WEBVTT - Outsiders | 18 May 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:16.400 This is outside, Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.880 show that is to woke madness and TVs on steroids. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:25.320 What the nineteen eighties rocker Bruce Springsteen, known as The Boss, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.880 is to putting on an amazing, riveting show of guitar thrashing, 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.159 vigor and rock and roll magic. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:40.239 The majority of our elected representatis have failed to protect. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.440 The American people from the ebusions of the one. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.760 President our. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.640 Oh dear, Yes, that was poor old Bruce doddering around 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.800 the stage in England, inspiring Donald Trump to put out 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.440 this tweet saying, I see that highly overrated Bruce Springsteen 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.760 go to a foreign country to speak badly about the 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.520 President of the United States. Never liked him, never liked 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.120 his music or his radical left politics. And importantly, he's 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.960 not a talented guy, just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.560 fervently supported crooker Joe Biden. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.880 And according to this clip, it looks like mister Springsteen 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.800 may have more in common with mister Biden than just 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:40.320 a politics. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.680 Yes, the Boss channels the Big Guy, and while we 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.680 wait for Bruce to write a hit song called making 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.080 being Born in the USA Great Again? Or how about 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:57.080 it Trump was born to run. Let's grab the latest 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:04.120 outside his news. Well, there's going to be a little 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.280 bit of we told you so here on Outsiders this morning, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.440 as I don't like to see anybody suffer at the 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.600 head at the hands of the defamation lawyers. But John 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.560 Pursuito is up for some over two million dollars two 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.120 and a half and in two point three I think 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.119 it is million dollars Caroline and Rita four. The more 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.560 redeemed idiocy that the day after MOI Redeeming stood at 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:32.000 that perfectly legitimate protest for women's rights down in Melbourne, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.160 Rita Pursuito came out and now a couple of years 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.600 later he's going bankrupt and out of politics. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.000 Well, yes, we hate to say we told you so, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.519 but he was told repeatedly on this program. I wrote 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.040 columns about it in the Herald Sun the day after 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.640 that you are on the wrong track with this. You 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.320 need to apologize and deal with this issue in an intelligent, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:03:01.600 honest manner instead of trying to be than Dan Andrews 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.880 against your own MP whose only crime was to stand 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.880 up for women's rights. Now we covered the Let Women 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.800 Speak rally here in Sydney. I went out there. They 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.560 were charming to me, I can tell you and Moreo 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.320 Deeming went out there, she was physically assaulted by these 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.240 leftist protesters. No one said a word about that at 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.640 MP being physically assaulted, police told her and her daughters 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.200 to leave. They couldn't protect her, and instead she was 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:33.200 blamed for the actions of these dozen costplaying Nazi idiots 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.320 who had nothing to do with the let women's So 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.840 Pursuito knew all this, he was told over and over again, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.680 did not listen, and now he's in danger of not 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.480 just losing his career, losing his job. He may be 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.440 declared bankrupt if you can't raise this money, which means 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.640 there'll be a by election in his seat. I mean, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.600 it's hard to think of how you could go out 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:54.480 in worse terms. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.320 Yeah, Caroline, Well. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.240 The Liberal Party apparently has a problem with women, or 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.280 so we keep here. The problem is so many of 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.440 them don't be able to can't define what a woman 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.480 is exactly if they can't. If he couldn't see John 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.480 Pursuito that MOI Redeeming was standing up for women's rights 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.400 against a radical trans lobby and a group of neo 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.640 Nazis who were just great gay crashing the whole thing 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:27.600 out of opportunism, and he's ignorant, he's frankly, he's stupid. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.440 I mean, it was to me so offensive. It wasn't 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:37.159 just that he was so absolutely wrong and was obviously 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.120 defaming this woman and causing all sorts of issues. It 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.520 was the political stupidity of it, the fact that he 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.040 didn't recognize this was an opportunity to actually lay a 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.720 glove on Dead Andrews. Because Dead Andrews came out and 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.599 attacked Mora. When we saw the actions of those leftist 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.760 ferals who were causing all sorts of violence, police couldn't 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.320 hold them back. That's how these neo Nazis just managed 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.919 to march up and instead of saying I'm going to 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.000 stand with the majority of Victorians who do believe in 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.560 women's rights, who don't think men should be in women's 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.920 sports and in women's spaces, in women's shelters, change rooms, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:19.280 he would have actually elevated himself in his standing and Victoria. