WEBVTT - Sharri | 28 April 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.159 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:09.440 This is Sharry Good Evening, Massive show. Tonight, Peter Dutton 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.440 joins me for a one on one interview where he. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.520 Hits out at the hostile press pack. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.520 Covering his campaign. He calls them biased activists, not journalists. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.200 He also gives insight into what his polls are telling 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.680 him about who will win the election. My interview with 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.880 Peter Dutton coming up in a moment. Also tonight, bombshell 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.159 revelations that the Albanezy government knew well before this campaign 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.960 started that Russia made military requests to Indonesia and Australia's 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.880 triple A credit rating under threat from Labour's big spending agenda. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.280 Shutter treasurer Angus Taylor will be on live pass the 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.280 debate over Welcome to Country ceremonies heats up four days 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.720 until the election. These are the big issues unfolding now. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.680 I told you this would be a big week on 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.480 the show, so right before the election and tonight alone, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.480 we've got Peter Dutton and Angus Taylor Duarton interview first 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.000 this half hour, but first tonight, the Prime Minister who 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.840 finds a television show terrifying yet refuses to confront the 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:20.440 real and growing threat of adversaries like China and Russia 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.960 on our doorstep. Today, these bombshell revelations that the Albanesi 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.320 government knew well before the campaign started about a Russian 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:35.120 request to use Indonesian airfields for long range military aircraft. Now, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.720 the Albanesi government was made aware of the request after 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:43.560 a February meeting between the Indonesian Defense Minister and senior 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:48.560 officials from Moscow. This is in Dennis Shanahan's exclusive front 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.760 page report today. Now, this was no rumor, no speculation, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:59.120 certainly not propaganda as Albanzi claimed it was. This was 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.800 hard in intelligence and it demanded a serious and thoughtful 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.280 response from the Prime Minister to the Australian public. But 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:14.240 instead Labour try to present this information as fake news 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.440 despite knowing about the official request. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.480 And the coalition will try to raise a range of 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.920 other issues. They raise issues about briefings on waiting for 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.600 them to ask for a briefing on who faked the 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.280 moon landing. The truth is that the Indonesian president made 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:39.560 no statement. The alternative Prime Minister of Australia verbaled the 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:40.680 Indonesian president. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.360 This is a complete smoke screen. To be frank, what 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.919 the opposition of trying to do with this whole issue 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.040 about whether or not there is a briefing is to 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.800 find some kind of excuse for what Peter Dutton did 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:53.480 last week. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.680 Wouldn't it be an act of good faith to just 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:57.800 give them a briefing on it? 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.200 Andrew, the opposition is asking for a briefing on something 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.880 that doesn't exist. I mean they might as well ask 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.840 for a briefing on the Lockness monster. This is something 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.520 that doesn't exist, that they fabricated. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.600 Fabricated propaganda Murray Watts, as you heard there comparing. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.680 It to the Lockness Monster. Well, while Labor was making jokes, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.120 Russia was making moves. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.200 Now, Peter Dutton is a former defense minister who understands 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.480 the reality of what it would mean if Russia had 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:37.280 long range missiles just one thousand, three hundred kilometers from 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.520 our mainland. Yet when he raised the alarm, the Prime 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.480 Minister mocked him, attacked him, and claimed his remarks made 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.920 him unfit to be prime minister. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.760 Well, no, Alban easy. What makes a leader unfit is 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.720 ignoring such threats. What makes a leader. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:02.360 Unfit is belittling national security to prot affect political skin. Now, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.760 the truth is clear for anyone to see a stronger 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:11.640 Russian military presence just north of Australia would pose a direct, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:17.400 immediate threat to our sovereignty, our security, and potentially to 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:22.640 the safety of every Australian family. But Albanezi chose to 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:28.080 trivialize it. He deflected, he chose weakness over vigilance. This 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.239 is a prime minister who is not across the detail. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.560 He's out of his depth on the international stage, and 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.600 at a time when the world is becoming more dangerous, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.760 he just doesn't take this issue seriously enough. And so 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:47.680 today while threats gather at our doorstep, Albanezi stood before 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:53.440 the media promoting a television series, a TV series called 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.720 Adolescence yep that he said, this was frightening. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.600 I encourage anyone to have a look at it. It's scary. