you're doing in the morning, and then come 100 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: back to that very very intentionally. And when you bring 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: awareness to it, that's when you start to make the change, 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: because then you notice, hang on, I actually am in 103 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: this habit of the last thing I do is look 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: at my phone. And the first thing I do is 105 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: look at my phone. What is that doing to my brain? 106 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: How could I actually create more for me to access 107 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: this internal flow state those simple little things. It just 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: starts small. Maybe it's like, Okay, I'm totally addicted to 109 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: this for the first fifteen minutes of my day, I'm 110 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: not looking at my phone, and then I can pick 111 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: it up and then you know, build it up. So 112 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: that you're getting that first little twenty minute half an 113 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: hour window that your phone free, that you're in that 114 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of flow state and you're able to experience that 115 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: before you then intentionally pick it up and go. Now, 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm with intention using this device to check what's coming 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: up for my day. 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: What are some of your other fundamentals when it comes 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: to building a good, solid morning routine. 120 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: For me, one of my non negotiables is having a 121 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: meditation practice, and in an ideal world, it's doing it 122 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: in that first kind of window of the morning when 123 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: the brain is still in those beautiful creative states you're 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: able to meditate and then move out into the doing 125 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: part of the day. So for me, that's the non negotiable. 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: And then now that I have kids, every other part 127 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: of my morning routine is very much integrated around them. 128 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: So I love doing like Hwasha because I am not 129 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: getting much sleep, So I'll grab my gwasher as I'm 130 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: you know, making the kids breakfast, and I'll be doing 131 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: that on my face. Or simple things like I like 132 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: to wake up and drink a warm glass of water 133 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: to get my digestive system moving. All of those little 134 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: things make up a routine of moving from the sleep 135 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: state into the awake state. So having that glass of water, 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: doing my guasher, getting the lymph moving in my body, 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: and then you know, ideally sitting down to do my meditation, 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: and then moving into the day. Obviously, not every day 139 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: looks like that. You might have a kid that suddenly 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: vomited everywhere and you're doing loads of washing at six am. 141 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 2: Like it's it's being fluid within that, but just having 142 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: small little things that you can do consistently that it's 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: those things, those little habits that stack up that actually 144 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: create well being rather than it needing to be. Oh no, 145 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: I missed my whole hour long routine. Now my day 146 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: is ruined. It's going. Okay, some of that didn't go 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: to plan, but I can still you know, for me, 148 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: it's like I can still do the guasher, I can 149 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: still drink the warm water, I can still have that 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: moment of meditation to pause. I can still try not 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: to look at my phone straight away. That stuff's to 152 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: set me up for those healthier habits heading into the 153 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: rest of the day. 154 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point because often we 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: can scroll Instagram and or TikTok and people have these 156 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: amazing morning routines where they meditate for twenty minutes and 157 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: they drink some water, and then they go for a 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: walk and then they listen to a podcast and they 159 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: do this and I'm like, excuse me, that does not 160 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: happen in my world. So just putting a few tiny 161 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: habits and then you can still feel like you've achieved 162 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: something of a you know, semi perfect morning. 163 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: In some ways, it's really about honoring the season of 164 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: life that you're in and going, Okay, that's nice that 165 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: that you know, twenty one year old influencer has the time, 166 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: because that was me, you know, many many years ago. 167 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: That was me with the two hour long morning routine. 168 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Every day in the morning. What are you doing? There's 169 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: definitely reels the way back. I'm like, this is my smoothie, 170 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: this is my the and now it's like I wake 171 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: up with my children as an alarm, you know. So 172 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: it's it's going, well, it's the season of life that 173 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm in, and then what are the things I needed 174 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: to do to support that season through those routines. Because 175 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: if we want to experience this beautiful life and flow, 176 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: it's if you think of it like how water works, 177 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: it needs a container. It needs the structure, and so 178 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: often we think like, oh, just flow with the day, 179 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: and then you lose the structure and everything turns paar shaped. 180 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: And if you're a parent listening to this, you know 181 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: that if your kids missed a little bit of their structure, 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: you get them their breakfast a little bit too late 183 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: or whatever, things turn pair shape. Really quickly assessing what 184 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 2: season of life am I in? What is realistic? Because 185 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: if it's not realistic for you to do ninety minutes 186 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: of yoga at four am, you're not going to do it, 187 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: and then you're going to be setting yourself up for failure, 188 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: and they're feeling worse about yourself and spiraling, and it's like, 189 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: what's the point. So going, Okay, what is realistic? What 190 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: can I actually achieve? And then maybe you start achieving that, 191 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: and then you start adding. 192 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: On like, yeah, great advice, Emma, thank you for coming unhealthy. 193 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: Ish worries, thanks for having me. 194 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: Well there we go, folks. You don't need to necessarily 195 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: do that one hour, rigid routine. You can just take 196 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: a few little moments you're in there for yourself to 197 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: set yourself up for a healthy is day. Emma's new 198 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: book is called Find Your Flow and it is out now. 199 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: If you did enjoy this chat with Emma, jump on 200 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: rate and review it, or of course you can subscribe 201 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: to this podcast. Bodyansoul dot com dot you is the 202 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: place you should go. 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