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.679 But no, he was going to be more radically left 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.080 than Dan Andrews, and let's see where he's ended up. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.880 But there's a few lessons out of this, as well, 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.680 I remember speaking at the time to an MP down 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.120 there in Victoria and a Liberal Member of Parliament there. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.159 Oh no, he was saying, Oh no, no, John Pursuito 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:37.560 has got. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:37.880 To fight this. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.280 More redeeming was completely out of line. You know, she's 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.960 brought the party into disrepute. Well, seriously, who's brought the 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.760 party into disrepute? I mean, let's be serious. To two 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.440 point three million dollars in the red bankrupt kick is 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.640 having to stand down seriously, And the stupidity of these people, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.559 and this goes to the heart of the problem. The woke, 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.800 the woke Liberal Party, the woke you know, so called moderates, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.040 I call them the bedwedders. But the woke members of 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.040 the Liberal Party and the coalition who did the same 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.000 thing to Catherine Deves. You remember, outstanding candidates who could 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.840 have topped, could have knocked off Zali Stegel, but Scott Morrison, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.279 you know, because she'd been criticizing the trans lobby. Scott 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.400 Morrison put her in the cupboard, locked the key and 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.159 wouldn't let anyone talk to her for the entire election campaign. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.560 And she did not win. Same thing with more redeeming. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.880 These women who were brave enough, the bravery it took, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.960 and we saw it at the time, the whole Western world, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.080 you were being canceled if you dared to criticize any 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.760 aspect of the transgender community. There are few, and there 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.240 are very very few brave women, Saldrov among them. We 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:53.000 had her hero on outside with panic. Yes, but you're 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.760 brave anyway. But these women were out there at the 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.760 marchers and they got demonized for simply standing up for women. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.159 It does my head in one woman who has risen 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.600 to the top. Maybe it's her numerology that helped her 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:09.600 get there. The top of the load party is Susan. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.640 Don't you fooled by the spelling Lee Susonly. I've got 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.160 to kind of remind myself of that. But anyway, because 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.320 I'm tempted to say something else, but she's there at 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.840 the top now, Rita. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:27.800 She's a very close thing. A couple of MPs changing 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.040 their mind and it would have been a tied vote. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:35.000 So and also that voting box is going to change 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.400 because there's going to be a few changes with the 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.480 election we've just had, so it'll be interesting to see. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.200 There's a lot of conjecture that she's a placeholder essentially. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.280 I think that's a very dangerous game to play to 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.280 particularly put a woman into that position in the Liberal Party, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.800 the first female leader, if they're not serious about her 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.440 taking them to an election, because you can see what 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.720 the reaction would be if she's challenged in six, twelve, 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.640 eighteen months and removed from that role. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.480 So she will challenges to eventually come from just another woman, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.640 another woman. She would have to. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.160 Get into the Lower House before that. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.520 There is precedent for that. It has happened once before. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.239 But yeah, she would have to have a very safe 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.520 seat that she will be contesting at the next election 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.720 to be doing anything like that. So I'm sure she'll 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:32.120 be given an opportunity to prove herself. The criticism, and 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.760 I think it's very well founded criticism, is that she's 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.200 a flip flopper, that her instincts aren't fantastic that she has. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.840 You know, it was pro Palestine, now she's pro Israel. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.880 She was anti live sheep trade, now she's for it. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.720 She was against the Stage three tax cuts, now she's 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.040 for them. Goes on and on. So her instincts. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.679 Shouldn't necessarily be held against a person. To open your 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.480 minds and be able to change your views. I take 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:57.280 what you think. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.800 At that age, you should know what you think. I'm 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.120 not suggesting she's changed her views because she's grown and 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.280 I think she's just political expediency has seen her doing it. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.640 I think in the issue, I mean she was like 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.720 the chair of the Friends of Palestine group in Parliament 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.360 and she went on a trip to Israel. Julian Lisa 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.120 took her the Federal Jewish MP. She met with lots 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.680 of people. In his view, and I've read a piece 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.080 that he wrote in the last few days. She genuinely 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.959 changed her views. Go she'd grown up in the Middle East, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.800 She'd was brought up to believe a certain thing, that 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.680 was exposed to certain beliefs which had formed her view 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:43.360 about the Palestinian people. But she she genuinely changed her views. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.400 Now it's difficult for us to test. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.840 That wasn't. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.160 I think Peter Dutton's greatest legacy and the one thing 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.000 he should be remembered for is his support for Israel 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.640 during from October seventh. The only a straight politician it's 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.480 really really stood up and thought. So Susan Lee is 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.880 competing with that, and I wish her well on that front, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.079 But I think to the bigger issue, which is going 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.120 to be net zero, and it is clear I would 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.120 say that Susan Lee is there because of the so 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:24.760 called moderates. Good luck being a moderate. Basically you stand 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.080 for nothing and you will fail in politics if you start. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.880 But she hasn't ruled it out, but she is clearly 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.040 the candidate of choice of those groups within the Liberal Party, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.199 and that there is a cancel within the Liberal Party 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.280 which has been there. Everybody knows it. Tony Abbott tried 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:46.400 to fight against it, which is this kind of awful 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:51.680 kind of connection between lobbying and politicians and the renewables industry, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.600 and it has led to candidates being preferred if they 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:01.079 are in favor of the renewables industry, which means supporting 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.400 net zero. Now, the reality is the Liberals, the Coalition 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.680 will never win government unless they abandon net zero and 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.080 pull out of Paris. I'm promising you that. And the 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.200 sooner Susan Lee wakes up to that fact, she's going 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.240 to have a fight on her hands because the people 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.880 who largely were pushing to get her into that position 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.439 are very very strongly in favor of renewables. We all 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.840 know who we all know invested in it. And the 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.040 battle will be whether the coalition can reconcile because clearly 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.880 the Nats one out of net zero they know it's 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:39.040 a disaster, Caroline. But if the Liberals stay with net 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.440 zero a they risk fracturing the Liberal the coalition permanently, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.600 even the Liberal Party fracturing Liberal Party. So it's serious stuff. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.000 It's net zero or not. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.679 Well, it's net zero or not. And since they've embraced 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.640 net zero, they've lost two elections directly and lost them badly. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.640 This is what's astonishing to me. And we talked about 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.880 this the Sunday after the election because you could see 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.040 it happening, and it happens every single time the Liberals 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.040 go labor light and get beaten. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:07.400 Ye. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.360 The analysis, the post mortem is well, no, you didn't 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.760 go left enough. We're listening to those sky and is 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.840 after dusk despite the fact that they listened to nothing 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.719 we said. In fact, we spent all this year criticizing 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.120 them for being weak and unprincipled and not actually giving 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:25.720 the Australian people a creature. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.320 Can I just interrupt you there, because we've got this hilarious. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.000 I thought it was comedy I thought it was a 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.120 stand up comedy. It was the two Barries Barry Cassidy 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.719 speaking copy of Insiders. It would taking the show that 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.640 tried to replicate Outside but never never quite got there Insiders. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.800 He's back again doing something or other and this character 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.400 Tony Barry from the libertol I have a listeners comedy, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:47.440 Gold have listened. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.160 One of the challenges for Little Party is because media 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.520 has become so tribal these days across the whole spectrum, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:13:00.000 and our branch members love Sky after Ducks there news 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.640 and they are incredibly influential over pre selections and over 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.680 our membership. And you know, I spoke to a fairly 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.040 senior Liberal MP. I was up in Canberra and he said, man, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.959 I've got to go. I've gotta watch I've gotta watch 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.040 the Skuy after Dark. And I was like, what are 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.160 you watching that for? And he was like, I've gotta 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.240 find out what my branch members are being told, he said. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.840 You know, he said, I get back to my electorate 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.720 and go to my branch meetings and I've discovered that, 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.480 you know, for the last two weeks they've been told 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.880 this particular issue, so they become highly influential, and that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.680 is driving a lot of our membership vote, and so 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.760 you know that that influences our pre selections and the 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:42.040 quality of people we can we can choose, we. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.320 Should be rolling around with us. I mean, seriously, that 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.240 guy they had the Guardian logo up the head drilling 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.600 into the side of his brain was the word Guardian 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.680 and everything that guy said was complete nonsense. Barry Cassidy 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.480 sat there like the words were coming down from from 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:58.520 the from the mountains. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.400 The biggest exposure he has had to someone who supposedly 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.400 on the other side, supposedly going. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.240 Some liberal MP somewhere. He told them, somebody watches Sky News. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:10.439 I mean, can you believe you have? 