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:11.200 It's scary that these parents depicted not knowing what their 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:18.120 young son, who they love, has engaged in. And there's 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:23.520 a scene towards the end there where the father, who's 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:30.120 brilliant helped write the show, says, we thought he was safe, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.240 he was in his bedroom, we thought he was safe. Well, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:41.640 it's had tragic impact for him, but a worse impact 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.600 for his victim, and so this is something we need 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.120 to have conversations about. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.600 He's talking about fiction there. Fiction. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.320 Now, I don't know how he had time to binge 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.320 watch a fictional TV series during an election campaign. I 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.160 certainly and he's the Prime Minister campaigning. But let's put 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.479 that to one side for the moment. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.880 Now. Compare his response when he was asked. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.800 About a fictional TV show to his response about the 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:17.200 revelations that his government knew about the request from Russia 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:22.039 to Indonesia back in February. In March, were you told 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.080 about the Russian request for air base success in Indonesia? O? 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.120 Look, I don't go through again. I refer to my 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:34.520 previous answer. What adults do on intelligence is receive them 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.680 and not do it conduct it through the media. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.960 What we know I spoke about the importance of transparencies. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.520 What we know is I'm sorry, but adults, adults when 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.880 it comes to intelligence, act like adults. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.760 So we can see clearly the Prime Minister appears more 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:57.880 concerned about a fictional TV series than actual national security. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.920 A scripted fictional. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:05.400 TV drama, not Russia, not China, a TV drama. And 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.839 then last night he couldn't even bring himself to say that, yes, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.000 China is the greatest threat to our national security. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.600 Should we be worried about China though it does China 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.240 pose the biggest risk to our national security? 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.520 Well, China seeks is the major power in the region 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.120 which is seeking to increase its influence. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:27.680 Dub name China. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:33.240 You didn't, no, no, I said, China is the biggest country. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.520 Is the country that that seeks influence in the region 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.920 to extend, and that is what we are doing. Well, 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.120 I'm the prime minister of a country and how you 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.440 deal as prime minister is diplomatically. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.080 And it reminds you of Sam Destillari, doesn't it. Yeah, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.480 that's his response. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.040 As a Chinese warship conducted live fire exercises off the 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.000 coast of the Tasman Sea for the first time since 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:05.480 the Second World War, and as a Chinese spyship circumnavigated 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.360 our southern coastline, yep Albin Easy speaks with emotion about 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:16.080 fictional tragedies while appearing alarmingly unconcerned about the real world 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.640 dangers unfolding right before our eyes. At a time when 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:26.400 Australia needs a leader with clarity, conviction and courage, we 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:32.480 have one obsessed with television programs and stage managed soundbites. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.640 It's not just embarrassing, it's dangerous. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.520 Our adversaries are watching what he says, and what they 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.520 see is weakness. They see a leader who won't even 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:48.520 acknowledge a threat or call it a threat, let alone 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.520 prepare for it by increasing defense spending. And history tells 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:57.040 us one thing, it's that weakness invites aggression. Well, God 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:04.680 help us all now. The Welcome to Country has become 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.360 a flash point in the election campaign, and Peter Duarton 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:13.040 is making the case that it's completely overdone, while Alban 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.240 Easy rejects this suggestion for the. 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.880 Start of every meeting at work or the start of 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.480 a football game. I think a lot of Austrains think 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.560 it's overdone and it cheapens the significance of what it 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.160 was meant to do. We want to make sure that 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:32.119 we can respect to strains, but not diminish the significance 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.880 of a welcome to country, which I think is taking place. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.679 It's up to people to determine whether they have a 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.240 welcome to country or not, but from my perspective, from 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.560 my perspective for major events, it is of course a 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.480 sign of respect. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.160 Now Dartin is suggesting that the welcome to country ceremony 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.880 still be conducted at important and significant events like the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:10:01.240 opening of Parliament, just not overdone into nambagin for Price 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.480 as back dutton In, along with Jane Hume and others. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.439 In fact, just Enterprice has been making this argument consistently 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.199 since the Voice referendum. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.200 We've got to do more in that space as opposed 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.880 to dividing our country and I want our kids to 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.400 be proud to call themselves Australian and not feel bad 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.880 in any way for feeling a sense of pride in 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:24.520 our country. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.280 I think the issue though, is when they're become performative, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.559 when they occur before every sporting. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:31.760 Event or. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.160 Every meeting and in an office, it does become a 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:37.400 little bit ridiculous. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.640 I think what Peter said last night in the in 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.400 the Leader's debate is right. It's been overdone and I 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.280 think it also can be very divisive at times as well, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.719 because ultimately we're all Australians. 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:55.240 So what started as a respectful acknowledgment to country and 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.479 to elders past has now been taken to absurd extremes. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.040 Many preschoolers parrot to welcome to country daily, yet they're 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.040 too young to have any understanding of what they're saying. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.360 And Australian officials at climate conferences in Europe have acknowledged 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.560 the owners of the land on which they stand when 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.640 they are literally thousands of kilometers away. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.720 My name is Claire Anderson. I'm the group director of 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:27.760 Sustainability Performance at Walley and I'm very delighted to be 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.439 here today and to start, I might whilst we're not 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.079 on Australian lands, I'd still like to start with acknowledging 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.000 the traditional owners of Australia and the Torrest Trade Islands 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:45.120 and pay my respects to their eldest past president and emerging. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.240 I mean, come on, that truly is absurd. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.640 It's insulting to our intelligence. There's a difference between honoring 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.200 and respecting the past and being made to feel like 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:01.000 you're a trespasser in your own country. Because that's precisely 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.520 the message the Greens and other radical activists are pushing 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:05.360 every day. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.079 They say they're living on. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:12.679 Stolen, unseated land. And one of the most dangerous consequences 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.080 of this message that really hasn't been discussed, and it's 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.800 reinforced by overdoing the welcome to countries is that it 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:25.840 erodes patriotism, that vital sense of loyalty to Australia and 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.200 if you don't feel like you belong on this land, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.520 that it's stolen, then you're not going to risk your 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.640 life to fight for the country. Now, on Thursday night, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.800 we discussed this new research that shows that only sixteen 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.679 percent of gen Z said they defend our nation that 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.839 they go to fight if there was a war. Now, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.720 this is a huge problem, as Liberal MP Keith Wallahan 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:50.640 spoke about on the. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.760 Show disturbs me. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.240 Is the trend When this survey was last done, the 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.360 numbers that were willing to serve were higher, So the 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.720 trend is down. At the heart of that is a confusion, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.280 a confusion and institutions about ugly nationalism which no one likes. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.719 Millions of people have died from that. But healthy patriotism 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.520 and we need to lean into healthy patriotism. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:13.800 And it makes sense. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.640 I mean, why would you risk your life for a 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.680 land that you are constantly told you don't belong to 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.440 and you're reminded of this every day. And this of 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.840 course is also impacted on the Australian flag. Once a 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.600 proud symbol of unity and freedom. The left has smeared 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.840 our flag as a shameful and racist symbol, and many 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.240 Australians are now too embarrassed to even. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.920 Fly the flag on Australia Day. Now. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.440 Friends of ours personally on the central coast of New 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.000 South Wales put up the flag at their home on 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.320 Australia Day. They do so every single year, and for 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:49.480 this they've become. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.640 A target of local youths who. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.559 Turn up at their house and harass them at night 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.480 on the Australia Day weekend. It's become so terrifying that 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.400 this year, after the first night of the Australia Day 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.240 long weekend, when they were again targeted by thugs, they 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.720 had to hire private security to stand outside for the 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.960 following nights or because they put up the Australian flag 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:19.760 with pride. This is the climate of fear for some normal, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:25.080 regular Australians that the radical left has created now. Of course, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.720 the white supremacists who rudely interrupted ANZAC Day ceremonies in 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:33.200 Melbourne are vile, disrespectful and have no place in our country. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.360 I wish they didn't live here. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.360 But overdoing the welcome to country is also creating its 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.320 own kind of division, bringing its own problems of making 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.840 Australians feel unwelcome in their home and therefore less willing 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.840 to stand up and fight for it in a time 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.280 of war, at a time, at an age when our 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.760 adversaries are on the rise, we need more patriotism and 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.800 not less. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:03.440 Now. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.280 I spoke about these issues and much more with Peter 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.840 Dutton a short time ago in Sydney. In our interview, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.240 he hit out it the hostile and aggressive journalists covering 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.440 the election campaign. He accused them of being biased activists 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.720 and not journalists. He also said the national polls, which 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.520 favor Albanezi, were being used as a tool of campaigning 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.360 by Labor and by the media. And he did say, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.160 in his words, there's a big disparity between the national 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.400 polls and his internal Liberal Party research. They're tracking in 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.080 key seats, and he says the millions of undecided voters 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.160 will determine the outcome of this election. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:49.360 Well, here's our interview from a little earlier. Peter Dutton, thank. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.120 You so much for your time, pleasure show. Thank you. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.160 The demonization campaign against you from Labor has been intense. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.120 From Mediscare, the cost of nuclear even claiming that you're 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.760 going to have overrituallyllion dollars in debt, which their own 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.480 forecasts show. Do you think in future campaigns there should 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.680 be some sort of election integrity Commissioner well Sarry. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.560 What it says to me is that if the government 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.200 was so proud and so pleased of their last three years, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.680 if people were better off and this government had delivered 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.520 for them, they'd be talking about that plan. But of 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.800 course they're not, and that's why they're throwing mard, It's 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:27.280 why they're running the scare campaigns, completely baseless, but people 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.400 will look at it and superficially accept some of the 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.160 claims being made. I just think we need to push 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.840 back and we need to talk about our positive plan. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.160 But there's such a dishonesty and I've frankly never seen 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.120 a Prime minister capable as Anthony Albenize is of staring 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.520 down the camera and just lying repeatedly without blinking. And 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.480 I think Australians though, sense that, and I do think 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.520 there is a turning of the mood and I've since 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.720 that over the last few days as well as we've 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.680 moved around. As we've moved around the. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:17:00.200 Country, what about some sort of monitor though integrity commissioner, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.400 or even a truth in advertising for future campaigns, because 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.240 some have argued that the scare campaigns against you are 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:08.840 even more egregious than they were. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.440 Against Scott Morrison. You know the number they've done on you. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.760 I think, look, there can be a time for that debate. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.199 I think the focus now is on how do we 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.320 win this election and how can we save our country 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.720 from three more years of absolutely terrible government. How can 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.560 we stop the Labor Green's government introducing the tax on 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.159 unrealized capital gains. I don't think people have heard the 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.480 message yet that if you've got shares, or if you've 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.800 got a house and you have an increase in the 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.280 value of those shares of that house, they're going to tax. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.639 You before you actually sell it. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.320 So you're going to be paying the tax before you 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.440 actually realize the game. When people realize that the Prime 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.040 Minister promise before the last election that he wouldn't change 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.399 tax arrangements in relation to superannuation, but now will and 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.800 how would you believe him in relation to the commitments 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.120 on negative gearing or taxes around the family home. It's 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.600 just I think is a real sharpening of the focus 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.680 over the next couple of days. And if people look 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.440 at what is on offer, they know that they can't 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.080 afford three more years of Anthony Albanzi, and they know 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.520 that we've got a positive plan to provide assistance now 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.720 to clean up Labour's economic mess. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.480 Why not go negative against them with your own negative 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.600 campaign on policies like you just mentioned on capital gains tax, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.080 but also even on medi scal I mean, we've seen 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.280 Labor use your own line against you in their advertising 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.480 that you'll need a credit card as well as the 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.320 Medicare card. That was your line at our Sky News debate. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.400 Labour's now running ouds on that saying that you'll need 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.080 your credit card under Peter Dutt. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.280 Well, again, I just hope people can see through the 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.280 dishonesty of it, and for us, we don't need to 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.040 resort to the lives and the trickery and the deceptiveness 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.919 that the Prime Minister's running. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.359 This campaign in. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.920 So we'll call out the lives and we'll highlight the 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.280 Labour's agenda in relation to tax. But I think this 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.360 election is about how do we manage the economy. Who 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.120 was best able to manage the economy, who was best 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.840 able to keep us safe and as Austrainds focus on that, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.760 I believe very strongly they'll decide that that's the coalition. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.880 You've also faced a very hostile media. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.960 It's extraordinary to watch the daily press conferences. Albanize has 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.560 often given what we all call Dorothy Dixon's whereas you 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.760 face hostile interrogations. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:25.920 From the press pack. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.439 You've described the Guardian and the ABC as the hate media. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.560 Do you think that sort of media and others like 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.600 them actually hate mainstream Australian values. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.400 I just think they're so biased and many of them 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:44.480 just activists not journalists, that their position becomes counterproductive and 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.320 they're playing to a particular audience to a Green voter. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.919 And frankly, as the Prime Minister's demonstrated, his whole government 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.280 has been about how do we please the inner city 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:57.919 Green voter in Sydney and Melbourne. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:58.760 That's why he's. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.800 Taken such a soft stance in relation to anti Semitism. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:09.240 It's why he's allowed the preferencing of Labor Green, of 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:14.720 Green voters, of Green members, rather knowing that they're anti 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.280 Semitic and knowing that they're Jew haters, that's the reality. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.960 And knowing that their economic policies are going to harm 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.520 people in the suburbs and in regional areas, but try 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.600 and confer some advantage on green voters in Graindler or 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:29.560 in Sydney. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.960 I think people see through that, and I think the. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.120 Left wing media, frankly by polling day I think will 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:40.560 be counterproductive of what they're doing. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.119 I mean, on the cost of living issue at the 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.960 debate last night that was overwhelmingly given to alban Easy. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.760 Do you really think those voters were undecided? 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:54.120 It didn't seem like it. 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.240 Well, I was a little emotional because there was one 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.760 journalist out of the Cidney Morning Herald that gave it 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.480 to me that said, I the election and it's about. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.119 The nicest thing election. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.359 Certainly not the election, but that was unusual. I was 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.280 the kindest thing they've said about me during this campaign. 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.960 So look, I felt good about the election. I think 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:19.320 sorry about the debate. I felt good about our policy 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.280 that we're putting forward. And yeah, look I think there's 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:23.880 a long way to go in this campaign. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:25.640 On national security. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.600 I mean, you said a moment ago that this is 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.920 about Australians feeling safe. We saw the revelations today that 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.600 Russia did put in a formal request to Indonesia back 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.520 in February and the Albanese government knew about this yet 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:43.080 publicly the Prime Minister has described this as a fabrication, 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.600 as Russian propaganda. Other labor ministers have even said that 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.159 if you believe it, it's like believing in the Lockness monster. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:52.480 Well, is this a. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:57.359 Prime minister who doesn't think the Australian public deserve to 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.240 know about our national security risks? 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:00.960 I think what a dem streitch is that this prime 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.880 Minister's prepared to lie about anything and those around him, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.800 Murray Watt and Katie Gallaher and others are prepared to 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.640 go along with this cover up. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:09.840 There's been a. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.200 Boat arrival on the evidence that we've seen. They don't 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.359 comment on it, they don't provide any information in relation 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.040 to it. Australians deserve to know this detail before they vote. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.760 And if the Prime Minister is being deceptive about our 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.280 national security, what else would you be deceptive about, well, 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:26.840 most other things, it would seem. 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.280 And again on China last night, he couldn't even say 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:35.199 that China was Australia's top national security threat. That's just 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.040 an obvious fact. Do you think he's trying to appease 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:45.600 China here? And this sort of submission towards a hostile dictatorship? 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.919 I mean, is that even an appropriate from a prime minister? 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:49.679 Sherry. 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.320 What I think it shows is people understand that this 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.600 prime minister is weak. As John Howard has rightly said 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.879 on a number of occasion, people leaves Anthony Elbanezi to 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.719 be out of his depth as Prime minister. And I 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:06.360 think the deception and the lies are now on full 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.560 display for people to see the character. I also think 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.720 people hark back now to the voice and they remember 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.840 the deception that took place there. The fact that people 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.800 will promise the detail from the voice. The Prime Minister 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:22.720 this day hasn't provided. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.639 All of that detail. So there's a lot that is 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:26.800 at stake at this election. 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.359 And I hope for the sake of our country that 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.480 we can change the government so we can restore integrity, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.639 that we can manage our economy so that we can 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:37.000 bring inflation down and deal with the cost of living crisis. 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.600