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.600 I mean, god forbid that you would have liberal MPs 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.079 who actually are in touch with there what their members 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.080 think about. I mean, maybe if they listen to those 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.160 those members and actually formulated policies that we talk about 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.320 here on Sky and is up, maybe they wouldn't be 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:32.360 absolutely trashed by running a labor light Week policy and 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.880 now veering further to the left and again completely destroying 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.560 any chance they have of being an alternative government. I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.560 don't understand how they can keep and we've seen it 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.920 in victorious. I can't understand how it happens. Every time 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.200 they listen to these bedwetters, the absolutely as a nine 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.920 commentary and they lose. There's no learnings from it. There's 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.520 no Well, maybe we should, you know, think of something 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.200 a bit more intelligence. Maybe maybe we should stop listening 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.920 to the people who keep having us life. They keep 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:06.640 going down that. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.520 They keep listening to people who would never vote Liberal 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.000 in the first place and don't really want other people 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.960 to vote Liberal because like Barry Cassidy, they are labor 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:24.560 supporters that he worked for a labor prime minister. You know, 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.440 these people need to start listening to people who would 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.200 actually vote for them and have voted for them and 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.320 want them to win, other than people who really don't 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:36.240 want the Liberals to. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.760 Be If you listen to those two, you would have 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.560 never opposed the voice. You would have at the very 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.640 least run dead on it. You would have had the 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.040 most sorry, you would have run dead and not taken 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.400 a position and said this is up to the Australian people, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.320 which is what so many of these bedweatherers were advising 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.760 Peter Dutton to do. And that's part of the reason 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.840 why I took him ten months to finally come out 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:01.920 and pose it, and we saw what happened when you 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.000 posed it, every state said no. More than sixty percent 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.400 of Australian's voted no. That's Australia. These people would have 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.520 you believe that Australia is inherently they call it progressive, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.800 they mean woken left wing. Exactly, it is not. But 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.760 you have to give that sixty percent an actual choice. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:21.920 You have to give them something. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.480 Now, sixty percent did not vote for Labor at the 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.320 last selection. In factor was high and that was sixty 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.920 five percent roughly who did not vote for labor. But 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:33.160 as Rita was saying, the reality is, had the coalition 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.200 listened to the many, many different commentators and voices on 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.000 Sky newsers, obviously if they'd listened to outsiders, they would 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.440 have won in the landslide, as I did say they 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.720 would over a year ago, had they purely gone down 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.840 the route of copying what they'd done on the voice. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.680 But anyway, they refused to listen to any advice from 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.400 virtually any of the commentators here on Sky many different 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.840 advice on all sorts of different topics. They're pretty much 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.440 ignored at all, That's why they lost because they weren't listening. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.640 They were listening to the ABC. They were listening to 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.639 the likes of Barry Cassidy or the insiders crowd. They 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:10.919 were not listening to actual people who want the coalition 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.359 to win. That's what the sky presented. They wanted the 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.600 Coalition to win. They were offering from the bottom of 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.080 their hearts advice on they could see. Can't you see. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.479 Where they going to be a reckoning? When is there 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.720 going to be a reckoning when they go down the 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.520 road they did where they embraced net zero, they embraced 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.520 big spending at a time where we can ill afford it, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.840 where they really just the one policy differentiation they had, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.520 which was nuclear, they barely talked about because they were 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.879 terrified of it and it didn't come into the twenty 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.879 thirties anyway, so it wasn't going to really have an 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.159 impact on people's energy prices in the next few years. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.399 So when is there going to be a reckoning for 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.280 the people who recommend these catastrophic but. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.320 Have listened to Tony Abbott? Carol just us to this 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.280 grab of Tony Abbott speaking about the election. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:03.440 Is there we go? 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.879 We let the country down. This election was so so winnable. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.080 People had concluded that the government didn't deserve to be 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:18.360 re elected. We failed to make a sustained case against 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.919 the government. There was that policy to get the public 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:25.840 service back into the office. The Labor Party successfully portrayed 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.679 that as an attack on everyone working from home, and 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.800 so we reversed it. We said we were going to 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.919 have a policy on revising the curriculum to make it 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.159 about education, not indocrination. In the end we didn't do it. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.399 We never had an immigration policy, even though we'd frequently 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.240 said that we thought immigration should be cut. In the 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.240 end we didn't even have a comprehensive energy policy. 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.720 I mean pretty cutting words there. Caroline from Tony Abberts. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:59.720 As someone who has won from opposition side it backing policy. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.320 This is that the very people we just heard from 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.080 the Barries would have told you do not embrace those 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.160 policies because the Australian people aren't interested in that. They're 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.840 not interested in the culture wars, they're not interested in 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:17.439 these conservative positions. And Tony Abbott proved that yes, you 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.600 can win in a landslide. Caroline backing that the. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.359 Liberal Party just became scared of their own shadow. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:24.840 They terrified. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:26.280 They just backed. 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:31.600 Away from all the policies and ideas that had popular support. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.800 You might not hear it if you listen to the 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:41.280 ABC or read nine Papers or the Guardian, but people 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:46.679 were asked sick of the race to renewaballs, they but 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.280 they weren't given an option between the two. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.760 I think rather than watching skyne Is, I think all 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.639 those Liberal MP's had the bird cage cover over the 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.320 television when Sky was on because they ignored everything that 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:02.280 was said. But what a beautiful segue. One liberal member 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.800 of the Liberal Party who I'm going to embarrass him 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.560 because that's what I enjoy doing. Is often compared to 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.399 Tony Abbott from people that I know, is of course, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:15.520 Liberal senator from South Australia Alex Antick, and he joins us. Now, Alex, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.439 great to have you on the show. Good to see you. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.920 We've just been dissecting the election campaign, so we won't 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.960 put you in the awkward position of saying what went 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.919 terribly wrong? But do you tell Alex what went terribly 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.600 wrong in any election campaign? 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:36.280 Well you've made me blush rowing My ties turned red 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.160 as a result of that, So thank you for that. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.439 Look, look, I think. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.119 I was listening to what you're saying and all of you, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.639 and I think each one of you had merit in 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.960 the points you're making. I mean, it really is about courage, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.640 but there is such a big backstory that we don't 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.160 have time for all of it today. 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.440 But I just make this observation. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:21:01.360 This country has stopped I guess dire Fi the lifters, 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.240 and now we are sort of almost putting the leaners 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.840 on a pedestal in this country. We've become a big 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.400 government country that's used to handouts, and I think there 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.480 was a view inside the Party that we need to 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.320 pander to that and to outspin the Labor Party, so 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.120 we lost the economic narrative, and also to run from 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.480 the so called culture wars and to run from I guess, 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:26.040 policies that really resonate with middle Australia, with ordinary Australians, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.480 and that comes from, I think, effectively just a lack 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.439 of positioning ourselves for those people. And this is not 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.040 really about left and right, although I would say I 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.040 think the party needs to shift pack to the right. 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.200 I've been quite open about that, but that's because I 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.560 think the vast majority of Australians are sent to right voters, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.880 as the voice showed, as you quite rightly pointed out. 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.720 So my view is as it's been for many, many 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.399 years here in South Australia. We have been restocking the 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.240 shelves at membership level with people that share our values, 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.080 true liberals. They've been pre selecting people who have been 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.479 making their way to Parliament to the extent that they can. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.680 I mean obvious, the elections like we saw don't allow 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.120 every candidate to get through, but we had many, many 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:05.840 of them. We had Leah Blithe, who I think you 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.960 had on your show last week, who is doing some 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.600 great work in the education space here pushing back on that. 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:15.600 We've had legilative counselors like Ben Hood. It's all about 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.800 making sure that the Liberal Party is pre selecting and 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.280 supporting people with courage, people with true liberal values, and 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.159 you do that by getting involved. You know the minor parties, 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.920 who many of whom and I don't wish to speak 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.800 ill of them, because I know many of the people 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.840 involved with the minor parties in this country. They mean well, 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.880 they speak the right language, but they're never ever, ever 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.400 going to be parties of government. This is The reality 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.040 of the minor party, minor conservative party movement in this 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.280